Chelsea Banter Archive July 06 2017

 

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06 Jul 2017 23:04:20
If we lose out on Morata as well, good chance he stays at RM, who is still out there for us to make an impact with CL this year.

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06 Jul 2017 23:35:30
Belotti?

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07 Jul 2017 07:09:49
According to Ed we haven't done anything regarding Belotti other than scouting. Doesn't seem like a real target for the summer. I keep saying it, it's going to be Moussa Dembele coming in for us.
We had an agreement with Celtic in January, but Dembele didn't want to risk riding the bench at Chelsea. Now with Costa having one foot out the door already, Lukaku joining United (plain horrible) and Morata being too expensive I can see the Dembele deal going through. He's about 5 levels below Lukaku, but I guess we want top 4 to be a real tough challenge again :-P.

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07 Jul 2017 08:25:05
Dembele will not solve any issues for us. he looks OK in a very poor league.

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06 Jul 2017 22:50:35
So looking like Lukaku not going to happen for us i really don't rate Morata think his stats are a bit better then he actually is.

Then again what other strikers are there that we might realistically be able to buy of real top quality?

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06 Jul 2017 23:30:20
Aubemayang is there for the taking. Just fork out some 80mil sum and i believe we have a good chance.

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{Ed018's Note - if it was only that easy}

06 Jul 2017 23:36:12
Belotti mate. Ok we'd have to pay through the nose but needs must and all that. Unless we manage to keep Diego.

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06 Jul 2017 22:12:56
Lukaku' medical already planned in LA, like it or not united have moved very fast.

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06 Jul 2017 22:50:51
Bring back Ron Gourley, this is a repeat of the summer after Jose won the title. Of course we might all be surprised,

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07 Jul 2017 07:08:45
He was shocking. Bring back Peter Kenyon. Now he knew how to close a deal!

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07 Jul 2017 08:33:46
Now Peter Kenyon was the man, he got a target and wrapped it up asap,

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06 Jul 2017 20:26:31
Charly musonda gets the number 17 shirt.

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06 Jul 2017 20:38:06
It seems he will stay at club.

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06 Jul 2017 20:44:07
I'll be extremely happy if he is back up to hazard, Pedro and Willian.

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06 Jul 2017 21:09:01
Would rather Traore to be honest. Think charley is too lightweight for the prem.

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06 Jul 2017 21:17:42
adam think your right in terms of size. but give the kid a chance. a very skillful talented lad. he can learn to defend the ball off Hazard.
and tbh Troare is just a skinny and lightweight.

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06 Jul 2017 21:33:57
Think at the moment he's more suitable to the Spanish League that's all. Or a loan to another Prem or Championship side.

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06 Jul 2017 21:39:13
love to see him given a chance. just hope he can take it.

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06 Jul 2017 21:50:16
Hope so too pal!

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06 Jul 2017 22:29:22
Look at d size of coutinho that is all. size means nothing.

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06 Jul 2017 23:37:46
Coutinho has bulked up mate. As has Firmino. Both look considerably bigger then when they first joined. Charley just looks too lightweight for me at the moment.

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07 Jul 2017 07:11:58
Charly's a bit light, that's true. But he looks "bigger" than before, so it's clear he's been working on it. His balance is amazing also, which helps him overcome his slight build. Mahrez for example is just as lightweight, but he's handled the PL just fine. I think Musonda will adapt just fine.

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07 Jul 2017 08:27:06
Most are correct, give Musonda time and space and he looks good but he is way to fragile for the Premiership.

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06 Jul 2017 18:50:34
Are any of the eds responding.

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{Ed025's Note - of course martin...

06 Jul 2017 19:19:52
Good man / women, what's your take on lukaku united Chelsea situation. I know we go on but events took huge turn.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - move on.}

06 Jul 2017 20:01:36
So what's the deal with Lukaku? Any truth about United having a bid accepted for him?

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06 Jul 2017 21:32:28
Ed has said on the Everton page that he's sceptical any deal has been agreed in full at this time but that he believes one can certainly be sorted out.
With regards to nothing changing with lukaku I assume this is with regards to the members of Chelsea that still have reservations about the deal as he has offended people at Chelsea in the past although I coukd be wrong. Chelsea do have an interest in him but it's a matter of convincing a few people.

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06 Jul 2017 21:35:18
That person was Emanelo. He's the one whose been pushing to get him back to the club. Maybe Conte doesn't want him and now will focus on who the MANAGER wants? Maybe huh Ed002?

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06 Jul 2017 21:40:03
RVD - how long do people need convincing? He was a young kid, probably advised wrongly. Things happen in the past, but that's where it should stay. In the past. Get over it and get on with life.

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06 Jul 2017 22:23:39
Couldn't agree more but we don't know exactly what was done or said. At the end of the day there's little point having a player at the club that doesn't have the full backing of the board or staff.

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06 Jul 2017 23:15:02
Does that mean that there's no deal for Lukaku with Man Utd?

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06 Jul 2017 23:38:19
Nothing agreed or very close to being agreed.

