Chelsea Banter Archive May 15 2019

15 May 2019 16:05:22
Talk of Sarri being sacked and replaced by Lampard has to be bull, right?

15 May 2019 18:39:23
I'd like to think so but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sarri has been mistreated by a lot of our fan base all season long. The constant boo's at everything he does, the pathetic chants and even going at Jorginho because he came with Sarri despite him being one of our better players this season. You'd think we finished mid table with everything that's been talked about with him and Chelsea. He achieved what was asked of him and more so to sack him would be ridiculous, but if i was him personally i wouldn't want to manage at the club anymore and i don't think Chelsea would stand in his way. The idea of Lampard being our manager doesn't fill me with confidence at all, they'd be a better feel around the club especially with the fans but to hire such an inexperienced manager will only end badly for me.

15 May 2019 19:03:18
What a disaster. Lampard a club legend but hardly got the experience, got into play offs on final day and could be on way out playoffs tonight. It’s a heart of head rumour. Ridiculous,

15 May 2019 19:42:39
If the rumours to sack Sarri turn to fruition then it will go lengths into proving why we are a joke of a club for managers. It would be an embarrassment to sack somebody who finishes 3rd and ahead of prodigal son - Poch.

I don't buy into the stupid rumours. But it is clear that some of our fans have mistreated Sarri. Not sure what some of them want.

15 May 2019 20:32:20
Shak, I have defended Sarri throughout the season even though I didn’t want him as our manager.

I also think he has probably achieved what the club asked him to achieve.

BUT, he hasn’t helped himself with his stubbornness and rigid tactics. Some sections of fans at matches and online have made their anger very clear and in my view it’s been over the top but people are entitled to express there view, even though I find some of the comments disgusting.

I think the notion of Lamps as our manager is to soon and I would prefer Sarri to be given more time.

15 May 2019 21:31:01
I think the club would probably like to keep him, but the fans' consistent booing isn't helping I guess.

I hope the match going fans start supporting Sarri again. While I want Lampard tot eventually be our coach, it's too soon for him right now. Let him learn and grow at Derby.

15 May 2019 22:11:12
Hope one day it will be Mr nice and Mrs nasty in charge, lamps and JT.

15 May 2019 22:14:52
Your a well respected poster Tom, I respect your posts. Rightfully you always get behind the team regardless of the situation. Your right Sarri Sarri was stubborn and Rigid but I think near the end he was doing what we all wanted with his selections. He definitely deserves a 2nd season. He will turn the fans opinions around. no doubt.

15 May 2019 23:13:39
I hope so Shak.

16 May 2019 08:04:57
I'm sorry gents but I can't see him turning it around with the match going supporters. He has made no effort at all to build any sort of relationship with the supporters. Just as an example, we go up to Leicester on Sunday and he didn't even bother to come over to us, unlike the players.

It now looks as though he is too stubborn to try and build that relationship. If he tried it could help but he won't.

16 May 2019 09:59:55
and why do u want the manager to go up to the fans?

thats a load of BS . Sarri has got us playing some good football. He has helped develop the youth at Chelsea. SLowly but steadily we are, as a team improving.

Its the job of the fans to support their team . do that as fans, don't ask the mamager to come wave hands . honestly the atmosphere at the stadium has been poor. we should be the voice that shold drive our team up with confidence . Do the job of a Fan . a suppoter.

16 May 2019 10:20:24
Sorry dareyk but that's far too simplistic. As a manager you have to take the match going supporters with you. It's all well and good having internet fans who loved how his Napoli team played last season but this year the football has been absolutely turgid. He got found out early in the season and can't set the team up in an alternative way.

I'm not quite sure that he has developed the youth either but we can agree to disagree on that one. After all, Loftus-Cheek isn't 'youth' anymore and was playing in the World Cup last year. If you mean CHO, he had to be dragged kicking and screaming into giving him a chance.

The job of supporters at the match is to support the team. It's not their job to support a manager. It's also not 'waving hands' it's about a manager showing some appreciation to the supporters for the cost and effort of travelling up and down the country every other week to support his team. I've clocked up over a thousand games going to support Chelsea at home, away and abroad so with the greatest of respect I don't need you to tell me how to support the club.

16 May 2019 11:03:42
You are an ardent supporter of Chelsea . i haven't had the chance to visit SB but i support with all my heart.

