Chelsea Banter Archive April 13 2017

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13 Apr 2017 21:47:01
For me Tielamens is no better than Lewis Baker.

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13 Apr 2017 10:20:15
I don't understand how clubs slap this ridiculous sums of money in the release fee when the entire contract value of the player is no where close to the release fee sum.
Does the club and the player sit and agree a random number or is there a method to reaching the release fee figure? If it is a random number then we should tie Hazard down to a contract with a 300Million Pound Release Clause and do the same with T-Bo.
The other thing that I don't understand is, why do players agree to such ridiculously prohibitive release clauses? Surely Belotti knows that no one is going to drop 100Million Euros to acquire him.
maybe any of the Eds can help out on how buyout figures are been generated.

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{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about four years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}

13 Apr 2017 21:19:09
Thanks for clearing that up ed helps make a bit more sense of all the transfer talk, interesting stuff.

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13 Apr 2017 22:20:06
thanks Ed.

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13 Apr 2017 09:26:18
Alot of talk from Drogba talking about chelsea and Lukaku.

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13 Apr 2017 10:09:45
I know Rom made a lot of mistakes in the past when he was with us and everyone has an opinion on his attitude, for Mr it's obvious he loves Chelsea, he's a child hood fan and obviously still is. I know Ed said two senior members aren't happy with him but if he really told his agent to convince the club and also Didier trying to help that means for him Chelsea is the club he wants to play for.

Let's not forget how important it is to have players on the field that actually love the club it helped us a lot in the last two decades, now we can see a fair number of the team actually do love the club, Hazard has finally come around (kisses the badge and actually talks warmly about the club now) . All I'm saying is there is nothing that comes better than the feeling that the person you support actually gives a hoot about the club you love, and for me though Rom made a mistake he obviously wants to tight it and play for the club he loves, he did say he'd go elsewhere and prove his quality that he has done and I'll personally take him back and let Costa leave. Imagine Rom and Tammy next season. Hazard, Pedro and Sanchez (hopefully) .

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13 Apr 2017 12:18:52
My guess is Lukaku will be back at the bridge next year and I know the Drog has been saying what a nice bloke he is but I'm not a fan! I don't care if he was a supporter or if he is desperate to come back, he work rate and fist touch are rubbish. I will dissapointed if we can't find a better option!

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14 Apr 2017 02:10:28
Stats speak for themselves I don't want Costa to go but Rom scores on average 16 goals a season. For an Everton (and the loan to West Brom) team that blows hot and cold and have been through a few rough patches. I think he would be lethal for us with Hazard and Pedro but it all hinges on Costa. I'm not saying whether I want him or not just that he's a pretty sound option rather than someone like Morata or Belloti who haven't been tested in England. Let's not forget the Shevchenko incident but anyway let's wait and see I still think Costa will be the main variable in what will happen whether he leaves or not.

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{Ed001's Note - stats don't really speak for themselves, that is not true. You need to add context to understand them. Lukaku is a finisher who adds nothing else to their team. Everything at Everton is built around getting the ball to him in dangerous positions so that he can score. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying he wouldn't score goals anywhere else, because he will, but he won't score as many in a team not built for him and he would also detract from the team performance as a whole.}

14 Apr 2017 11:03:57
Spot on Ed.

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16 Apr 2017 08:54:50
I agree with that ed, I think the attack would break down with him, it's like 2 different styles, he's a big target man number 9 , I made a point yesterday that some players are big fish in a small pond, like you say Everton play to lukaku strength because he's there best player, could he inhance our play when the team we are playing have 10 men camped on there own box, will he play intricate passes, and keep the attack going, I think his Belgium performances are a good measure, as he has an ok goal record I think 1 in 3, but they are a very good team so don't build there team around him, and I don't think his performances are top level, he lacks work rate, has a bad touch, isn't a clever footballer, quite robotic in his movement, each to there own, as he has a good goal record, but nah not for me.

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{Ed001's Note - he is also unable to hold up the ball and bring others into play, which is one of the things that Drogba was so good at and created so much for the team by doing so. You need a striker who can do that, when you can't play it over the top for him to run onto and use his power and pace isolated against a defender. Lukaku is very similar, though much better, to Remy, and you saw how that worked out!}