Chelsea Banter Archive July 08 2017

 

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08 Jul 2017 22:47:37
Ed002's response to Bakayoko question on Utd page seriously worries me. If we lose this deal then Conte will resign and I won't blame him. As champions, we need to strengthen, not stunt. And Emenalo/ Granovskia and whoever else was involved in the deal should be removed immediately- get someone competent in.

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08 Jul 2017 23:02:22
Why does it worry you? Eds quote. Ed002's Note - Bakayoko's future right now is clear - so no. If that were to change then perhaps. }

To me that sounds like he's about to sign for us.

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08 Jul 2017 23:06:56
If that were to change. it sounds very possible.

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08 Jul 2017 23:12:16
There is nothing Ed said in that entry that is worrying. I took it in a positive way.

But there is nothing to suggest a hijack isn't possible. Chelsea are faffing around too much trying to broker the best deals. Another situation like Lukaku would be bad and even more painful if we were to lose Bakayoko or Sandro. If they were to lose them to rivals then I think it would spells the end of Conte and I wouldn't blame him.

Hopefully we can wrap up Bakayoko, Rudiger and Alex Sandro as soon as possible. Hopefully that could ease the tension at the club.

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09 Jul 2017 07:21:46
You're reading too much into ed002 comments.

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09 Jul 2017 09:44:34
United are making Chelsea their bitch in the transfer market :-P The lineup we'll put out for the first PL game will probably be hilariously similar to the one we had to put out every week last season. Or maybe we'll buy some amazingly average players instead of giving our young talents a chance. Looking forward to another extremely hard season.

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09 Jul 2017 10:09:49
Just remind me again though how that group of players we "put out " each week did last year. We without a question will have a team next seasons that competes for the title which is all we can ask we have one two out of the last three clearly the club have a decent idea of how to put together competitive teams.

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09 Jul 2017 10:26:02
Im with jackson if we can't get who we want then give the youngsters a chance what do we have to loose least we'd know if they were good enough or not.

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09 Jul 2017 10:58:44
Lukaku rumours started the same way. TBH I don't care are we going to sign Bakayoko or not. Our CF position is much more critical due to Costa situation.

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08 Jul 2017 21:31:22
Lukaku is a waste of space and I fully understand the reservations of some people in the club. He has shown his true colours. All this fibs about wanting to come back etc was a smokescreen of a weak person trying to be someone he will never come even close/ The Drog.

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08 Jul 2017 21:38:03
For all my moaning a ranting if this deal has fallen through because we won't pay his fat greedy agent then good. And if lukaku was a CFC fan then deal would of been made.

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08 Jul 2017 18:14:22
Lukaku arrested in LA - good to know he's matured after missing out on him.

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08 Jul 2017 17:35:14
Why don't we keep Michy around. obviously we are struggling to find a striker at the moment and he's already had a full season with us and knows the system. We've seen a glimpse of what we can do, why don't we give him a run in the first team? I'm not saying we should stop looking, but just an idea.

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08 Jul 2017 18:39:23
I don't believe we will sell him if no striker comes in.

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08 Jul 2017 17:26:57
Watching some of Belotti's goals from last season and he looks very impressive, even if the Serie A defending looks woeful. Uses his body well and times his runs well, attacking crosses with good aggression.

When you look at the way Sandro played for Juve last season, and the type of balls he puts into the box, they could be a very good duo to bring in.

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08 Jul 2017 10:32:55
if you watched lukaku last season and you watched chelsea you could clearly see he's all wrong for us, he scored 26 goals for everton last season and 6 of them were from crosses, as it happens chelsea last season crossed the ball into the box the least in the league, he played on the shoulder of the last man last season, when costa would drop deep and play with hazard and co.

he would also press from the front, and when he dropped deep hazard and pedro would run in behind it worked perfect for us, if we sign lukaku our whole game would change, we don't suit him and he don't suit us, regardless of if we all rate him or not, its a bad choice, morata is similar to costa in his pressing, running the channels and dropping, so our title winning system would be the same, if you didn't watch a lot of chelsea or lukaku last season then i wouldn't expect you to know this, costa scored 22 goals for chelsea last season in all comps 20 in the league, morata scored 20 in all comps in half the playing time how many would he score playing 45 full matches.

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08 Jul 2017 11:52:18
But you expect the opposition not to have figures that out and now change tactics to play against us? Constantly changing tactics leaves the opposition always guessing. Could always mix it up. Could have been Lukaku up top on his own, or play him alongside Batschuayi. With whoever comes in they have to adjust to the speed and physicality of the premiership. Not an easy thing to do. Didier was a master at it. Big strong striker, Costa the same. Morata isn't, neither is Belotti, so out formation would have to change regardless of who comes in!

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08 Jul 2017 13:39:50
Lukaku is a better striker than Morata for sure.
But Morata is better all round player than Lukaku.
If Morata joins Hazard and Pedro will benefit more.

