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21 Sep 2020 09:06:29
Simon Johnson reports that we are still in for another holding mid and that Lamps doesn't see Kanté as a #6 and that Rice is our main target.

Adding anyone that complements our midfield is a must in my opinion, be it Rice or anyone else. But my question is: is it really good to play Kanté so high up the pitch? He is not a #8.

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21 Sep 2020 10:11:18
Kante needs to have a partner beside him. He is at his best when he can press and break forward and cover ground with someone who is mobile enough behind him to sit and cover, 4231 looks to be ideal for us, Lampard seems to be 433 or 343 playing players out of position to get them in. Remember the abuse Sarri got for where he played kante,

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21 Sep 2020 10:13:22
Yeah, it's true that he doesn't offer goals of key passes, but I think the thing that Kante has that Frank loves is his workrate and uncannot ability to intercept passes and make key tackles. If you imagine that being done further up the pitch as part of a press, it will put pressure on ball playing defenses and hopefully cause a bunch of problems for teams. And unlike some other players, he has the engine to do that all game.

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21 Sep 2020 10:15:29
Sarri and Lamps obviously believe he is better as a box to box midfield player.

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21 Sep 2020 10:27:54
I just don't understand why we don't play Kante where Kante plays best, in front of the back 4 in a holding midfield role. Jorginho hasn't got the legs to play that role, players just waltz around him and then they're free to attack our CBs.

We saw once in yesterdays game when Kante broke into the box, most midfielders would have had a crack at goal. But Kante just isn't comfortable enough, so why even let him venture forward? Because, and I don't want this to sound harsh but Kante is useless around the oppositions penalty box.

Kante is the best out there at what he does, but the position we play him is just pointless as he doesn't offer anything going forward.

Even if we don't play Jorginho, Frank will still more often than not play Kovacic in the deeper role over Kante.

It all just boggles my mind!

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21 Sep 2020 10:49:42
Our need for a solid DM clearly can’t be over emphasised.

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21 Sep 2020 10:51:39
I agree that the best position for Kanté is a 2 man pivot. We don't have that at the moment so for the next game I say let's play him as a #6 and see what he does.

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21 Sep 2020 11:34:51
I think there is a massive over reaction to the loss vs Liverpool where we played with 10 men.

If we buy a DM then that was the plan prior to Liverpool. 100% fact that yday's game had no bearings.

We held our own until the sending off. It changed everything.

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21 Sep 2020 12:18:37
I agree Shak. We were well in the game until the sending off.

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21 Sep 2020 13:22:03
I think any over reactions are brought about because of expectations.
IMO judgements should be made when we have our best team on the pitch on a regular basis.

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21 Sep 2020 14:29:37
Absolutely CFCShack. Our midfield was imbalanced since 2 years ago. We haven't addressed it yet but I believe it will be sorted sooner or later. I think we just need to find the right formation with the players we have until we sell a few players and buy a new DM.

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21 Sep 2020 15:09:19
The ‘imbalance’ started right after Matic joined Manchester United.

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21 Sep 2020 16:28:54
Obinna, Matic had a complete shocker the season before he was sold.

We got a good price for a player who was producing zero at our club and has hardly pulled up trees at Surrey Utd.

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21 Sep 2020 18:08:17
I don’t understand managers doubting Kante, Kovacic is so much better going forward.
Lamps needs to get his head out his ass. Playing a havertz new to the league out of position on his first two games is a joke. I’m not impressed with his management so far this season! At all.

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21 Sep 2020 18:44:33
A very unfortunate position for his head to be in.

I’m not a fan of the so called false nine. If nothing else it just sends out a message that you are interested in sitting back to hit teams on the counter. We should be better than that.

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21 Sep 2020 19:19:58
@Obinna: I agree with you, but Matic was doing poorly and it was the right time to move on from him and we got a pretty good price. But we haven't been able to replace him properly.
I am not convinced with Kova at all! He is medicore in my opinion. We wouldn't have signed him if there wasn't any ban.

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21 Sep 2020 19:39:04
Matic won league with us and then replaced by Bakyoko, we then went and finished 5th. It’s about balance, kante could press all over and knew matic was behind him. It was right time to sell matic but we Didn’t replace him, same with matic / Fabregas, matic would be the cover for when cesc was helping In attack and playing that final ball amd getting high assists. Again we had balance, now we have kante who still does his job but kovecic and Jorginho other nothing in actual play.

