Chelsea Banter Archive April 04 2012

 

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04 Apr 2012 23:40:34
I believe te problem that the club has is in the midfield department , lamps is starting to fade, we have no true width in the likes of a real winger since we sold robben and duff, Essen seem to be a shadow of the player he was, and Mikel is possible the worse player to wear a Chelsea shirt

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Obversly didn't see the game cos kalou was the worst player by a absolute mile

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04 Apr 2012 23:34:32
Will a new manager be likely to bring in a new set of back room staff? As the players look to have poor fitness n conditioning !

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04 Apr 2012 23:07:54
Agree for reaching champions league final, disagree for winning F.A cup

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04 Apr 2012 23:03:42
Torres couldn't score in a brass house that's been are problem all season , no one scoring upfront , we've got a better midfield than Norwich and grant holt still scores ,so it not about him getting no service , a good striker make goals for himself ,good runs then finish!! Ramires mata lampard sturridge your telling me we don't have a great midfield ?? And yes FT9 I'm waiting for your response and shed end because all you do is say Torres looked good today every week and he works for the team but a striker scores goals for the team !! Kerry Dixon , John spencer, jimmy f hasslebaink, drogba , vialli, mark Hughes , tor Andre flo , and many more then we get robbed for 30 mil sheva and now 50 mil for Torres the man who works for the team, even if we had wingers this geezer has just lost it , it happens to the best of them when you get major injuries I.e joe cole

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Drogba hasnt been scoring upfront all season either has he lost it. No i wouldnt say we have a great midfield at the minute we lack width and quality. What exactly do you want us to do mate, get on the blokes back and slag him off? he plays for Chelsea so il support him, hes improving and working hard so il have faith in him. We just gone through too the CL semi final and the first thing you do is come on here and slag Torres off, 4 or 5 people played worse than him tonight. Dont get how your anti Torres agenda is constructive in any way, the bloke is clearly a talented player who is working hard for the team, he needs our support not criticism

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At least have the decency to sign your post if you wanna have a go at some of the others on here

aL

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First post is absolutely spot on,all the top sides in this division have way better strikers than us,and that is the single reason we arent in with a shout of winning the league,Torres is supposed to be a striker,so all this he works hard crap doesnt hold water,need to move him on and get guys in who know how to score.

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The current top four and teams below us all have main goal scorers..
Utd-rooney
city-aguero
arsenal-van persie
spurs-adebayor/van der vart
newcastle- ba and cisse.
Chelsea-?

Our midfield is one of the worst in the top half of the league and it needs rebuilding but a goal scorer should be top of our list. We cant afford to sit around waiting for torres to come good, we're probaly going to miss out on the top four because we've been doing that all season. Drogba is probaly my favourite ever chelsea player but he can't do it week in week out like he used to. We should be giving sturridge his chance, he wants to be a striker so give him 2 or 3 games up front and see what happens. Who knows he might be the answer and we won't have to fork out another 30 million for cavani or falcao.

CL

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It is of no use criticizing Torres when he tries to score and create chances himself.No striker is going to score when the midfield does not support them, no matter how good you are.Remember Shevchenko was one of the greatest strikers ever,his record speaks for itself.He was technically brilliant and pacy just like Torres.But he never succeed at Chelsea because our style of football did not suit him at all.Our style is built around Drogba ,who plays more or less a power game bullying defenders and scoring.But strikers like Torres,Shevchenko etc are successful in teams that play a sleek passing game and they tear apart defenses with their pace and movement.They were bought so that our playing style improves and we change our power game to more of a passing game passing game,but we have never done that.So we need midfielders who play that kind of a passing game to succeed hence Mata was brought in and we went all out to get Modric,who sadly never arrived.For teams like Norwich and Stoke have their games built around their strikers and hence they are succeeding(long balls ,trows, crosses etc).When you put them in any other team they will definitely struggle.That is why there are specific type of strikers(Holt,Couch etc) for specific teams(Norwich,Stoke etc).Look at David Villa ,Ibramovich who have struggled to adapt to the playing style of Barca. Benzema initially struggled at Madrid.So if we play strikers like Torres, Cavani etc we have to support them with passers like Mata,Modric,Martinez etc not Sturridge , who is a striker and rarely passes,Kalou,Mikel,Lampard etc,all of them do not play a passing game.If we want to play attractive football we have to build the team around such types of players.It is credit to Torres that he is now starting to adapt to our style ,but if we want to get the best out of him ,we have to play those type of midfielders.So fully we will buy well and do even better next season.
roan

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Sorry for some of the spelling,repeating words.
roan

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Your way off mark,of course top class strikers create chances for themselves,take a look at Messi.Ronaldo,even Bale,its called taking defenders on,remember George Best?,Eddie Gray?,Torres has had loads of chances and fluffed em all,to seriously compete,Chelsea need top class strikers.

