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18 Aug 2020 17:51:54
Okay guys hope you’re ready for this (it’s all in the spirit of the crazy Rumours we used to have here back before) . Plus, the page isn’t really active today so thought I’d try and liven it up.

So I was on the Official Chelsea page and there was a quiz on Werner so I decided to take it. Basic trivia stuff but then.

One of the last questions pops up and it reads “Timo was the youngest player to reach 50 appearances in the Bundesliga but who has now overtaken him?! ”

The answer Havertz 👀. They go on to explain “the current Bayer Leverkusen youngster recently overtook our latest signing” (Warning; might be paraphrasing ) . They could have just said “The Bayer Leverkusen youngster or the young German midfielder”. Am I right?! (Say Im right. )

This is a hint it’s almost as clear as when a posters hair dresser whose brothers friend is cousin to a guy that knows a guy who has links, in other words I just more or less confirmed the signing. Rest easy lads it’s happening . 😎 No need to thank me.


1.) 18 Aug 2020 18:24:07
Haha ELI I’ve just done that and think everyone’s saying the same mate. They’re definitely toying with us fans. Apparently we’ve been set a deadline to agree a deal before Leverkusen start pre season on the 28th so let’s hope it’s sorted already 🤞🏻 Think we start pre season on Friday but I’m more concerned there’s no new keeper here yet.

2.) 18 Aug 2020 19:32:38
Havertz is a Chelsea player, he just hasn't been announced.

I would love to know who we will get for defence. My best guess:
Taglliafico + Rice.

3.) 18 Aug 2020 20:15:55
WC28, Ed always warns us off paying too much attention with anything with a time scale on it, with regards to transfers.

As for our keeping problem, after Havertz I think the most important thing would be replacing Kepa and then a LB for me. I believe our centre backs can be coached and though I’d still like to see some one come in to solidify that position a GK and Lb are a most. We all know Alonso is top class in a back three but I don’t think that’s Lakps préfèred system.

4.) 18 Aug 2020 20:58:49
I read somewhere that Marina and Cech want to keep Kepa, because it's hard to sell him with a good price at the moment. That's why they want to bring a cheaper GK to challenge him and also work on him more.

I think with our defending we have a DM problem. We need a good DM, that's why bringing Rice in would be a massive addition. He can cover CB and DM both.
A new LB will be added but the question is who? I Taglliafico is a better option. I was all for Chilwell, but I guess we have stepped away from that deal. He is just too expensive at the moment.

5.) 19 Aug 2020 08:28:13
I don't think we need a DM, we have one of the best in the world, just need to keep him fit. Plus there are a couple to bleed into that position in Gilmour and Ampadu, who plays well there for Wales. Would love to see Rice come in a played at CB.

If we are going to get a cheap GK to challenge Kepa, I think Romero from Man U would be a great shout. He has always looked good whenever I've seen him play and has knowledge of the EPL.



29 Jul 2020 22:45:04
Apparently Havertz would feature for Leverkusen in the Europa league. Things not looking as certain as we all hoped. Not going to get ahead of myself with this one for all we know it’s all noise like Ed002 said.

Also, Ed002 hasn’t given any positive update on this so I don’t think he is close to signing for the club. 😬.


1.) 29 Jul 2020 22:53:10
Eli it's a big money move, stuff like this takes time. The club wouldn't go through what they have if they didn't feel an agreement wouldn't be reached. However Any updates from any of the Ed's would be appreciated though, if not then no worries!

{Ed018's Note - just have a little patience with this one. I think everything will turn out fine}

2.) 29 Jul 2020 23:19:01
Thanks ed! Hope you are well?

Do you feel confident about this pulling through then? (Won't take it as gospel but just your own opinion haha)

{Ed018's Note - I’m well. I think it’ll get completed in due time}

3.) 29 Jul 2020 23:27:46
Totally agree Mc1993 and Ed018, I personally believe Havertz will be à Chelsea player come the 5th of October, but I for one have gotten ahead of myself already teasing my brothers on how our attack of Werner, Pulisic, Ziyech, Mount and Kai is going to wreck Europe next season.

Just perhaps giving myself a reality check that nothing is set in stone YET!

4.) 29 Jul 2020 23:42:21
I completely agree, I think as fans we tend to get ahead of ourselves! Hopefully in due course this gets completed.

5.) 30 Jul 2020 00:04:20
Well right now Leverkusen seem adamant on the fee of 100m euros.