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06 Jul 2017 17:41:59
Get aubamayang and another top class forward, got to pull out finger out as we will start panic buying, and yes I know window just open but other teams acting fast n we are losing targets, our top two striker targets are both unproven in there own leagues let alone prem.

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06 Jul 2017 20:00:23
Aubameyang won't happen. if you read the updates across the various sites, Ed confirmed that the offer from China is the only on the table following PSG breakdown. nobody will be able to match that offer.

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06 Jul 2017 22:00:11
Yeah I know, wishful thinking, hopefully offer from us would be more appealing than money, doubtful thou, morata it is.

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06 Jul 2017 15:11:55
Assuming the links suggesting UTD are close to signing Lukaku are correct and assuming Lukaku is a genuine target for Chelsea but they are going to miss out or move on from attempting to sign Him who would You folks most like Us to pursure and hopefully aquire?

Aubameyang?
Belotti?
Morata?
Someone else.?

Personally all things considered I would be happiest with Aubameyang as I think He's the most accomplished and His game would suit both linking up with the attacking wide players and Our counter attacking style.
He seems stronger than He appears and is decent in the air which is a plus for the Prem to.

All the players are a gamble having never played in England but I think Aubameyang would pose the smallest risk.

Thoughts.

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06 Jul 2017 16:54:42
We'll end up with Moussa Dembele of Celtic, which would be disappointing to say the least. Abraham would've probably done just as well in Scottish League if he played for Celtic. Buying Dembele would be weird, but I do think we'll end up with him.

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06 Jul 2017 17:11:56
I think we're going to struggle my opinion don't see why we still have costa conte doesn't want him he doesn't want to be here we've been slow to react again and others haven't if he's worth75 million and we're not willing to pay then we won't get the others.

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06 Jul 2017 17:13:47
Get a grip boy the window is open only a week.

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06 Jul 2017 17:22:16
I haven't seen anywhere near enough of Dembele to give a fair opinion but I personally would rather keep Michy around rather than splash more money on Dembele.

I think if Costa is off then We need a certain level of player to cone in and step up.

Dembele seems more of a rotation option to Me or possibly a strike partner rather than someone who leads the line.

But again someone who watches more of SPL than Me could perhaps make a case for Moussa.

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06 Jul 2017 17:32:29
all the players would be good for us, i haven't heard of the fourth person though, Aubameyang would suit the league like a duck to water, fast good in the air, strong, good finisher, i do like morata has a good all round game, i haven't seen enough of Belotti, what i have seen he looks good and i would be willing to gamble on him, if it ment not getting lukaku.

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06 Jul 2017 18:12:26
Get a grip who is there that we are willing to pay the money for lukaku is prem tested and we wouldn't pay it so do u think we are going to pay more for a gamble and as we know we've done it before think we learning tho from are mistakes we've missed a great chance and around us are getting stronger it's a great buy for united no gamble great striker proven. It's only just opened yes well done but we are slower than others again.

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06 Jul 2017 18:16:15
That someone else is currently tearing it up in La Liga don't You know. lol.

I feel Aubameyang would be the safest bet in the short term as for Me He's the most complete of the players on the list but there is something about Morata that I think could work for Chelsea.

He is imo a much better footballer than Lukaku and will be better for the likes of Hazard, Willian and Pedro to play off of.
I remember Drogba's first couple of Season's not being the most prolific but He scored important goals and allowed others to play, namely Lamps and We Won back to back Titles to boot.

Maybe Morata could have a similar impact for Us in the here and now.

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06 Jul 2017 14:00:54
So Lukaku to Man utd, is that a blessing or not.
So who is the main striker target now. morata (unproven), or bolletti. Or are we back in for Llorente. interesting.

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06 Jul 2017 14:45:12
Absoloute blessing go get conte the man he truly wants and we all no morata wants chelsea not man u mourinho would ruin him.

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06 Jul 2017 16:07:59
Morata might not score the same goals as Lukaku in a season. But anyone who has seen Morata play will definitely know that he can make space for other players to score.
One thing is sure hazard, Pedro/ Willian will benefit more if Morata joins rather than Lukaku.

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06 Jul 2017 13:57:40
Someone just described lukaku as goal scorer with presence and the first touch of a kerb a hahahah a kerb.

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06 Jul 2017 14:45:26
True story 😉😉.

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06 Jul 2017 15:06:35
The first touch argument is massive hyperbole as Lukaku has gotten a lot better over the years. People will see it next season when he finally gets some top class service in that United team. He'll tear the league a new one.

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06 Jul 2017 16:01:30
He gets top class service with Belgium and has never impressed.

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06 Jul 2017 16:55:29
I'm Belgian, and no, he doesn't get top class service for Belgian national team. Trust me on that one. Our attacking play sucks most of the time, it's really static.

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06 Jul 2017 12:12:25
couple of season he will be sold!
Charlie Colkett has agreed a season-long loan with Vitesse Arnhem.

