Chelsea Banter Archive June 07 2013

07 Jun 2013 22:50:33
Sky Italia etc are saying that Chelsea have made a 49M bid for Cavani (which has/will be rejected) as Napoli want the full 53M. We supposedly offered a player as part of the deal (Not Torres or Ramires).

Daily Mirror say that we made a 25M + Torres bid for him, and that a deal to include Ramires was rejected.

Of course it will get knocked back, he wants the full release clause as any normal manager who wants to keep hold of their star striker would. If Chelsea don't cough the full amount up you can bet City or Real will and reap the benefits and that's a fact. Scott M.

Ed002 already said that we're in a position to talk with the player.

So don't worry about the inconsistency of the media that won't change

In Ed002 we Trust!

Rich {Ed002's Note - Chelsea have been allowed to make a proposal to the player and/or his representatives, although would still need to agree final terms with Napoli.}

Look it is simple. Napoli have put a release clause on Cavani. Forget the film director. If we pay it and the player wants to go then we have Cavani. We should stop dithering. If we think Cavani is the man for us then we cough up £53m. Proitos {Ed002's Note - It is not quite that simple.}

07 Jun 2013 22:25:17
I watched Belgium against Serbia tonight and have a couple of observations,

1. KDB looked really good and was picked ahead of Eden Hazard. His passing and crossing ability stood out. I really hope we keep him.

2. Thibaut Courtois is as good a keeper already as Petr Cech. I think he's ready for our side.

3 Romelu is so physically strong and we should stick with him. He will be as good as Didier.

Studley

Agree but forgot how well Fellaini and Mirallas played-he was better than Hazard.

Hazard is still coming back from injury.

Tk

Hazard is still recovering from a hamstring injury, that's why he didn't start.

Cali

07 Jun 2013 22:12:09
------Czech-----
Azpi--Malanga--cahill--cole
Rami--di Rossi
-------hazard------
Schurrle-------Hulk
--------Cavo----

subs getting plenty of footy
oscar
Itch
Lukaku
Moses
Lamps

Do you guys know any other formation except 4-2-3-1? Barca is playing 4-1-2-2-1 that's 433, MU mostly 442 or 4-4-1-1, PSG 4-4-2, Juventus, Napoli, Lazio and many seria A clubs 3-5-2, Wigan played 3-4-3 and 3-5-2. What the hell is wrong with you.

Mata - Luiz?

Most of those players aren't coming anyway.

-----------Cech---------
Azpi --Luiz--iva--cole
---Romeu---Oscar/rami
Kdb ---mata---hazard
-----cavani------------

Clueless! Luiz? Mata? Deano

Good team, add scurrie to come into the mix, keep Torres and let lukaku go on loan and sign another centre half so luiz can go in midfield of needed. Jack

First post terrible midfield solid but no distribution. Hazard mata Oscar receive the ball too late as it is. U need a def mid next to Oscar or mceachran, players who can pass at a quick tempo.

Mata and Luiz could well be sold to bring a large amount if money in. That's why we are interested in the players in the first post. Jose wants power in his team and hazard wants to play where mata plays. Mata will go to real if they make a sustained effort, luiz to barca. that couldd bring 70 million plus in.

Mata will leave, are you serious?

It makes no sense for someone who's said he wants to win the premier league with Jose to be sold to a managerless team.
Jose wouldn't come back and sell our best player causing him to be unpopular with lots of fans over it.

Lets be realistic

20 goals 36 assists in a season, sod it let's sell him! What a joke, if he goes mourinho will dig himself one almighty hole. And so would the board. Ain't gunna happen. Especially for the touted 25 million. If bale is worth 90 mata has to be at least 70.

07 Jun 2013 21:10:41
Ross Turnbull has been released we can all breathe a sigh of relief that we don't have him in sticks should big pete get injured!

Jamal Blackman or buy a young british GK to play back up and wait for next year until we get Courtois back!

I'm not sure Blackman is ready for first team football just yet.

07 Jun 2013 20:55:40
Ed, would Chelsea sign both Hulk and Schurrle or just one or the other,
thanks in advance.

07 Jun 2013 19:38:53
Am I the only that's kinda worried about Cavanis price? I mean it's half our budget, I think he's to expensive

JM10

We don't know the budget. I suppose you're basing your comment on what Benitez said?

