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31 Aug 2012 23:20:16
I fear another long hard season fighting for 3rd or 4th. We have some very good young players but too many passengers who just don't care and are far to inconsistent. I have seen more life in road kill than in mikes and mere illness put together
31 Aug 2012 23:11:35
I just don't understand the reasoning behind sending him on loan to Real Madrid...If he is good enough for Madrid, he is good enough for our starting 11...
PR!
Jose is a big fan PR and it gets him off the wage bill. Only reason I can see why we would agree is that we have plans for Romeu this year.
Melbourne CFC
After his injury he has never got back to match fitness gives his game time to
Get back to his old ways
He ain't good enough for Madrid and has been poor for us for a long time . Take a reality check pal.
31 Aug 2012 23:10:18
Wow, done some research. In 2009, 3 years ago, Radamel Falcao was signed by Porto from River Plate for only £2m. 2 Years later they sold him for £35m. (Porto know how to make a profit, haha). 3 Years after that move to Porto he is regarded as arguably the best striker on the face of the earth with a priice tag in the region of £50m. Found this rather interesting. :)
31 Aug 2012 23:07:06
Essien gone to R Madrid on loan for season
31 Aug 2012 23:06:33
essien to real madrid... thats is crap ( year loan)
31 Aug 2012 23:04:41
Deadline day done no player for chelsea suprise suprise, good work though eds, youve had a great transfer window
31 Aug 2012 23:03:14
personaly think all the people who said falcao was coming to chelsea to raise my hopes and everyones elses hopes should be hanged..or at least band -_-
31 Aug 2012 23:02:31
hey guys the window is closed now, i was wondering are chelsea trying to close any deals now?
31 Aug 2012 23:01:21
All over nobody in, not good at all.
31 Aug 2012 22:55:50
That looks like it Guys, disappointing night what with getting whipped and losing players without signing. Still we have made some great signings this summer and lets get behind all the team. Keep The Blue Flag Flying High
All that attacking talent and no service to Torres
31 Aug 2012 22:55:12
In hindsight we probably should of agreed to Real Madrids deal and left Cavani to them and taken Higuain.
31 Aug 2012 22:53:35
It is also no coincidence that our best performance came when Mireles was in the midfield in the place of Lampard when we were playing Newcastle.
The commentator who was obviously a CFC hater was having a field day.He literally mocked us and even said" Chelsea have been put in their place today" and that all our results are a fluke.
I mean who picks those person commentators!
roan
The commentators also seemed to think that Azpilicueta was on the bench instead of Sturridge.
31 Aug 2012 22:51:34
Absolute joke all you fickle little people already giving it to RDM. It was the SuperCup! He won us the fa and champions league and has us 3 from 3 in the league.
Melbourne CFC
Well said!
Your one of the old school posters.
Luke
Melbourne you have obviously been blind since RDM took over. We did get the two trophies but certainly not due to his genius of parking the bus. Anyone who really cares 2 s**ts about CHELSEA would see that. When he goes u can go with him.
Haha ok no name thanks for your input.
Melbourne CFC
Well said Melbourne. Glad to see you are back.
Blue25
31 Aug 2012 22:46:17
Granero would of been a good signing for us.
31 Aug 2012 22:45:47
RDM on Chelsea tv says we dont need another stiker or any other players. If that performance does not improve he'll be out before Xmas.
31 Aug 2012 22:44:22
Duck sake not even a rumour on deadline day! Cheers ed018 ed002 for everything during this window!
31 Aug 2012 22:43:59
Why would falcoa join hed just seen allow the empty seats in the chelsea end and witnessed the poor support he would be subjected to every week...
31 Aug 2012 22:43:30
Watching RDM interview on Chelsea tv and he says he is happy with Torres and Sturridge as forwards. In that case why do we play Sturridge RW if he's classed as a striker.
Why play lampard CDM when he's CAM. Why play betrand LW when he's a LB. why bring Oscar on today LW when he is CM. why are we trying to keep certain players on the pitch and pushing other players out of position, that's why at times we look so poor. Too many players are forced out of position to keep the old guard in. If where going to freshen things,then let's go all out. Oscar,hazard,betrand,Sturridge,Moses,romeu lets put them out there and see them play. I'm actually looking forward to the league cup game v wolves as I think the young players that we have can give us better football.
NWBLUE
Gd post, indeed why spend 70mil to have almost 40 of it sitting on the bench. Now we see why RA hesitated to give him the Job.