I would not hold it against Sarri if he doesn't show any appreciation for the fans as long as he does good on the pitch with the team. I do agree that he has been rigid at times but that is cause of the players at his disposal . a longer time with the team training and the right players and we can see more to changes implemented when things don't go right . he has done well to show the team that we can win a football game with a more fluent style of play.

You could agree to disagree and that's fine. I am in support of Sarri and what he has done for the club and the players. RLC CHO RB even EH . i feel we have an identity now which we were missing at the time of Conte and the 2nd coming of Jose.

do u agree that the atmosphere at the game should be better and more supportive or the team, irrespective of the fact that the manager appreciates the supporters?

16 May 2019 11:19:09
Yes dareryk, I do agree with you that the atmosphere at Stamford Bridge should be better. This isn't just about Sarri though. We have had problems with the atmosphere for a few years now and it's down to a number of issues unfortunately. Part of it is the style of play and performance of the team. We have had this at times under all of Mourinho, Conte and now Sarri. It's a chicken and egg thing. The supporters have to get the team up and the team have to give the supporters something to cheer about. Both haven't been good enough at doing their job this season. I'm hoping that with a few months off everyone can re-charge their batteries as the atmosphere around the ground has not been at all healthy this season. Sarri hasn't helped that as he has come across as a very stubborn and grumpy figure.

15 May 2019 05:38:10
One thing I am so happy about is that next season we’re going to have three academy players in the starting lineup. Hudson-Odoi, Christensen and Ruben Loftus-Cheek. All three are good enough and I’m hoping Reece James can make the step up too and possibly Tammy Abraham.

Spurs have done incredibly well with promoting their youth and it’s about time we do the same. Good times ahead.

{Ed001's Note - James is the one I am excited to see.}

15 May 2019 07:30:37
I’ll be honest I haven’t seen one game from him. But he’s got rave reviews from Wigan and captained them last game? Pretty good for a loanee if you ask me .

I also don’t rate Azpilicueta or Alonso in Sarri’s system. I’ve always wanted fullbacks to be able to push the line quickly and overlap with a good cross. something city and Liverpool have done immensely. Takes a longggg time for Alonso and Azpilicueta to catch up and overlap our wingers. Our biggest weakness in my opinion.

15 May 2019 09:26:17
James has some of the best crossing I've seen. Also built like a bull.

So agreed, Ed, I'm also very excited to see him back at Chelsea (if it happens) . Maybe we get a glimpse tonight against New England.

{Ed001's Note - he looked good in the Championship but it can be a difficult step up for some. Hopefully he takes it in his stride.}

15 May 2019 10:38:12
That's true, there's a big difference in quality. However, that's why I think it's good that we still have Azpi to start. He can learn from Azpi and gradually get used to PL level.

What do you think of Derby's boys, Ed? Mount and Tomori. Heard any chatter regarding them and their chances for the first team?

{Ed001's Note - the chatter I heard was about giving them another loan. Not convinced by Tomori, he lacks positional sense but is quick and uses that to make up for it. It is always risky when a player makes last ditch tackles rather than just being positioned correctly. Mount I have not seen much of.}

15 May 2019 11:23:38
Standard, have Spurs done 'incredibly well promoting their youth'? Kane is a one-off, an exceptional player like Terry was for us. Apart from that, Rose / Winks / Kyle-Peters - none of whom are guaranteed a start? I think Christensen / RLC / CHO are a more impressive trio. Ps Spurs are yet to win a trophy under Poch.

15 May 2019 11:46:47
Hmm damn, was hoping Mount would get a chance. Ideally he'd rotate with Ruben for that LCM spot. That way Ruben doesn't get overworked either.

{Ed001's Note - he may well do with the ban hanging over Chelsea's head it could change a hell of a lot of things. It is a ridiculous situation, Chelsea are being treated extremely poorly.}

15 May 2019 11:54:33
Christensen isn’t mentally good enough has nobody not noticed. He’s a good player but better suited to the bundesliga or La Liga. I’d go for Romagnoli. A leader at the back and also left footed and good on the ball.

James definitely seems to have the right mentality. That kid is brilliant wherever he plays.

15 May 2019 12:43:49
What do you mean by "Chelsea are being treated extremely poorly?

You mean the fact the ban stood while the appeal was ongoing? Because I've assumed that when they appeal to CAS the ban will probably be upheld during the appeal. So I thought there's a good chance we'll be buying after all this summer.

You think the ban will stay in place?

