Chelsea Banter Archive September 12 2015

 

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12 Sep 2015 22:11:25
John stones has jumped from a know one to after today's performance I would agree with the club wanting to spend £35m on him in only two seasons. I just wish our club would have the same faith in our young players like loftus cheek, he should be playing before mikel all day long. I going to guess and say Jose will drop ivanovic for our next game and would of today if it was a home game. There's different ways to get the best out of the team like a 4-3-3 or even 3-5-2 wing backs, having three centre backs would make up for JT having no pace.

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12 Sep 2015 23:27:05
Don't think we will see a 3-5-2 but if we did, I'd want Begovic in goal, Terry Zouma and Cahill, Rahman LWB and Willian RWB, RLC, Matic and Oscar just in front with Costa and Falcao. Bench of Remy, Blackman, Ivanovic, Dave, Traore, Hazard and Fabregas.

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12 Sep 2015 19:54:05
Incredible that some of you want mourinho out at the fist sign of trouble :-)
I don't like the person he is at all but as a manager who do you replace him with? Brendan Rogers :-)
Some Arsenal fans would back Arssne for another 100 years of retaining the 4th place trophy even if he never spent anotyer penny on players and it seems some Chelsea fans turn on their manager quicker than Messi can turn a defence.
Next week will be interesting because if we lose 100 0 Wenger will be as safe as house's but if you dominate for 89 mins and we get a fluke goal that is deflected of the referees note book onto a passing pigeon and into your goal mourinho will be in very serious trouble, both extremes seem bizare to me

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12 Sep 2015 19:58:01
Klopp is the only one I'd be tempted to try but I agree let's stick with Jose 100%

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12 Sep 2015 20:21:31
G62 again showing common sense that is lacked by many Chelsea fans. We need to realise every team has slumps like this. We haven't had one for a while. We will recover. Now time to sort out the true Chelsea fans from the knee jerk glory hunters.

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12 Sep 2015 20:38:00
No Klopp for me. Mourinho is the perfect man for the job.

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12 Sep 2015 22:06:05
I'd rather have a bad patch at the start of the season than at the end. Hopefully we'll get back to winning ways soon.

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12 Sep 2015 22:11:23
Mou all the way, am I upset yep, do I feel disappointed yep again, do I for a second think Jose isn't the man? No, if anyone can he can. Keep the faith.

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12 Sep 2015 23:37:19
Gunner you do realize that us fans don't sack or hire managers. The frustrations that most (not all) are voicing about our manager were voiced as concerns the moment it was rumored that he was coming back to Chelsea. As a longtime participant on this site(reader mostly) I can tell you that every Chelsea fan respects Jose and wants him to win here for the rest of his career even if we sometimes disagree with his tactics. I'm sure that nothing has been said here that comes close to some of what's been said about Wenger on your page over the years of his trophy drought and yet as you said he's "safe as a house" still your Club's manager because again, fans don't sack managers.
If we lose to you lot next match and if our owner decided to make a change the number one thing that would highlight is the difference in expectations and ambitions between Chelsea and Arsenal.

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13 Sep 2015 00:02:40
Gunner62, to be fair, its a very small minority who want Mourinho out. I think most Chelsea fans will back Mourinho to the hilt.

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13 Sep 2015 10:44:20
Rory that's a very fair comment mate my post was in response to some below and the people agreeing with it.
Bluelab its difficult to argue that the expectation and ambition levels between our clubs are as wide as the Atlantic, personally I think Chelsea have in the past and most probably will at some stage in the future been to quick to sack rather than back their managers Ancelotti tops that list for me, Arsene has absolutely no pressure what so ever on him and to me that's equally wrong after so many years of not putting in a title challenge. Only 1 team can win the league each season but its not unreasonable for Chelsea Arsenal utd and City fans to expect to be in the hunt 9 times out 10 going into May.

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13 Sep 2015 10:47:12
One or two have indicated that JM is not up to it, probably the same two that were ecstatic about his return and performance last year. Because of his love, hate relationship with the press and I am sure we all agree, he doesn't help himself at times, they love to pile on the agony and rumours.

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12 Sep 2015 15:56:17
Outplayed - out-thought - out-fought. Ivan has forgotten how to play football over the summer - the first 2 Everton goals were down to him for some reason not closing down. Hazard is (hopefully) just out of form. I didn't notice whether Pedro was playing or not which is hardly a good sign (at least Cuadrado had a trick!). Fabregas - a non-entity again. Terry / Zouma doing the after you, no, no, after you waltz all afternoon.

I personally cannot blame Costa - if we're not supplying him, how is he supposed to shine.


And John Stones looked World class against us but, there-again, so did Jagielka!

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12 Sep 2015 16:42:49
I think Terry is a big problem for us as well. Both Matic and Azpi can't play their natural game because they have to protect Terry and it's holding us back.

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12 Sep 2015 17:46:51
Something ain't right at chelsea! I know I said send Jose packing, but he is a great coach, but he always falls out with people at every club he's been.azpi back at right back, baba left. Ivanovic crossing is slow predictable and so slow at decision making. Matic stepped up today.
Jose needs to play a higher pressing faster attacking football with the talent we have. None of this stand off bs.

