Chelsea Banter Archive January 08 2019

 

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08 Jan 2019 23:16:04
so for all the posters how did the game go? unfortunately i had soccer training myself so missed the whole game. how did cho play etc?

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09 Jan 2019 11:34:30
We were tremendously unlucky - beaten by a very dubious VAR decision - completely controlled the game - same problem: possession but no end product. CHO played well - not out of his depth at all - the boy's going to be a beast - praying that he stays / signs new contract - by the way he was hugged by Sarri and Zola when substituted, we are definitely trying to convince him. My one gripe: Alonso - would like to see Emerson given a chance.

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08 Jan 2019 22:31:38
Kane was offside but let's not dwell on another poor offside decision that's gone against us.

Good performance and all to play for in the second leg.

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09 Jan 2019 02:38:22
It's actually ridiculous how unlucky we've been. God knows how many posts we've hit this season, had offside goals ruled out when they were on and now a goal against us being given when he was off. Even with the help of VAR the refs somehow find a way to mess it up. But yes a good performance and the first time i've seen us dominate Spurs in a while. Shame we didn't get the win we deserved.

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09 Jan 2019 11:38:34
Ridiculous VAR decision - I thought supposed to be 'a clear and obvious' mistake by the officials for the decision to be changed - not only was Kane offside but he was going over well before Kappa arrived - it's as though the referees are trying to make VAR look silly so that it won't be introduced.

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08 Jan 2019 22:22:10
Hi lads if you had to choose between hazard and Hudson odoi you could only keep one who would you choose and why?

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08 Jan 2019 22:51:22
Hazard is a Legend and Odoi will be. No need to make a choice!

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09 Jan 2019 00:22:53
Tough one. Hazard.

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09 Jan 2019 10:35:24
How that's a tough one? :D hazard is special player where we can buy similar (if not better) CHO quality player.

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09 Jan 2019 11:39:32
Hudson-Odoi - 18 years old versus 28 years old - simples.

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08 Jan 2019 22:20:17
Guys, c'mon. I've followed this site for years without making an observation or post. being "positive" or "negative" is a massive issue on this site and I'm going to be impartial by speaking with love and passion. We've been toothless for months, we need to spend MASSIVE on a new striker. Hazard looked quality but disinterested with the quality of ball coming in to him in a position he doesn't want to play. Keep the lad happy. Wilson at 50-70 million is probably bad journalism but ridiculous none the less. I like him but drop Morata in with that kind of cash and you get Icardi. In my eyes he's the only creative striking option available to us.

I Love Sarri, give him time, he will get us playing good football and, after investment, we will win things, we always do, regardless of whom is at the helm. We will win more and quicker if he doesn't rely on Jorginho as much. he's one of the most frustrating players to watch and I can see his plus points, but 1-0 down, he can be sacrificed surely?

Dave, by far and away, the most attack minded player alongside Hazard in this game. That's poor for a fullback who's not a wingback by trade.

Peace out.

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08 Jan 2019 22:34:36
Some good and constructive points Caesar, don’t agree with some of them but welcome to the site of football dreams, frustration and sometimes anger!

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08 Jan 2019 22:41:40
Agree with much of what you say, but not that Jorginho is expendable in this system. He played very well today in my opinion. Also, Kante was no less that phenomenal - he seemed to be all over the pitch, and did very, very well offensively. Think his positional change, if he were to continue being used that way for a year or so, will be regarded as no less that a genius move by Sarri.

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08 Jan 2019 22:49:19
Sit on Emil.

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08 Jan 2019 23:13:56
Spot on Emil.

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09 Jan 2019 11:42:11
Glad you corrected that, TomB - thought at first glance that you'd missed out the 'H'!

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08 Jan 2019 22:02:43
Impressed with our performance tonight.

Well done Sarri for getting the tactics so right. I thought we bossed the game.

I suppose people will talk lots about CHO and he had a good game. The thing that surprised me was how much better he looked on the right.

Just for a change with some posters can we just try and be positive and constructive.