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08 Jul 2017 14:15:17
adam, when we had drogba, we played with more traditional wingers who would put more balls into the box, we gave lampard a free role basically to arive in the box to link with drogba become the second striker at times, our team now years after drogba lampard ect, is much different we play with 2 number 10s hazard and pedro/ willian that's why we don't cross much we are always trying to play through teams defence, with our full backs giving width.

this was a polar opposite to years ago as our full backs wasn't allowed to attack in them days, 2 very different teams and styles, instead of changing 10 other players to adjust to the new strikers style who can't link up. who plays on the shoulder so will restrict hazard and co going in behind him, so makes all the sense in the world to get a like for like aka morata he drops deep, presses, runs the channels and can link the play very very similar to costa.

Anyone wanting lukaku even if they rate him as the best striker just isn't a fit for us. im very happy we won't sign lukrapu, it may have just won us the league again as we will now bring in a better suited striker.

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08 Jul 2017 22:49:28
Well thought out and put Cat. 👏👏👏. I liked that mate and yes maybe you're right. We can't change the way we play just for 1 player.

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08 Jul 2017 09:49:17
I don't understand the Ruben neves transfer to wolves. We were linked to him for some time and for that price is a bargain. There surely is something else to it! Ed18 Ed002 or anyone. Can shed sum light to help me make sense of this It would be greatly appreciated.

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{Ed001's Note - he had a terrible season last year and all the big clubs looking at him lost interest. He has gone to Wolves to revive that interest and his career.}

08 Jul 2017 09:58:46
Fair play to him I say., good attitude.

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08 Jul 2017 10:21:15
Much appreciate for the swift reply Ed. Cheers mate.

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08 Jul 2017 11:08:11
Great attitude? Mate he's gone there because of his agents say so!

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08 Jul 2017 17:23:02
The guy isn't a slave. I'm sure he's able to make his own decision.

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08 Jul 2017 22:51:09
Hahahaha. Just like Lukaku did mate! Lining the fat cats pockets.! Also the other fella that went there from porto, he really really didn't want to leave but had too! Agents have too much power nowadays mate.

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08 Jul 2017 09:24:09
Let's move on from lukaku. Although a good striker he is emotionally weak and he will flop in mu under mourinho. Kane is a dream Belotti a good alternative.

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08 Jul 2017 11:09:07
Live in a dream world mate. He flourish at united and finish top scorer next season. A prolific goal scorer in every season he's played in. Telling you, we missed out on a big big player there.

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08 Jul 2017 18:21:19
Think Costa and Conte might be able to work things out. Costa knows he has to wait to get back to Athletico. Better to stay and play with us. Regarding Lukuka it's a strange one for me. Truth is I don't like losing out to Man Utd. We do need a striker though. Our board need to show they are learned a lesson from when Jose with us. Back our manager please.

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08 Jul 2017 07:24:15
Ed02 or ed18

In your opinion do u see bakayako, rudiger, sandro seals to chelsea cometing successfully.

Cheers in advance.

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{Ed018's Note - I think the first 2 will. Sandro maybe}

08 Jul 2017 09:51:04
Hey ed018, have our plans on striker front changes somewhat, click bait journos having field day linking with every striker in Europe etc, where does our focus go now,

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{Ed018's Note - I'm not aware of any changes as of a few days ago from the list Ed002 provided a month or two ago. That obviously could change if they can't get anyone they are interested in}

08 Jul 2017 10:10:43
Nice one Ed appreciate it, HOPEFULLY We turn to aubamayang ( and he doesn't want China )

Ed018 not based on who were after but in your opinion who would you like Apr suit Chelsea leading the line. ( not including costa )

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{Ed018's Note - it is a shame that it can't work with Costa. He's such a good player but such a prick at times. Other than that it doesn't matter to me. I'd be fine with Morata or Belotti. Aubameyang or Sanchez would be nice to but I don't see those being realisticAfter that being realistic. I don't see anyone out there with the quality that could be available. Lewandowski isn't going anywhere. Cavani isn't the answer. Dembele from Celtic isn't ready yet in my opinion. My biggest fear is ending up with a Llorente or Benteke has our starting forward. It'd be such a step backwards}

08 Jul 2017 10:22:28
Yeah massive worry, remember the days of Peter kenyon when Chelsea should make a big statement in transfer market. Conte cannot be happy with lack of movement, seems like we're missing out on top targets, Sandro van dijk lukaku, huge window coming up,

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08 Jul 2017 09:07:37
just to lighten the mood. i know its only paper talk but hopefully will break a smile lol 😆

Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang to Chelsea: Blues' odds slashed to sign Borussia Dortmund star.

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08 Jul 2017 09:16:13
This is good news, pace to burn good height great finisher good character, but think we're being linked to any and every striker, doesn't help the radio silence ( which I can understand why completely ) from eds, we need putting out our misery lol.

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08 Jul 2017 08:45:50
We've gone from lukaku and Sandro to morata and Danilo,! HAHAHAHAHAH were just a selling club, no ambition to get up there with the big boys,

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08 Jul 2017 09:00:45
United fan here.

What an embarrassing post. You just won the league last year and were in an FA cup final. No ambition?

There are other strikers like Morata, Belotti, Dembele who you could still buy and are potentially better than Lukaku.

