Chelsea Banter Archive August 13 2012

 

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13 Aug 2012 22:38:15
Well now most of us want Ramires to shift in pivot role rather than playing on right side wing position.
Yet RDM is playing ramires on right wing.
We all know ramires is most energetic player in our squad and will keep playing wherever coach asks him to play without any complaints.
But ramires can do better job at one of two deep lying midfielder role than on right wing.
AVB last year had some issues with lampard and even mikel whom he benched many times, and prefered playing meireles/ramires/romeu in those positions.
As lampard showed his unhappiness publically for being benched, this draged on and lots of players performance decreased. As a result we kept on loosing matches and it cost AVB his job.
As RDM became incharge , the first job he did was he trusted old guards. He gave chance to lampard, mikel, kalou all of whom were most of times on bench during AVB time at chelsea.
The old guards paid back RDM with FA and CL cup. And this brought RDM his two year deal job of Chelsea coach.
Now my point is RDM is still playing lampard and mikel in pivot role just to show he has trust in old guard.
If he moves ramires in pivot role its gonna mostly cost lampard as he will loose his place in starting XI.
And RDM is afraid to take such risk after seeing what happened last year.
But if we sign new strong right back someone as Hulk then surely ramires will fall back in deep midfield and then what RDM will do about lampard?

sam

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Its tough, its football legend or not lampard must realise what him and mikel are terrible partnership. rami & lamps is a much better partnership. mikel needs to be dropped he makes lamps look awful. to be honest the season after this one coming the only 2 CM i would keep would be ramires and mceachran. BLUEBOY1

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I don't think lanyard had a problem with being benched, it was just Avb's man management skills were awful and he didn't explain any of his decisions.

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13 Aug 2012 21:57:49
I honestly think that out of all our signings, the one best suited initially is Marin. Our team will evolve over the next couple of months and the new players can't be considered first choices until we see if they can cope physically and mentally with a far tougher league. So I think we start as follows:
Cech
Ivanovic Cahill Terry Cole
Ramires Lampard
Marin Mata Hazard
Torres

Our trouble is always going to be, can we cope when we don't have the ball. Last year we struggled when we had both Sturridge and Mata as neither offered anything when the opposition were in possession. I think both Marin & Hazard will do better at this. If Lamps wants to play then he has to accept a deeper lying more responsible role. I actually think RDM will play Mikel, push Ramires out right at the expense of either Marin or Hazard initially. The good thing is that there is plenty of choice...if we get Moses I think he will start early on as he is Premier ready. RDM's problem may be that at the end of last season it was easy to rotate as the players knew each other. Rotating players who don't really know each other yet could affect the rhythm of the team and the results. Fingers crossed we get off to a good start...up the Blues!!

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13 Aug 2012 21:56:49
4-1-4-1

Cech
Ivan Cahill terry cole
Essien
Ramires. Oscar
Mata. Hazard
Torres

BIFTW

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Kind of like a 4-3-3?

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13 Aug 2012 21:44:16
Team I'd like against Wigan

Cech

Ivan. Terry. Cahill. Cole

Luiz

Ramires

Marin. Mata Hazard

Torres

Marksnes

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13 Aug 2012 21:10:12
makalele was a one off phenomenan, is there anyone out there who is slightly like him?

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Tiote......from newcastle
he was too gud last season for newcastle....
but again it was his first gud season in epl......
also he seems little injury prone.......

samrat

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M'villa is pretty similar

trueblue012

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Tiote is brilliant untill he gets booked, which at most games played was the first half hour. BLUEBOY1

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Makelele is the best theres been an will have been for a long time as far as im concerned.

AK

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13 Aug 2012 20:52:38
***********Cech**********

Ivanovic*Cahill*Luiz*Cole****

Ramires*Essien*Oscar*Hazard

************Mata*********

***********Torres*********

This is my strongest Chelsea line-up for "now",any thoughts?

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Swap lampard and oscar, oscar will mostly just train with the team, making appearances from the bench until he learns the style of play.

trueblue012 {Ed018's Note - your more than likely right, it will take some time for Oscar to settle in, but i fully believe at some point this season he will become a regular starter}

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13 Aug 2012 19:46:39
I am greatly hoping that when/if we sign one of cavani/hulk that they will play rw and push rami back into the midfield where he belongs. When he does Romeu will be a fantastic partner. Rami is high energy and makes runs from deep. While Romeu is very good at sitting back and breaking up opposition play and distributing the ball. Just my thoughts.