Chelsea are obviously trying to lower that fee and the reported 80m euros isn't far off.

I think given that Havertz is pushing for the deal makes it more difficult for Bayer to persist on 100m euros and I'm sure they will accept a lower fee. I don't think we would have gone this far with the player if we didn't think it could happen. let's not forget Havertz will be on his final year of contact next summer.

PS: out of curiosity how do you know the media reports are even true? This deal seems to have gone quiet and are these journalists making stuff up because its gone quiet.

6.) 30 Jul 2020 00:13:01
Very true CFCShak, like Ed's have said in the past it could just be all noise.

7.) 30 Jul 2020 00:24:06
ELI your not the only one because there are big fan accounts on Twitter taking the mic with the Havertz deal and already disputing with rival fans on how we have the best attack despite not signing the player 😐

It will be a reality check for many including myself if it doesn't happen.

{Ed018's Note - be patient}

8.) 30 Jul 2020 09:33:13
The season has even finished yet! We still have 2 matches to play! There is no rush!

Want, want, want - why do people demand signings be confirmed ASAP. Let’s concentrate on FA Cup Final and Game against Bayern first. Then let’s go from there.

We’ve got until October to do a deal with players.

Just relax, enjoy life and celebrate when it’s all confirmed officially.

9.) 30 Jul 2020 15:56:30
I am glad that Havertz is staying to play in the Europa for BL - it shows commitment. Tbh, I was disappointed that Werner didn't stay to play in the CL.

Imagine if we had been selling Hazard this summer and he had decided to leave while we still had European commitments - we'd be livid with him.

10.) 30 Jul 2020 19:32:01
Personally speaking I can't see how Hazard would have ever done that to us. He would have drained every ounce of sweat for the shirt before he left. LEGEND.



14 Jul 2020 16:04:12
Just a little info: Like Ed002 said Havertz moving doesn’t depend on champions league football, same thing has been echoed by BBC, a little snippet of Ed002 calling things before the press so let’s just appreciate his intel. (Shout out to Olive as well 👀) .

That said I still want 3rd, finishing above united.


1.) 14 Jul 2020 16:57:47
I think United will take 3rd. Our fixtures really aren't easy. If we manage to get our act together tonight and beat Norwich we should be close to top 4. Can't see Leicester beating both Sheffield and Spurs. And then they have United after.

2.) 14 Jul 2020 17:20:49
I think three points tonight may well be enough to see us into next seasons Champions League.


3.) 14 Jul 2020 17:26:06
I agree with Jackson and expect United to finish 3rd because of easier fixtures and string of more solid performances from a generally more experienced/ deeper squad than ours. Kante injury worrying, and would prefer he was rested for FA Cup semis that rushed back a couple of days early only to break down again.

I think Leicester will drop some more points, but we just have to win tonight with LFC and Wolves to come (leave aside the United semi-final this weekend, which may make those two games that much harder, especially if we pick up more injuries) .

4.) 14 Jul 2020 22:43:52
Ed2, in relation to the Havertz transfer, has the player indicated to Chelsea that he would like to play for them or is he yet to make a decision. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - You mean did he wink. You need to get out of the mindset of expecting blow by blow updates.}

5.) 14 Jul 2020 23:16:23
He is joining Shak.

6.) 14 Jul 2020 23:10:06
Fair enough ed2. You hear so much stuff and it get to a point you don't know what to believe. I've heard he wants to play for Chelsea and I've also heard his not sure and hasn't made a decision yet.

{Ed002's Note - It is all just noise.}

7.) 14 Jul 2020 23:46:00
You seem very sure Tom. Have you heard anything or is it just a punt?

8.) 15 Jul 2020 00:28:20
I think your right there Ed. It would appear to be just noise.

As far as I'm aware I don't think the clubs have even communicated formally yet. I think will just wait and see what happens in the next few weeks.



05 Jul 2020 10:50:24
Hey Ed002,

I understand you don’t want to talk about the defense but would it be possible to give us an update on midfield and attack options like you did on the Liverpool page when you have time?!

As always thank you for your help.


{Ed002's Note - I have explained before about the forwards and two have already agreed their moves. I have explained all about the situation with others such as Havertz and Sancho. There is nothing new to say.}



16 Jun 2020 19:22:04
Ed hope you don’t mind me posting this on here just info for the lads.

On the united page Ed states that « as it stands there is a chance Havertz goes to Bayern ».
Obviously as we know things change in the transfer market, Just don’t think we should get ahead of ourselves with Havertz, I for one would have loved him but Bayern do have a great pull on German players so I think we shouldn’t expect much on this one.