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08 Jul 2017 09:03:38
Morata or Boletti will be good. But its just frustrating that we once again losing out on our first choice.
agreed we do make good signing and make a lot of money but fans want to see big names being a big club. if not use our youth talent.

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08 Jul 2017 09:14:03
Think you'll find that winning league and almost fa cup is great but while other teams are improving we are not, as last time we won league we haven't backed it up, morata is a cf not a striker, Jose has worked with morata and still didn't sign him. says if all, belotti is unproven as only had one good season and is likely to cost more than lukaku, dembele is poor mans michy who has no experience in Prem so when we tell costa his not in our plans I expected we improved on him. and deals for Sandro bakyoko rudiger why can't we close a deal, we waiting for someone else to come in so we can say " least we tried " if I'm this fed up wonder how conte will be when we sign lorente and Hernandez to lead the line.

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08 Jul 2017 10:50:13
Matt Martin its weekend today, open a beer and relax. Players will come, players will leave and Chelsea will still be Chelsea. Our job is to support the team and not cry about lack of signings woth window open just for 8th day.

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08 Jul 2017 10:35:05
we are the big boys we won the league and got to the fa cup final, every other teams in england need to improve to get up to our big boy level, we have won 2 leagues in 3 seasons and it would have been 3 if we didn't swap seasons with Leicester, and sandro and danillo play different sides so are probably not connected, now is not the time to panic preseason hasn't even started yet, they get back monday then we have week to get players ready before we jet off, i honestly don't see the problem if chelsea sign a player 3 days after we have flown, they just jump on a private plane and come out to us a few days later, the time for panic is when the transfer window closes on the 2nd of september and we haven't signed anyone that's the time for panic, i think it will be a good transfer window, better than last season.

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08 Jul 2017 12:06:12
LRDlt the beers are open and I'm relaxed, apologises for the rants lol.

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08 Jul 2017 12:27:25
Belotti is of no use to use, he is not any better than Bats who himself is light weight. With Morata we would get a goalscoring footballer who can link up play and is quick. I am very pleased we did not get Lukaku as I do not think he fits in the Conte vision.

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08 Jul 2017 18:25:43
Matt needs some chill.

Morata is equal to if not better than Lukaku for us. (Hazard would bit enjoy Lukaku)

Danilo is a right full back, Sandro left full back.

If we wanted Lukaku that bad we would've made a more decisive move.

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08 Jul 2017 20:30:13
More decisive move. we matched the 75m bid? We thought we were only ones interested and it was sure thing. Sandro deal? That's not happensed after weeks and weeks of talks and agreements and then bakyoko which has been going on for ages now. And rudiger? A clumsy defender / wing back with worst cross rate accuracy in serie A. And a lot of people on here praising morata. his not scored more than 20 league goals in a season. his a CF, yeah great link up play but we need goal scorer, and his had injury problems. and I read he was only a sub because he was at Madrid, . Yes. and juve, and Spain. And when I read how many goals he got in all competitions this year I laugh as he was used in cola Del Rey early games against poor teams, Madrid needed game changer he was behind asemerio rodriguez isco ( bale when fit ) and to finish and to chill I'd like morata. for 45 / 50m but Madrid want 75/ 80 and it's a huge waste.

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08 Jul 2017 08:40:05
Frustrated with people who want a second choice substitute CF as our striker for 80m next season.

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08 Jul 2017 09:00:59
agreed. why when we have Batsman. don't need a second striker.

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08 Jul 2017 08:14:24
At least this should end the circus around Lukaku that was threatening to drag on. Need to be swift now, new striker in by the time we fly off, Morata, Belotti or Mbappe would be great, I'd take Llorente as a third choice different option sort of player, make a take-it-or-leave it offer for Sandro to get the player to force the move, get Danilo in fron Real for RWB/ RB (and can cover at LWB/ LB) - and finally announce Rudiger and Bakayoko!

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08 Jul 2017 08:22:24
if we get Rudiger, Bakayoko, Sandro and someone like Morata id be happy.

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08 Jul 2017 14:21:05
if we get them we will win the league and be amongst the favourites for the champions league, i've never seen such negativity.

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08 Jul 2017 08:11:12
Utd confirm Lukaku. we r useless. He wanted to return . go and get him. no we waited and messed it up.

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08 Jul 2017 05:39:29
Best tweet of the day on the topic :
Rory Jennings on counter bid on Lukaku:

It's like fancying a girl a little bit but not really caring. Then someone else asks her out so you go mental and propose 💍.

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08 Jul 2017 06:55:51
Who ever is responsible for this wants sacking.

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08 Jul 2017 07:47:06
And don't the previous seasons too!

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08 Jul 2017 07:48:52
Class haha.

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07 Jul 2017 19:39:29
Is there any way we could club together and buy Ed002 a box of milk tray or something so we can come in off the naughty step?

Annoying as the questions may be, fundamentally the reason people ask them is because they care about the answer - regardless of how little thought they out into the asking. We all appreciate the answers and info we've got in the past, and it seems a real shame that we're essentially cut off at a time when a lot seems to be going on of interest.

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