Chelsea Rumours Archive July 30 2011

30 Jul 2011 22:01:37
Hi ed,
i play football manager and used to think that is how transfers work like that in real life. But you have said many times, could you explain the stages to me in real life :) thank you, (and no more pastore posts for you aha) {Ed02's Note - Could you remind me toroow when I have more time please.}

30 Jul 2011 22:46:55
I think 3 players and were contenders again for title and champ league, neymar who is lighting quick and skilful and young. Hulk who is built for premier league. Distance shooter, rapid, strong, skilful but is s long shot as his buy out clause, and snijder, let's not worry about his wages. His the creative player we miss, we can make wages even out by drog maybe going and Anelka and malouda, others who could come in but may find it to physical are eriksen, hazard, mata.

30 Jul 2011 22:28:48
joining
Modric - possible
Turan - not a clue
Adam Johnson - quite possible
Pastore - i doubt it
Van der Wiel - havent heard anything

leaving
Anelka - likely
Malouda - possible
Drogba - not likely
Bosingwa - possible but unlikely
Sturridge - not at all likely

30 Jul 2011 18:55:29
Hi Ed, did we not have an interest in Pjanic at one point a few months back? Is that still an option or has he fallen off the radar? {Ed02's Note - There is nothing at present.}

Thats who we need, creative, hamsik 2 take lampards spot perfect

30 Jul 2011 20:01:25
Chelsea will sign James mcarthy from Wigan for 12.9 million

Mike

Source: my mind and the fact my second team is wigan

I would love it tho ..

30 Jul 2011 17:32:36
eds, instead of saying we hide behind anon posts, why not have logins so we can sign up to the forum? {Ed02's Note - Ideally we would like all posts signed. It seems very likely, because of folks like our cretinous friend from earlier who is clearly now trying to spoil the site for everyone, that we will have to figure something out. Clearly the editors are not going to continue to do this if abuse carries on from vegetables like him, hiding behind his constantly changing IP. Obviously it then degrades in to posts not going up regularly and more abuse if any of it slips through. But sadly there are people in the world such as him.}

I presume you mean me {Ed02's Note - Actually no, not you. It is someone else entirely we were referring to.}

30 Jul 2011 16:48:08
are chelsea actually thinking of signing any wingrs

I dont think they will as it seems they only play 433 so players like anelka and sturridge are the more likely type of "wide" players we can expect, if thats the case we need a right wing back who is good at getting forward, wish we hadnt let glen johnson go, apart from his temprament he was a good player

DeBruyne.
Doc {Ed02's Note - The issue over de Bruyne was that he did not want to go out on laon and Chelsea could not offer guaranteed first team football.}

30 Jul 2011 15:46:01
{Ed02's Note - Not at all. Aguero's wages are £152k per week net. There is no way Chelsea or any other club in England would match that. The wages requested for Pastore were 100k euros net - again the club is simply not going to pay that.}

If so, Ed, what is the club willing to pay for the top-top players we need (Aguero, Pastore, etc)? 60k? 80k?

{Ed002's Note - I don't want to get drawn in to discussions about money, but the club will not be paying more then the likes of Torres and Terry get for players like Pastore.}

How will psg make the fifa fair play fulls if there signing people to these huge contracts? There not a big club and there turnover im guessing wont be huge either. {Ed02's Note - I would not get too wrapped up in the FFP rules. By the time they come in to force in three years time PSG will be able to show how they have reduced their spending over a couple of years. It won't be an issue.}

30 Jul 2011 14:51:59
Not sure why everyone seems to be panicking because pastore choose PSG, and Modric choosing to stay at Spurs, we dont need these players who want to bleed money from the club. Have you seen Sturridge & McChrean (spelling) on tour, absolute quality, this is what we need, Josh to spread the ball, Sturridge to run at defenders. Chelsea will splash the cash but wont be held to ransom, so it has to be the right player...Have faith fellow Blues. Ed's - any ideas who the more realistic non-money grabbing players CFC targeting. Thanks

30 Jul 2011 14:41:47
Hi Ed - Gourlay annouced last week sometime there would 2 signings within 10 days, do you feel this is now only goign to be 1, as pastore has gone. Or do you know if there are still 2 almost done deals. Thanks {Ed02's Note - I have said it repeatedly, I would not read too much in to anything you find in iterviews etc..}

30 Jul 2011 13:53:22
hey ed, i just wanna to know is wallace a chelsea player? if not is there a possibilty? {Ed02's Note - Wallace is a Chelsea player in part and will be completely when he turns 18 and makes the move to London next summer.}

30 Jul 2011 13:42:54
With pastore gone looks like it's back to modric

30 Jul 2011 13:33:35
{Ed02's Note - Not at all. Aguero's wages are £152k per week net. There is no way Chelsea or any other club in England would match that. The wages requested for Pastore were 100k euros net - again the club is simply not going to pay that.}

Dear Ed002: This is a good point. I know what is net income and i know Camerons tax rates in comparison to every major European League. I've written aboit it quite a few times. But you are well aware that agents have informed us of their player wage demands before we ever made formal bids, so whats exactly the purpose of bidding for those players?