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08 Jan 2019 22:25:34
Totally agree Tom. We were the better team!
If we’re constructive about it let’s discuss what needs to change. Obviously all opinions:
1) WE NEED A STRIKER! A blind man can see that!
2) Emerson has to start
3) Kovacic > Barkley
4) Hazard is wasted up front, it just doesn’t work
5) Jorginho doesn’t work. I’m not going to slate the Sarriball system. We’ve sold Fàbregas but I prefer him in the role. Kovacic would also play that role better. If we get Leandro Paredes he starts for me over Jorginho!
6) We miss RLC
7) Keep CHO and make him a first choice winger alongside Hazard. He’s head and shoulders above Willian and Pedro. As far as I’m concerned if CHO stays those 2 are now cover for him and Hazard!

I’m sure I’m going to get slated. I’m trying to be constructive as I feel we played well tonight. However, we’re a few changes away from being a really good side. Sarri needs to open his eyes though and realise some things aren’t working as players either aren’t good enough or don’t suit the league.

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08 Jan 2019 22:32:49
Spot on Tom! Thought Sarri got it right tonight, just needed a “Kane” of our own to score for us!

I think Odoi got crowded out when he went over to the left, would of liked to have seen Giroud on for Willian and tried to get some crosses into him. Tbh I doubt any of Pedro, Willian and Giroud were match with there recent injuries.

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08 Jan 2019 22:39:15
We all see games differently.

I do think Emerson should be given a chance.

I thought Barkley was more effective then Kovacic

I thought Jorginho gave us tempo.

Willian, I’m not sure even I can be constructive.

I’m not a fan of a false 9 but overall I thought Sarri set us very well and I think we bossed the game.

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08 Jan 2019 22:42:43
I’m almost alone on this one Nick but I like Morata and I want to see him in a team that plays to his strengths.

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08 Jan 2019 22:58:45
Also Nick, your posts are in my opinion, very good when you temper your anger but never temper your passion!

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08 Jan 2019 23:06:42
What are his strengths then Tom? Just interested in what you think Morata is good at.
The only strength I think he excels in is his aerial ability both attacking and defending. He wins a lot of headers from defensive corners for us. I personally feel he’s too weak for the prem. he’s mentally weak, let’s fouls get on top of him when decisions go against him. In general don’t think he’s a great finisher. I prefer Batshuayi.
Our problem striker wise is we’ve had 2 Rolls Royce’s in Drogba and Costa leading our line for the past 15 years!

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08 Jan 2019 23:38:16
Im almost alone on this site but in my opinion he is not a Sarri hold up forward and we don’t play to his strengths.

I’ve also said, my guess is he will be leaving and he will be another player we regret losing.

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09 Jan 2019 06:38:10
Haha il defiantly a Chelsea fan and at them moment we have too much dead wood who are not offering anything. We have midfielders who have no end product and a winger in willian who offers nothing, saying a rival player played wel is hardly meaning in a fan, then again we can’t all have our blue tinted glasses on the whole time some actually watch the games see what and where we not performing and say it, dele Ali worked hard and scores goals, I’m gutted we don’t have a midfielder who gets his goals. Doesn’t make me a spurs fan it makes me jealous,

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08 Jan 2019 22:02:38
Shouldn't have lost that game. Lads didn't play badly. Unfortunately we've had a few carry us through that game. Some just aren't good enough.
Our need for a proper striker is so blatantly obvious I don't understand how the club can't see it. Go big or go home, don't care if it costs £100m just get Icardi or another proven finisher. We're 4th without a striker! We've just played Tottenham off the park (still lost though) without a striker. Time for the club to invest their money efficiently and buy a striker that's going to win us silverware! Never mind chucking 30 or 40 million on squad players which is what we do. Cough up and buy a premium striker!

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08 Jan 2019 22:25:41
need Drogba! I feel Costa would be fit perfectly in our current time. shame he is gone.

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08 Jan 2019 22:01:27
Thought we played pretty well and certainly deserved something from this game. Still not convinced even after viewing VAR that Kane onside for their penalty/ goal.

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08 Jan 2019 21:58:26
So toothless bosses the game without having any real good chances really we should not ve worried about midfielders striker should be what the club are focused on.