So true we need to replace the old guard with the "new guard" soon lamp wil play goalkeeper
31 Aug 2012 22:43:09
It seemed like we resorted to the typical slow build up...So horrible to watch...
PR!
31 Aug 2012 22:42:00
Di matteo, you bought all these attacking player.
1. Not one is an out and out striker
2. Holding role signing was needed.
3. With the players bought Ramires should not be playing right wing.
However we are Chelsea FC and we will be strong again eventually.
(Di Matteo might have lost his job by then)
31 Aug 2012 22:41:55
oh come on Chelsea make a signing already!
31 Aug 2012 22:40:27
15-20 minutes to go, and nothing, we might just have to face the fact that were done for this window
31 Aug 2012 22:40:04
They just said on ChelseaTV that we're the only team wit 100% record in the prem. What a load of bull. Swansea + Everton anyone? Do they know anything?
Ash
31 Aug 2012 22:39:47
What did you make of that Ed018? Can't defend like that against a player like that! Site in meltdown or something?
Melbourne CFC {Ed018's Note - poor defending, and a lot of panicking}
We still in talks with Schurrle?
Melbourne CFC {Ed018's Note - Doesn't look like it}
Agh well so be it, we know roman loves a January spending spree if needed.
Melbourne CFC
Good to see you posting again melbourne, gives me reason to start posting again.
jono
31 Aug 2012 22:39:25
im sorry ive said it the whole time roberto di matteo does not have a clue BLUEBOY1
31 Aug 2012 22:34:19
I speak for every Chelsea fan when i say...
HURRY UP AND SIGN SOMEONE!
31 Aug 2012 22:29:56
People dont blame mikel. Ivanovic went forward way too much not realising he doesnt have the pace to stop the counter attack. Also Lampard is not a holding midfielder hence failing to deal with the counter attack. Also we cant rely on Torres all season long.
31 Aug 2012 22:27:57
why is essien going to madrid ? we need him on the pitch give them mikel ! if it is true will it be part of any deal for a player coming in ? higuain perhaps ?
31 Aug 2012 22:27:03
Times ticking ShedLower
JamesCfcFwaag
31 Aug 2012 22:20:25
Does that game remind anyone of anything? A lot of possession against a well-organised team, well drilled and knew breaking game plan well, as well as them having a deadly powerful centre forward who can score in a heartbeat and countering with gusto? Looking like they want to win the game more.
Lets hope for the rabbit out of the hat eh?
EH17
31 Aug 2012 22:20:22
Can anyone tell me why chelsea tv is live?
Talking about the Game
31 Aug 2012 22:20:09
Lads, it's got to the point where the Eds can only know what we know, no more questions, there's 40 minutes left and more could still happen, IN ROMAN WE TRUST
31 Aug 2012 22:16:05
Looks like i was wrong on Remy sorry guys, remember though at least we aren't Liverpool ;)
Scruffy
31 Aug 2012 22:15:44
I sincerely hope RDM realizes that Ramires is not a rm.Lampard is not fit to start .
The gap between our midfield and defense is huge and their attacking midfielders , wingers and striker were running for fun at our defense.
Falcao played well but the chances he got were fairly easily.He showed that is is a top class finisher but the he is not the man to solve our problem.
The passing was downright pathetic especially from Lamps,Ramires and Ivan.
The ball was passed only three or four times to Torres in the whole first half.Hazard also did not see much of the ball.
Lampard attempted to shoot whenever the ball reached him in the opposition half and only made half assed long pathetic passes to the front two.
I fell sorry for Torres when he had to come deep into our half to receive the ball and that too against his old team.
No wonder he stated committing fouls and was running all over the pitch in order to receive the ball.
RDM tactics were very poor as he did not change the set up even when it was quite evident from the very first minute that Adrian was ripping us apart on the right hand side. Falcao might have have scored the goals but it was Adrian that was the real menace as he was the one who was creating space for Falcao to score.
Mikel does not know how to tackle.Ivanovic had his worst Chelsea game.
I think the result was good in a way that some people will realize that central midfield is the real problem and stop blaming Torres for all our problems.
The slow passing allowed Athletico to get back in numbers and mark out our two main threats Torres and Hazard.
Play Oscar regularly in place of Lampard the boy will do wonders.Moses should start in place of Ramires on the right and Essien in place of Mikel.
roan
Good luck getting RDM to do that, he looked confused.