Tk

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I disagree about Romeu, he regularly gives the ball away and for me should go out on loan

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Yer rami central all the way.

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Romeu gives the ball away, but when he does, it's not from short passes or hanging on to the ball too long.

trueblue012

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Ther was some intresting ratio stats of romeu v the whole chelsea team. he made way way more tackles and completed passes then anyonelse

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Rom and Ram - I see marketing potential!

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13 Aug 2012 19:43:36
I find it funny people are asking about getting sahin and m'vila in the same breath. Couldn't get two more different midfielders. Ones a destroyer and the other is a distributor. That being said theyre both better than mikel....

Tk

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I thought that as well it's like comparing Makelele and Lampard.

Rowan

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Like comparing frank and claud?
Theyve both stamped there names on football at top level and compared with best midfielders in the world! They arent on that par so no its not like comparing them

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M'villa all the way! Need someone to strengthen the midfield.

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Maybe they want them two to take the 2 spots instead of lampard & mikel. its definatley an upgrade.

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Im not comparing them, I'm just saying that Sahin and M'vila styles are so different that it is like comparing the styles of Makelele and Lampard. People seem to think that Sahin is a defensive mid but he is more like modric in his play.

Rowan

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That's the same thing I was getting at Rowan.

Tk

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I know i was agreeing with you mate. I was saying they are just as different as Makelele and Lampard to try and help people understand their different styles

Rowan

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13 Aug 2012 19:36:14
ED002: I know he hasn't been linked with Chelsea, but have you got any idea where Nuri Sahin could end up come September?
Thanks
Bennig {Ed002's Note - Sahin has been angling for a move to AC Milan who are being cautious in the market or a return to Germany with Bayern Munich but there is no interest from them. A move to Besiktas has been rejected although Galatasaray would like to take him to Turkey. There is confirmed interest from Spurs, Inter, Liverpool, MIlan and Arsenal although it looks like Manchester United has dropped the interest they had. I understand that Miguel Pardeza would prefer to see a sale at an unrealistic price (As quoted to AC Milan) rather than a loan which others at Real Madrid would prefer. As Spurs still have Modric, AC Milan, Arsenal and Liverpool seem to be the three viable options but with Modric moving perhaps Spurs will become an option.}

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13 Aug 2012 19:22:19
hi ed...
is nigel de jong available?
if yes what clubs have interest in him?
i think he suit for us..
thanks.. {Ed002's Note - Yes. Inter are interested.}

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13 Aug 2012 19:17:13
Heya Ed, Someone posted last week that you'd said you had a funny story to tell us, but you were on the road so didn't have the time to say it.. Any chance you have the time now?

Cheers

Ash {Ed002's Note - Remind me next week Ash.}

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This story is under a lot of pressure to be funny .

But knowing ed he won't disappoint

BIFTW

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Will do Ed.

Cheers

Ash

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13 Aug 2012 17:37:39
We got hazard we need hulk aswel, why arent we moving for him he's perfect for the premiership and he's a match winner something Chelsea need!

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The guys price is stupidly high

trueblue012

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Would, i am sure, be a good player in the BPL but his price tag is huge.

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Sometimes u gotta pay big to win big tho an I think we should be going a'll out to get the best players available

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Like cavani, maybe.

trueblue012

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13 Aug 2012 17:35:26
Ed, what the feck are Chelsea doin not moving for hulk?

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Well for the 72mil that's been reported that Porto want for him there's no chance. If ronaldo is worth 80 mil then hulk isn't even worth half of that.

Blue con

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Have you not read the posts? Chelsea have actively pursued Hulk for a long time. It's not as simple as 'let's just get him.'

LJ

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Chelsea aren't stupid enough to pay the money they are asking for him.

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13 Aug 2012 17:19:04
You have to say, "Time Share" (shared ownership) players are cropping up more and more often these days. I can see the advantages for less wealthy clubs, but surely FIFA should be looking at a world wide policy on this. Seems a bit unfair that English clubs are prohibited from buying players, available to our European rivals.....But if they don't, perhaps Roman could buy, say 2% each of the top 50 South Americans. That should at least make sure no other (English) bugger gets 'em! Yours sportingly {Ed002's Note - This is not a new thing and certainly not anything where you would be able to get all countries to agree to a fixed policy.}

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13 Aug 2012 16:20:23
so what does everyone think for this season prem table and cups??

curt

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Prem: Top 10
Man United
Man City
Chelsea
Arsenal
Tottenham
Liverpool
Everton
Newcastle
Swansea
Southampton

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Are you Howard Webb?

roan

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In case you are not Howard Webb,then you must be a "MIKEL".
roan

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League:
City
United
Us
Arsenal
Spurs
Pool

COC:semis or quarters (playing kids) (united win)

Fa:prolly us winning

Cl:semis or quarters depending on draw

Supercup:us

CWC:us

Lot of games this year. Just depends on priorities.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 15:13:36
New word in the english dictionary.

