Chelsea Banter Archive April 14 2013

14 Apr 2013 22:03:52
Ed the question I must of herd 20 times today at wembley what happens with torres now he seems to be getting back his old form and is he just playing well because he knows he's on his way out of chelsea? {Ed002's Note - I have no idea - you would need to ask him.}

14 Apr 2013 21:12:05
This taken from Jason Burt's piece in the Sunday Telegraph, "Mourinho is expected to leave Real Madrid this summer and has lobbied hard for a return to Stamford Bridge, but it is understood that Abramovich has yet to be convinced he is worth re-employing. " and it gets better "The Russian billionaire would ideally prefer to retain Rafael Ben�tez and Chelsea have even gone so far as to discreetly sound out key players and their representatives to gauge how they would react should the interim manager remain next season. " and the most annoying regarding Roman on Mourinho "can he stomach the return of a manager who would want far more control than Abramovich wants to grant but who will probably bring success", what kind of question is that?Pellegrini will be in charge, sacked next February and we'll all be begging for Jose to come back then again and then Rafa will probably be asked back, anybody except Jose it seems, and granted papers are papers but Jason Burt has good access to the club although not as much as Ed. We can but hope and that's all it seems we can do because as this season has shown, the club could not care less what we the fans, who spend hard earned money going to games week in week out, think.

14 Apr 2013 20:30:18
Needed leadership today. Luiz should play where Mikel does, as Mikel has the touch of a donkey and can not pass at all. Torres though, he was the difference. We needed a goal, 2nd all time goal scorer on the bench. and he does not bring him on! Mata. don't even get me started on him. I know I am going to get some hate for this but he is so overated. He never goes into tackles! He looses the ball 97% of the time, makes one good pass and everyone raves about him. Barely uses that right foot of his. Anyway, Ba and Torres did well together. My man of the match was Bertrand, had a fantastic game. Just needs to be more technical.

14 Apr 2013 20:56:29
Mata, over rated. I'm not a Chelsea fan but geez that is so wide of the mark its unreal.

I'm guessing you think Susan Boyle is a good looking bird!

Gob smacked

People who slate Mata are obviously mad or opposition supporters. His passes in last 30 mins of second half generally brilliant, and almost brought us three goals. Would bet he covered more mileage than any other CFC player bar Ramires, a stand out being when he tracked back length of field to near own box. Sure after as many games as he's played he has quiter periods, but he's the best passer of ball in tight/nr oppn box we've got, by far. VBS

I think Mata has developed into one of the top 10 players in the world this season

United fan here in peace,

Mata is class, it's as simple as that. I thought he sprayed the ball around well in the 2nd half. Would love him at United ;)

HB

Mata overrated and Bertrand the top player, did you watch the game or just pick two random names to comment on?

He's got to do more for the team, he just let yaya toure go straight past him for the first goal.

Mata makes 87% of his passes. How does he lose it a lot? He makes 3 killer passes a game and this season has nearly made an assist or a goal everygame

Your the one that's over rated fella! Obviously not a chelsea supporter.

Yes he may make 87% of his passes, but they're all like 3 yards apart, and usually behind the player. Generallly the team as a whole need to learn how to pass in front on the player otherwise we will keep up that same old boring play

100 pet cent agree peds.
You know who another overrated player is? Messi
Yes he's broken record after record, but how he allowed fernando Torres to score last year show his horrible incapabilities.