31 Aug 2012 22:12:51
He is a fool for letting essien leave on loan, he keep benching Romeu and playing mikel and Lampard who are just 2 slow for the modern game and playing Ramires out of position, it's gonna be the death of him. personic ignorant board at the club.
Dastanj
31 Aug 2012 22:09:19
The past few games have shown that mikel is quite adequate to step into a more box to box role as he seems a lot more technically sound than he was before.
I have always loved essien and sadly he is not the player he was but what he showed at the end of the last season was that he is perfectly placed in an anchor man role. Today showed that chelsea are very vulnerable to a good team's counter attack and without a ball winner cutting out those attacks will be swarmed at every attempt. For this reason he and romeu are necessities for the coming season.
Personally I think lampard is past his best and although stats his stats always say otherwise, a central midfield spot in a good team can not be filled with a world class penalty taker that contributes little at best.
D
31 Aug 2012 22:07:28
Would have been interesting to see what the score would have been had Chelsea actually turned up/
Sev
31 Aug 2012 22:06:18
I believe this is the team that should've started tonight:
Cech
Iva.-Cahill-Luiz-Cole
Romeu-Lampard
Hazard-Mata-Bertrand
Sturridge(Torres' mind was on the occasion not the game)
Meireles!! Our best cdm
Then we would have been beaten 6-0.You are still slating Torres and starting Lampard!
roan
31 Aug 2012 22:04:31
Please play Romeu and Ramires behind Hazard,Mata and Oscar...Lampard and Mikel are way to slow tracking back!!
Yes finally ones with some sense!
Been saying it for a while. They complement each other fantastically.
Tk
31 Aug 2012 22:03:53
Haha just had a funny thought. What if nothing has been said of a forward move because the forward is falcao and he wanted to say goodbye to Madrid. O well I can wish :)
NWBLUE {Ed018's Note - We share the same wishes}
I think we all do Ed..
Ash
31 Aug 2012 22:00:30
David luiz hang your head in shame!
Whoever the hell scouted him knows nothing about defending.
If barca wanted him we should have let him go he is a liability in defence
Shame city didnt bid 30mil for him
He was the better of the two CB today, the only thing Cahill did was score
Im afraid it is you that know nothing about defending
31 Aug 2012 21:58:55
-We were to eager to start off with and committed to many men forward and the pace of the athletic players picked us off.
-Torres wasn't shire weather he wanted to play for athletico or for chelsea as he is athletic fan as he said the nutter!
-2nd Half just felt we should've pushed back our FB's and brought on Moses and Sturridge for Ramires and Torres rather that Oscar.
-I would've like to have seen us change our shape a little bit second half.
-Oscar should've come on a little bit later in the game for mikel while we had possible momentum.
-And last but not least"Falcao is top drawer"Athletico can have Torres back any day give us Falcao Mr.Abramovic!!
But don't worry gentleman we have a young developing team this is a good learning curve early on in the season for both the players and the manager.
Steve Booyens.CFC
You're talking cobblers...
PR!
31 Aug 2012 21:58:43
Looks like Essien and Benayoun are on the way. Surely we have a midfielder lined up?
Thanks for all your work btw ED018 :)
Badger {Ed018's Note - I've tried, wish I had some better news. One hour to go}
31 Aug 2012 21:55:09
All this talk about Falcao and other strikers what we need is a coach. If we had Falcoa today IMO we still would be losing, RDM is just not a good coach. If any player is completely ignoring the game plan and doing his own thing then take him off if he won't listen, otherwise we can assume what we saw in that 1st half is what he thought would work.
If we fans have been saying Ramires is wasted as a winger and not effective there why can't the professional coach who studies game film see it.
Why can't he see that the holding pairing of Lampard and Mikel does not work and Ivan who is not a true RB struggles against pace.
Why is it that our starting 11 only has 1 player that wasn't on the sqaud from last year that struggled to score or keep posession.
I know a lot of u apologists for RDM will talk about D. Luiz's mistakes and JT not playing but this is the bottom line, Athletico's back 4 is not better than ours but they have a better game plan and have more creative and athletic midfield players on the pitch to prevent them being exposed. And the sad truth is that we have good players sitting on the bench.
I thought RDM was making progress last week when he saw the danger of Ben Arfa comming and put Bertrand on his side to help contain him, however a good coach is consistent especially in 1 match for a trophy.
IMO it doesn't matter who joins if RDM can't field the best sqaud. A few Chelsea supporters noticed some of these things during the summer as well as his lack of adjustment/sub when Ivan went off in the community shield but the early wins off Hazzard's heroic efforts drowned out those voices.
