Chelsea Banter Archive July 31 2012

31 Jul 2012 20:42:20
Hey Mates!

Wanted to run this by you all, what if instead of spending 35mil+ on a quality striker we give Torres and Sturridge a shot as lone striker and invest in Moura who is an awesome winger with great speed and can take on players and get to net as well. We could go into a 4-5-1 kinda with Marin and Moura on wings, Hazard/Mata/Oscar playing high inside behind striker and Ramires/Essien being deep in middle. I feel this would be potent not only in middle of field but down both flanks as well. We could get Moura and Moses as a squad player to back up wings and 3rd striker for same price as overpriced strikers. What do you think??

I think it's no good having good wingers if there's nobody to get on the end of there good work, thats why we need another good striker

Dont need moura....

Oscar is better than moura and will be 10 times the play he will ever be

if we signed another brazilian the only one i would want to sign is neymar

31 Jul 2012 20:34:34
Hey guys,

Truly believe we are still weak at defensive midfield, how about selling Mereilles, Malouda, Ben Ayoun and Essien ( probably get 15mil for them and get us a top notch midfield destroyer like M'Villa, Capoue, Felaini etc... I love our additions so far but feel we need a quarterback to help transition defense to offense quicker, win more balls in the middle of field and be able to close quicker.

Your thoughts?

Offloading players like that is very difficult because they want to stay, chelsea demand high fees and the fact that thier wage demands are very high, i cant see us getting rid of all of the deadwood this summer

Ess looked gd pre season, if he is we dont need any 1. BLUEBOY1

Good call!
If essien comes back to the player he was, it will be better than any signing. He used to set the tempo of a game. I got man u, arsenal mates that have agreed on this.
Luke

How can you justify wanting to sell essien

yes he werent amazing last season but he had just come back from a long injury

he will get his form back this season and back to being one of the best defensive midefielders at the moment

curt

I think he came back too soon aswell, remember the push to get him back playing?

That is correct mate showed how desperate we were last season in all honesty you wait this season he will be a machine

curt

I have to say that the 'Ben Ayoun' bit made me fall off my chair laughing.

PieZ

31 Jul 2012 18:01:53
1) Why are chelsea fans talking about robbie leaving already and pep taking charge, we haven't even played a competitive game yet, some of you are unbelieveable!

2) What makes you think Pep is guarenteed success if he comes, which btw im not convinced he will? He didnt assemble that squad, it was already there. He would never of had that amound of success without messi, which btw hazard is not. Im afraid RA and a lot of chelsea fans are putting all their eggs in one basket because hypothetically if pep eventually gets sacked, who then?

You should think about that...

AG

I agree mate people are reading into the signings we have made too much thinking there for guadiola and maybe not just because there the rising stars at the moment

curt

Thats the point were talking about, i havent said get di matteo out and i want pep. because i dont di mo deserves his chance BLUEBOY1

Stop being a coward and say my name cos this post is bout wot I put on here! If u can actually read I said it was just a thought!

Pinky

I wasnt aiming at you blue boy mate just at the people that already want him out before hes started

amazing how quickly people forget last season when we lose a couple of pointless friendlies

curt

Pep was barca b coach before he made the step up so technically he did put that squad together

trueblue012

Curt i seem to agree with 75% of the stuff you say and pinky if you're having a go at me it is unessessary because i was aiming at quite a few people, i didnt even see your post so chill

In rdm we trust
Pep can go to united when fergie leaves its all built up for it,

You agree with 75% of what Curt says!? Are you Curts little brother? :)

Grow up no name

curt

31 Jul 2012 16:11:57
Oh my.
Just when you think Loserfool fans can't get more deluded...
They start claiming Oscar is going on loan to them...
Ladies, gentleman, lads, I think we have a new contender for biggest BS on the site.
Eds, who does the Loserfool page? Surely this should be in dodgy? It is about as likely to happen as Messi is to join Nantwich.
As the words of the Great Kammy: Unbelievable Jeff!
CFCFOREVER!

CFCForever. Why are u always on other clubs pages....? MB

MB: Always fun to irritate rival fans, I'm sure Puzzled, Cozinoz and Co. love it
CFCFOREVER!

Probably to have a giggle at what they are saying

just because were all chelsea fans MB dont mean we cant go onto the other pages for a laugh

curt

CFCFOREVER - irritate us? you are far too unimportant to bother anyone on the MAIN page

Puzzled

Ye buy we don't need to hear about it everyday .... MB

MB, probably cause he's tired of reading the same stuff on here over and over again. Plus, its always fun to see who is more dillusional between spuds and Loserpudlians.

ELI

True.
MB

31 Jul 2012 14:49:02
any interest in pato as no likely move for cavani or hulk?

Great shout!can come off the bench to
Fill in for nando hes young torres got 3 years max by that time pato would be settled

Injury prone, overrated, huge price tag plus wages, couldn't handle the hype and therefore his development has stalled. Not needed. MB

Wow your not critical are you MB yes injury prone but before he got injured he was guna be a big player

31 Jul 2012 13:22:56
How comes chelsea never sign big Sponsorship deals like man utd, have just recently like over 200million?

I swear its 30 mill not 200

The deal chelsea have with samsung is one of the biggest in the prem.

31 Jul 2012 12:46:20
Many supporters are calling for Chelsea to sign highly priced players such as Edinson Cavani, but I’m afraid that won’t happen, neither will Hulk, unless there prices drop somewhat significantly. The reason why?The new fair play regulations bought in to football meaning there is restrictions as to how much you can spend in a certain amount of time. Gourlay also stated Chelsea’s desire to ‘break even’, meaning they are looking at cheaper options, players that are worth around the £6-£12 million mark.