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12 Sep 2015 20:21:15
Jose out jose out 😆😆

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12 Sep 2015 22:17:52
Bfro. I don't think you're a real Chelsea fan

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13 Sep 2015 07:50:25
Gaffy. ure right. he's a united fan. saw him trolling on the liverpool page as well.

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13 Sep 2015 09:54:58
It's hard to identify the problem ATM. I have watched Hazard, Fabregas, Matic and Ivanovic last week playing for their national teams and all of them played very well. It's not easy to figure out what's happening with Chelsea.

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12 Sep 2015 15:45:23
I don't think we where that bad today. Just individual errors seem to be punished every time this season. Hazard looks uninterested and I have not seen him play so bad since he signed. Thought Pedro looked sharp and would of liked to see loftus cheek instead of mikel. The 4-2-3-1 is killing us and it's about time to let our attacking players loose and rip up this defensive rubbish football formation.

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12 Sep 2015 16:33:31
Agree about the defensive football - totally disagree about Pedro who I thought was non-existent.

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12 Sep 2015 18:06:38
Not sure what match you were watching NW but other than a 2 short runs of possession where we looked threatening we didn't do well on either side of the ball. Aside from the goals, Begovic was made to work a lot harder than Howard as most of our possessions didn't even result in an attempt at goal. It's not just defensive, we need change in our offensive philosophy as well, if Jose does have a plan B then now is the time.

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12 Sep 2015 19:24:17
Does Jose have a plan B? Three years at each of his clubs, a sound sensible knowledge and brilliant man management will get you through for a season or two. Then when teams work out how to play you then a plan B is required, whether Jose was relying on certain players to come in during the transfer window, and has completely destroyed his plans, could be an answer. Too many players off form or not interested (well appear to show that ), things have obviously gone wrong pre season, probably in more ways than one. Now is the time for Jose to show that he has a plan B with the same set of players, and for the players to start earning their wages. I know players are not always in form , but with so many at the same time, seems strange. Perhaps they thought they would walk the league again.

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12 Sep 2015 21:22:25
But we have to stand by Jose whatever happens, there is no one better. We have no divine right to win all the time and be the top team, people must understand that. I have supported Chelsea for 50 years and believe me there will be a lot of bad times during the next 10 years. But you cannot turn around and say you have had enough, when the team is poor, that's if you are true supporter,

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{Ed018's Note - exactly. So the season might not go how we all hoped but Jose will get this turned around they'll get back in the top 4 and make some good runs in the cups}

12 Sep 2015 15:29:53
Really disappointing display from us today - too many individuals who are off the pace and appear to lack match fitness. Nevertheless, it's easy to over-analyse a run of poor form - let's hope we go back to basics against Maccabi Tel-Aviv! Winning the 50/50 ball and showing more hunger to regain possession following a turnover are improvements I would like to see as a fan.

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12 Sep 2015 14:35:21
Send mourinho packing. Something is wrong behind the scenes.

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12 Sep 2015 14:45:27
Sadly we are going to have to suck it up and prepare for our next game and hope all but Courtois are fit and ready to play. What we DO NOT need is JM to start talking about how unlucky we were and how the officials were against us. it won't change and in what appears to be his current mood, it is attention not needed. Just focus on the deficiencies and make adjustments. There appears to be some underlying issue that is causing angst within the club but JM has NOT become a bad manager overnight.

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12 Sep 2015 16:09:31
Mourinho is the best out there and I believe the best man for the job. Having said that his lack of changing formation is really frustrating. I think our lack of activity in the transfer market will be where it's all gone wrong. Last season targets where identified and brought in early hence two trophies. City spent well and are bearing the fruits of their transfer window. Pedro was a good signing but if he was a target then why was he signed near the end of the window. Pogba was never going to happen but not bringing in greizman will be a huge mistake by the club.

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12 Sep 2015 16:35:54
I don't think Griesmann was a huge mistake - we tried to get him but Atletico didn't want to sell - hardly anyone at chelsea's fault.

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12 Sep 2015 14:33:06
Ouch.

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12 Sep 2015 15:01:38
Did the Eva Carneiro incident spark some early disunity in the dressing room and/or Jose and JT had a fall out? Neither JT nor JM seems to be inspiring the team to really get going which suggests there could be a problem there. Defense looks dreadful with Ivanovich major culprit. Fabregas and Hazard far off last season form, few chances for Diego. Whole team lacks composure. Perhaps only Matic today looked at times like old self. Think we do miss Oscar who was great in first half of last season. And Eva C. should surely have served her suspension by now.