14 Apr 2013 20:17:02
Unfortunate today, the difference was Yaya, we still require a big, physical player in the middle, perhaps Luiz? But its a shame we can't perform like 60 mins on for the whole game. Aguero should of been sent off, and that penalty, Foy, Again, had a shocker, but oscar had a great game (especially Cdm, tracked back well and created opportunities), needed more pressure when City attacked, at times today Mikel was non-existent with his pressure, City Had Luck with their first and the second was just sloppy defending, Ba's finish was Fantastic but most had great games, perform like that Wednesday and it should be a win. Futures Bright. COYB

JMJW

Agree totally. I love Luiz in midfield but recently we've needed him a lot for as CB. We need our own yaya toure. Who's out there as good as him. Big powerful defends attacks. And fellaini isn't answer in my opinion. ? Any ideas. Oh and Torres will be brilliant Wednesday mark my words
Matty

Yeah, Perhaps if were unable to sign a physical Cm (which are hard to find) put Luiz in there and sign defensive cover, my prefered targets would be Hummels or Subotic, because even with Luiz in Cb, were still short and could do with Cover anyway. KTBFFH

JMJW

The reason Luiz hasn't played in CM is due to Cahill's injury. A defensive pairing of Iva and Terry is wayyy to slow.

14 Apr 2013 19:18:11
Is anyone warming to rafa yet? How strong is the feeling against him continuing after this season? Steve

The waiter will never be welcome at the bridge.

Are you taking the pi**, we are more than 3 times further away from Man u than when he took over, we were eliminated from the champs leagueat the group stages, we are now out of the fa cup, top 4 is looking very difficult. Need I mention results against QPR, Southampton etc!

OK. Pretty strong then I'm sensing!

HB

14 Apr 2013 19:06:42
well played blues especially second haif what we need now is to carry on from that and beat Fulham and the scousers and get that champs league place secured also let's win Europa league lads as I said very unlucky today great finish to the season blues would be fantastic Chelsea forever. IANCFC.

Well played? we gave away 2 terrible goals, were over run in the midfield and only created a few chances. Well played? that just shows how far we have declined in recent seasons. It's like roy keane said a couple of months ago we are turning into a cup team.

14 Apr 2013 18:21:41
I think, because we are a growing team we are not as strong as city at the moment. But with an addition of two or three players we will be back to being a force and an exceptional team next year. Stan

We are not far away but need 2 or 3 more solid physical players who can do the basic work well. Otherwise it is pointless having such attacking talent.

14 Apr 2013 21:25:53
Agree.
I think Romeu could do well.
Romeu and Oscar maybe?
Hazard mata KDB/Moses
Falcao/lukaku

I agree with all of that but Moses pdoesnt float my boat. Scores a couple of good goals but the Orestes of his game is laughable and in intelligent.

14 Apr 2013 18:18:50
If only Ramires was toures size.
Played well, should have had a penalty but slow start cost us.
On a bright note Oscar was amazing when he switched to centre mid alongside rami!

Jordan

By the time Oscar moved deeper City were keeping 10 men behind the ball and defending and weren't pressing the ball high up like in the first half so he had more time on the ball.

U got to look at it like this though Oscar was still splitting them with fantastic passes. BLUEBOY1

If we went back to 4-3-3

Oscar mikel rami

this would work well in my opinion, as mikel could hold and the other two could get the ball moving foward fast. Maybe in the summer we could get a deverstating holding player and play our talented cm's off of him.

One can van dan

I'm sorry mikel needs to go. He can't get motivated for europa and plays terrible when ever he starts.

14 Apr 2013 18:14:02
Blame the decisions all we want, but for the team to sit back like we were Benitez needs shooting! And to all the mikel fan boys get a grip he is terrible simple as! BLUEBOY1

Could not agree more, Mikel is a waste of time, he has the ability but a really poor attitude and work rate.

He is terrible, was, is and will remain. The difference between him and Yaya is some lightyears away.

JG

Mikel isn't that bad. Better than Carrick of united. Fact of the matter is City played a blinder in the first half. Any team in the world would of struggled to keep up with that pace. Second half we was the better team, but by then it was too late. Hope Rafa starts 4-4-2 on Wednesday

No we wouldn't have if we shut down quick and played to our strenghs we would have Meade it closer.

