Chelsea Banter Archive May 10 2018

 

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10 May 2018 20:53:19
Four trophies to win in a season, 6 teams in premiership can possibly win it, Maybe 8 fa cup. Cl maybe 8 teams realistically. League cup maybe 12 teams because of squad rotation.

We can't win every match every year so we can't win every trophy every year
There isn't a team in world football that gets all the players it wants every season
So football does swing in roundabouts and we have been very successful over the Roman years and long may it continue.

Last night was very hard to take, but that is what makes football great the ups and downs the great times are always sweeter because of the rubbish times. If we won every match and every trophy that would be boring. We will bounce back stronger than ever. I believe the club will take a new direction with all the good youth we have next year.

We can still win a trophy this year there is a lot of clubs all over Europe that will win nothing so not all bad. I'd be happy winning a major trophy every year even if it was the league cup.

Look at Tottenham, yes champions league next year will they win it no chance make a few quid but their cabinet is empty. So cheer up lads new manager coming in that can't play any more negative than Conte. So that's positive.

Youth looking good, some great players, Yes some crap to that will be sold. Every team in top flight football has crap players in there squad that aren't good enough not just us.

Enjoy fighting for the last trophy of season, enjoy watching world cup, then we will start the merry-go-round round all over again.
Chins up boys ktbffh.

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10 May 2018 21:20:22
So refreshing to have a bit of positivity on here mate. Well said going loko down in bakayoko. I was thinking of leaving this site due to the toxic posts but you bring hope to all who wake up in the morning thinking the glass is always half full.

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11 May 2018 03:03:02
A manager has two seasons at a club. He has taken over his role after the team finishes 10th in league.
He then wins the league and takes the team to two FA cup finals.
The manager gets slaughtered for selling a centre forward and midfielder who both wanted to leave.
The manager makes it clear he is not happy the squad and in particular the squad size and gets called a moaner.
Maybe some supporters need a dose of reality!

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11 May 2018 08:10:13
TomB,
The problem was we should not have finished 10th, that being highlighted with us bouncing back the following season and the underlying issue from both Mourinho and Conte is the transfer policy.

I am sure few had an issue with the sale of the two players, the issue was the lack of suitable replacements, that is when fans refer to what we had; again is that the transfer policy?

The enthusiasm that Conte brought last year was catching and him and the crowd had a rapport we haven’t had for years if at all but this season almost from the start he has been a shadow of last year in more ways than one; I think it all emanates from the transfer support he received. Drinkwater and Barkley and to a lesser extent Palmieri are strange ones, we pay decent money and one way or another he doesn’t play them which makes me wonder if that was his way of protesting that they were not who he wanted.

“The manager makes it clear he is not happy with the squad and in particular the squad size and gets called a moaner” you say but the fans are not happy with the squad and squad size and the dismal performances have emphasised this, hence they moan as well, that’s the reality.

Like you, I would like Conte to stay. Tactically caught out but when he has what he wants his system worked very well. You don't become a bad manager over night.

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11 May 2018 10:51:13
TomB, the writing was on the wall last summer - why didn't Conte sign an extension to his contract rather than just upping the money on his existing contract - it hardly demonstrates a willingness to stay long-term!

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11 May 2018 10:36:24
Pretty sure neither Costa or Matic wanted to leave, they were forced out.

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11 May 2018 13:05:50
Conte is a bully. He didn't want Costa to stay and the way he texted him was wrong. His treatment of Luiz and others who question him is wrong as well. Tactically he is inept and he just wants a pay off. You can get away with passion alone and regimental tactics and training for one season but then you are found out and that is exactly what has happened. The players themselves were perplexed when they saw the teamsheet on Wednesday and I won't even mention the Man City away game and his game plan! The guy has been found out and I don't see him working at an elite club again.

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11 May 2018 14:13:06
Your name is dangerously close to ‘going loco down ON Bakayoko’ I can’t stop laughing.

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11 May 2018 16:19:35
G8, Chelsea fans are winners and no true winner smiles whenever he/ she fails or isn't reaching targets so don't complain to no one about the toxicity on this site. Chelsea fans are like Mancity, ManUnited, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Juventus etc. We love winning and when we don't win- it hurts.

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11 May 2018 16:21:25
Thumbs up Miss Darren Wood.

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11 May 2018 16:59:34
Trublue, as I understand it, both Matic and Costa wanted to go. So goodbye and good luck as far as I’m concerned.
G8, I do not believe Conte is a bully but I do believe he has an over whelming desire to win.
The important thing for me is how does the club move forward. We still haven’t replaced ME:

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11 May 2018 17:09:01
You must be a southern Liverpool fan as a local one would clearly not Cesar any sort of salahd.
But I'm glad I amused you.