FloridaCFCFan
He's still learning but he's good mate.One thing about managing is to believe in your players and not make decisions to quickly.but i do agree changes should've been made sooner like Sturridge and Moses
Gd post Florida. I've had concerns about his tactics for a while. Mikel and lampard makes no sense.
Ads
Not being funny, it's a friendly. They wanted it a lot more than we did. That's pretty much what I took from the game.
Roweycfc
My only guess is that Ramires picked up an injury. One of Lampard or Mikel should of been taken of for oscar and ramires should of dropped back into a holding role. Lampard was very poor, offered nothing going forward and was often caught too far up the pitch.
A team gets at least one embarrassing result every year. I suppose we can take solace in the fact that this was an unimportant game that means very little overall. Still very disappointed though.
Rowan
31 Aug 2012 21:51:55
well well well been banging on about that u cant play mikel and lamps 2gether and i got pelters off ppl like curt and CFCFOREVER! well i hope u both watched that game! dumb and dumber springs to mind
kevinCFC
Kevin, just leave them alone okay? All Chelsea fans, all united as fans. Grow a pair and stop pissing people off.
EH17
And Kevin anyone with eyes picked that. Leave the negative name calling to school hours mate.
Melbourne CFC
31 Aug 2012 21:51:15
We need a cdm
More than a striker
Franks done mikel never started
31 Aug 2012 21:49:23
Oscar put a lot effort in for me when he came on, looked like the only one who cared about getting back in the game.
PR!
Yes agree Oscar was Chelsea's best player in 2nd half
31 Aug 2012 21:46:46
How can we be critical on an individual scale. Lets look at the whole team as football is about working as a team. Which is why we shouldn't beat up Chelsea tonight. A team that has had a lot of changes made to it will suffer against the better of teams. This is certainly a transitional stage and the introduction of such quality signings will not make it an easy ride straight from the off. Lets not forget that we are only five games into the season.
31 Aug 2012 21:46:16
Atleast 5 trophies please??
come'on you blues!
behind you forever
taby
31 Aug 2012 21:45:58
Well a much better second half in terms of attack, still very poor defensively, lets just wait and see now eh? Falcao has a release clause after all.... ;)
CFCFOREVER!
31 Aug 2012 21:45:42
Possibly the worst performance from Ivanovic I had ever seen. Against a quick counter attacking team, you need fast holding midfielders and playing Lampard and Mikel in there who are our slowest holding midfielders is madness. When is Robbie going to play Rami as a central midfielder...
Madness.
PR!
31 Aug 2012 21:43:32
Whats worse that performance or fact we not involved in any action. 1 hour left not even a decent rumour
31 Aug 2012 21:41:53
---------------------------Cech-------------------------
-----Azpillicueta-----Terry----Luiz----------Cole---------------Ramires--------Oscar-------Mikel-------------------Mata------------Torres----------Hazard-------
I have chosen to opt for 4-3-3. This is because I just feel having three attacking midfielders is too much. Hopefully this will add more balance but not losing out on attacking flare. Torres up front with Hazard and Mata along side him on the wings. Oscar as CM replacing Lampard as I have not been impressed with him. He will I am sure get forward and I have liked bits of his game today. Ramires on RCM and Mikel LCM. Mikel hasn't been too bad today perhaps I haven't been totally focused on individual mistakes but the whole team. To be honest I think we should look at this line-up as a serious consideration as it has more balance particularly focusing on defensive play with this which was certainly lacking in quality tonight.
31 Aug 2012 21:41:47
My ratings for the game:
Cech - 6 - Conceded a lot, but also made 4 or 5 good saves and was only beaten by sheer class and a lack of protection.
Cole - 4 - What did he do? Not the usual troublemaker on the over-lap and always left stuck on the counter.
Cahill - 5 - Better of the two CBs (which isn't saying a lot). Poor positionally and slow to press.
Luiz - 4 - Generous. Too many loose passes, caught out of position constantly and a bit of a liability. Needed Terry's leadership.
Ivanovic - 3 - Caught on the break continuously, leaving Cole, Cahill and Luiz exposed. Slow and lumbering. Bossed by Turan's movement.
Lampard - 4 - Non-existent. Not even a hard-working display. Hasn't showed up AGAIN in a big game, showing age.
Mikel - 5 - At least he made tackles. Still slow and lacking and imagination. Dead wood in the middle. Still unconvinced.