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21 Sep 2020 20:09:51
Matt, if you went back and looked at Matic in his last season, you will see how many goals came from the left side in particular between the CH and LB. Hie was excellent in our Premiership winning season and as a natural left footer he did give the team some balance.

I do agree with you and Obinna that he hasn’t really been replaced but for me he was past his best. I was ok with him leaving.

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22 Sep 2020 08:51:08
Do people still think Kante ever played the "Makelele" role?

Kante has never just sit in front of a back 4!

{Ed001's Note - I have given up on explaining that one dihanio, it never seems to go in.}

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22 Sep 2020 09:40:05
Ed001, for me matic played that role and allowed kante to roam freely to press and break-up play. Kovacic is not that type of player. He is a different midfielder but I belive Gilmour is better suited to the role he plays ( Modric type of role) . Kante is more close to essien from our past and I see both are close in terms of the play. Problem now is we have jorginho and kova who needs to be moved on and i don't see that happening in the current market. Both are little one dimensional players and jorginho speed is a concern in epl. Kova is better player of removing the press. But we need to think about balance which means he has to be sold for a dm who can complement kante/ Gilmour depending on who plays in the match. For creativity in mf needed havertz / mount/ rlc o be there. Unfortunately rlc does not seems to have full fitness for longer periods which means it's bet havertz / mount for rotation. Ampadu for me is the dm we are looking for and would have complemented the squad well. Unfortunately he is out on loan and that means we still need to look for a dm ( read rice) this window which frankly baffles me as we had that player on hand. Depending on the match on hand we need to choose 2 mf between a dm and kante/ Gilmour. Kova can be retained till Gilmour is back and to be sold in Jan. We need a dm who can sit in front of defence. Hope we sort this in this window. Also we still need a back up rw (perisic) as gk seems sorted now.

{Ed001's Note - I agree completely on Kante/Kovacic/Gilmour points. I also fully agree that it was a mistake to send Ampadu out on loan rather than giving him the chance to nail down the holding role this season. He will be great for Sheff Utd but he was needed for Chelsea and it is an odd decision not to put him in the line up.}

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17 Sep 2020 13:57:59
Ed002 are roma still interested in jorginho? Anyone else interested, maybe bayern to replace thiago? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing right now.}

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20 Sep 2020 19:28:05
I wish he had gone by now.

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15 Sep 2020 15:59:29
Interest in hudson odoi again from bayern what's your thoughts guys would you sell? Ed il ask but i am aware of the answer would chelsea be open to selling odoi? if the price was right and he wanted to go which i assume he would now been down the pecking order with ziyech pulisic and mount all ahead of him and werner also able to play out wide.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are typically not a club who would refuse the desire of a player to leave if an acceptable offer were made and if a replacement were to be available.}

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15 Sep 2020 16:32:12
Depends the sort of money we were offered. And what replacements are available, does he want to leave too,

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15 Sep 2020 16:40:59
I personally think he isn't going anywhere and he will be a big part of our season. But I could see a guy like RLC depart, perhaps in January if he doesn't perform.
Is there any talks regarding Loftus-Cheek at the moment Ed002?

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15 Sep 2020 16:53:27
Bayern weren't willing to pay what we wanted for him before he singed a new contract. If a deal is struck now, would it be for more than they offered before? He's had a troubled few months, with injuries and his arrest, plus there just seems to be an issue between him and the club.

But he'd certainly need replacing, as we're short of natural wingers. I think this will be a deal for January, if at all.

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15 Sep 2020 17:55:27
I’m tempted to say that I don’t think CHO has been treated fairly by Lamps but I haven’t seen him train and I have no idea how the coaches view his fitness.

I think there were questions raised about his advisors when it looked like he might be going to BM before he signed a new contract. Recent events may also mean he is keeping poor company or he might just have a poor attitude.

Any of these things could be true but it could just be that he is struggling to get over his bad injury and the coaches are looking after his best interests.

Anyway, I think he need to play very well when he gets the chance of he is going to a bench warmer even though this going to be an strange season.