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11 May 2018 21:16:42
Obinna why attack G8 it's his opinion and we can still win a trophy so smile about that
And you compare us to winners like man city and man utd we have won more than them in last ten years
What is it you want exactly
To win every match every trophy that doesn't happen
Would you prefer to be trophy less like spurs or arsenal every year but make top four I don't
Modern football fans are blinded by this top four rubbish every year for what end
Up until a few years ago only 1 team qualified the actual champions
Liverpool have the chance to be champions of Europe without winning there league in nearly thirty years that to me is stupid and they were seeded in there group stage why
Don't be blinded by the if your not in champions league your nothing that's media driven rubbish

I have always looked at Europe as a sideline treat not a necessity
The league is most important
We can still win four trophies next year maybe five so cheer up it's not as if the club is skint.

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11 May 2018 21:21:06
I shall complain about the toxic bull on here as much as I like Obinna. Constructive comments are most welcome as are balanced views but some just post rubbish.

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12 May 2018 12:32:21
No Liverpool born and bred mate haha love some of the witty names people come up with haha. Don’t really know what the issue has been with your lot this season, just look a bit bereft of ideas. Reckon you’ll spend big this summer? Or do you think it’s a case of having to?

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12 May 2018 16:19:55
We are fans, we react most times to how well or badly our team is doing. I guess some tend to hold-in their feelings very well while some can't.
We aren't doing well and our closest competitors are getting stronger by the day (we aren't even sure that the board will fortify the team for next) . It's very difficult not to criticize the team as it is which could most times be destructive rather than constructive.
I bet you that if we start showing promising signs- our fans will speak well of the team. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't be loyal to the team when its not doing well.

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10 May 2018 20:18:03
Willian should command a decent transfer fee of up to £50-£60m- take that money add some more millions and bring in L. Bailey and N. Fekir. Stay away from A. Martial as much as we possibly can.

Drinkwater can bring in £30m, take that money and bring in Jorginho or Bryan Cristante that is if we can't buy Milinkovic Savic (who for sure should be way more expensive)

Zapacosta can bring in £15-£20m, add some millions and bring B. Hendricks.

Try as much as possible to swap Courtois for Oblak, that is if Athletico Madrid and Courtois will be interested in the deal. I am quite sure Athletico would like Courtois but I have got a feeling Courtois would prefer Real Madrid- which could be tied to why Real Madrid didn't sign Kepa of Athletico Bilbao. But if signs an extension with Chelsea- GOOD.

Sell Pedro, keep Fabregas for now until we get a playmaker with his creativity.

Bring back M. Batshuayi, I am hoping he would have improved a lot

ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AS THE TRANSFER WINDOW OPENS BUT IF PEDRO, ZAPACOSTA, DRINKWATER AND MAYBE WILLIAN STAYS NEXT YEAR AND NO ATTACKING MIDFIELDERS COME IN- THEN MAYBE AREN'T READY TO COMPETE.

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10 May 2018 20:29:20
Why are you shouting? CAPITALS OFF please.

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10 May 2018 22:37:44
Just my way of highlighting.

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10 May 2018 22:53:32
Yes sir, I won't shout again. Sorry.

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11 May 2018 09:39:50
Hang on? Half of you thought Zappacosta was better than Moses? I take it we've all watched him for more than 2 minutes now?

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11 May 2018 16:24:26
For me- Victor Moses is better than Zapacosta all day long. Our likes are personal.

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12 May 2018 14:24:49
Being better than Moses is hardly a huge compliment!

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10 May 2018 17:19:54
Before yesterday's draw we had hope for top four, a fools hope, but still hope nonetheless; that all seems to have gone now.

You can't help but wonder if yesterday's team selection was Conte dropping the mic on the board before he walks, or is thrown, out of the door. A message to the board that, as he's told them, the squad isn't good enough to rotate. I don't really think he'd sabotage a game like that, it's his reputation too, but Moses had actually hit some degree of form, Cahill had solidified the defence since coming back in, Hazard and Giroud were playing well together and it was a MUST win game. If it wasn't sabotage then it was incompetence.

There's been a little bit too much incompetence this season. Last season Conte talked about the coach being a tailor, fitting the system to the squad like a well made suit. Unfortunately in more than a few games this season our squad have been walking into our weddings wearing shorts and sandals. The system that worked so well last season has been found out, either by high pressing (vs. more adventurous teams) or very deep defensive lines (vs. teams like Huddersfield) . Conte's inability to counter these systems has been our downfall this season.

There are undoubtedly going to be big changes at the club, and with the world cup only a few short weeks away and the window closing ealier we should see them sooner rather than later. Now it's just time to sit back and look forward to another fresh start.