Mata - 5 - Comfortable enough in possession, as expected. Not allowed to pick the spaces and passes he usually does due to a static front line.
Hazard - 6 - Exciting when he got it. Tried hard all game. Our best outfield player.
Torres - 3 - Little movement and service. Couldn't hold anything up. Looked uninterested at times. Frustrating evening.
Ramires - 3 - I would have taken him off at half time too. Him and Ivanovic constantly caught out. No flair or show of pace that we usually see.
SUBS
Oscar - 5 - Showed a more physical side to his game that gave me hope his lightweight frame will be fine in the PL. Shame he came on to the biggest of uphill battles.
These might seem harsh to some, but I was so disappointed to see a side so compact and strong at the end of last season dismantled like we were. So slack at the back an in imaginative and predictable up top. Not what we needed after such a positive league start. We needed JTs leadership and I hope they all get a right boll****ng tonight.
LJ
My rating for your ratings -1
By all means elaborate mate. That's just my take - I'd like to know how others saw the game. This is a forum for discussion Nd debate, after all.
LJ
31 Aug 2012 21:41:42
Essien needs another chance, getting rid of him with no replacement is wrong.
31 Aug 2012 21:41:18
Essien to madrid?! Whered that come from?!
31 Aug 2012 21:41:07
No plus points for Chelsea in that disgrace of a match, Torres flat footed again, Mikel/Lampard slow and wasteful, Cech caught of his line yet again, Cole lacking pace it was just an absolute nightmare. Get it into your thick skull Robbie, the 4-2-3-1 does NOT work, Torres is NOT a lone striker, Luiz is NOT a center back and Mikel is NOT good enough for the team!!! scott m.
31 Aug 2012 21:40:11
Cech needs to learn that he can't just hoof the ball anymore.
Jm10
Been saying it for years, a pass back from midfield to cech and cech hoofs it everytime, we may as well have just took a shot at goal
31 Aug 2012 21:39:41
Always said it that our MF is just not good enough for this team. It showed against city then we played against weaker teams in the league which hide the problem. Now we played against another top team who are not even among the elite and we get stepped over, it is a shame that our centre mildfield dont complement the talent in our attack. It's gonna be the difference between the league champions and us come may.(pray they prove me wrong) Dastanj.
31 Aug 2012 21:39:00
Glad that's over, god I hope we get a CM and striker, mikel and lamps, especially lamps to slow
31 Aug 2012 21:37:02
60 mins in and we have been terrible. Just a few thoughts on our squad from me, not everyone will agree but here goes.
Torres: never going to get back his Liverpool form no matter how much we all hope. He works far to hard, running around like a headless chicken. Tracking back all the way to our defensive areas. For example tonight's game falcao doesn't look like he has broken into a sweat but yet he's got 3 goals Upto now( 60 mins). He rarely chases out wide never mind back to defend.
Ramires: possibly one of our two best players last year with mata but yet he's pushed out wide where lets be honest he's awfull. If we keep the 4-2-3-1 he needs to be in before lampard and mikel as a CDM who at times can run forward using his pace coming from deep.
Mata: player of the year last season playing LAM so we put him in the hole behind Torres. Which I believe should be hazards position as he has more strength. A lot of the time mata gets crowded out and pushed off the ball. He is still a great player but would love to see him back LAM.
Luiz: at times great, but more often than not I agree with Gary Neville, he looks like someone is controlling him with a playstation pad.
Lampard: great player over the years but cannot justify playing him on his stature at the club. He is a CAM and if that means less playing time then so be it.
Ivanovic: poor game today but on the whole has been turned into a decent RB.
Terry: lacks pace but we look a lot more solid with him at the back with Cahill.
Cahill: has come in from Bolton and not put a foot wrong for me.
Ashley cole: never seen him have a bad game.
Mikel: squad player for me, hasn't lived up to the hype when he was younger.
Sturridge: gets a lot of abuse from fans on here but yet everyone supports Torres. At the end of the day he's a chelsea player so get behind him and let's give him his chance down the middle. He has more movement than Torres and also a good finish.
Hazard: class
Merieles: not good enough
Essien: if only he could get back to his best.
Betrand: looks an excellent young player.
Oscar,Marin,Moses:all look decent players.
What I'm trying to say is lets not expect miracles from these players straight away. Tonight's game at the end of the day is just a glamourised friendly. Would of liked to see us sign another forward and maybe a holding midfielder but it's not championship manager. But I think a lot of this post is because I can see how talented most of the squad is and certain players ate just not up to the same standard. Comments are welcome but remember these are just my views.