Plus we have already signed two very good players.


1.) 16 Jun 2020 23:03:23
Dont see how they can afford sane and havertz plus they want a rb aswell.

{Ed002's Note - So what issue with their finances you see as an issue for them?}

2.) 16 Jun 2020 23:19:02
Sorry ed002 i don't get the question?

{Ed002's Note - You are commenting on the finances of Bayern Munich - I want to understand your point.}

3.) 16 Jun 2020 23:25:05
Ed002 just from reports and owners words that they don't want to spend huge money during these times.

{Ed002's Note - Their “owners” - that is a wow.}

4.) 16 Jun 2020 23:58:52
Ed sorry i meant heinz rummenigge, he said, so do you think they are willing to pay the €100m asking price?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed. I have explained the situation that Chelsea are looking at a more creative solution if they can.}

5.) 17 Jun 2020 00:39:53
I see i guess you still can't say what creative solution?

{Ed002's Note - Not worth the grief.}

6.) 17 Jun 2020 03:57:09
Thanks ed002 for explaining the situation.

For me the transfer market now is pushed to the back burner . so happy the pl is back.

Let the Chelsea management work this KH deal while we watch our way to consolidate the 4th spot.

with the transfer market running simultaneously with league games . all this speculation would surely impact the players . Unfortunate.

7.) 17 Jun 2020 06:56:47
Good Morning Ed002. Do Bayer Leverkusen have any Chelsea players in mind that they may consider including in any potential deal?

8.) 17 Jun 2020 08:53:33
Are Leverkusen open to a creative solution?

9.) 17 Jun 2020 13:36:51
Thats a shame, thanks for answering ed.




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22 Aug 2020 20:11:35
The sooner we get Kai and Chilwell sorted out the better. By next week I hope they are announced so they can get to together with the team who return for pre season training. (Chilwell is currently injured) but I say this mostly for Kai, he needs to settle in and get to know the lads. He is still only 21 and obviously he might need some time to adapt and gel with his new teammates (also read somewhere that he wouldn’t want to go to train with Leverkusen if he is likely leaving) .

I fear there won’t be a lot of time for the team to find their feet seeing as we might have 5 newbies in the 11. (Which is A lot) .




22 Aug 2020 11:00:19
Hey Ed001 mate, hope you’re doing okay this fine Saturday morning or late afternoon, or evening depending where you are.

So how do you see Chelsea’s window so far wit he the impending signings of Chilwell and Havertz?! Also, do you think Thiago Silva would be a good stop gap?! I know he has quality and I wouldn’t mind but the premier league is definitely not the league you’d expect a 36 year old Cb to expect to take it easy. And as for our GK crisis do you have any idea how the club are currently looking to fix that?! Cheers for your thoughts as usual, always appreciated.


{Ed001's Note - it really depends on how Frank intends to play. A back 3 with Silva would be very good, it covers for his lack of pace, while allowing him to use his ability on the ball to bring it out of defence when possible. It also would provide cover for Chilwell's very lax defending. In a back 4, I would fear for Silva as he is weak under physical pressure, and has been known to bottle a battle such as he would face in England. In a 3, he would be the spare man, so not being battered by the likes of Wood when you face Burnley, for example.

As for Havertz, he is a brilliant player and will be a good signing.

You are still looking for a keeper, which is the key priority. If you don't get one, then I would still worry about you next season, but I fully expect one to be signed.}



21 Aug 2020 19:48:27
It’s looking like Chilwell then. We move, once he wears the Chelsea blue he is the best Lv in England till he proves otherwise.

Clean slate, still young, good attacking threat, room to learn defensively. Lamps pull power at work.

Now let’s wrap Havertz up and focus on a GK .

Come on you blues.




17 Aug 2020 10:21:37
Do you all see what’s happened to Maguire, hyped by the British press, sold for 80million by Leicester only for them to go buy a better defender for a quarter of the price to replace him. That’s how I fear it’s going to be for Chilwell.

All I keep hearing on here is “it’s not our money, so we shouldn’t care” “Because Chilwell is English that’s why fans don’t want him, if his name was Chilweldinho (copyrighted btw) we would be all over him. ” . “Chilwell can improve”. None of those sound like good reasons why a club in dire need of quality upgrade in said position should invest as much, especially when there are clearly other options.