{Ed001's Note - I mean the ban being put in place until the appeal has been heard, it is legally dubious at best. Precedent has been set that they lift the ban until after the appeals are finished.}

15 May 2019 13:30:56
Miss Darren wood I meant more so there youth as in their young players, don’t have to be from academy. Add dier and Alli to that list and you have Kane, Alli, Dier, rose and winks, all starting many games from them. Irrelevant they haven’t won a trophy as they have a net spend of $0. If they invested Half as much as we have over the last couple of years they would have won the title or at least a trophy ( fa cup or Carling)

15 May 2019 14:01:04
Ed001, Simon Johnson came out with a report an hour ago that the 3 loanees Sarri was talking about in his presser earlier were Aina, Zouma and Tammy.
Your thoughts on that?

{Ed001's Note - I don't watch press conferences, managers do not say what they mean, just what they think will best suit their needs. It is better to not waste thinking about what was said.}

15 May 2019 14:06:11
No, what I meant was, will those three players be good additions to our squad next season in your opinion?

{Ed001's Note - Aina can cover both flanks so should be useful, though I would have preferred to see James. Zouma is not the player he was before his injuries but he is getting better due to regular playing time, I worry that he will not get that at Chelsea, he is in a similar vein to Rudiger. Abrahams is a good shout for a chance for an option up front, if he can make the step up.}

15 May 2019 14:19:53
Thanks Ed001.

{Ed001's Note - welcome and it being Aina instead of James is consistent with what was said previously. Aina is very highly rated within the club.}

15 May 2019 14:20:02
Wouldn't surprise me, Roman. He did mention that we have to look at the level they've played at, which would suggest he was talking about the loanees in PL and Serie A.

Shame that it's not James and Mount. We're taking a big risk if we send them on another loan assignment. If they don't see a chance they might push to leave, and that'd be a big loss as they're 2 of the best talents we've produced.

And thanks for the opinion, Ed. As fans we always tend to think we're being unfairly treated, so for once it's good to hear someone else say the same lol :p.

{Ed001's Note - it is definitely unfair and extremely concerning. There is no need for them to act so high handed. Everyone deserves the right to justice.}

15 May 2019 14:44:23
Just wish it wasn't an either/ or situation with Aina and James. They should both be back and rotated with Alonso and Azpi ideally.

If James is loaned I think a club like West Ham or perhaps Palace (if Wan Bissaka is sold) could be good. Both are good team's, and would be in need of a right back (again, if AWB is sold) as Zabaleta just isn't good enough anymore.

15 May 2019 17:49:36
Agree with your dubious comments Ed001. FIFA couldn't wait to throw the book at an English team, especially with trumped-up charges available.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know about the trumped up bit, but they have certainly done themselves no favours by acting like 2-bit dictators rather than being fair.}

15 May 2019 23:06:18
Aina is going to Torino.

15 May 2019 23:25:52
Ed001 - Why the surprise at our treatment? FIFA and UEFA have always sucked up to 'old money' (Juve, Barca, Real etc) and done everything they can to help them (what else was FFP for? ) . 'New money' (e. g. Man City, Chelsea) can go whistle as for as the Powers-that-be are concerned.

{Ed001's Note - Man City and PSG don't get the same treatment, they have been very leniently dealt with. It is nothing to do with old or new money.}

16 May 2019 08:14:59
It's called corruption in any other form of business or government.

16 May 2019 08:06:37
In that case Ed001, do you think it's more to do with Roman?

{Ed001's Note - good question, one I honestly do not know the answer to, though I cannot think of one reason why it would be about him, in football terms. If you forget about his past and just think about what he has done for football and Chelsea, then he has been a very powerful force for good. We all know Chelsea have a historical problem with racist/bigoted elements (as do all of the earth to a small degree) being associated with (though nothing to do with the club itself) groups such as Combat 18 and the National Front. Or more correctly those groups have associated themselves with Chelsea. Roman has made the club take on these groups head on, and is still doing so. The club itself does far more for the community around it than it ever did before his arrival. If they really were going after Abramovich it would not be about football.}

16 May 2019 20:41:58
Thanks Ed001, really interesting reply. I have seen the change in the atmosphere at the club since Roman bought us and as you say there are a lot of positives regarding the community work and anti-discrimination initiatives that have been put in place. I think Roman deserves massive credit for making a very visible stand on the antisemitism issue.

I suppose it's not anything that any of us could know but we are living in interesting times with regards to Russian and the West and without wanting to be too conspiratorial I was wondering if that could be a part of the issue.