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08 Jan 2019 21:58:10
Get Willian away from this club, lazy useless and we have better options in CHO, and without a striker we won't be doing anything this year, it's starting to show and take its toll on results, hazard I feel for him. Looked frustrated and spurs took it in turns to kick him until they were booked and then someone else turn, Alonso, just seems slow, and low on confidence maybe, but how we are linked to 2 CM's when we have the biggest problem scoring goals I'll never know. And dele Alli was superb I do have to say. Was everywhere,

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08 Jan 2019 22:21:36
Got your number now Matt, you don't support Chelsea, never have. You support Spurs and enjoy trolling us genuine fans. Mate, you are so sad.

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08 Jan 2019 23:18:59
G8, I do understand your response to Matt but I have NO doubt he is a true BLUE, he just let’s his passion run away with himself.

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08 Jan 2019 21:54:06
We are a striker away from being a very good team. Couldn’t fault a whole lot in tonight’s performance. Buts it’s very obvious we don’t score enough. Hazard is doing everything across the front line. If we can get a striker in who can play the Sarri system then we should be in luck! Good performance and hopefully we can do them at the Bridge! Up the Blues!

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08 Jan 2019 21:49:17
i really do dispise this spurs team . spurs an liverpool are the 2 games that boil my blood.

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08 Jan 2019 23:20:09
I’m not a fan of both teams but it’s just a game Magic.

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08 Jan 2019 20:53:52
Played decent so far, CHO looking lively but we need a striker on. Get Willian off for Giroud and I think we can get something.

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08 Jan 2019 21:04:05
Totally agree Willian ineffective, we have been best team but need striker on, but get Willian off.
As an aside after tonight if odoi wants to go he’s a fool.

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08 Jan 2019 21:35:59
We’re playing ok. Fact is it’s the same players again who just aren’t up to it.
Alonso has been awful. How is Emerson not starting?
Jorginho. £57m for this guy? Useless. I genuinely feel we need this guy out the team ASAP, what is he offering? Can’t remember the last time Jorginho even had a 5/ 10 game?
Barkley. Constantly turns in to trouble and gives the ball away.
Willian. Get rid.
We basically have 3 players the game is revolving round today, Hazard, CHO and Kante. Need a striker on.
Time to break the bank for Icardi and stop messing about, we never learn!

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08 Jan 2019 21:52:54
Thought we played really well obvious to see we’re missing a forward but overall all to play for at the bridge.

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08 Jan 2019 22:16:51
Nick, I think you just watch games with ULTRA negative glasses.

I honestly question how you see a game. Jorginho kept the rhythm of the going.

We bossed the game and Sarri got the tactics spot on.

I value every posters opinion but you just ridiculously negative!

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08 Jan 2019 20:35:36
Hazard central and Willian wide, it's like playing with no striker or winger, no outlet, hazard drifting to help out but not really helping, and to concede the pen by a long ball, willian watching the ball go out while a spurs player runs an extra 15yards and keeps it in. frustrating 35.

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08 Jan 2019 21:05:41
Having seen the VAR replays Kane still looked offside but then I am wearing blue glasses perhaps. Anyway, on this evidence VAR would have easily allowed Morata's 'offside' goal against Southampton surely.

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08 Jan 2019 19:33:48
If the lad wants to go let him go am too very impressed with him and has a great future if he keeps his head down but we wouldn't guarantee De Bruyne Rom Salah playing time at the time they were with us so I don't see us doing it with him as I am guessing that's what he's asking for ( guaranteed playing time ) and yes we should learn from our mistakes but we don't lol there will always be another talent pop through the door no one is bigger than the club good look to him in any decision he makes at least he will not be in premier netting against us.

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08 Jan 2019 19:03:16
CHO starts! need a big game from him and I feel if he does he's a starter from now.

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08 Jan 2019 19:30:58
I’m not sure what picking CHO proves other than he is contracted to Chelsea!

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08 Jan 2019 19:41:10
If I was the club . we are not desperate need for money. I'd reject very bid from Munich then give CHO game time if playing well then see in the summer if he still wishes to move. If he still wants a move away there is no reason why we still wouldn't get around 30 mill.

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08 Jan 2019 19:54:51
On the one hand I’m told Chelsea are now so cheesed off with Bayern, they will not sell CHO to them at any price but on the other hand, Sky Germany saying we have agreed a fee and yet he is playing tonight.

