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03 Dec 2012 21:45:15
I think Rafa will be sacked if it goes on like this ,i call it 3 games after the Jan transfer window.
What are Roman,Gourlay and Emenalo doing?They are destroying the club!Roman + Emenalo out!!!
Roman made the club what it is
04 Dec 2012 10:29:06
out urself! Without Roman, u won't be here!
BB.
03 Dec 2012 21:42:58
my heart is busy bleeding ,Chelsea FC is bleeding:Please get rid of Benitez and Torres and Emanalo...Get in Falcao and a manager who hasn't slated our club like that in the past...
Omg.... Do you know how much good Michael Emenalo is? he is superb and one of the world best sporting Director if not the best.
Torres is garbage and is out of the door soon, and Benitez is gone in 5 months.
04 Dec 2012 10:30:47
Emenalo is doing some great job. We'll be sorted out in the summer.
03 Dec 2012 20:42:09
Did anyone see Neville's analysis of Torres on mnf? Very interesting and unbiased, I think it might open a few peoples eyes. Win or lose up the blues
Blue John
No what did he say?
Gary neville was spot on about Torres.
Agreed, he wasn't just blaming Torres , he was trying to find solutions to his and our problems.
It's to easy just to say Torres is rubbishe , like me and everyone else on this site has been doing. He's the first pundit I've seen actually giving it proper analysis rather than just slaughtering him.
Fernando does need to change his game because he relied so much on pace and now that's long gone.
You still get cart horses scoring goals in the prem , holt , lambert , fletcher, so there's no reason he can't find the goalscoring touch again , the worrying thing for me tho is that he rarely gets into goal scoring positions and his first touch is horrendous & there looks to be a lack of effort a lot of the time.
One slight bit of encouragement I got from the west ham game was that at least Fernando did get a few chances even tho he never notched , I've seen games when he hasn't had a sniff for the whole 90mins.
I want to see him stay in the box rather than drift out wide all the time & shoot more rather than take 3 touches to get it under and then get crowded out.
I know I'm clutching at straws before you all get stuck in to me.
Cfcmatt.
Cfcmatt the problem is that speed is far from his biggest problem, every other football qualities has vanished. He cannot even hold a freaking ball without losing it, his first touch is as bad as mine and he is so afraid to shoot on the goal for some reason. He cannot position himself properly either and that has nothing at all with his speed, maybe it is just a way to avoid being put in situations which would require him to shoot.
To me it looks like he just f*cks up on purpose or he got some nervous break down that teared his mind all over, one cant simply lose all his football skills over 2 seasons while training and playing football pretty much every day.
His loss of speed is his biggest problem because that's what his hole game was based on , electric pace to get him into posistions to score.
And if u actually read ( if u can ) what I've written then I also say about his lack of a first touch and lack of effort at times.
Also G . Nev was correct when he says that when Nando drops deep to get the ball the players playing off him need to make runs in behind him which will draw there centre backs away from Torres giving him a bit more room allowing him to turn.
Yes he needs to pull his finger out but for me it ain't all his fault.
Cfcmatt.
03 Dec 2012 20:41:34
Please tell me i'm not the only one who misses a midfielder like Deco, Joe Cole or Michael Ballack? A solid midfield player who chipped in with assists and goals and could pick a pass. Someone like that alongside Ramires would be lethal in our midfield, even more so with a striker.
Any ideas? Still think we shouldn't have sold Mereilles, he did that job well. Love to hear others thoughts and comments though.
EH17 {Ed018's Note - A Ballack or a younger healthy Essien partnered with Ramires would be nice}
Ballack seriously bossed midfield.. Midfielder who had EVERYTHING, we need a makalele to, what a player he was and how missed was he when he left
Ballack is truely missed! Well there is still a few posibilities out there like :
Thiago Alcántara - He is still very young and is gonna be one hell of a player.
Arturo Vidal - Doubt Juventus wil let him go but damn i would love him to join.
Claudio Marchisio - Doubt Juventus would let him good either, he destroyed us in CL :(
João Moutinho - Plays extreamly well already and would be very welcome.