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06 Jul 2017 13:44:14
don't be so down mate, basically ake is going to start every game and if he becomes top quality we get him back for 10 million more, if he don't turn out top notch we still got 20 million for him win win .

we have first refusal on traore so again if he turns out awesome we can get him back, it would be an expensive loan, if he can't cut it we got 10 million to reinvest in the team, from a player we signed for free, rlc, baker, chalobah all need first team football at the moment none of them are good enough to start every game for us so instead of rotting on the bench or playing reserve football.

they should be loaned for 2 years then see if they are up to it, over the last 2 seasons i bet chalobah hasn't started 12 games between us and napoli, go and let them find there level then see how good that is at the age of 23-24, i think its clever we are letting them go but we still hold all the cards. i think christenson will stay and become a regular he is the only 1 i see as ready,

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06 Jul 2017 14:37:34
Well said cat.

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06 Jul 2017 14:47:10
Something has to fund the new stadiun mate its been quoted here recently wev made over 100 million in last few seasons on players we bearly played 8 times for us this lady roman brought in is a shrewd buisness women were in good hands shes made chelsea a lot of money since arriving not sure what her name or role actually is just remember reading about her.

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06 Jul 2017 15:08:21
Don't sleep on Colkett. He's a very interesting player with a special skillset and style of play. He's a bit in the mould of Modric, which is quite rare. An excellent left foot, outstanding vision, fantastic technique and some good doggedness and defensive workrate.
He might take a couple of years longer to fully develop (as players of his ilk tend to) but he could be one of the best prospects we have.

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06 Jul 2017 11:40:15
nooo i just seen chelsea still in for lukaku, and no utd deal i really really want morata.

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06 Jul 2017 12:46:29
I hear ya i reckon united will sign him this seems like a cute move to spark a bidding war lst jose have him morata will suit us a lot morw i reckon conte will be a lot happier with morata.

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06 Jul 2017 10:21:30
Sky sports reporting Everton agreed 75 mill bid from man Utd.

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06 Jul 2017 10:39:02
if true im happy with that, because i never seen him working for us, he wouldn't be good at linking up with hazard pedro fabregas ect. if we get morata im happy, i know lukaku scores against smaller teams but his all round game is poor, only time will tell but lucky escape in my eyes.

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06 Jul 2017 10:44:18
I agree with this cat and wasn't keen on lukaku ( £100m ) but morata isn't a starter at Madrid and isn't exactly proven, and I know Madrid have superstars, he wasn't a starter st juve either.

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06 Jul 2017 11:08:36
its all opinions matt, but when ever i watched him play for madrid i thought he was very good, his all around game is closer to costa's so wouldn't be a huge change of style for our team, i like his work rate compared to lukaku who has none, he has clever movement pretty good at link up play, is strong enough for the english game, i also think he's a more natural finisher than lukaku, last season he got 20 goals for madrid hardly starting a game, im thinking if he started 45-50 games as the main striker he'd be capable of getting 25-30 goals, i don't care about players not starting for real madrid or barcelona, sanchez didn't start for Barcelona now he is top 3 best in england, james rodriguez was the world cup top scorer and the best player, but can't buy a game at madrid, i tried my best to like lukaku when linked but his all round game is dreadful at big clubs your not just judged on goals, diego costa has only averaged 17 goals a season since coming to chelsea, basically morata is a better fit than lukaku.

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06 Jul 2017 11:29:32
It says Chelsea caught flat footed. I do not think Lukaku was a Conte choice by any stretch of the imagination and money well saved. If it was a choice of him or Morata I would take the latter every day of the week, he is a good all round footballer and would fit in to our line up. With Chelsea back on Monday and then off on pre-season I think we will have a run of announcements which could spark indicators of who the striker is. Griezmann is now saying he is undecided as to what he is doing!

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06 Jul 2017 12:47:58
Lukaku was what i call an upstairs signing conte doesbt want go get conte the players he wants not fellas the board want.

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06 Jul 2017 08:50:36
If chalobah moves to Watford for £5mill I will fully give up on our youth system.

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06 Jul 2017 09:30:49
its unreal ain't it. Chalobah is one of our best youth players. with a lot of experience.

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06 Jul 2017 11:57:53
Buy back clause?

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06 Jul 2017 12:54:46
I've had abuse from my fellow Chelsea fans when I have questioned the clubs use of our best batch of young players that we have had for a very long time. Chalaboa being sold would in MY opinion be madness. We may well look very stupid when these lads are in there national teams at the next world cup.

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06 Jul 2017 14:24:36
I could maybe understand loan to Watford but selling Chalobah is madness.

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06 Jul 2017 16:03:29
It is very disappointing when we have such a talented youth set up that few ever break through and I think there are two issues. Firstly, many just cannot see the difference being great youth players and talented youngsters knocking on the first team door; I think it is attitude with many of them and believing their own hype. Look at the players we have brought through that have made demands to the club! Secondly, the club is at fault, these players need nurturing when stepping up and given good advice and the Lampard's and Terry's of this world would be perfect for such a role. If the older supporter can remember Lampard saying he had to talk to both Lukaku and Sturridge and tell them that they do not decide they are stars, the club and supporters do and of course both were sent packing in time.

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