And it will be sooooo worth it for cavani not that interested in any other transfer if we get cavani don't get me wrong we need a Centre back and a holding midfielder but would be just happy with him out and out class act

I am not sure the "budget" you talk about is a real thing, it is s lot more flexible than you seem to think.

When you consider what Monaco's budget should be if your thinking of the FFP Rules then they should be well out of their range with the £115mil spent already on 3 players and what to show for their seasons success? Promotion to Ligue 1 lol that is hardly anything compared to winning a European Cup, Domestic Premier League or Cups nor even Champions League qualification. Chelsea posted big profits for last season, more money to come in from the league/tv rights/sponsors/season tickets/merchandise and players sales. Malouda, Benayoun, Ferreria and Hilario have left the club freeing up some of the wage budget and should others like Torres/Ba/Mikel and possibly JT leaves the club we should be fine. I really do hope we get Cavani, such a complete striker and like I said last summer, he is the perfect replacement for Drogba. He will not only bring his talent to the club but an image potentially massive in merchandise sales. Worth his weight in gold that lad I can tell ya. Scott M.

You think their is 100 million budget because the media say we have. Today it's risen to 110 and now 135. Well spend what we need too. Plus ba and Torres mikel possibly essien reports if jt, it's all money coming in.

I am positive chelsea will receive record levels of income due to sales of players this summer.

07 Jun 2013 17:53:03
hi ed
1
with the daily mail saying that arsenal moving in front of chelsea in the race for fellaini could you confirm whether or not we have tabled a bid for him
2
could you give us the name of the players who we have actually bid on

Adam

07 Jun 2013 19:22:13
Signing Cavani, Hulk and Jovetić probably means that Mourinho will have 4 strikers. Torres&Ba will be sold. All of this indicates JM's intention to play 442 diamond. This is how Chelsea will look like in new long term Mourinho's era:

Cech (Thurbull)

(Cahill) (Luiz)
Ivanovic Terry

(Ivan. ) (Bertrand)
Azpilicueta Cole

(Romeu, Mikel)
Essien

(Ramires) (deBruyne)
Hazard Mata

(Lampard, VanGinkel)
Oscar

(Jovetić) (Lukaku)
Cavani Hulk

Chalobah is a long term replacement for Essien he'll go on loan. Squad players which are not on the list will be sold.
Any comments Ed?

Mourinho has never played '442' diamond'. whatever that is.

I really hope not, don't think the players would fit that formation at all personally.

I don't see Essien as a starter either.

Of course he did! He took CL with Inter playing 4-1-2-1-2 which is so called diamond (442). During his first spell at Chelsea he used 2 formations 442 and 433. If you ever watched Real Madrid playing (not info about formation before match, but what act. was happening on the pitch) he played 41212 with Khedira covering RM, Alonso DM, DiMaria LM and Ozil AM. CR7 was converted to classical striker playing mainly paired with Benzema that how he managed to score more than 160 goals in 3 seasons during Mourinho's spell at Santiago Bernabeu.

442 diamond is called because diamond shape of midfielders it looks like this:
GK

CD CD
RWB LWB
DM

RM LM

AM

ST ST


RWB means right winger back
LWB means left winger back.

Cheers

07 Jun 2013 16:12:36
benayoun, malouda, turnbull, hilario and ferreira have been released. We must be looking at a back up keeper now. Hopefully we'll also get a hulk over summer

We don't need Hulk, he should have come last year. For 35 mil pounds we can find a younger winger with loads of pace and have some left over to put towards Di Rossi or a good young cb.

He has good pace and lots of strength. He's a different animal to what premier league defenders are used to on the wing.

Hulk is exactly what we are looking for on the right wing. He just needs to be loved like he was at Porto.

Sod hulk, we go de bruyne.

07 Jun 2013 15:38:20
Ed I understand if you don't want to answer or believe its complicating matters too much but is Torres involved in the fee which Napoli has agreed to?

Tk {Ed002's Note - I am clearly wasting my time - Why can't people see things for what they are.}

I would take that as a NO, TK!

I'm hearing that he isn't part of the deal but napoli might look at him as cavani's replacement.

He is not! Cavani's transfer will be paid in cash. Chelsea has great offer from Monaco for Torres&Terry.