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Almost all of the names quoted above are wingers or attacking midfielders ,whatever you want to call them,and are probably the best ever and they are once a generation players .They are not out and out strikers despite their phenomenal scoring rate.Strikers who lead the line are very very different from such players.
roan

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Torres never had loads of chances and he has fluffed only three or four clear cut chances that have been created for him through out the season .
roan

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04 Apr 2012 22:55:37
Well not what I was expecting but on the bright side we're in the semis. I sure would take not playing well and going through, over showing a star studded performance and being knocked out every day of the week. I just hope we can make the best out of what has been a less than impressive season and to be honest if making the best out of the season means playing bad and getting the result I think we should all be fine with that,and then in the summer make changes and then we could hope for the best in both playing good football and getting the result. Up Chelsea!! -BLUERAY-

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04 Apr 2012 22:16:21
Lampard:Slowest passer of the season.
Mikel:The man who cannot pass forwards.
Ramires:Miss of the season.
Kalou:Worst passer and crosser in Europe.
Awful display.Only Ramires,Torres and Cole knew what they were doing the rest were on holiday.What was Cech doing during the corner from which they scored ?Sleeping.The reporter asked Lampard at the end of the match :What was missing ?
Lampard's reply should have been :I
Sorry for the long post ,but I am just disgusted with the performance.I hope it is not a double digit scoreline against Barca,it will be if we play like this.
roan

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Behave yourself mate thats a bit knee jerk, for a start Lampard played ok, made a least 5 or 6 good defensive headers from corners/crosses and he put the peno in, youve contradicted yourslef about Ramires in the post. We allowed ourselves an iffy performance because we earned it in Benfica, we got the job done. Granted against Barca it will have to be 2 8or9/10 performances but do you think the players arent fully aware of that? they wont switch of like that against Barca because they cant.

Shocking attitude mate we've just gone through to the Champions League semi final and your disgusted?

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Not a true fan. Bring on Barcelona and the referee

Jm10

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Again ,I did not contradict myself in the post.I only stated that the opportunity Ramires missed to score from a yard with an open goal is the miss of the season,but he played his heart out and did his job and at least tried to take control of the midfield,unlike most of the others.I have every right to be disgusted with the performance whether we have reached the semis or not because we were just outplayed and outclassed by a 10 man Benfica side at home.Why is Lampard,who plays in the role of our chief playmaker, in the team ,surely not to make defensive headers and score penalties,if he is there to do that ,no wonder we were played off the park.Do not go there again with the fan thing,Jm10.If we play like this there is no point reaching the semifinal and being happy as Barca will annihilate us,which means no champion league football next season.
roan

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Behave yourself? A

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04 Apr 2012 22:08:09
Dont care about the performance, wouldnt of been the same anyway without the nerves, this is the way we do it in europe!

I think its pretty clear next season we need a bit of quality where Kalou was playing, very wastefull tonight, Ramires isnt good ebough out on the right in advanced positions either i like the player but he shouldnt be so far up the field, Thought the defence was mostly solid, Cech was at fault for the goal, Mata loads better in the middle. All in all RDMs system will work but we lack a quality wide player and a top drawer midfielder IMO. Gonna have to be a lot more ruthless in front of goal against Barca but i still think we can go through . . .

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04 Apr 2012 21:57:43
I know we won but that was an appauling performance, back to the old, slow, minimum effort Chelsea. I'm at the Bridge on Saturday, surely will perform better then.

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It was not pretty but we got the job done, we could have gone out and played a much more attacking game and gone out of the Champions League, I am happy with the performance over both legs.

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Yeah thats a better way of describing it, but against ten men we should've attacked a little bit more.