Paulinho - Actually he is even available in January and has played with Ramires quite alot already and is very good at attacking and can defend very well too.
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To the more defensive choises.
Nathaniel Chalobah - Hes big favorite of mine and the way he is progressing he is gonna be 1st choise in 2-3 years in Chelsea's midfield no doubt and he is already not very far from Mikel/Romeu level of play.
Sami Khedira - My preferred choise atm but is very injury prone, playing very well with Alonso atm.
Yann M'Vila - Im really not sure about him and thats only down to his attitude, he would be without doubt my preferred choise if he behaved decently. He is just what we need atm.
Lars Bender - Havent seen much of him really but a friend of mine speaks very highly of him, and if he is better than his brother he got quite a future ahead of him.
Fernando - Must admit i havent seen very much of him either alot of people speak very highly of him tho, really wonder why he isent on the Brazil NT. From what i have seen he would definitely offer a improvement for Chelsea.
Étienne Capoue - A very great with the ball and we could really benefit from his great passing, and excelent as ball winning too. He uses his physic very well too and can actually score goals aswell... well atleast in Ligue 1. He would definitely best pick of them all if you count financial cost aswell.
03 Dec 2012 19:56:07
Where's all the spirit on here? it's only 22 days to christmas or 3 Chelsea managers.
03 Dec 2012 19:39:56
you know how embarrased you felt saturday? well times that by a hundred if we end up in the europey cup on thursday nights,the thought sends a shudder through me,
rayzor
03 Dec 2012 19:29:55
Baffled as to why Zenden is Benitez's assistant he does not even have any coaching badges he cannot even stand in the technical area why did Chelsea not get someone who the fan's like someone like Albert Ferrer?
03 Dec 2012 18:13:13
So what do you guys think about Nathaniel Chalobah ?
I personally think he is gonna be our first choise in 2-3 years, he is amazing for 17 year old (18 in 10day tho) and Romeu and Mikel really gotta shape up before he gets them benched when he gets recalled.
Future captain for me
Jordan
I think he will settle as a centre half. That being said he would be a heck of a defensive mid as well.
Tk
03 Dec 2012 17:38:04
Folks I'm on the site regularly checking all the banter and the attacking all the players is unreal, Torres and Mikel especially. Does everyone not realise this is a team game with 11 players. Its not only the above 2 who are not performing. The team has not been performing. Torres is slated for his misses and he has missed some but I don't think the team have performed.I mean Mata missed a sitter on Sat just before half time which would probably have sealed the game, he also missed whilst clean through against Liverpool blazing over on a one on one when we were 1up.
We have some fixtures coming up this week which we should win and hopefully get the team going in the right direction before the Jan buys which sare needed, especially another forward to help Torres and a all round centre midfielder.
NI Blue
Unbelievable, do you watch the games regularly? Torres has to be the biggest failure ever seen in the Prem under Chelsea. The last goal he scored was because the keeper belted the ball at him and it went in off him. He shows no signs of happiness at the club and his body language on the pitch says he just cant be bothered. Mikel, for the life in him has all the things needed to be a great defensive midfielder, strong, fast and athletic but he just cant play to the style Chelsea are trying to play. He makes far too many mistakes and isnt the greatest passer of the ball. Yes there are quite a few players who need to pull their weight, Hazard and Oscar seem to struggle with the physical demands of the Prem, then we have the under performers in Cole, Cech and Luiz. They all collectively need to sort it out between them and knuckle down hard in training. Scott M.
Problem is Mata "specialty" is to give assist and so is Hazard and especially Oscar. But they have none to give it too cause Torres play like sh*t, and it often makes them confused when they cannot pass it to him so they pass the ball to one or another and the same goes over and over again. If Sturiddge get played upfront instead of Torres with Hazard - oscar - Mata behind him i can guarantee you they all wil look much better and willing to play. I can imagine it sucks for them to be forced to pass to Torres all the time and he lose the ball everytime, that would fustrate me atleast.