Now that we have all those bids for Neymar and Modric. Let's assume they get accepted and then what? Tell the lads to play for half of what they would be paid in Spain or Italy. That ain't gonna work mate.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea were informed yesterday morning of the wage demands for Pastore. For Aguero Chelsea offered a package based on performances and on his resale value instead of hard cash.}

30 Jul 2011 13:20:44
im not sure if this has been asked yet, but are there any chelsea officials in Columbia to look at any of the players at the world cup? {Ed02's Note - It has. See an earlier answer.}

30 Jul 2011 12:59:39
at the start of the transfer window we knew who was available and who wanted to leave and yet the first player we bid for was modric. Aguero was available, pastore was available, neymar was available but circumstances changed, falcao was available but we moved too slow.

now we need to hurry up our chances of signing real targets are getting slim and i would hate to see a panic buy and the last few days we need to try and get something finalised for modric or another better playmaker soon. also i would hate to add juan mata too that list of missed out player we may not be able to outbid man city or psg but im pretty sure we can shrug off arsenal.

realistic signings

lukaku (£22m + add ons)
modric (£30m + sturridge loan)
juan mata (£25m)

if possible i would like to see a big push for hulk hese just such a talent and would do well in the prem strong fast full of skill distance shooter

sorry for long rant just dont wanna see us left behind by two mancs {Ed02's Note - You seems to have missed all of the bids that Chelsea made. You also don't seem to understand how the transfer system works. As we have just seen, I suspect you don't understand the term "net" either.}

I doubt many know exactly how the transfer system works sure there are transparent aspects to it but i doubt all is. And yes i do understand the term net and i guess youre referring to wages of aguero pastore etc. I have noticed all the bids im saying im not sure if we put our heaart and soul into going after the targets {Ed02's Note - The point is that Chelsea are not going to pay 100k euros a month net to Pastore. They are not going to be held to ransom.}

I like how people keep referring to Hulk as a great distance shooter, just because it's one of his skill abilities on FIFA.

30 Jul 2011 12:56:55
Ed, I'm not to apsed about us missing out on Pastore. He's obviously got no ambition and belief in his own capabilities. Im just wondering if Chelsea may look to Nasri now, Finally {Ed02's Note - I doubt it. I think there would be other places to look first - Douglas Costa for instance.}

I wouldn't think Chelsea would consider Douglas Costa though would they? I would think he wouldn't fit in very well within the team.

30 Jul 2011 12:37:25
Ed002 we are expected to make another bid for modric next week but if that fails what other playmakers have we looked at the only other obvious ones to me is moutinho avb did say yesterday he wants to bring in players with adam johnson impossible due to citys unwillingness to sell to us the only other wingers that play both sides are hulk and hazard and with you saying the club are not looking at mata anymore it is beyond belief that we are not chasing him edoo2 was the main reason we missed out on pastore because on the wages or the unwillgness of him wanted to move to the premier league? {Ed02's Note - We knew he wasn't keen to move England but Chelsea were not prepared to meet 100k euros net wage demands.}

30 Jul 2011 12:09:08
Ed002: We are becoming a laughing stock in a transfer market. Aguero's wage of 200 000 is beyond Chelsea's financial abilities? Give me a break. We have just signed Torres to 180 K a week? What do we expect chasing all this top talent? That they will play for 60K a week? Paying over 40 million euros in transfer and what do we expect? "Yes sir, playing for Chelsea is my dream, you can pay me anything you want". What is this attitude? If we are to bring top talent we have to still overpay.

We like to think of ourselves as a big club. But frankly we are not Barcelona, Real, or United. We ain't got the luxury of our targets growing up being our fans. Other than Lukaku, maybe. But here again we are playing hardball, until some Malaga comes in and adds those few millions which separates the valuations.

We should either look at the cheaper options and execute them deals, or be prepared to pay those excesive wages. I don't care frankly if got Pastore, but i just hate us looking ridiculous. And we are not in a position to look ridiculous. {Ed02's Note - Not at all. Aguero's wages are £152k per week net. There is no way Chelsea or any other club in England would match that. The wages requested for Pastore were 100k euros net - again the club is simply not going to pay that.}

Ed, Lampard is 33 years old, surely Chelsea could have paid Pastore's wages with Lampard gone? I know you Chelsea fans love Lampard, but he did show signs of slowing down last season. Surely by getting rid of Lampard, Drogba & Anelka you could have afforded to pay Aguero & Pastore their wages?