MIKEL: to be ridiculosly slow and careless and have a habit of looking backwards. Example:
He is such a MIKEL that's why he will never score a goal Or Usain Bolt is no MIKEL on the tracks.

ELI

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Dats 2 gud..... ELI

samrat

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13 Aug 2012 14:55:54
I'd like to see us TRY this and see what it's like wen azpilcueta signs
Cech
Azpilcueta ivanovic Cahill cole
Luiz Ramires
Mata. Oscar. Hazard
Torres
Cahill and ivanovic both got bit of pace and we have natural right back and luiz can in my opinion make that position his own, just a thought, mattyM

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I posted this earlier......

I guess most of us want mikel out of starting XI, and put ramires in Mikels place as ramires is wasted on right wing and will do better as one of two holding midfielder. However when ramires will play with lampard it will make difficult for chelsea defence. As both are attack minded and will move forward and hence causing problem for our defence during counter attack by opposition.
I would like ramires to play alongside essein,romeu or even luiz rather than mikel in those two holding midfielder role. And lampard to come off bench and have impact as substitue.
If essein is fit and near to his best he will sure be in for those CM role. However it seems unlikely and hence we need to find solution for it.

How about starting with..........
its gonna be 4-2-3-1 .......
but actual playing position on field will be like .......

---------------------cech--------------------

ivanovic-----cahill---------terry-------cole


---------ramires-------------luiz-----------

--------------------Oscar--------------------

--mata-----------------------------hazard--

--------------------torres--------------------

Subs:
Turnbull, bertnand,lampard,romeu/essein(if fit always ahead of romeu), marin, Moses/Schurle(new right winger), sturridge.
No place on bench for: Mikel, meireles,malouda,benayun

David luiz is very good player with some good skills on ball and nice passing range. I guess RDM should try luiz in pivot role, after all the boy started playing football as defnsive midfielder only n later on shifted as central defender.
Some of you might say mata or hazard should play in no 10 role instead of oscar. But i guess oscar will suit more there as he will fall back in midfield , collect ball from deep midfield and develop attack from there.
Oscar, ramires, luiz playing in midfield area will complement them well so as team as all are brazilians and will have much better communication during match.
This will also benefit us as we can afford to keep just one defender on bench and add more attacking option on bench as luiz if required can fall back in defence.
Thats my thinking........
guys urs will be different.......
but its not gonna matter bcaz d man whose thinkin matters is RDM......
hope he will have better solution than this.

up blues.......

samrat

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13 Aug 2012 14:49:07
Once Oscar and Marin gets back into team then Ramires will move into deep midfield role thats what we all guess.........
n may be RDM also knows that Ramires can play as one of two Pivot role.
As it stands right now and no transfer takes place......
we will have Lampard, Mikel, Ramires, Essein, Romeu, Meireles,(maccharan i am not considering him as it looks more likely he will go out on loan).
So we still having 6 players to fill 2 places, and that's where Chelsea fc thinks we having enough options and do not require to strenthen anymore.
Lets talk one by one.....

Ramires: Would love to see him in one of two deep lying midfielder role. He requires space to run and there he will have plenty.

Lampard: Well the club legend, this may be his last year for us though not sure. But the fact is it will be difficult to play ramires and lampard together in pivot role as both are offensive and so will move forward and hence we will have problem during counter attack by opponents.

Mikel: He is the same player we brought when he was 19yrs old and does not seem to be developed. The only advantage of mikel in team is more physical presence which was required for our earlier squads. But now we are changing, we are rebuilding our squad. We will be playing more attacking style and hence slow, average mikel will not fit into our new system.

Essein: Once i remember in 2007 he was voted the best box-box deep lying midfielder ahead of Alonso, Gatuso, scholes etc. But after his crucial injury he has never came back to his best. RDM-Chelsea FC will take a chance of keeping essein in team till january/end of season, and will see if can get back to his best as now during pre-season he looked fit. Yet we can not rely on alone essein.