I disagree that Oscar stuggle with the physical demand, Hazard does but i think its down to he stopped dribbling and now just standing still with it too much. Cech plays well and Luiz has played quite good uder Benetiz, Cole on the other hand has played awful lately.
I agree the problem is that the rest of the team has to pull Torres and Mikels weight i already said this in the beggining of the season with Torres, but most people said it was fine cause of the trio, ivanovic and Cahill scored the goals and now we struggle thanks to him.
03 Dec 2012 17:33:40
It is just soooooooo imperative that we get a few strikers this January. Falcao is the main man we need but I'd love to see Cavani as an alternative (or both, we all know what Roman is capable of). If we do only get one then another cheap striker is needed if we sell Sturridge as well as that blond person who can't seem to get his bloody act together. I'd love to see Llorente. Watched him in the Europa League last year and he destroyed United. Hes exactly what we're looking for, a big powerful striker who wins the headers, intimidates and bullies the defense, works the box and who can actually put the ball into the net. Love to see both Cavani and Falcao but unlikely and maybe COUGH Neymar COUGH.
RT
Agree, Llorente would be perfect but for some reason Chelsea dont really seem so interested in him anymore. I really think he would be great for the team and would score a alot of goals for us, he is probably one of the best strikers aviable in January.
Neymar and falcao. Neymar will turn out to be one of the best players in the world, but he would struggle for the first couple of years. The amount of time he has on the ball in brazil is unreal as the defenders are all scared of him. If he played against stoke he would get battered
I think it's a matter of Llorente not wanting to be a guy that doesn't start most games but that's what role he would have.
Tk
03 Dec 2012 15:13:08
Ed, How ridiculous would it be to speculate that Mourinho might return to Chelsea in the summer?
BlueB {Ed002's Note - Again, I have no interest in speculating over or discussing the manager right now.}
03 Dec 2012 10:48:40
Ed 002 Do you think Benitez will last much longer in the job?
Are the Grant rumours to be taken seriously and if so do you see him replacing Benitez?
Thanks {Ed002's Note - Again, I have no interest in speculating over or discussing the manager right now.}
03 Dec 2012 12:56:53
Interesting to see who comes in, in January., we can use Torres for falcao as he would love to play for Madrid and as good as falcao is cavani I'd more suited to prem,, and is a serious unit of strength and speed.. Who would u guys prefer and as we are going for two strikers who else would u want.. Llorente bony huntaleer
Llorente obvious, he is much better than the other two but might be much more expensive too :(
What are you talking about? Cavani and Falcao would eat Llorente up and pick his flesh out of their teeth with his bones!
No rubbish m8 i was talking about huntelaar and Bony.
Let's just go for both Cavani and Falcao
03 Dec 2012 09:31:31
I hope the Cavani talks are not just my wishful thinking. He's a beast of a player. Pace, strength, lethal shot, holding up the ball, playing with the back to the goal, immense. We need this guy.
Also if we add, and we should add to the midfield - we should look no further than Fellaini. This site's regulars know, that i was stating this for these past two seasons. His size is impressive, but his technique for his built are even more impressive. With him at Chelsea we get a completely different quality. We can revert to 4-3-3 and have him play the Lampard role, we can do a diamond, where he can play any of the midfield positions. By the way of his excelling in the attack, he can surely play behind the striker or as a second striker in certain lineup. This versatility is rare. And we should not hesitate one second with this decision.
Fellaini and Cavani would balance the squad and add what we lack most - goals. What was the last time we lead 2-0? That's when you can concentrate on holding the ball, do a sideway mikel and look to counter. If i'm not mistaken, the last time we lead 2-0 was at Norjeland game in CL. Had Torres scored in any of his countless chances against WHU, it's a completely different game.
JG
Credit where it's due JG, you have been harping on about Fellani for a while now, and I, for one, disagreed. Can see why you were so persistent with saying we needed him. Good shout.
Cavani I'm doubtful of a January move. If Napoli are willing to sell, it is a two horse race between ourselves and RM. we could only have passed on the proposed Higuan deal, because we believed we were a very good chance to land Cavani.
