Chelsea Banter Archive May 10 2012
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10 May 2012 18:48:36
team against blackburn
turnbull - cant risk cech getting injured
hutchinson- was thinking bosingwa
luiz- game time before final
terry- good for youngsters playing with him
bertrand- obviously
meireles- suspended for final
ramires- suspended for final
piazon- excited to see what he can do
sturridge- might pass to prove something but probabley wont
lukaku- played well against liverpool
malouda - no one else unless someone from youth squad. feruz? would probabley be better
will probabley win but if we dont doesnt really matter. real game is next week
trout
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Liking ur idea for piazon he looks amazing be good to see him play a 1st team game
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AND it will give Terry chance to get his confidence back after the mauling he received last game
Puzzled
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Puzzled u r the most annoying person on here, I would love to make u suit your name and cut you up into little pieces
Blue John {Ed002's Note - Actually you are all expected to play nicely together now.}
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ED002 I WAS playing nicely - I made what I thought was a factual statement. Terry was given the run-around last game so it is better if he plays again quickly and tries to get it out of his system
Puzzled {Ed002's Note - It applies to the Chelsea supporters as well. The website will become much less abusive. We are now selling bumper stickers "I've been to www.football-rumours.co.uk - it was nice"}
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Ed why do you let puzzled post on our page when he blatantly is an irateing person who thnks beating a 2nd string team is the highlight of the season
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We should play some of the youth in this match and piazon,lukaku should be given a chance...
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10 May 2012 14:34:07
Is it just me or is there anyone else out there that thinks Rdm shouldnt get the job.In the cups he has done well but in all honesty he had nothing to lose in cl matches.It was obvious what tactics to employ agaisnt barca and with a bit of luck it came off.the fa cup we had to beat brummies,leicester and a lucky decision against spurs got us to the final which got us 2 0 up against the pool and then we were rubbish in last 20 mins.
But what worries me is his resting of players and tactics in premiership games.
he rested players against the arse fulham lfc and tottenham all games we should of fielded our top team to go for fourth place.
I know the old chestnut of we had important cup games against barca and benfica and all that crap but i would of rather beat fulham and spuds at home to secure cl footy for next year.
we beat barca on the tuesday night and fielded our strongest side against qpr 4 days later and won 6-1 then he rested players for the newcastle match and if we had won that game we could of gone fourth.
why play a strong side against a sh"£ team and a weakened side against our rivals for cl spot doesnt make any sense.
he had a lucky win against villa a very lucky win versus wigan {2 offside goals }
against fulham arsenal the spuds liverpool and newcastle in the prem we have been very poor since he took over.
out of a possible 33 points we have amassed a grand total of 18 under rdm not great is it
Avb last 11 games his record was 15 out of 33 points.
So other than a few good games in the cup and a lot of luck to me there hasnt been any real improvement in the league and that is what i hope ROMAN looks at as well.
KTBFFH
gareth 1973
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It tends to make things tough when you play twice a week and everyone else only plays once.
Tk
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I agree i dont want him for as manager next season. i think our points are 15 out 30 in the league
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I fully agree with you gareth we need a manager who had the command over the player...and tactically he should be sound because everytime luck won't win us the game or such defensive approach(like Barca)...we need someone like mourinho or likewise
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Dont be too harsh lads hes done alot and cleaned up alota avb mess
Carefree
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Yes me too don't want RDM for a manager as in my opinion he represents the old players i.e the past when we need a manager with proven record (hopefully more than a year), can command respect with a strong vision for the future. Those who want RDM are just shortsighted
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Roberto di matteo is the right man for the job because hes pasionate for football and wants every player at chelsea to rediscover the pasion from with in themselths and thats is what chelsea have been missing theyve got the ego,s they have the talent but they have been lacking pasion but since r.d.m. took over there enjoying the love for the game againg something thats been missing for years well done di matteo
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Who cares he will stick with the old guard but we need to move on. yes we won fa cup & maybe champions league but in the league possible 15 point out of 30 he aint gd enough!
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10 May 2012 07:54:00
who do you think we need to get?
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Hulk, azipucuelta, moura, fellaini
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Lucas Moura, Javi Martinez, Azpiliqueta, Hoilett and a striker...Falcao, Cavani and Higuain seem unlikely so don't know who the striker might be!
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I believe that none of the above in the capacity mentioned and in term of the way that Chelsea run the business will be done.
We will not go into "bidding wars" with City, so any of their targets will have to be put off. Means no Hazard.
Falcao was there for the taking last summer. If we didn't go for hime then - why now? Coz he's just won Europa League? Hasn't he also done it last term around?
Moura could be a Chelseq player if his agent somehow doesn't make another major club interested. Even PSG in my opinion. Plus Ribeiro is a pain in the ass and every time we went into business with him (Robinho, Neymar) we came out embarassed.
Cavani is an obvious target and only if Real do not go for him, we have a chance, if not and Real get him we may get Higuain as told by ED002 a while back.
One thing for sure is we need major recruitment success this summer. Let's not get fooled by the swansong of our "old guard". They all know that this is their last chance to pull it off together. CL is there for the taking and we could very well get the major prize, but nevertheless we are miles of 1st place in EPL.
Be it AVB or RDM we are there with same negative results and nowhere near the ability to challenge for top spot. We badly need a lot of players.