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{Ed018's Note - Matic was about the only one who played well today}

12 Sep 2015 15:18:35
Saturday home or away in front of thousands of supporters no footballer should be impacted by an Eva C type scenario. If you pick up on the story it must have caused some upset but not on the field of play. Hazard is a long way off the boil but Fabregas is carrying on exactly as he finished last season and he should not be on the field when we are digging in. Obviously all eyes are on Ivanovic who tailed off towards the end of last season but has been dreadful since the new season started and I was surprised he played today. The comment from JM regarding Rahman was that he was not Premiership fit which is disappointing as we need him on the left behind Hazard for support because Costa seems to spend as much time on that side rather than in the middle.
I would doubt Eva C will return now she has engaged with lawyers and there is more to it than just a reprimand.

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12 Sep 2015 23:49:20
Then why was he a sub for the Palace match and not today, I think that's bs because an unfit Rahman cannot possibly have been worse than what Ivan has shown in 4 matches thus far.

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12 Sep 2015 13:55:20
How come we come we put the pressure on them last 15 in first half looked good then come out second half slow again like beginning who the frigs up at chelsea

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12 Sep 2015 16:00:02
Half time killed our momentum, we really needed to score another in that period

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12 Sep 2015 13:25:15
We are being torn to shreds on the break, something needs to be done. The goal has given us momentum but our main striker, Costa is on the left more than the middle and I am sorry but where is Hazard, everything is threatening on the right.

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12 Sep 2015 13:14:05
If Mikel is the answer, God help us!

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12 Sep 2015 12:38:12
just great, ivanovic is starting again. seriously what was the point in spending 17 mill on a new left back? I don't even feel like watching the match now. the way oppositon teams have exposed our right flank (due to ivanovics poor form) is making me sick. and guess what adds salt to the wound?! bloody mikel starts as well!(instead of loftus cheek) - I cba for this crap now lol!

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12 Sep 2015 12:53:52
I was worried that I was the only one fearful of the team we had selected.

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12 Sep 2015 13:42:11
I am on all your sides this is really really crazy to me! JT and BI should be sitting and Baba should be playing for sure I'd rather even have Kennedy with his speed and put RLC with Matic Fabregas is down for me and I would try the double striker! If we don't get a point from this game everyone needs to sit and we need to try something else! How much more can we out into Fabregas BI and Terry I'm sorry but this is a joke to me! To be honest everyone wants to blame Mourinho but no one is playing like a team! Hazard is off. It sure why!

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12 Sep 2015 14:46:10
lol what did I tell you guys. how ivanovic once again going to mess us up. how poor has he been again seriously what happened to him? more importantly why does jose keep picking him? I just don't get this!

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12 Sep 2015 12:35:41
I would have gone
Azpili zouma terry baba
Cesc matic ruben
Pedro costa hazard
Bring kenedy on for hazard if he doesn't show up today I can't wait for oscar to come back I think he has a big role to play

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12 Sep 2015 12:33:15
Mikel in omg defence or what I love the special one but we could have a great attacking side with a less defensive manager I hope he changes soon

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12 Sep 2015 13:43:47
Jose is not the same manager as he was first time around . Any manager in the world would of dropped ivanovic by now he just stood off Naismith for the second goal with his hands behind his back

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12 Sep 2015 12:11:54
Just watched the pre match interview with jose. Jesus he's a miserable bloke. Cheer up man for God sake. If a team is reflected by its manager then we're in for a miserable game / season.

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12 Sep 2015 12:09:16
Is baba rahman injured? Not even in the squad

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12 Sep 2015 04:55:24
Got a long day ahead of me, and will be working during the game, which is disappointing. As is the fact Oscar is still injured. Initially he was due back on the 31st of August, then the 12th of Sept, and now the 16th. I can't imagine Jose is all too thrilled. Once again it seems our medical team is struggling to get players back up to fitness.

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12 Sep 2015 09:47:18
Watch out don't criticise the medical team or you might get sanctioned by fifa and also taken to court!

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12 Sep 2015 00:10:56
Just a bit of fun!

Suggest a former chelsea player not with us anymore that could drastically improve our side right now!

Essien! Followed by Zola then Robben

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12 Sep 2015 04:59:49
2005 Drogba and the one and only Claude Makelele.

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12 Sep 2015 09:03:19
Pat Nevin on the right wing

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12 Sep 2015 09:20:44
Makelele would improve anyside past present and most probably any future ones too, the best of the best by some distance.

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12 Sep 2015 09:22:04
Makalele is a great shout, I'd have to say Lampard or Balladk just so we'd have a threat of some long range shooting. Must be worst in the league for goals scored outside the box. That's why I've always liked Barkley as he pulls the trigger.

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12 Sep 2015 09:56:39
Prime Essien for me. Pair Matic with the Bison and we'd destroy teams.

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12 Sep 2015 10:04:44
Ballack or Essien. Has to be a midfielder who can shoot from outside the box.

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12 Sep 2015 11:41:45
The thought of Essien and Matic in the same midfield wets the appetite. I'll give anything to have a player of his mould in the present chelsea team.

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12 Sep 2015 11:05:30
Dan Petrescu at right back! My favourite all time Chelsea player. The guy was awsome!

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12 Sep 2015 15:31:40
Essien. Our midfield has been overran every game so far this season.

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