Meireles: He is good addition to squad. Never complains when on bench. He was most unhappy player when AVB was sacked. His future is still uncertain in chelsea. He is one of the few inconsistent player. Sometimes his passing is horrible, oftenly giving straight ball to opponents. Can how some nice cameo once in ten matches, but thats not we will expect from our player.

Romeu: Under AVB looked good in first few matches. Then suffered a minor injury, and did not look sharp enough afterwards. Under RDM had very-very limited opportunities. But again looking at his age, he can still develope further. He is faster than likes of essein/mikel, has nice short passing skills - as i guess every barca academy player is tought well about short acurate passing. He may be one in coming future, but might not be the solution for present.

Realistically do not expect from RDM to sign any deep lying midfielder as we are having more than enough options there.
Most of us now believe that we are not good enough in that area and want RDM to sign new deep lying midfielder.
But still i guess we have " 4 " decent options.
Ramires/Lampard, Essein/Romeu
and RDM might take his chance on these five ( as he considers mikel one of good player which i do not consider), if it works, well and good or else he will look for new deeplying midfielder in january transfer market.

samrat

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And only 1 world class. which isnt enough for the champions of europe

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I think the bigger issue is the top midfielder in the bunch isn't used in this role so we really have lamps Romeu bison mikel and Miereles. However I hope that with the addition of cavani/hulk and the departure of Miereles that rami can be pushed back into his more natural position.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 12:13:56
Ivan not banned for his red card in the community shield as the FA see it as being "not a first team game" therefore the same logic applies as if it were a friendly. Good News :)

BlueLou

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13 Aug 2012 12:10:08
Last year AVB used romeu ahead of mikel.....and mikel was most of times benched during AVB time.
However mikel got gud chance during RDM time...... he did not have great season but some of u will say he had last 3-4 champions league gud games...
because.......
1) RDM changed playing style, it was just all about defence.
2) Required more physical presence rather than passing fluidity, and mikel is good in it.
3) RDM did not care about keeping ball position against barca n byren .....and was only concerned about not conceding goal.
4) there were other players such as lampard, meireles, ramires all helping mikel in his defence duty.

But as now we have brought new attacking minded players .....
mikel does not fit into the system.......
If RDM keep givin mikel chance after chance its gonna cost him job one day.....
hate to say but its true.....

samrat

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Absolutely brilliant post every point is correct, those tactics fit Mikel and in a normal playing style Mikel gets found as an average player.....people stop saying he is world class, he joined us at 18 and played regularly and still hasn't made it. Josh and Romeu are older than 18 but can't buy a game. Mikel has had his chance, end of the road stop offering him new contracts.

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We have strong defenders and a much better looking attack this season, but I still feel that in comparison to other top teams we struggle in midfield, not enough protection for the defence and not getting the ball forward quickly enough and ultimately this is where games are controlled from.
we have never adequately replaced Makelele or Ballack, would love to see Romeou get more games this season, still feel lampard has a lot to offer but one more dynamic midfielder is needed. Someone like essien when he first arrived. Just my opinion

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I've said this a few times and I couldn't agree more. Look at the game yesterday, Mikel or Yaya Toure ...... nuff said!

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I thought toure wanted to leave city come to think of it

he would be the final piece to the chelsea puzzle cant win them all though

curt

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Mikel is not even physically that good .He wins most of the one on ones when the player is coming straight at him .He rarely wins balls otherwise.He also lacks defensive awareness that is so crucial to a defensive midfielders success.
roan

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13 Aug 2012 12:02:53
hai ed..
are there any dressing room probs in chelsea..
dont see any team spirit in the team?
sturridge and torres doesnt seem to be good with each other...
sturrdge always wanted to steal the show..
y dont we sell him..
he is very selfish........ {Ed002's Note - There was a slight leak from one of the sinks, but that has been fixed now. After a lot of discussion about it being a worn washer, it turned out to be no mow than a lose connecting fixed with a little bit of Plumbers Mait.}

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Genius once again Ed

Sev

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13 Aug 2012 11:18:18
I really hope we can show some interest in Yann M'Villa, a midfield general with short, crisp, slick passing. He is built for the prem and is available at a reasonable price. I no he has had some attitude problems but he would make a big difference in midfield.

Ramires and M'Villa in the center of the park brings energy, defense and some grit, everything i think were lacking atm.

PB

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Bad attitude but a good player

question is what is more important how he plays or how often he will have tantrums

would be a good signing but i doubt it would happen

curt

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Would you guys stop with the M'vila crap ?! We have Romeu who if I do say so myself, Would suit the kind of players we now have at the attacking midfiels roles as well as the style we are looking to play.