I think we all know by now that Chelsea want to sign a right back and a right sided winger, to improve our right sided resources. Today there have been various sources including Metro, reporting that Chelsea have had a £6 million bid rejected for Marseille right back Cesar Azpilicueta. Marseille do want to sell the player though, and are set to demand £10 million for the 23-year-old Spanish international. More than likely a deal will be agreed for somewhere in the region of £9 million. Right back position sorted? Very likely now.

There has been huge calls for Chelsea to sign another striker, with it being seen as a risk to rely on Torres and Sturridge, with Lukaku looking to go out on loan. So this is why I believe we are doing so much to try and sign Wigan’s Victor Moses, who is predominantly a winger. Di Matteo however, will be aware of the players versatility being able to play as an attacking midfielder, and more importantly, as a centre forward, hence providing suitable cover for Fernando Torres. Chelsea have already had three fairly low bids rejected by Wigan for Moses, but it is said that they are now willing to meet somewhere near to Dave Whelan’s £10 million value for the Nigerian international.

Meanwhile, it looks as if there is only a matter of time before Chelsea sell Yossi Benayoun and Florent Malouda, in order to free up some room in the squad. Whilst De Bruyne and Lukaku are expecting to tie up loan deals soon. Chelsea are even willing to listen to offers for Michael Essien, despite the player stating his desire to stake his claim in the squad.

Whatever happens, Chelsea are now looking at younger talent as apposed to older peaked players that they have done in the past. Younger players that Gourlay has described will become valued in the region of £40 million once they’ve peaked. A good move forward by the club in my opinion.

Shak

Its been said before forget the fair play rule for the moment

And this was coppied off of cfc net or vital or 1 of the chelsea unofficial sites cuz i read it.

It's not his opinion anyway. That's a copy and paste from a different website. Unless he's a journo for them which I'm doubting.
Marley

Bare in mind that the fair play rule suggests that you should only spend what you earn, Chelsea won the Chams League £50mil and the FA Cup £20mil and have spend £65mil on players so far. £5mil spare over and there is season ticket sales, sponsorships and merchandise sales to count up so there is plently left to spend. Also the rule has not yet been fully exercised and Platini will be having a rethink when he see's what PSG has spent. {Ed002's Note - It does not work like this at all. Sorry.}

To the poster above - Google the FFP rules, will help you get a better understanding.

IB.

If we did have to worry about the fair play rule though ed surely paris saint germain are breaking the rule more than us??

curt {Ed002's Note - I am on the road - I will be back perhaps Friday and will try to take the time to explain.}

I know what the purpose of the FFP rules are and they do like to use the word 'Encourage' alot. This is from UEFA's FFP objective sheet:
• to introduce more discipline and rationality in club football finances;
• to decrease pressure on salaries and transfer fees and limit inflationary effect;
• to encourage clubs to compete with(in) their revenues;
• to encourage long-term investments in the youth sector and infrastructure;
• to protect the long-term viability of European club football;
• to ensure clubs settle their liabilities on a timely basis.

And to say this has been in effect since 2010 apparently, they must be just taking a loose view on it all. Its more money out of their pocket you see.

Ah ok thanks ed enjoy your travels

curt

C'mon people, do you really think that Ron Gourlay, Roman and all the other top boffins at Chelsea have completely forgotten about the FFP ? I'm sure the club knows where it stands even if we don't.

31 Jul 2012 11:55:31
I guess we need to find the right formation which will suit better to our players, their own talents and most importantly whole as a team.

I would like to switch to 4-1-4-1 or some of you can even say 4-3-3 some times.

----------------------------CECH----------------------------

IVANOVIC-------LUIZ---------------J. TERRY--------COLE

---------------------------ESSEIN--------------------------
----------RAMIRES---------------------OSCAR-------------

MATA----------------------------------------------HAZARD

--------------------------F.TORRES--------------------------

Substitutes: turnbull, cahill, azpilicueta, mikel, lampard, marin, sturridge

Many of you will ask me about not selecting lampard in the starting XI but i guess he will have his chance in place of ramires/oscar when required.
Essein when fully fit i will select him ahead of Mikel any day.
Marin on bench as substitute to hazard/mata.
Sturridge on bench as substitute to F. Torres.

This is our strongest line up no doubt. lamps benched but id rather mceachran on the bench than mikel.

Only Bad thing is we would be better off playing Mata and Hazard more centrally as it would be easier for them to play short passes and to do what Mata done last season - all this is my opinion btw

JMJW

31 Jul 2012 09:56:00
any update on maicon? he was available for 8 mill, would be better than boswinger for the next 2 seasons

That interest finished ages ago where have you been

curt

He's gone to Madrid. Use the search function next time.

Think you need to take your own advice hes not at madrid

curt

31 Jul 2012 01:37:51
Ed, Have Chelsea ever considered bringing Ian Holloway to the club in any capacity, say manager? He would make u laugh even when u lose... What a great commedian! My heart broke last time Blackpool were relegated for two reasons: They know hw to pick d six points 4rm L'pool. Plus Ian's comedy overflow. Can u get me a video of his quotes?
Celestyn.

Holloway is hilarious, not sure whether we need him at Chelsea though.

Just when i thought this doughnut had disappeard for good he comes back with more bull

curt