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08 Jan 2019 14:44:56
let's hope CHO is doing this for game time and doesn't want to. leave!

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08 Jan 2019 15:15:54
We will want to buy him back for double just watch.

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08 Jan 2019 14:43:10
if i was sarri id be finding out 1 on 1 with cho do u want to stay or go. if he wants out why bother even pkaying him tonight im really disgusted by the whole thing maybe im just gutted d 1 player i thought will actually make it is out d gap.

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08 Jan 2019 18:33:23
Magic I think your over reacting dude, nothing confirmed yet, just paper talk.

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08 Jan 2019 18:59:49
just frustrated shak i watched him in dublin pre season and was so excited for his future here. but its seemingly more obvious by the minute he doesn't want to stay he woulda come out long ago an said he wants to stay if he really does want to stay do ya not think?

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08 Jan 2019 14:09:00
Latest rumour is Icardi for £100m.
Imagine a front 4 of CHO, Icardi, pulisic with hazard just behind the striker.
Kante and Jorginho breaking up opposition attacks.

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08 Jan 2019 14:36:46
can't imagine CHO he won't be at CFC.

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08 Jan 2019 14:39:04
keep imagining cho wants out.

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08 Jan 2019 14:42:57
I’m not giving up on CHO just yet lads.

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08 Jan 2019 15:06:54
i am unfortunetly tom if he wanted to stay he woulda said by now.

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08 Jan 2019 13:33:08
my question to cho is why leave the best league in the world for a bang average german league. stay here kid prove urself play for the club whos thought u everything u no.

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08 Jan 2019 13:46:13
prob agent and bad advice as usual with theses kids.
what cracks me up he's only just turned 18 and already on the brinks of first team football and that's not good enough.

as much as I don't want him to leave if he's doesn't want to be at cfc then get out my club.
kid has been here since 8 and say it his club well clearly not!

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08 Jan 2019 13:58:38
I agree Magic. If the kid decides to go then his not worthy of Chelsea. Simple.

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08 Jan 2019 14:04:43
so frustrating the 1 players that really has us excited and breaking into our team and he's headin off out d door i just can't understand why hed want to leave a club whos taken him this far and are giving him time with the first team at 18 years of age. sky also reported yesterday he's just as likely to sign a new contract so we don't no til this is done. so frustrated by it all.

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08 Jan 2019 14:47:38
I will be gutted if he goes but life goes on.

Please don’t blame the Chelsea board or management if he goes. The club could do no more than offer him a contract and give him the game time his ability warrants.

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08 Jan 2019 14:47:51
Magic: Need to think carefully as we have just bought Pulisic from that "bang average German league". Is he any better than Hudson-Odoi? Personally I do not think he is, more first team experience but not a permanent fixture in the Borussia team. He is very quick with a very nice touch and he would be ideal in the false 9 position with Hazard back on the left and Odoi on the right but we would need to make that leap of letting inexperienced players learn their trade in the first team. Would we be brave enough?

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08 Jan 2019 15:10:41
my point is pulisic wants to test himself in the best league in the world where as hudson wants to leave? we are brave enough but obviously he wants ready until recently as his defensive work was terrible if some1 is good enough we have to trust d manager plays them and if der not playing there's a reason. the board is not to blame here hudson odoi is making a decision based probably on advice from god knows who . if i was at d club since i was 8 an i was a cfc fan why would u want to leave? for bayern a team going bo where all old players therel be huge pressure on him der when robben an ribery go hel be expected to be the goal scorer etc an hel be ruined if he has a few bad games if he even gets a game over der.

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08 Jan 2019 12:54:15
Maybe what the board should do is get rid of marina and bring in somebody that is actually interested in the club instead of thinking we are a business and maybe promote an academy player every season, look what Liverpool have done with Alexander Arnold he is now there first choice right back and Manchester United with rashford.

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08 Jan 2019 13:27:47
To play week in, week out for a club like Chelsea does not mean that an academy product has to play. He has to be ready, It's not a straight forward process. Patience is needed. There is a lot of pressure out there to perform and you don't want to kill a youngsters confidence. RLC has been blended in nicely. CHO has a great chance should he stay at Chelsea.

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08 Jan 2019 14:05:22
if he wants out why bother even playing him tonight.