14 Apr 2013 18:13:05
No problem guys, get over it and go for the 3rd place and the europa league. hopefully the higher ups will learn something out of this season after lossing soo many cups.
And too bad we have Mikel instead of Yaya
BLUEPRINT

I'm glad in a way that we didn't progress but the way the game was affected by the ref and the way we lost was irritating. Hopefully we can focus now on finishing as high as possible and winning the Europa league

14 Apr 2013 18:09:49
Continuing on from my previous post, City also got all the luck. Nine out of ten times a) the first goals deflection which went to Nasri bounces away or wide, b) Aguero's header towards the post bounces wide of the post or bounces back to Cech, c) that penalty would have been given for that challenge from Kompany and d) Aguero would have been sent off for that challenge on Luiz. Hopefully the FA won't bottle it and will give him a long retrospective ban, no attempt to play the ball and the only intent was to injure him.
Great comeback from us though, so very close. Great performance from Torres too.
COYB!
EH17

14 Apr 2013 18:00:57
Ridiculously poor refereeing. 2 clear penalties (Clichy in the first half, Kompany foul on Torres), a challenge from Aguero on Luiz which warrants a straight red card, numerous fouls from Clichy, Zabaleta and Y. Toure which resulted on one booking and the "pundits" still insist that the referee had a good game. Ridiculous. Great second half comeback though, Ba's goal was immense and we deserved more to be honest, had that penalty been given for the foul on Torres I think we would have won.
EH17

I thought the ref was lenient and let the game flow, which is good for the neutral and pundits, but not so good for the fans when the decisions affect the game.

14 Apr 2013 17:54:39
Yaya is the difference for me. Good game.

14 Apr 2013 17:01:37
Is it me or do these so called "professional pundits" know what their on about. Its been a very even game, some tough tackles (Zabaletta should be booked) and very entertaining. Yet no credit to Chelsea and City have been amazing, their goal was good build up play with a massive slice of luck. Fed up of this negative bias commentary and so called punditry we seem to receive.

14 Apr 2013 16:57:46
Same old problems over run and out powered in the midfield. Mikes and Ramirez just ain't up to it against opposition of this level. Man city have what we used to have physical players who could bully the opposition.

Ramires has been fantastic

All man city have is toure. I'd take rami and mikel over Barry. This game displays why we need a mauler in the middle next to rami.

Tk

Yaya toure is hardly a brauler.

14 Apr 2013 16:51:11
City are lucky to be ahead from that chance, couldn't even count every deflection which happened in that move but they slightly deserve the lead. Get Hazard, Mata, Oscar onto the ball more and running at the defence and keeper. Don't know who the ref is but he must hate us, should have booked Clichy earlier on and also keeps ignoring blatant fouls. All we need to do if stop Yaya Toure running (fouling, anything) because he has been City's attack.
COYB!
EH17

14 Apr 2013 16:50:23
I've been saying for ages that Mikel and Ramires ain't the answer in a midfield two.

14 Apr 2013 13:23:57
Do we still want josip illicic

14 Apr 2013 11:07:28
As much as I would like Jose to return I just don't think it will happen. I would also like Zola but don't think he's ready yet for a high profile job. Poyet might be a better bet but then who? Pellegrini seems to be flavour of the month but is he really the long term answer? Considering the way we go through managers maybe Rafa should get another year PROVIDING we make top 3 or 4 and win a Cup/s! The younger players appear to respond to him and he can deal with the big ego's and although not popular with a large section of the fans who cares if we are winning and building a bright future.

Why would poyet be ready but not Zola?
At least Zola has managed in the prem before.

Sorry mate but rafa is a no go, strange team selections and bizarre substitutions (is Beanayoun really the best option we have?) he will never have the fans backing and that is crucial. He has however done an ok job so far but the jury's out till the end of the season. Personally I want hidink or mourinho.

The waiter is not the man for the job!

If not Mourinho then Hiddink or Pelligrini. Even Ancelotti, although I doubt that will happen.