Every player has to perform or lose their place in the team. We now have a deep enough squad to make sure this is the case for everyone.

RLC also needs game time but let’s judge him when he is playing in his best position but last nights performance was disappointing even in the strange position he was asked to play.

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15 Sep 2020 20:18:48
We're idiots if we lose Callum. There's a reason Bayern want him, and it's because he'll become one of the top wingers in world football. If Lampard never starts him though then we'll never see that ability. Frustrating situation, and I hope Lampard gives him a fair chance.

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15 Sep 2020 21:23:38
CHO has to stay. There are no ifs or buts with this one. This man is hungry and he will get a lot of game time .

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16 Sep 2020 08:49:04
Just saying: If there’s any chance that Hudson Odoi goes for someone like Jadon Sancho, I wouldn’t think twice (selling him), otherwise he stays.

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16 Sep 2020 10:23:25
Ed002, do we have a list of players that if CHO leaves we will look to replace. Also would we consider a deal so late in the window or will this fizz away to comeback at a later date . winter window maybe

Appreciate your input ed
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach for Hudson-Odoi at this time.}

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16 Sep 2020 14:08:25
Surely we would only CHO if we were replacing him with Jaden Sancho.

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17 Sep 2020 07:37:55
With the fixtures to be played this season and the timing (shortened) every player in the squad will get game time and starts this season. It will be up to the individual whether they take those chances or not, if they do they will secure their spot in our squad, if they don't they will move on at season end. That is how professional sport works. So, with CHO (and every other player tbh) the ball is entirely in their court. No gimmies at this level, you got to work for it (whilst being obscenely paid I might add)

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17 Sep 2020 11:41:44
Absolutely Pete.

Plenty of game time for all the players this season.

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14 Sep 2020 17:08:07
Guys, keep an eye on Uwakwe's loan at Accrington Stanley (who are they - if you know, you know) . There's every chance he'll be bumped up a level in January, similarly to how Gallagher was.

What are we going to do with all this talent coming through?

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14 Sep 2020 17:37:01
Selling more than a few next season I reckon.

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14 Sep 2020 18:35:06
He does look good. His bagged 4 goals in no time. maybe this is too easy for him.

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14 Sep 2020 21:28:40
I think he could of gone to a Championship team, but he'll still struggle for consistency at this level.

If ever there's an example of there just not being enough room for all these kids, it's Tariq Lamptey. That lad is absolute class.

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15 Sep 2020 08:48:12
Lamptey was absolutely immense. His speed and dribbling quality is really good.

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15 Sep 2020 09:43:12
But would still rather have James Shak.

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15 Sep 2020 14:09:05
I can see Lamptey move to a top 6 side if he continues like this tbh. But I agree Tom, I'd prefer James. But who knows how high the ceiling is for both players.

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15 Sep 2020 14:33:46
Brighton's a great place for him to learn the game, I really like what they're doing at that club. Lamptey, White and Dunk have the foundations of a great defence. There'd be worse places for Maatsen or Anjorin to get loans.

Yes, I prefer James too.

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11 Sep 2020 13:06:33
How many more signings do you expect the club to make before the 5th of october Ed?

{Ed002's Note - A couple I would think but it could change because of departures.}

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11 Sep 2020 15:06:18
Great question Samuel. Eds answer will create plenty of turmoil for some!

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11 Sep 2020 15:11:17
Ed002, Do u expect Emerson and Alonso both to leave this window?
Also do u expect Jorginho or Kante to leave this window?
Any update on Barkely RLC or Drinkwater . can we expect any departures here?

Thanks in advance ED002.