Look Mikel is whack no denying that and as much as I would want Sahin or the likes of schweinsteiger its not gonna happen, as ED said there are other positions that are more important ATM. Romeu is certainly good enough for me and if we can get the Bison playing with say Rami at the middle or even Josh we would be great.

As for the game, we were ten men for more than half of the game and I have to say the fighting spirit of the lads was great ( except Mikel ). We could have beaten hitty if it weren't for that red, at the final third we look more dangerous as compared to the last two seasons note without Oscar and Marko. I like the looks of Hazard he seems really good on and off the ball and he and Juan worked well together and of course El Nino was as sharp as ever which only means his confidence is back.

Good to see us play so offensively even when we were a man down and I can safely say we are going in the right direction, no need to panic I say in a month time we would be a whole lot better.

ELI

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He would start every week, he and Ramires fix our problems instantly i believe.

PB

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Brilliant Eli!

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13 Aug 2012 11:03:58
i dont understand di matteos logic on mikel

if he was playing with mikel he would absolutely hate it

as for lampard i dont think hes a problem and we can still go forward this season with him starting just my opinion i know alot of you would disagree

my main lineup this year would be as follows

cech

azpil/ivan terry cahill cole/bertrand

rami lamps/essien(if he finds form)

mata oscar hazard

torres/cavani(if he is signed)

interested to see what you lot think

curt

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Hi curt nice line up but will prefer ramires playing alongside essein/romeu ,rather than lampard as both r very offensive and hence wont have cover for defence during counter attack by opponents.

---------------------cech--------------------


ivanovic----cahill---------terry-------cole


---------ramires-----------essein-----------


--------------------oscar--------------------

--mata-----------------------------hazard--


-------------------f. torres------------------

when essein is fit and somewhere back then surely he should start along side ramires, or else it has to be romeu but not mikel at all!!

samrat

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I think marin will have a big role to play this season, however i would play him on the right hand side, as on the left he nearly always cuts in onto his stronger foot rather than being an out and out winger and hugging the touchline, therefore having him on the right might encourage him to go past defenders and deliver the ball in to torres and other players in the box.. just an idea really..

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Nice ideas there i dont like leaving marin out but i think the other 3 are better

can see him being an impact sub and maybe starting a few games this year

curt

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With d likes of mata, hazard,oscar.........
marin wont find chance in starting XI.....
however he will have big impact coming as substitute.......
one thing we have observed hazard, marin both wing player are having tendency to cut inside and then having shot for goal.......this is not gonna help f. torres........better will be them stay little more wider, try to cut a defender and make space for torres and pass ball to him.......
believe me its gonna b oscar who will be most handy to torres ahead of mata, hazard this season.......
so thats why d brazilian boy deserve to play in no 10 position who is unselfish among all, got good vision out of all!!

samrat

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See i think mata will link with torres the most


there good friends and both spanish

curt

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Curt......

i know mata n f. torres r gud frendz....
but for us no 10 posn player will b playing deeper than wing players .......and as i have seen oscar for all brazilian games he fits more than anyone right now in team.....
though might take time for it.....
and hence for some early games it will be mata in that position.......
but once oscar will find his feet in epl......
he will surely replace mata in no 10 posn.....n den mata will play on one of wing side ......same place where he plays for spain!!

samrat

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That is a very good point samrat

both of us have plausible opinions maybe there will be some rotation between the two players

curt

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This is my team all day one. But lampard and ess rotate cuz I swear Mikel makes him look worse than we all know he is! BLUEBOY1

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Yes very true if lampard will play alongside essein (again when fully fit and near to his best) he will much-much better. Lampard playing alongside mikel is gonna make him look average only.

samrat

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Yer lamps is too slow to do mikel's work for him too

curt

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13 Aug 2012 10:43:55
Hey, lots of websites including talksport, and espn are claiming that branny ivanny will not be suspended as there was a change in the rules a while back, making the community shield a friendly, so league matches wont be effected, can anyone shed light on these stories? are they true?

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Chelsea web site also reporting this.

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13 Aug 2012 10:42:01
A change in FA ruling in August 2009 means that red cards in pre-season fixtures do not result in suspensions from competitive games.

As the rule change covered all non-competitive pre-season fixtures, including the Community Shield, it means Ivanovic will be free to play Wigan.