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08 Jan 2019 14:12:48
If you think CHO is good enough to be starting week in week out, then you are part of the problem. If CHO thinks he is good enough to be starting week in week out then he has a major problem. He’s a nobody at the moment, just literally turned 18. No experience what so ever and think he deserves more first team football? Hmm, if the kid wants to listen to his agent then go ahead son, leave. But if you want to get your head down and give the manager no reason why not to start you, then do it. Perform week in week out. Do more on the training field, he gave you advice at start of season about defending and tracking back.

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08 Jan 2019 14:40:37
i agree with a lot of wat your saying adam i just can't beleive an 18year old whos been with us since he's 8 wants out without even givin it a proper go.

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08 Jan 2019 15:12:04
Too true. It is a shame he hasn’t played more, but why would a new manager place his trust in his first 6 months into a new career in an untried and untested 17 year old boy? I know I wouldn’t. Zola, Sarri, Merson has this all spot on. He has so much more to learn and should bide his time and be patient. There’s no denying he won’t get the chance because he will. It’s then up to him to grab it with both hands!

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08 Jan 2019 12:45:27
Munich have bid 35mill. now for CHO . apparently that our asking price. Now I'm a bit worried.

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08 Jan 2019 12:48:54
its still down to cho at the end of the day and we can only hope a start tonight might continue to assure him he's best suited for cfc.

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08 Jan 2019 13:38:54
i reckon he is going. big shame. it's more amazing that our wingers in. front of him are 30 + . which the club doesn't like. so more reason to play and keep. him.
it's a mess with our youth progress. we are superb in. buying young talent and making money off them but in terms of actually bringing them through we are hopeless.

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08 Jan 2019 14:20:44
What about this scenario.

CHO has opted to leave because Hazard is staying and doesn’t want to play second fiddle to him and Pulisic?

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08 Jan 2019 14:41:48
who said hel be second fiddle he's has a half a season to establish himself with willy an pedro injured if he's good enough hel do just that if he thinks hel get more game time at bayern he's a dreamer.

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08 Jan 2019 15:13:33
You would think with us looking for a striker, that Sarri will continue using 2 wingers. If hazard signs, he’ll be one and cannot see Pulisic sitting on bench!

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08 Jan 2019 19:52:48
Hazard was 28 this week - I think we should sell - he ain't going to be getting better - we should have sold him for big money last summer - our whole transfer policy is loopy.

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08 Jan 2019 12:38:19
Why all this talk when he isn't good enough, we might as well buy Morata the second what we should be doing is bring back Batshuayi until the rest of the season and in the summer go for Icardi.

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08 Jan 2019 12:32:48
Why don't Chelsea tell CHO that he will feature more regularly at the start of next season because in the summer we should be getting rid of Willian and Pedro.

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08 Jan 2019 11:19:37
Hey ed1 do you rate benzema? Also are we interested do you know? Cheers mate.

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{Ed001's Note - he has ability but he is a complete piece of turd as a person. Horrible man who is not a top goalscorer but more of a high end Heskey. Madrid would love to get rid.}

08 Jan 2019 11:04:52
barella and paredes in talks with chelsea? does that mean wel sell or loan 1 of our other midfielders and fabregas wasnt getting hardly any minutes so 1 of these is his squad replacement but why are we signing 2 midfielders.? ampadu obviously its good for him if cahill goes hel be promoted to back up cb with cristensen.

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08 Jan 2019 10:17:55
Morata to Sevilla is building momentum, with an added rumour that if we can't secure a replacement in the transfer market the deal will still go through with Batshuayi coming back.

Personally I don't rate Morata, this was his first opportunity to be the main striker at a football club and he didn't take it. He has never been prolific and I have doubts if he ever will be. But the biggest problem with Morata right now is that he doesn't appear, from body language etc, to want to be at Chelsea. He could go to a club like Sevilla, prove me wrong, and be prolific. But if he doesn't want to be at this club then it'll never happen for him here. It's right for him to move on.

Would Batshuayi be any better? Probably not given his current form for Valencia. But we're not going to find the answer to our striking woes in January, not unless we're willing to spend an obscene amount of money.

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Review Of The Day 8th January 2019

08 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 8th January 2019

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