{Ed002's Note - I provided a list of likely departures before - nothing has changed.}

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11 Sep 2020 16:04:20
Kepa Arrizabalaga (G) no decision yet but Chelsea has a list of possible replacements that they are looking at – right now don’t expect him to leave
Jamal Blackman (G) now 26 and wants to be playing will be likely made available after a loan to Bristol Rovers
Willy Caballero (G) out of contract in the summer but will be offered a one year deal.
Tariq Lamptey (RB) gone to Brighton after turning down offers from Lille and PSG
Marcos Alonso (LB) will likely move in the summer
Baba Rahman (LB) will be made available
Davide Zappacosta (LWB) will be available if fully fit
Juan Castillo (LB) Ajax will likely take up their option to buy
Jake Clarke-Salter (CB) club to discuss his future with him - interest remains from Germany and I suspect Championship sides
Marc Guehi (CB) loan to Swansea
Josh Grant (CB/ FB) will move to Plymouth
Matt Miazga (CB) will be made available – recovery from injury will need to be checked first
Michael Hector (CB) joined Fulham
N'Golo Kante (DM/ CM) there will be interest but could be priced out of a move

Tiemoue Bakayoko (DM/ CM) Monaco may take up their option to buy - else available for sale
Mario Pasalic (CM) will join Atalanta in the summer
Danny Drinkwater (CM) Chelsea want him moved on and a loan to Aston Villa gives a short term solution – but he will be gone in the summer
Tariq Uwakwe (CM) Should have got a January loan and the be assessed in the summer – but a year long loan may help him the – Hull are very keen
Danilo Pantic (CM) Fehervar wanted to take up their option and then sell him on – but he returned to Chelsea – expect a sale in the summer
George McEachran (CM) HG status will be secured with 6 more months in England - so a loan to SC Cambuur until the summer
Conor Gallagher (CM) loan to Swansea
Kenedy (LM/ LW/ LB) Getafe will take up their option in all probability and may sell him on
Marco van Ginkel (CM/ AM) Chelsea would like to keep him but a new contract and a slightly complex deal with PSV might be possible
Lewis Baker (CM) FD will not take up their option and Chelsea will look to get what they can for him.
Ross Barkley (CM/ AM) has had his head down for a couple of years but has been playing up lately - Chelsea will look to move him on with RLC near fitness (although he may never be able to play a full match or consecutive full matches)
Nathan (LW/ AM) contract extension and another year at Atletico Mineiro
Izzy Brown (AM/ F) not happening for him - will be available
Victor Moses (RW) available in the summer after a loan to Fenebace and Inter. Inter have an option to buy him.
Pedro (RW)
Willian (RW/ LW) Chelsea want him to stay and Willian wants to stay - the offer is a one year deal and then a discussion next year against the desired 2 year deal.
Lucas Piazon (LW) wants to stay in England - probably will be available - no option for Rio Ave
Michy Batshuayi (S) Chelsea have no interest in letting him go in January and will need to talk to him about his future - there is support to keep him at the club
Charley Musonda (S) will likely need to drop down a level or two - available
Ike Ugbo (F) expect another loan
Olivier Giroud (S) has a number of offers but will move in the summer when his contract runs out – Inter want OG or Mertens.

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11 Sep 2020 16:09:07
Thanks Ed. Let’s hope on of them is Rice.

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11 Sep 2020 18:16:47
Given Mendy is one which other position do you think we might look to sign a player for Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to predicting signings.}

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11 Sep 2020 20:37:45
Im guessing another Lb if alonso and emerson go and maybe a winger as we only have pulisic ziyech and hudson odoi.

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12 Sep 2020 11:51:50
OK Ed002 but you mentioned a couple of possible signings hence the question.

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10 Sep 2020 23:44:51
Ed002
Do you think Giroud will move to Juve?
Many thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Olivier Giroud (S) is one of a number of options being considered as a replacement for Gonzalo Higuian as he is easier to sign than Suarez - but he is not first choice. I think it unlikely.}

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11 Sep 2020 12:11:58
Thanks Ed002 delighted to hear that as he is a very valuable member of the squad.

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11 Sep 2020 00:14:33
Giroud going to Juve on a 2 year deal. Chelsea wants 5M€.
Giroud is a true pro but as we have seen from last season, he wasn't in Lampard's plan until late in the season. He doesn't suit how Lamps wants to play so that's why we are open to let him go in my opinion. Apparently Giroud looks for more regular football as well.
I think we won't replace him, Lamps will use Anjorin in his place.
Best of luck to Oli. A class act and always a pro.

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11 Sep 2020 08:41:09
Club have come out and rubbishd it. Please stop taking Sky Italia as gospel, they don't have a clue.

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11 Sep 2020 08:43:35
I’m not so sure he will leave us. He seems to have a good relationship with Lamps and I think he is probably very settled in London.