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10 May 2018 19:55:16
I should imagine within 48 hours of the last game we will know about those that are up for sale and Conte's position and 'possibly' any transfer requests going in with the shorter window/ World Cup this year.

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10 May 2018 20:37:02
You make a good point J. Conte has spent all season moaning but his reputation is now under increasing question. I don't see him walking into any top jobs now, he has been found out tactically and that goes back to the FA Cup Final last Season. I think he wants a pay off and maybe a year off, he looks broken to me and probably needs it. To drop Moses, Cahill, Hazard and Giroud in a must win game when all 4 had been playing well was stupidity beyond stupidity.

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10 May 2018 21:08:39
G8: Good to see we are singing from the same song sheet. Unbelievable decision bordering on irresponsible. Even YOU must have been distraught watching last night?

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10 May 2018 22:14:22
He definitely wants the pay off, and he'll get it soon.

This is two clubs he's openly complained about, whilst still under their employment, now. Bad coaching aside, I'd imagine that's raised a red flag with prospective future employees.

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11 May 2018 09:22:36
C1955,
It was bordering on irresponsible and I actually think he is inept now. I think it was ED01 who quite rightly pointed out that he is tactically weak when we appointed him. Others like RDM, a club legend who won the Champions League and FA Cup have been outed far quicker and I think with the players we have a change of Manager last December when he was moaning would of seen us finish top 4 comfortably.

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11 May 2018 11:32:12
G8: I agree absolutely irresponsible given the points we needed to exert pressure on the two clubs and there is not doubt he has tactical shortcomings although with the players he feels he needs I think his 'tactic' works well. There are many who detest Mourinho both Chelsea and non-Chelsea fans but he is one of a few who can change tactics per match and/ or during a game and get the desired result. I would like him to stay another season because this constant lack of continuity is not doing the players and club any good at all and we also need that enthusiasm he generated last season on the touchline. If we change the manager he will want players he likes and there will be existing players he doesn't and it creates a massive upheaval; also, we must remember, tactics aside, the players have not covered themselves in glory. Next week according to reports we will find out what is happening and then we start all over again.

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10 May 2018 13:30:30
The biggest concern last night was not the selection but the formation. Why play five at the back against a 10 man defensive Huddersfield? Let me make that an 11 man defense. Hazard on in place of Zappacosta from the start. Baffling.

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10 May 2018 14:38:45
Conte only knows one way of setting up, last season took people by surprise and we benefitted, this year we have been predictable, and all those 1-0 that costa got us we haven’t had this year, no spark up top mate or match winners.

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10 May 2018 15:23:53
Too defensive minded even against smaller teams.

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10 May 2018 11:17:46
Contes going to rest players in fa cup final for the World Cup.

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10 May 2018 12:17:43
Hahahahahahahahahaha. I love Chelsea fans.

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10 May 2018 17:34:26
Conte doesn't deserve to manage us in the FA Cup final - sack him NOW for incompetence!

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10 May 2018 10:51:55
Restating my earlier ground, Giroud signing has shown that lack of goalscorer/ striker is mainly to blame for our season. Morata is not enough for Chelsea and earlier we realized that the better. I can bet that with Costa in the team our season would have been different. That striker that scores with little opportunity especially when the team is not playing at their best. I'm not blaming anybody for his sale, after all he had wanted to go and all his baggage but we need a striker of his ilk.
Conte has some blames to take but he seems a frustrated man all season like the club reneged on their promise to strengthen. That passion Conte was known for all his career was halted. I get our frustration as fans but Conte shouldn't be discarded at this time as all fantasy coaches banded around are not better him. Reminds me of Ancelotti sacking. I believe Conte can be better off with investments in the team as he's a winner. He may not play like Guardiola but is as well effective. So let's see what happens but sacking him is not the best IMO.

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10 May 2018 08:44:41
Lee Bowyer quoted this morning in the DM claiming Jay Dasilva is better than Ashley Cole was at the same age.
Promote the youth.

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10 May 2018 14:44:26
A good friend of mine is a Charltom season ticket holder and he rates Dasilva incredibly highly, he also won player of the year for the addicks this season. I’m sure he’d be a decent option as cover at wing back but the premier league is a huge step up from league 1.

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10 May 2018 15:45:30
The kid (Jay DaSilva) is always got the ability (to play in the Chelsea squad) but not at this time. He's still got a lot to learn and needs quality experience (loan) . l.

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10 May 2018 21:08:34
Add Mason Mount (Vitesse player of the season) to DaSilva - but I agree with obinna, both are a season or 2 away from our 1st team.

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