Again, if we do get Chilwell he’d have my support like every other player in the team, and if things do work out I’d gladly eat my words but from what I’ve see of him he’s just not really an upgrade on what we have is he?! I’d rather Maatsen be given a shot if I’m being honest.


1.) 17 Aug 2020 10:41:40
ELI, I’m sure I’m the same as most posters and fans, I couldn’t care if he came from Pakistan or Peckham.

The money is a financial for the club to be worried about. Only time will tell if he is good value.

I assume the club will have looked at all the options and if they choose Chilwell then that’s ok with me!

2.) 17 Aug 2020 10:55:18
I get your point and I agree.
I was rooting for us getting Chilwell but I just don't think we are going to get him and the reported rumours are not true.
I would be happy with him but, I think Taglliafico is a better short term option.
Best option: Taglliafico + Jamal Lewis, Maatsen goes on loan, we sell Alonso and Emerson in this window. Not very realistic I know, but it's good business.

3.) 17 Aug 2020 11:30:49
I think we are getting Chilwell Ashk.

I think it’s going to be done this week.

4.) 17 Aug 2020 12:48:58
Why should we always go for players - short term? Makes no sense.

5.) 17 Aug 2020 13:59:05
Because we have Maatsen, Adam and he seems to be a good player.

It would be ok if we got Chilwell, but I feel it won't happen, at least not with the prices that are going around.

6.) 17 Aug 2020 20:13:23
Sell Emerson - keep Alonso, buy Chilwell, loan Maatsen.
Sell Emerson, Sell Alonso, buy Chilwell, keep Maatsen.

7.) 18 Aug 2020 07:15:12
I’d do the bottom one Adam if we get a good bid for Alonso too it might be the last window to get a good fee. Azpi can also play LB.



10 Aug 2020 23:33:40
So basically, everyone is like « yeah KH scored a goal but his work rate was shocking ». Would you have preferred he ran himself to the ground and went into 50/ 50 challenges and got injured?! Im sure Leverkusen fans would have wanted that, they would want their star player to be at his best and give everything but obviously not us, at least not if we want to sign him.

No matter who the player is if you’re leaning towards the exit it’s going to be difficult to perhaps go a 100%. I agree he is still a Leverkusen player and they have every right to want him to finish the season but unfortunately he is but human and at the back of his mind he wouldn’t want to get hurt it’s a shame as I’m certain there is a part of him that would have wanted to do a « hazard » and win the EL before leaving but the placement of the competition and the season as a whole made things difficult, with the Euros next summer he would want to play in the champions league, he seems sold on Lamps vision and the Chelsea vision and what I saw from him was his usual brilliant floating through the game and nice touches but he shied away from physical duels to prevent any injuries.

I thought he had a decent game considering all that and I certainly wouldn’t be judging him off this game (more so that he has 17 odd goals and 11 or so assists) . Let’s put things into context here.


1.) 11 Aug 2020 00:51:11
Good post, the thing is, Havertz is pretty much like that most games. I think a lot of people expect him to be this guy who is constantly running for the team, and they will be disappointed. This guy glides through the game effortlessly and always seems to be in the right position at the right time. Whether that's to make a challenge, receive the ball or like tonight, be able to give an receive the ball to finish with his weaker foot. The guy has it all.

18 goals and 9 assists this season from a variety of positions across the midfield and attack. I don't think our midfield got 18 goals this season combined and il be honest I don't want just another midfielder coming into the team who has high work rate but zero end product, we have kovacic who can run and dribble but can't shoot or assist, Kante who can run for days an tackle, no end product though, we have Barkley who has a engine on him, mount too who can run an pop up with a goal and assist then an there and finally we have jorginio who tries to run and can pass the ball around in non threatening positions. We need attacking threat from our midfield.

I just hope that if he comes, people on here won't give him slack because he looks like he doesn't to give much effort when or cba when in reality he is, he is just smart enough to know when the right time is to do it. His football intelligence and Positioning is crazy.

2.) 11 Aug 2020 00:55:19
You could tell even before the game his head is elswhere but he still looked good. His defensive work rate may be a problem though, i've seen a handle of Leverkusen games and eventhough he presses, once the ball's past him rarely do you see him bust a gut to get back. Maybe that's because of tactical reasons but i doubt it. It's an issue i can see occuring with all of Pulisic, Havertz and Ziyech. They'll press but once that press fails their desire to get back and help can be questionable. Pulisic was like that at the start of the season but got better as it went on. Didn't rate Willian all too much but that was one part of his game he was great at.