Just s thought

Sydney!

Well then the clube better prepare for failure. {Ed018's Note - we miss out on 2 players and now we are destined for failure. Cmon have alittle more faith than that}

30 Jul 2011 12:06:38
As it looks like pastore is off to psg, ed are you worried not about the present but more about the future that we can no longer attract top players when competing with other clubs such as man city, barca (and apparently now psg) or do you think its just been a bad summer so far and there is still time? thanks {Ed02's Note - Nope.}

30 Jul 2011 11:52:45
ed a couple of days ago i seen that if we didn't land our primary targets we wouldn't be going for anyone else. my question is, if pastore does indeed go to psg does that mean that modric is the only alternative, or will we go after someone else. also are real madrid any closer to signing neymar or tevez {Ed02's Note - I really don't know what will happen know that Pastore will be at PSG. The club are not going to rush out and buy someone they don't want. I expect they will wait until the team get back to England before doing anything. I don't know what is happening with Tevez, but there has been a push for Neymar to movce to Madrid immediately - which he does not want to do.}

30 Jul 2011 10:59:54
ed do chelsea have people at the u20 worls cup
is de vissier there
and what players r we looking at {Ed02's Note - Chelsea do have people there, including a medical team to do Romeu's medical. de Visser is not currently there.}

R we interested in fernando oof brazil or casemiro {Ed02's Note - Porto's Fernando is of interest.}

Do u think well def get a dmeg mvilla fernando {Ed02's Note - Not definately.}

30 Jul 2011 10:43:42
As we have seen in this transfer window, Chelsea are trying to get creative midfielder but as it looks like Pastore is off to PSG so what are Chelsea going to do now ed's? Possibly go back for Modric? or have we got another target lined up?

Toni Kroos But really i havnt heard of another player that we are in for, i would rather we avoid Modic because he is far far to expensive. If we couldnt match PSG on wages surely we cant match the obscene price tag on Modric

30 Jul 2011 10:22:05
I for one wouldn't be overly bothered if Pastore didn't come. If players really don't want to come to the club unless it's for a ridiculous salary then let them go somewhere else. Don't get me wrong, he is a great talent but what's the point in signin him if he is only gonna stick around for a couple of years then go to Barca or Madrid because his heart never wanted to be in England. I really wish we could bring in some more unknown quality players that will become the Messi's or Aguero's of this world. Sure you have to spend a bit but 45 & 50 odd million for players is ridiculous. Lukaku looks good for £20, he seems to have the build and pace for the prem. And he wants to come. Also with City getting Aguero I think a huge effort to get Mata should be made instead of him going to Arsenal. AVB has implied that in August he will start to splash the cash so let's hope this is the case.
Cheers for the info Ed's. I haven't found another site where anyone with any legitimate insight joins in on discussions or answers questions in the same informal way.

KTBFFH

Trueblue 82.
Rant over

30 Jul 2011 09:13:43
Pastore will sign for Chelsea 100%
After Sergio Aguero signing for Man City the Premiership is seen as the best league in the world and Pastore wants to play for Chelsea...
I for one will be welcoming him with open arms...
Expect to see Bastos, Hulk and Marin to solve our winger crisis and Bosingwa involved in a swap deal for VDW.
Keep the faith Chelsea fans, Roman will not let us down and we will be challeging on all fronts next season

I like your attitude, better than most who write on here :). Would love to see Hulk at the club, i think that would be amazing.

Mate you are in cukoo land

Cuckoo land no... A Chelsea fan with belief in his club Yes
Although if we fail to land Pastore which looks set to be confirmed then I have absolutely no idea where we look next...
I am seriously worried

30 Jul 2011 02:50:33
Ed018, whats giving you reason to think that Pastore is off to PSG? {Ed018's Note - it is speculation, but i'd say PSG bid a bit more and offered much more in wages, and he was never keen on coming to England}

A ANOTHER BITES THE DUST

30 Jul 2011 00:50:06
Eds, so basically like aguero, pastore will prefer double salary and looks lile another player who will be out of reach... Its nice to see our club spend 50 million on torres easily but miss out on someone like aguero and now a future talent pastore.. Its ok.. Maybe we end up with a "used up" player who is in his 30s
But its ok, nothing is confirmed yet but apparently this transfer window has deals being struck mainly becausr of the "personal terms" {Ed018's Note - sure, but i doubt we buy anyone in there 30's. at least i hope not}

Torres isn't costing 200k a week in salary after tax Chelsea cannot afford that sort of wages