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21 Jan 2019 13:35:39
Best of luck to Morata at Atletico. Hope it works out for him and he doesn't come back in the future to haunt us.

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21 Jan 2019 15:20:49
I bet he scores loads there there style will suit him good luck to the fella shame he didn't work out I liked him the bow and arrow celebration will always be a favourite.

21 Jan 2019 12:39:21
Jeez this place has become pretty damn toxic and petty. Too many fans that have had success for far too long and can't cope with the fact that we're in a transition period. The lack of strategic direction and long term planning at a board level has left us in this position but for God sake we're still competing in all comps, have some faith and get behind the team!

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21 Jan 2019 12:44:04
It's sad when I find myself checking the Liverpool and Arsenal page more than the Chelsea one. They have great communities on their page with minimal bickering compared to this one. Come on boys let's all get along, we all love Chelsea don't we? Everyone has their own opinion and let's respect it no matter what.

21 Jan 2019 13:26:12
It’s a banter site and I don’t mind some of the “toxic” comments as long as there is a degree of substance and a suggestion for a cure.

I go onto some of the other teams sites and i have posted on those sites. I’ve also seen posts on those sites that make our posters look like saints.

For the last few weeks we have been playing average football, that has put posters backs up and I guess that’s understandable. It shows that at least the fans have passion!

21 Jan 2019 14:03:32
What comments are toxic exactly? We’ve all got an opinion and we aren’t all going to agree. That’s what’s good right? It’s not like people are getting abusive and personal! It’s a good thing that this page is active even without the info from Ed’s.

21 Jan 2019 15:04:09
Agreed Tom - if you looked at the Arsenal site during Wenger's last 2 or 3 seasons or Liverpool's pre-Klopp, you'd think our site was made up of angels!

21 Jan 2019 15:16:13
We’ve been in a transition from when Jose left first time it’s boring we are not what we were through transfers and taking bad advice.

21 Jan 2019 16:28:25
I assume transition refers refers to continuous playing style changes. Of course, I could be wrong.

21 Jan 2019 17:29:39
Saim let me tell you the Liverpool page can be toxic and numerous times Ed2 has had to take a break from us.

Kepa Arrizabalaga

21 Jan 2019 11:54:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Kepa Arrizabalaga

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21 Jan 2019 12:38:50
Spot on Ed001.I think your view refarding Kepa is good He will most certainly become one of the best. like Cech! . I don't think we overpaid if you look at his age and the keeper that he can and hope will become. World class in a year or two. Prem is not for everyone but most of the Prem keepers are top class. Do you think a youthkeeper should come through for next season as a backup. I do.

{Ed001's Note - I think you are better with experienced back up to work on his game with him. While the rules allow out youth team players can go out on loan for regular game time.

By the way, I wasn't trying to suggest you overpaid, just that people should not judge him on the price as it is partially paying for potential.}

21 Jan 2019 13:14:45
Fans should actually not be concerned when it comes to players and there price. Even there weekly income. Career im sport is limited as a player anyway and should be a competative sport for entertainment. Ed001 you really keep this site entertaining.

{Ed001's Note - thank you mate.}

21 Jan 2019 15:06:06
I think Kepa is our one lighthouse shining bright in a season of stormy weather.

21 Jan 2019 15:24:35
Nice read eduardo cheers.

21 Jan 2019 20:57:40
First player review I've read. Great read. the boy has a LOT of potential. Looking forward to him being number 1 for a good few years!

Liverpool v Crystal Palace Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

21 Jan 2019 09:30:18
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Crystal Palace Match Review - A Liverpool Perspective

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Review Of The Day 21st January 2019

21 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st January 2019

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20 Jan 2019 22:59:58
Since I put a post last night about what needs to change last night two people have copied me with similar posts 🤣🤣 guess I'm not doing too bad considering I'm a negative supporter 🤷🏼‍♂️.

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20 Jan 2019 23:08:21
Lol whatever Frank you have achieved so much.

21 Jan 2019 04:30:34
Salty.

20 Jan 2019 22:15:16
I think it's fair to say that we were all annoyed at some point by players like De Bruyne/ Salah/ Lukaku not getting a fair shake at the club.

We, the fans, say the same thing about our youth players like RLC/ CHO/ Christensen etc.

I have to ask, why are some fans currently so quick to want to sack Sarri? Why aren't you happy to offer time for a new system to embed?

I'll say it again. 4th in the league and still in 3 Cup competitions and people are losing their minds. I can't get my head around it.

We are ahead of where we were last season, with a new manager in his first 6 months in English football. Imagine city sacked Pep after his first year, without backing him in the market to clear out unwanted players.

Time and trust is what is needed.