3.) 11 Aug 2020 07:07:00
Every time I have seen HZ he has actually been pretty good defensively. Just checked Whoscored to see if I have just watched the 5 or so matches where he’s been good and it’s been a coincidence, they say he’s strong defensively too, so that’s good. The other two maybe lol.




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18 Aug 2020 20:15:55
WC28, Ed always warns us off paying too much attention with anything with a time scale on it, with regards to transfers.

As for our keeping problem, after Havertz I think the most important thing would be replacing Kepa and then a LB for me. I believe our centre backs can be coached and though I’d still like to see some one come in to solidify that position a GK and Lb are a most. We all know Alonso is top class in a back three but I don’t think that’s Lakps préfèred system.




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11 Aug 2020 19:27:23
Don’t believe it though, seems too good to be true . Is he reliable this Angelo fella?!




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11 Aug 2020 14:10:45
celeryking, Reguilón is really fast and has great close control. WAGNH did a great write up on him if you’re interested they also touched on his flaws. He looks like the best bet for me but perhaps if a loan is possible with an option to buy even better.




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10 Aug 2020 18:11:23
Great news RJ28P, I’ll take one of Reguilón, Cucurella or Tag (from Ajax) over Chilwell.

We move .




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03 Aug 2020 16:13:02
To be fair, Ed did sort of say that a couple of times on here already. Since then, I’ve been sleeping a whole lot easier, goes without saying things can change but « it should be » done. Good times ahead lads, good times.





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21 Aug 2020 12:30:21
Same Matt, only seen snippets of him but apparently he’s a top defender. Another French Cb to keep an eye on is Jules Kounde, I reckon he’s going to be hot property next summer. The French National team is packed with young centre backs. Bright future for us (French national team) but I’d obviously Iove one of them in the blue of Chelsea’s as well maybe Zouma can turn agent next summer.




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17 Aug 2020 13:24:06
Exactly MDW, haven’t always agreed with you over the years but I can firmly say you and I are on the same page on this one.




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17 Aug 2020 13:07:29
I’m sorry Tom but your analogy is so off, I’d rather not get into it.

My point still stands, irrespective of the price and us as fans having no say in who the club signs, (in all honesty which isn’t the worst thing in the world) but no one here is convinced that he is genuinely an improvement on what we have nor do we see him genuinely making our defense any better, so most of the posts supporting his acquisition have resulted to the money side of things and are unable to say why they back the signing of Chilwell. I perhaps almost want fellow fans to tell me why, I want to be convinced by fellow fans.

That said Would I cry if we don’t sign him? -No definitely not. Lose any sleep?! Not a bit, make me stop supporting the club I’ve supported for two decades not a chance in the world all I’m saying is. “It is not our money” “We fans don’t make the call” is not good enough banter or reason for any fan to claim this is the signing we need or this guy brings us closer to pool or city as we continue or 3 year plan to close the gap.

Now we have Werner, Ziyech and soon Havertz. Those three signings for me is perhaps more than I could have imagined, I mean even on FIFA, I wouldn’t have tried to sign those three in one summer more so the value for money is 5 stars any team in Europe would quake in their boots looking at our flurry of attackers on paper. So perhaps one can argue I should trust the club have done their homework on Chilwell. To be clear, the problem is not the money it is just the fact that there are other players who could offer more, who are clear improvements on what we have. Like I tend to say, what do I know right? Time will tell mind you I hope Chilwell surprises me if we do get him, I’d gladly eat some humble pie.




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17 Aug 2020 12:03:58
So Tom you are happy to buy players for inflated prices when we could have gotten them for cheaper two seasons prior?! And If I understand correctly it’s okay because “it is not our money”. So why are we still struggling to come to terms with signing Drinkwater, Bakayoko etc.

Look at it this way, Bayern got Kimmich, Pavard, Alphonso Davies for less than 30 million. Liverpool got Robertson TAA for less than 15 million, Leicester are about to make 130 odd million from two defenders. Hmmm Ben Arsenal signed Tierney who is a superior left back to Chilwell for half the price. We signed Azpi, Brana, Ashley and Alonso for less than what Chilwell is going to cost and still everyone that is on the banter site who supports this deal can’t come up with a reason why they do other than “it is not our money” and “ Chilwell might improve”. Right!




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17 Aug 2020 10:54:46
Lewis is a better deal, I’ve been singing this for the past two months before he got linked to Liverpool. Watch him become a star for them and selling him for 50 odd million.