Surewould

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13 Aug 2012 10:39:38
Ivan will not face a ban for his red card yesterday
Carefree

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13 Aug 2012 10:36:12
Ivanovic has not been suspended for any premier league games as the rule was changed and this counted as a pre season friendly so he can play against wigan

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13 Aug 2012 10:29:53
Unless Essien finds the form he had prior to his injuries i really think we may be struggling in the defensive midfield position. Mikel has just not performed consistently enough at the premier league level to be trusted in that position week in week out. Yesterday he gave the ball away time after time and Chelsea can simply not afford this to happen and let teams run at our back four game after game and expect not to get punished. I have no idea what is going on with Romeu but i was not overly impressed with him when he played last season. He seemed to lack pace and could never recover possession when he lost the ball or teams were breaking at us. Not too sure what other peoples opinions is on this but i think a defensive midfielder is needed.

Woody

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13 Aug 2012 10:27:36
guys, one game and you are getting on Mikel's back. Yes he was terrible last night. But Essien has been terrible all the time since he got back from injury. He's not an upgrade. Romeu? He started brightly, but since the injuries he couldn't get back in.

Expecting it to be Lampards last season, considering it may have been Meireiles last one in Chelsea shirt, knowing that Essien is not up to task, this area is worrying.

Man City held the middle admirably. We are a match for them when it comes to attack. But just as it was all these years now - we just don't link up.

We need a Pirlo type of player. We just do not link the back with the front. It's obvious.

JG

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Not just one game mate all pre season and last season and the season before that and well ever since hes been at chelsea

3 good games hes had thats against bayern and barca and thats only because he had the WHOLE team helping him defend

curt

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Right now as it stands i will prefer....
Essein(if fully fit)
romeu
david luiz(try him as def midfielder n he will do better than mikel)
.........
ohhhh wats this.......
RDM ur lovely darling Mikel not in starting XI.......not on bench.........and if possible out of squad!!

samrat

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So you really think you know better than Robbie? Trust me, if he had a say he might be willing to upgrade everything he has in his team. Just as any other manager would.

I'm afraid we are focused on getting a striker and a right back. Midfield seems not a priority to the club.

I'm raising this question for more than two seasons now. But what do i know?

JG

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Did the words i know better than robbie come out of my mouth ..... no

fact is mikel is the best of a bad situation but a blind giraffe with a limp could see that mikel is rubbish

in the case of mikel i think all of us know better than di matteo

curt

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Last year AVB used romeu ahead of mikel.....and mikel was most of times benched during AVB time.
However mikel got gud chance during RDM time...... he did not have great season but some of u will say he had last 3-4 champions league gud games...
because.......
1) RDM changed playing style, it was just all about defence.
2) Required more physical presence rather than passing fluidity, and mikel is good in it.
3) RDM did not care about keeping ball position against barca n byren .....and was only concerned about not conceding goal.
4) there were other players such as lampard, meireles, ramires all helping mikel in his defence duty.

But as now we have brought new attacking minded players .....
mikel does not fit into the system.......
If RDM keep givin mikel chance after chance its gonna cost him job one day.....
hate to say but its true.....

samrat

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In terms of priorities jg I think by Getting a cavani of hulk will allow rami to move back into the middle which will strengthen it.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 10:27:02
Team for next season

Cech
Ivanovic luiz Terry cole
Mikel Lampard
Mata Oscar/Ramires Hazard
Torres

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Why mikel?!?!

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13 Aug 2012 10:02:49
oh and mikel is an absolute joke

curt

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13 Aug 2012 10:02:07
morning all the curt last night was a fake

none of it was me

i know ed002 replied thinking it was me but the eds can now tell who the fake curt's are

puzzled very kind of you to be so concerned about me lol

now down to the game yesterday i do agree with the fake curt that if ivanovic stayed on we would have won but the rest hes just a tool

cech could of done better torres looked very good

hazard wasnt amazing but lets face it he was playing one of the best teams in england

hes still one of the best hes got pace, skill, good shot, passing, dribbling, ball control and hes so good that he can add comedy value to the game (failed back heel) what a player :D

curt

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Curt....me old mucker !! Now remember
opinionated = bad. Behave yourself

Puzzled

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Opinionated doesnt mean bad :D

curt

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It does when YOU demonstrate it


Puzzled

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Bla bla bla

curt

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13 Aug 2012 09:44:38
Is there any interest in M'villa from france if RM goes to Napoli?

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13 Aug 2012 09:19:37
Mikel is back to being Mikel. Sadly for us. There's no depth at the position. It's still preseason, of course. But M'Villa would be an upgrade over anyone we have there right now.