{Ed0333's Note - as far as I recall there wasn’t a profound clamour for Salah to be kept at the club by fans when you guys loaned/sold Mo Salah. To be fair he wasn’t even half the player he was he is now and nobody could have predicted his meteoric rise and if I’m being completely honest I wasn’t particularly enamoured when we signed him for 40 odd million quid.
As for Sarri like you’re self I don’t understand why people are so up his ass? He guided Napoli to second place twice in three seasons playing swashbuckling football so he has caliber. Just because he’s not won the league straight away like Conte he’s deemed a failure he needs time to implement his ideas. He also didn’t have a proper preseason so that is a massive hindrance. Just concentrate on getting top 4 and I’m sure you guys will be ok next season.

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20 Jan 2019 22:30:35
I suppose, Ed, now, we see fans saying that we got rid of Salah. Annoyed he's doing well for Liverpool. I'm basing him a bit on how fans are about him now.

I'm like you, when he was at the club, he did nothing to show me he was worthy.

{Ed0333's Note - maybe he just needed to grow a beard and his hair long. Maybe he’s like Sampson half the man he is with short hair. You can’t cry over spilt milk mate you guys have Pulisic and he’s potentially an elite level player and a proper Salah-esque superstar.

20 Jan 2019 23:02:35
Salah was awful here let’s be honest albeit not given a proper go. De Bruyne on the other hand I was gutted when he left. But I didn’t see Salah becoming the player he is now when first here.

20 Jan 2019 23:49:39
Salah probably understands German more than he understood Portuguese. Mind u he had the scouse language to comprehend, so fair play to the bloke.

21 Jan 2019 07:13:47
I think the point is getting missed, here.

To simplify, we moan about players not getting time, why are some fans so quick to want Sarri sacked?

21 Jan 2019 11:27:09
Because he insists on playing our only 2 World class players out of position? Because he insists on playing Jorginho when it obviously isn't working? Because he insists on playing Alonso ahead of Emerson? Because he insists on playing Willian and Pedro ahead of CHO? Because if other teams crowd Jorginho, he doesn't have a plan B? Because he doesn't seem to comprehend that possession without creativity is pointless (and boring to watch)?

Because he accuses his players of lack of motivation when one of main roles of management is to motivate the players? Because he hasn't worked out that, if he is going to play Kante in a more advanced position, Kante should be played on the left to cover the defensive frailties of Luiz and Alonso? Because he picks his nose during interviews? All these and many more.

21 Jan 2019 12:30:00
If we played the high press when, like Sarri wants, it wouldn't matter what position Kante played. Basically, he's doing the same job, winning the ball higher up the pitch. Hazard, yes, needs to be out left, and will be when a trusted striker comes in. People p*ss and moan about Giroud and Morata, but p*ss and moan when they don't play, Sarri can't win in that respect! Sarri is being forced to play Haz out of position. Jorghino isn't working, cos the players aren't taking on the system. Remember, up until the Spurs game, we were UNBEATEN, with the system quite obviously working. We all raved about how we played.

Sarri spoke about CHO and how he's progressing. We've had probably 10 youth players called to be next big thing and never amounted to anything at Chelsea. Imaging CHO gets a run of games and plays awful, how will the crowd react? Sarri is protecting him, and rightly so. Alonso, I agree with you.

Lack of motivation, our last 3 managers have complained about this. They can't all be wrong. And further to that, Arsenal is arguably the biggest game of Chelsea season, especially when a win practically knocks them out of the top 4 race. Players should be up for a game like that without needing to be motivated. Luiz has been one of our top performers this season so picking on him is a moot point.

I say, give him his time, to build his squad and system and allow us have a chance of a monopoly on the league like Liverpool in the 70/ 80s and United in the 90s. How did all that come about for them? Because trust and backing was given to long term managers with a long term plan.

21 Jan 2019 15:11:03
dihanio, are you seriously suggesting that Sarri is the new Bill Shankly!? Are you Sarri's son? disarrio?

21 Jan 2019 17:59:32
MDW, if that's what you want to take from that, so be it.

20 Jan 2019 20:55:45
If Hazard leaves in the summer we need to replace him with a marquee signing it's got to be someone like Griezmann. I'd like to see someone like Fekir brought in now and James recalled for Zappacosta and I'd be brave with this line up.

4-2-3-1:

Kepa

James Rüdiger Luiz Emerson

Kanté Ampadu

Hudson-Odoi Fekir Hazard

Higuain

I'm the summer I'd aim for either Chilwell for LB as he's homegrown or Mendy of Lyon. Griezmann for Hazard and another striker maybe Jovic of Frankfurt.

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20 Jan 2019 21:07:50
Love the look of that team king Kante and players in it Chilwell is a great shout although I do feel Emerson deserves a fair go for the spot before we buy someone
Ampadu and Kanté could be class in there together
Cho also deserves some more game time as teams should be done on form and our singers aren’t on form imo.