He will, I’m sure get a reasonable amount of game time in what is going to be a very strange season.

Anyway, if he does go, he owes us nothing. Been a very good player for our club.

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11 Sep 2020 08:54:36
I think we'll need him. The season could become very disjointed in terms of CV, more regular fixtures and multiple competitions.

Usually teams like to work with small squads of 22ish players. I think this season teams will have slightly larger squads of 26.

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11 Sep 2020 09:52:47
Also think he offers something different and special to other options, not least in his link up and hold up play as well as so much experience. Completely different to what Timo W brings as a striker (and often coming in from out wide) plus Tammy still learning imho.

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11 Sep 2020 09:56:23
Girouds staying. With those crazy crosses coming in from Ziyech, he could score a hatful because he thrives off that kind of service.

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11 Sep 2020 06:27:52
Great player and servant to the club Giroud . Absolutely professional and a class act . Ed002 can you confirm if he is to leave.

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea met with Juventus about another matter about 10 days ago but I do not believe that OG was discussed. Whilst he has been considered as one possible Higuain alternative he is certainly not first choice and I am not aware of any agreement to move.}

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11 Sep 2020 12:31:41
Ed002 - If you do not mind me asking, what was the other matter? Which player did it involve?

{Ed002's Note - It is unimportant.}

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08 Sep 2020 22:57:48
Thought I'd share this as seen it on the West Ham page from ed02.

There is a chance the West Ham can get Conor Gallagher on loan next season.

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08 Sep 2020 23:48:02
Potential to help get rice maybe? Although hoped they would take barkley.

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09 Sep 2020 00:44:03
Or maybe just a chance for Gallagher to get some experience in the prem.

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09 Sep 2020 02:35:44
Think it would be safe to assume Rice won’t be joining unless Jorginho and/ or Kante were to leave.

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09 Sep 2020 12:37:22
Palace were interested but can't loan two players from one prem team in one transfer window.
They want Bats more I think.

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10 Sep 2020 06:19:33
i don't see Rice as a DM but could turn into one . alternatively, i don't see him as a CB either.
He is still developing and it all depends on which position the manager plays him.

Similar to Ethan Ampadu.

ED001, what would be your assesment on Rice and how does he compare to EA?

{Ed001's Note - I think Rice is a very good midfielder, not really a holding midfielder, but a very good defensive midfielder. He can play the holding role, but it restricts him too much as one of his key assets is the ability to drive forward at the right moments. Rice has a very good eye for just when to get forward and when to sit back, though a lot of that might just be that he works so well with Soucek and they have a natural partnership there. He can play in defence, but he is not really ideal there, lacks a little aerially, not so good on the turn and is still learning to read the game.

Ampadu is more of centre-back playing in midfield, he naturally sits and holds, making him more suited to the holding role. With his range of passing he should be capable of playmaking from that role, sitting back and spraying passes around. He has the pace and mobility to be more than that though, but he needs to learn how to do so, right now his tendency is to err on the side of caution and sit a little too deep to make the most use of that mobility. Shame he has not grown another couple of inches, then he would be the ideal modern centre-back.}

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10 Sep 2020 10:30:51
Wow ED001, Great insight.
dont see a role for Rice at chelsea right now. hard to see chelsea put in the money for Rice and snap him up.

sinve westham are in the PL . i doubt if he wants to move from WH to us knowing that his chances of playing day in and out will be limited.

Cheers.

{Ed001's Note - I think he is one for next summer, a finishing touch to the team. And thank you.}

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10 Sep 2020 12:18:12
So maybe Rice is more of a Kovacic type of player? Big fan of Kovacic but he has to get forward more and score a few goals.

Tomori or Ampadu? Who will be the Chelsea CB of the future?

{Ed001's Note - yes closer to Kovacic I would say.

Tomori, I don't believe Ampadu is seen as having a long term future at CB.}

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10 Sep 2020 12:34:12
Tomori or Ampadu at CB? Ampadu as the holding mid or maybe the feisty Gilmour. Rice or Kovacic as the defensive mid.

We are going into this season with Kante and Jorghino. IF we are playing the ball out from the back, then Jorghino is the player we are most likely going to use to do that this season.

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