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13 Aug 2012 09:16:40
Will oscar be joining up with chelsea dis week

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I believe Chelsea tv mentioned Tuesday. Not 100% sure though.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 09:06:29
Ed I'm not complaining but it's annoying u saying your " busy " all the time. Editors 002 do ur job mate. Reliable source pato and neymar to sign In 2014. Bluesmell07 {Ed002's Note - What do you think my job is? Certainly not to sit here answering repeated dumb questions.}

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Not being rude but if u dont like how the eds run the show get off the site, they give us excellent transfer knowledge stop being a snotty kid JJ

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Someone woke up the wrong side of the bed this morning

you do realise the eds give up there free time they have to do this website they dont get paid for it

they have day jobs like most of us and the fact that ed002 travels alot means he/she is busy alot of the time

as for your reliable source i suggest you question the reliability of it

by the way saying your not complaining then saying its annoying that your always "busy" do your job in the same sentence means your complaining and being quite rude

i will say though ed im interested to hear this funny story you have when your not too busy :D

curt

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'do your job mate'??? Some posts are unbelievable

Puzzled

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Ed002 looking at curt's post above (he/she) have you still not told them on this site about the operation?

Puzzled

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13 Aug 2012 09:01:30
Cech
Luiz. Cahill. Terry. Cole
Romeu
Marin. Ramires. Mata
Hazard
Torres

Possible line up for Wigan game. I think it's time mikel,lampard and essien were given less game time and put romeu back in. Romeu had a great start to last season, losing his place because of injury. I would settle for third place behind city and utd as we are in a rebuilding situation. Winning the super cup and club world cup, a good run in champions league and I think that's another excellent season.
Yes a couple of players had poor games yesterday but again it matters next week against Wigan. I think romeu should be given a chance again as he is young with great potential. We have a lot of attacking talent now so let's use it and stop playing so defensive. I am happy we are still in the market for players,Azpilicueta,cavani,hulk etc. but would like to see a midfielder with a bit more strength like fellani.

NWBLUE

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13 Aug 2012 07:42:05
Team i like to see against wigan cech luiz cahill terry cole romeu amires marin mata hazard torres

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13 Aug 2012 06:59:14
Believe me Ed I am a die hard Chelsea till the end but after watching the game today the only thing I can come up with is that RDM and Mikel must be secretly dating each other!!! How does he continue to start, not get subbed or less even be in amongst the subs, if they don't want to buy before selling then at least get Romeu in there. Heck Essien on one bad leg is better than this fool!!!

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13 Aug 2012 06:51:15
Hi Ed, I am CFC for life, trying to stay positive and don't want to get too carried away here early in season but for life of me with all our money I simply can't see why we spend all this money on great create midfielders which we desperately needed and are working hard to get a striker and continue to fool ourselves thinking Lamps or Mikel are going to cut it in the middle for us. We saw with city's speed they simply can't keep up. I know we have several to get rid of in there as well but I fear we still will struggle for top 4 until we get ourselves a proper cm who can win balls and get balls up field quickly. To me we fill this role and we are legitimate title contender with city. I see for example M'Villa is available for 10 mil as an example.... Your thoughts??

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13 Aug 2012 06:43:43
we should immediately start benching Mikel and start using Essien

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13 Aug 2012 06:12:18
We don't need another Defensive Midfielder. We have Romeu. RDM should play him more often than Mikel. Romeu has shown that he is capable enough for that position. He gives a new dimension to that squad.

Always Blue

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13 Aug 2012 05:36:50
Rodwell to City, what are your thoughts guys,should we have gone for him?
roan

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He will play what 10 games a season

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13 Aug 2012 04:10:17
I am really trying hard to wait until the end of august to see who we bring in so RDM has a full squad at his disposal but he's making it really har for me with the constant insistence on using mikel over Romeu and essien who both bring more to the game than he does. I also hate rami on the wing but I'm hoping that's just Robbie waiting to have the full squad.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 03:50:27
I waited to post anything big until I watched the game a second time so here's what I got:

Referee-I wasn't as upset with the sending off as the inconsistency. Early in the game when city were pretty rough he tried to let the game flow and didn't give some cards you would see in a regular game. But then sent off bran for a tackle that wasn't malicious (although really dumb) and carded lamps for a soft one.

Mikel-just putrid. Brings nothing to our game. Can't break up play, low energy, poor distribution, absent attack. What does he bring to the fold? Needs to be out of the lineup.