20 Jan 2019 21:25:22
Cheers mate if Hazard did leave and we could bring Griezmann in or someone like Pepe we could also revert Hudson-Odoi back to the left so we have a balanced team. I think there’s way too many right footers in this squad that’s why we’re so predictable going forward.

20 Jan 2019 21:44:53
James has 1/ 2 season of championship football under his belt. Why oh why do we big these players up so much. We’ve done it with Josh, Tammy, Mount, CHO. Yes James, Mount haven’t had the chance too but can we honestly say they are good enough for a club like us? Josh had a lot of potential and did nothing with it, Tammy shines in Championship, but can he do it week in week out in the prem? Not sure to be honest. Can Chelsea afford to give him a shot at being number 1 - no let’s be honest. Managers don’t have time. If we bought in someone and said right, you’ve got 3 years no matter what, I want you to start playing the academy boys then that’s the ONLY way we are going to see if the boys are good enough as they won’t get a proper shot as managers don’t get enough time and then it’s sacking and new man coming in.

Hope this makes sense lol.

20 Jan 2019 21:52:47
That does Adam and that is what’s needed all we are saying is if our so called first teamers aren’t performing why not throw in a youngster he’ll only sink or swim, teams should be picked on form not on who they are that’s what I’m saying. I completely understand your view mate and it’s completely valid.

20 Jan 2019 21:53:36
Oh be quiet Adam you’re always shouting you’re mouth on here.

20 Jan 2019 22:26:32
Bit rude KK. No idea what your on about shouting my mouth though. It’s true tho, you’re obsessed with us producing the next JT from the academy. Not one youth player who we’ve sold have we gone on to regret. And they don’t get a chance to prove themselves. Yet you want to judge them on 1/ 2 season. 🙄. In the league below 🙄🙄.

20 Jan 2019 22:46:12
Also how do people shout in here? It’s a reading forum isn’t it? Unless everything is in capitals which my replies clearly aren’t. Ahh unless you’re listening to what’s being read as you have sight issues then fair enough, but you may want to turn the volume down, maybe that way you’ll realise I’m not shouting my mouth off. 👍🏼.

20 Jan 2019 23:06:30
I don’t shout for youth one bit. I’m one of the few who thinks Mount is average and I don’t rate Christensen. James, Ampadu and Odoi look good mentally and having that is key to make it at world class level. I’m not saying they will be but they’re better than the rest IMO. Azpilicueta is a bang average full back in this system people need to realise this he’s not balanced enough. Brilliant defensively but poor offensively. Even though it’s the championship Janes has been a beast. The championship is a physical league that’s why Mounts been poor. James and Ampadu look like players who leave it all on the pitch and that’s what we’re missing. Not ladyboys like Jorginho and Willian.

20 Jan 2019 23:10:14
You’ve always got to laugh at someone’s post get some respect. There’s to many players in this side who think they’re ten times the player they are. Sarri needs to be brutal like Pep was he got rid of Hart, Zabaleta and Yaya to move forward. Look at City now. Sarri should do the same but he’s being too stubborn when he’s got better players on the bench and I’m worried it’ll end up like Scolari and he ten times the squad we’ve got now. Azpi, Alonso, Willian and Jorginho need to be scarified or benched. How many shocking games does it take to drop a player?

21 Jan 2019 07:19:42
Let’s just give you the managers job, scouts job, recruitment job! 🙄. Best to 🤐 rather then respond to you as will only end in tears.

20 Jan 2019 16:45:04
Kepa
Ferland Mendy rudiger Christensen Azpi
Ndombele kante
Hazard fekir CHO / Pulisic
Higuain

4231, midfielders who can play out and break forward but will be tough and hard to get by. Fekir as the 10, creative and scores and could swap with hazard and Pulisic, Ferland Mendy good LB, going for a young French connection, realistic and affordable, also could have Reece james cover, Loftus-Cheek could be used in the no10 role ( not my choice but a fan favourite ) linked to coutinho but high price but either one would suit the role,

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20 Jan 2019 17:09:29
That’s actually a very good team plus wouldn’t cost that muc. We don’t need Ndombele however, we have RLC, Jorhinho though I’m not his biggest fan I think he’ll be decent beside the best central midfielder in the world beside him maybe Kovacic beside Kante would be good too.

Other than that, Good shout.

20 Jan 2019 17:33:32
Azpilicueta isn’t the answer going forward he can’t attack. Reece James deserves a shot. N’Dombele is class but I actually think Ampadu should play next to Kanté the lads a young leader which we lack. I agree about the rest though with Hazard back to the left and someone like Fekir in we’d be playing to our best players strengths again.

20 Jan 2019 17:36:22
I also doubt Lyon will let us sign 3 of there most important players 🙄 Fekir would be great for now.