For me, he would be the ideal Drogba replacement. Falcao and Cavani are the only two strikers I would go crazy for, although currently Kezman would be a better shout then Torres.
Melbourne CFC
I think we should just buy Cavani and Falcao and sell torres and build up the partnership. It would be scary!
That would be unreal but extreamly unliky
Those would be my two but we would have to develope a different role for Fellaini. That being said those two together will cost in the range of 80mil. Roman Abromavich he gets what he wants.....
Tk
03 Dec 2012 07:33:42
If Chelsea can't get Mourinho or Guardiola in the summer then who would you guys want us to get?
Personally I would like Hiddink back
FT9
Klopp without a doubt for me. Extremely unlikely though
Melbourne CFC
Hiddink is retiring next year
Or Ancelotti
Jurgen Klopp
Surewould
No offence, but this is completely pointless. The summer is a long way off and looking at other peoples lists of managerial fantasies is not going to change the fact we as fans need to get behind the club and players now. I understand why the majority of fans do not want Benitez at Chelsea, and am not overly happy myself, but it is not his fault. He was offered a job, he took it, end of. The booing needs to stop, if anyone has grievances, they should be aimed at Roman and the board. I am actually finding myself feeling sorry for Rafa, fair enough he said things in the past about us, but he said things about most clubs, just as Jose did (and does). The current atmosphere at the ground is the worst I have seen in the 22 years I have been going to Stamford Bridge, only 6 months after winning the champions league! Most of the chants seem to be aimed at reducing a man (Who despite all this proved himself to be a genuine human being at Liverpool) to nothing. Is the idea to have him curl up in a ball on the side of the pitch and have a breakdown? I love the club, but this is whole episode has been unedifying and needs to be bought to an end. Support the team. I didn't agree with the decision to sack Robbie, and certainly not the one to offer Benitez the job, but that is our lot unfortunately, it won't be forever, so at least give the man a chance to get our boys playing again.
Blue25
Ancelotti and Wilkins we were going places under them. Been on a slippery slope ever since.
DP
AVB for me, wasn't given enough time
Curt
Take a tissue Blue25. No one is saying our choices are going to happen, it was a question asked, and answered for the enjoyment of the posters.
The crowd is dosturbingly bad at the moment, but in no way is it even close to being as bad as the results. If Rafa thought he could win the fans over with wins (he said those words) he is doing an almighty bad job of it. He will be held accountable for results on the pitch. If anyone thinks that the atmosphere around the ground is making a massive difference they are having a laugh. If a 'professional' manager, can't get professional players to win professional football games, due to fans being less than supportive, he doesn't deserve the job!
I will never, ever support him, not going to apologise for it either. I wouldn't boo him at games but I certainly wouldn't be telling those that did to stop.
Melbourne CFC
03 Dec 2012 11:32:39
Behave yourself Curt. Have u forgotten ur rain of insults at me when I dared say AVB wasn't given time, and that he would've done better with our present squad? Funny.
Bas!cs.
It is obviously someone impersonating curt
Roy keane
Steady on Melbourne, no one deserves to be booed - no matter how bad things get. Hodgson was booed at Liverpool and it's not a good thing, I didn't want him as manager but never would I boo him and if someone I knew did I would have let them know what I thought of them. If you were in your job and 30 thousand people were booing you calling for you to get the sack without even giving you a chance would you think that fair? No you wouldn't, give him a chance guys. You never know, he might surprise you?
KiwiRed
He has surprised me, he is worse than I remember. I said I wouldn't boo him, but it's certainly up to other fans, especially if they are season tickets holders, to make up their own mind. If they choose to boo a man, and they pay to see the side, then they can boo away as far as I'm concerned. If FSW wants to use the lack of support I think it's a disgrace. If you can't get at least 6 points from your first 3 games in charge, 2 at home, 2 against lower opposition, you need to have a good hard look at yourself. If you come to a team you have described with abusive words in the past, and expect the fans to be behind you, you need to have a good hard look at yourself. If you say you want to win the fans over with wins, and you don't deliver a win, you need to have a good hard look at yourself.
Glad to see you posting again kiwi ;-)
Melbourne CFC