I believe we will have no Drogba, Malouda, Essien, Ferreira, Bosingwa and Kalou at the club next term. So we will need at least the same amount of players of a better quality to replace them. And then wish for a miraculous outcome of all of them somehow gel together coherently. So much job to be done and Marin is just one bit.
On the personal side, i just can't understand how the dutch starting right back is of no interst to us at 5 million euros. I know it is a press quote, but the number is almost accurate, as Ajax have wanted 8 in january. How is this not a bargain?
JG {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with being a bargain but with the player wanting to play elsewhere. Van Der Wiel will probably move in the summer and his preference remains Spain - and something may yet be worked out with Valencia. Real Madrid have also shown an interest in the player. Chelsea may maintain an interest but they remain more interested in Azpilicueta.}
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I believe we need, Apzilicueta, a deep lying playmaker, Schurrle and a right winger...
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How can some one disagree tht we dont need a playmaker right back & a winger ??
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We need Van der weil,Hazard,Moura,Strong striker whoever good available(in place of Drogba)
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10 May 2012 08:28:38
if we dont get champions league next season....we wont get the best players
our team will most probably be like this....
cech
ivanovic terry luiz/cahill cole
mikel lampard
ramires mata torres/kalou
drogba
thats not a bad team even in the worst case....i can still bet on these players to win the league if they all play to their class....personally i wudnt worry if we miss out on europe
just saying that its still a damn good team!!
taby
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Yeah on paper it looks a decent team but in reality not so much. with or without champions league football next season I believe we will still get who we want. I mean athletico got a player like Falcao without champions league . Plus we are still a big team and not playing champions league football for the first time in 10 years will not change that, if anything it would make us stronger and build a young and hungry team. Keep the faith.
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It ain't a gd team look since di Matteo took over cup runs ave been great league is well bellow average in other words not fukin gd enough! With the exact team you've basically put down BLUEBOY1
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10 May 2012 06:59:27
Congratulations to the youth team on their FA Youth Cup victory. The development of youth this season has been one of the highlights, a highlight that can only be eclipsed by the senior team capturing the Champions League. How can we reward the youth players who are undoubtedly, what with the new financial regulations, going to form a large part of the future of the club?
Why don’t we offer some of them a senior debut at the weekend against Blackburn? I’ve been saying for a while now that I’d certainly like to see Lucas Piazon getting some game time with the senior team. We have nothing to either gain or loose against Blackburn, and as they are relegated already we couldn’t be criticised by the league for putting a weak team out.
Along with the youth team I would like to see Hutchinson get a start at right or centre back, Ferriera has been a great servant to the club but this game is the perfect chance to look to the future and he certainly is not the future.
Here is how I would line up against Blackburn…
**************Cech****************
Hutchinson****Luiz**Terry*******Bertrand
*************Obi Mikel***************
**********Ramires**Lampard**********
Kalou*************************Paizon
***************Torres**************
Sub appearances from Chalobah, Islam Feruz and Mata.
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I wouldn't play mata at all, more Torres or luiz
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Lukaku?
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I would piazon some time on the field rather than lampard {Ed002's Note - He is very much seen as the long term replacement for Lampard.}
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I agree with most of that. Id include the guys who are suspended for the finals, youth players who can play at this level (hutch, feruz, piazon, chalobah, and ake). I don't want anyone to risk injury for the finals. I'd probably go:
Blackmon
Hutch ivan terry Bertrand
Miereles chalobah
Ramires piazon feruz
Lukaku
Tk
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I agree with most of that. Id include the guys who are suspended for the finals, youth players who can play at this level (hutch, feruz, piazon, chalobah, and ake). I don't want anyone to risk injury for the finals. I'd probably go:
Blackmon
Hutch ivan terry Bertrand
Miereles chalobah
Ramires piazon feruz
Lukaku
Tk
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Agree with TK
BLUEBOY1
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I did, understandably, forget about Meireles! Blackman in goal is also a very good call!
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WTF where is mata?
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10 May 2012 03:27:13
My first 11 for next season
-----------------Cech-----
Azpiliqueta-ivanovic-terry-cole-----
----------Ramires-----Romeu-------------
-gotze----------mata-------------Marin
----------------Higuain--------------
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INS
Marin 8 m
Azpiliqueta 12m
Gotze 40m
Higuain 30m
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Total 90mOUTS
essien 8m
Malouda 1£
Bosingwa free
Torres 25m
Turnbull 1m
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Total 34 mOverall loss 56m
I know lots will disagree but I think we can do better than Torres and higuain is a consistent performer who always works hard for his team. I think we should try to get drogba and Kalou to sign a new contract as drogba still seems to have more to offer and Kalou is a good player to have in the squad. Bring courtois back from loan as we need some half decent back up for Cech which is sorely lacking. We need to start integrating in youth such as mcheachren, Lukaku, Bertrand etc. What do people think?
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No chance of getting Gotze.
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I wan stick with torres
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10 May 2012 01:11:19
Hey Ed002, why did the powers that be at Chelsea allow the squad to stagnate? We have finished in a miserable 6th place and now have to beat Bayern in a 1 off match to be in the competition next season. The comparisons with Liverpool are scary and look at the state of them these days. We won't attract the very top players without big wages (which We can't afford to offer as freely before) and Champions League football. I can't get My mind around how We got into this situation. {Ed002's Note - Efforts have always been made to bring players in but there is no way the players will be bought simply because the right ones are not available.}
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