20 Jan 2019 21:24:16
If hazard did leave I’d invest the whole lot into Insigne, brilliant player. And good goalscorer.

20 Jan 2019 21:31:13
He’s a great shout just think we have that too many right footers that’s why we’re predictable going forward always passing to the left. It’s be Griezmann or more realistically Pepe for me.

20 Jan 2019 22:02:19
Pepe should be a target now but think he plays on right, and we have CHO Pulisic For next year, Memphis depay? Sticking with my theme of taking over Lyon? Lol.

20 Jan 2019 23:17:29
Yeah he does play on right but we could move CHO to the left where he’s best. Then we’d probably have next year CHO and Pedro for the LW and Pepe and Pulisic for the RW. Really need a left footed winger I think.

20 Jan 2019 14:26:50
We have to support Sarri as we cannot go through many more managers at the rate we do. However, he is coming across as completely intransigent with only one way of playing and granted he may not have the players he wants to play his style, he has to make good with what he currently has and he is not. Already, the players are to blame when his fixation with his set up and substitutions are clearly not working and sad to say his obsession with Jorghino may well cost him and the team; Jorghino is not good enough for us and the Premiership is a bridge too far. Granted you need time to adjust but the amount of ball he has had and it is half way through the season and not one assist and the tempo he sets is almost static. Sarri-ball is a myth, it is possession football which Guardiola employs and whilst they have an end product we do not; to date I see nothing special in Sarri at all.
Hazard is playing like a man with the weight of the crowds expectation on his shoulders and when it is clear that we are not working he is disappearing from the game and unless we produce something out of the hat he will leave in the summer. I would drop Jorghino, bring Kante back to where he belongs and as much as he irritates me, give Loftus-Cheek a chance in the middle with Kovacic (personally I would not sign him at the end of the season, we could do better with goal potential) on the left. I have to agree with others, time to drop/ rest Alonso and give Emerson a run, he's quick, crosses well, runs with the ball nicely and most of all he gets back into defensive position better than Alonso. We all know a target man is essential and on the assumption Higuian is coming put Hazard on the left where he wants to be and rotate Hudson-Odoi with Pedro for pace. We all know what happens at the club when managers starting criticising players to the extent Sarri did yesterday, we go backwards fast.

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20 Jan 2019 16:34:16
Simply compare pep and Klopps first seasons and I think 4th on the last day with that city squad and Klopp I think was 7th or 8th, I agree he needs time, and his players. On the other hand. Emerson could get a chance, it’s good his shown faith in a struggling player but gone on long enough and also will he except that jorginho isn’t cut out for this league? He needs a few windows and we can judge him, Sao notes everything he said was bang on yesterday, but will need to take some responsibility, that arsenal side conceded 5 to Liverpool, lost to West Ham and we had 1 shot on target,

20 Jan 2019 16:50:19
I agree with a lot of what your saying but criticising the players is correct. It’s about time the players took some responsibility for the awful performances of late. Regarding pep and city let’s not forget city were already a really strong team and he was as given 2-3 transfer windows and as far as I know was backed 100% to purchase players that he wanted not who the board decide. It’s quite simple really purchase players the manager picks as he knows they suit the way he wishes to play (it also helps when you spend half a billion in two years) . When sarri joined we were a team lacking in confidence and unhappy at playing a certain brand of football. We also had a World Cup and certain players who did not want to be here. Overall we are where I would expect us to be but we desperately have to give the manager 100% control for once. We know sarri likes attacking football which is what the fans and the owner want to see so back him, give him the players he wants and stop trying to put square pegs in round holes. A slight concern is how willian and alonso keep starting even though performances haven’t been great. We desperately need to give CHO game time, he has the potential to be a huge star and if we sell him now we will only be back in for him in 5 years for £150m as this seems to be the Chelsea way. Let’s not make the same mistakes as we have with de bruyne, salah, Lukaku etc.

20 Jan 2019 17:39:02
Are two best players are playing out of position and you want to blame them manager every time doesn’t no what to do.

20 Jan 2019 17:39:26
Difference between pep and Sarri is pep knows a good player when he sees one. If he was manager of this side he’d have dropped Willian and Alonso a long time ago.

21 Jan 2019 01:29:30
Difference between Sarri and Pep is Pep rejected us because we needed a squad overhaul that he wasn't guaranteed to get (amongst other things) . Cut it whatever way you like we're a poisoned chalice for managers and they're setup to fail before they begin. So Sarri plays youth and drops Willian and Alonso, watch the player revolt ending in him getting sacked for losing the locker room, Willian did it with Conte, Hazard with Mourinho. It's got to stop, we need a squad overhaul it's as simple as that but the board have had soo much change and no lack of long term direction that we're now stuck with an aging squad that requires significant investment and a board that's hesitant to do it. It will happen but it will take time, this team has the foundations of being great but is still a far cry away from being great and a far cry away from past Chelsea teams. Patience!

 


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