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04 Apr 2012 21:53:37
congrats on your win tonight, great game and fantastic goal by meireles

Good luck vs barca

Jacob lfc ynwa

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04 Apr 2012 21:52:59
Phew, not a classic performance but did enough to beat an average benfica side, let's hope there's more to come against barca and the referee next game.

We really lack good quality wingers who create chances by crossing and taking on players

FT9

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Forget wingers we do not have central midfielders.
roan

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Really need quality strikers who can take advantage of these crosses too,Torres and Kalou aint the answer.

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04 Apr 2012 21:45:46
Wow is all I have to say.... Terrible performance tonight against a team with 10 men for over 50 minutes.. We have some changes to make before we play narcs or it's curtains for us after the first leg.

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Sorry barca* damn iPhone autocorrect

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04 Apr 2012 21:41:19
Too.close.for.comfort.

Jm10

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04 Apr 2012 21:36:36
congratulations chelsea, i love your team.. good luck against barca.... from a glasgow rangers fan....jsm

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04 Apr 2012 20:48:46
Wow!Lampard and Kalou just vanished in the first half.Our midfield is being passed by far too easily.We are being letdown big time by our midfield ,which was torn to shreds by Benfica,and are a bit lucky to be leading.With Benfica down to ten men we will probably win.But something needs to be done to that midfield before we face Barca.
roan

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Thought Lampard played quite well, made some quality tackles.

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Tackles is that how you judge this performance. Although we are winning it is quite embarrassing how we r playing. just watched another great piece of play by Kalou. Look results have picked up and our effort has improved but the standard of play is just awful. Really worried about facing Barca. They'll not give us a kick like they did against utd. We'll get hammered with this level of play

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We dont close down quick enough, need 3 in midfield essien lamps ramiresmeirelles. mata back on the wing against barca. im sorry but mikel lampard were to slow tonight. atleast we won though. ramires aint a winger not gunna coment on kalou. because we dont have the wingers maybe play a 4312

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Lampard's job is to pass not tackle.
roan

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Agree with you roan. re the post above I think we'll play 1 10 against Barca

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Since when is it not a midfielders job to tackle!

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Tackling is a part of the job and a basic for any footballer, but Lampard's main job as the playmaker is to make incisive passes and to set the tempo of our play.
roan

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04 Apr 2012 20:35:12
Half time analysis:

They were dominating until the sending off. Admittedly, decisions have gone our way, can't see us losing it from here, next goal is crucial

Jm10

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04 Apr 2012 20:27:16
I'm obviously delighted with the scoreline at the moment 1-0 but God we r dire. As stated all season the midfield is terrible. Can't pass the ball or keep it for any period of time. We just seem to pass it back to the keeper and hoof it long. Come on lets try and play some football

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04 Apr 2012 19:44:46
Come on the Chels!
I reckon a 3-1 win tonight :)
Badger

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04 Apr 2012 18:50:11
Can't believe I'm saying this but I hope ferreria starts.

Ferreria. Luiz. Terry. Cole

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04 Apr 2012 17:57:53
Looking forward to tonight, should be a good game and win to boot!

Can't see Bobby taking any risks with the team tonight, Benfica are a good team and anything but our strongest possible team would be foolish!

3-1 win to Chelsea!

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04 Apr 2012 17:33:46
Ed is torres starting tonight? {Ed001's Note -I don't know, 002 isn't about to ask, but I would expect so myself.}

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04 Apr 2012 17:08:37
PR! I just saw you walking through hatch end :), thought you were off skiing ??

JO!

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I was on my way to the game my son!

PR!

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04 Apr 2012 15:37:54
Predictions for tonight please people.

I'm going for 3-1 to the blues

FT9

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Im going for a 3-0 win with torres ramires and lampard on the scoresheet

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I think a tight 2-1 Torres both goals. But optimistic but his been brilliant lately

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Brilliant at what?,not scoring goals,Benfica to snatch it on the break,winning by the odd goal.

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2-1, mata and Ivanovic

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04 Apr 2012 05:05:56
I hope we are able to shut Benfica out today.We have to be extremely careful at the back while dealing with their crosses and corners. It is imperative that we control the midfield today.Whoever is playing as the right winger has to track back and mark Gaitan as his crosses are their single biggest weapon.I think we are strong enough to win today. My prediction is 2-0 to us.
roan

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