Lamps-doesn't bring much besides good offensive positioning. Marin brings much more on the wing and he could push rami into the middle who brings much more than lamps.

Hazard & mata-didn't get much of the ball (especially second half) so it was tough to get much out of them.

Torres-best player for us. Kompany had his way early but he's the best centre half in the world. As the game moved on Torres had more and more impact. Silver lining to the game.

Luiz-while I don't mind he is really aggressive as terry usually plays deep. His pace helps shield terry for being immobile. The biggest flaw for him is he needs to learn that he can't go strong into certain tackles like the one where he bowled over their player in his own box. That's just not smart.

Tk

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13 Aug 2012 01:50:07
Ed - how come Torres no longer does his slide celebration when he scores a goal, he has only done it once in a Chelsea shirt and that was when he scored his first Chelsea goal against West Ham

i miss the slide {Ed018's Note - next time i see him i'll ask him and i'll get back to you}

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If you miss it perhaps you should go back and watch all the goals he scored for Liverpool AGAINST Chelsea ;)
No but seriously he was suprisingly good last night. Perhaps he is getting back to his best?

Also you guys really need to get rid of Luiz and Mikel in my opinion. Just play Cahill and you'll look much better.

KiwiRed

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What a great question!

Tell you what if he starts scoring goals I'll slide on the pitch and try and get it on the tv for you

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Hey Ed,

Can you also tell me what the winning numbers will be in the next lotto!! My God Ed I don't know how you do it!! Stay sane partner!!!

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He did it against barca

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13 Aug 2012 01:43:56
I can't believe Chelsea aren't considering their options for a holding midfield player. Mikel is frankly not good enough. Personally i much preferred Romeu and he looked promising before his injury last year. David Luiz could probably do a job there as well, but i rate him as a cb and believe the players around him let him down today making him look poor. With such a good young player in Yann M'vila available i don't understand why we don't make a bid and move on some of the squads deadweight. I know i have mentioned M'vila before and ed said there was not a chance but i would hate to see him go Arsenal. Another point is that the traditional centre-mids we do have are more deep lying playmakers, lampard, Merieles, McEachran. We do have defence minded players in essien, mikel, Romeu and also Ramires can play either as he is useful in both attack and defence. Of these 4 only really Ramires can be seen as reliable, as Essien might not fully recover, Romeu is untested, and Mikel, well Mikel is Mikel. Hopefully during the next window we can move some players on and bring in a better player.

Rowan

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I agree, Mikel clearly is not up to scratch, there are still big Q marks over Essien (my first would be why was he not brought on, given how poorly Mikel was playing, it suggests to me RDM does not have faith in him) and Romeu is still developing. I realize it is fantasy but my preferred scenario would be M'villa coming in with Mikel/Essien leaving along with Meireles.

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R. Madrid would accept 15mil for Sahin, it simple, if not him, M'Villa, both have great potential and would be relatively cheap

JMJW

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12 Aug 2012 22:55:04
Anyone else think Cavani looks like Jessie J's ugly twin?

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I hadn't before but now I can't stop thinking of it. I suppose we know the song he will sing to his new team mates if he does join us. Pricetag by Jessie J would be appropriate.

Rowan

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He is going to sing"I will I will rock you".
roan

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Are you suggesting jessie j is not ugly ?

many people would beg to differ shes not exactly a great looker

curt

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12 Aug 2012 23:54:08
Just watched the game again, and my God how bad is Mikel!

FT9

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All us fans realise it but I don't think RDM did....Mikel didn't even get subbed!

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I'd like to see ramires and romeu play the holding role, they both like to move the ball quickly and both can defend

trueblue012

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^ totally agree ,, Romue and Ramires at the center is our best choice. Both defend well and play better passes than Mikel and Meireles.

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The two holding midfielders should be either essian and Romue or essian and Oscar

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12 Aug 2012 23:21:53
Credit to City they are a very strong side, but sending off ruined the contest, looking at replays it was a red but a minute before Savic should of got 2nd yellow for blocking Torres.
Mikel was poor, woeful infact, getting caught on the ball time and time again in that positional is just suicidal. Essien or Romeu in that role next week please.

Anyways sucks to lose but thought with 11 men we were pretty good in patches, Torres looked sharp, top finish and some promising runs.
We need 1 or 2 more signings but im pretty sure we are good enough to push City and United close this year. Real test starts next week

ShedLower

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I think romeu should start for us as holding midfield and ess as second choice and then someone from the youth side maybe chalobah third choice and then mikel last, maybe even aftter someone else because he is absolute s***e

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