07 Jun 2013 15:06:09
Goodbye Malouda, Ferriera and Hilario

And turnbull and benayoun

07 Jun 2013 12:08:00
Ed are Real Madrid interested in Mata? {Ed018's Note - not that I know of but they might}

07 Jun 2013 12:51:25
hi ed is there real interest in dzeko proven goalscorer and should be able to get him for a good price? {Ed018's Note - I know of no interest in Dzeko right now}

07 Jun 2013 11:44:00
Ed reports seem to suggest Mario Gomez is off to Man City would that rule out them signing Cavani? {Ed002's Note - I do not have the time or inclination to clarify or confirm everything you read on Twitter or in the Peruvian press every few minutes.}

07 Jun 2013 10:37:54
Galatasaray have enquired about John Obi mikel. Get deal to inside sneijder and we will have lots of quality and depth.

Sneijder
Cavani
Hulk
Shurrle
Lukaku
De bruyne
Van arnolt

That's I'd unbelievable depth to add to what we already have

{Ed002's Note - It is correct that Gala has made an approach to Chelsea regarding John Obi.}

Sign me up ed I'm a reliable source

We will never sign all of those!

3 of them already play for us.

"All of these", Its only 4 signings! Add Di Rossi to make 5. Sell Torres, Ba, Mikel, Bert (Swap and cash for Shaw) and Marin and were sorted!

Squad

GK. Cech, Turnbull, Blackman
DEF. Azpili, Kalas, Ivan, Luiz, Cahill, Terry, Cole, Shaw
MID. Ramires, Romeu, Di Rossi, McEachran, Lampard,
A/MID. Hazard, Moses, Mata Shurrle, Hulk, KDB, Oscar
FW/ST. Cavaini, Lukaku, Hulk/Shurrle

Very good players in all areas.

Better question is who will leave Chelsea?

Torres mikel yossi Marin Ferreira malouda maybe Ba

Sorry, meant Sneijder instead of McEachran. Loan him to a lower league prem club, if he can't make it there he will NOT make it for Chelsea. Shame, as we all had high hopes for him!

It may only be four players but the transfer fees and wages would be through the roof, three of the four play in roughly similar positions, and we already have 5 players who occupy those same positions. that would make a grand total of 8 players to play behind a lone striker. Not going to happen!

Ed002, has John Obi indicated at all he is willing to leave? {Ed002's Note - A wink? A wave you mean?}

With Shurlle, KDB and Moses we don't need Hulk and with the money he would cost we should get a really good young cb or a more dynamic player with pace like Pierre-Emerick Abg who I'm sure can play out wide.

07 Jun 2013 09:19:33
If you believe the hype, and you should never really believe the hype, then our midfield and attack could look something like this (which would be awesome).

----Luiz - Oscar-----

Hulk - Mata - Hazard

------Cavani---------

That being said the same reports linking Cavani and Hulk are saying Mourinho will let Mata go! Like I said, never really believe the hype. The Hulk rumour is being driven by Hulk, and Hulk only, at the moment. The recent upsurge in Cavani rumours were started by quotes from the ever reliable De Laurentiis; I think someone is trying to start a bidding war! As for letting Mata go! If fans were vocally p'd off when Benitez joined let's see how they'd react to our best player leaving, special one or no special one at the club.

That is absolutely frightening. Plus with Jose and his work ethic. League is ours

07 Jun 2013 07:21:24
Witsel, cavani, schurrle, mangala, shaw.

This would be perfect. One can dream.

Hulk instead of schurlle

06 Jun 2013 23:13:56
Ed002 is it true that Man city and Real Madrid both have agreed a fee with Malaga regarding Isco? Or do you still maintain the opinion that no such agreement exists? {Ed002's Note - I don't recall saying "no such agreement exists"?

You have said that nothing had been decided yet. Does that mean that it is indeed true that both teams have an agreement with Malaga? {Ed002's Note - Right, so I didn't say it. These repeated posts about Isco after I have explained the situation are tedious - just take it the MC or RM page.}

07 Jun 2013 08:35:25
Ed - any truth in the rumours surrounding Mata, and Mourinho wanting to sell him? Seems ridiculous given his talents and the fact he's carried us for the past two seasons? Cheers {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}