NWBLUE
I agree on most of what you say.
But i think you really underestimate Oscar he looked as one of the best players after he came on. He made the the runs behind players which noone else did on left side (tho they didnt pass it to him) also he makes the most simple and best passes we could ask for he just needs to get adjusted he havent played alot maybe around 90m now.
I do like Lampard but he just dosent cut it he is clearly not good enough for this sort of play style, he needs to be benched he is 34 and should be happy to be a squad player. Instead i would prefer having Bertrand to play together/instead of Mikel depending if we get a DM player, he does need a little time to get used to going more forward that he usualy do.
Defensiv i just think we should stop playing Luiz hes making to many mistakes. Hopefully we can have Cesar as RB and Cahill/ivanovic in the middle instead of Terry cuz i really think he is getting too slow.
Sadly i dont think Torres wil cut it, he runs around all the time defending trying to get the ball by falling back instead of staying and trying to make runs behind the defender for a pass.
And as it is i think we need to get rid of the old guard i dont think they're good enough for such play style we are trying to do, it gets far to slow. Im 100% sure if Guardiola comes (which i hope) he wil bench them and find new and better players.
Torres did not receive the ball all through the first half when he was playing on Godin's shoulder.He looked like a headless chicken running around all over the pitch in the second half as he had to come deep in order to receive the ball that is how bad our passing was and Falcao did not look to break a sweat as he he received the ball with lots of time and space.For god's sake he,Hazard and Oscar were the only one who atleast tried to win the ball.
roan
My problem really with Torres is not his ability but he works too hard. Do not do the midfielders job and stay on the last man. Don't drift out wide as your the one striker. If he wins the ball deep,then who can he pass forward to because there's no one there.
NWBLUE
31 Aug 2012 21:36:17
Weve turned from the best defending team in europe to the worst give hazard oscar back n give me last years team anyday
31 Aug 2012 21:32:34
absolutely disgraceful performance from chelsea tonight, to perform like that as winners of the champions league and to represent themselves like that is just out of the question and i think we have ALOT of work to do and it ain't looking pretty so we can be very thankful for this international break ...
31 Aug 2012 21:26:17
What does mikel bring to the team? Useless
Rofl what are you talkin about he were one of the best players on the team today against AM.
31 Aug 2012 21:23:20
Everyone's raving about signing Falcao, and whilst I'd love him to sign for us we need a CDM as that's where our weakness is. We're not bossing the midfield, our passing has been poor and tackling non-existent. Would much rather CDM atm than a striker.
31 Aug 2012 21:22:40
I reckon we should have done similar to l'pool and played a 17 year old. I reckon we should have played Nathaniel Chalobah, hed definately do better than Luiz or Cahill. Think a risk like that would pay off.
ChelseaL
Your have a job hes on loan
curt
31 Aug 2012 21:22:36
Should have had all our new signings on.
They would atleast try
Bring Moses on
31 Aug 2012 21:20:43
It's the 76th minute and he has made any changes...
Errr.. There was a sub at half time? Or are you playing a game like FM that no one else can see?
Ash
31 Aug 2012 21:19:12
Look Roman we all know your on here most days looking for tips and advice and disagreeing on curt's posts so can you just buy this little Colombian and call it a night!! Deano
31 Aug 2012 21:17:55
Fair play to the travelling fans who spent a grand to be there
31 Aug 2012 21:17:41
All this talk about Falcao and other strikers what we need is a coach. If we had Falcoa today IMO we still would be losing, RDM is just not a good coach. If any player is completely ignoring the game plan and doing his own thing then take him off if he won't listen, otherwise we can assume what we saw in that 1st half is what he thought would work.
If we fans have been saying Ramires is wasted as a winger and not effective there why can't the professional coach who studies game film see it.
Why can't he see that the holding pairing of Lampard and Mikel does not work and Ivan who is not a true RB struggles against pace.
Why is it that our starting 11 only has 1 player that wasn't on the sqaud from last year that struggled to score or keep posession.
I know a lot of u apologists for RDM will talk about D. Luiz's mistakes and JT not playing but this is the bottom line, Athletico's back 4 is not better than ours but they have a better game plan and have more creative and athletic midfield players on the pitch to prevent them being exposed. And the sad truth is that we have good players sitting on the bench.
I thought RDM was making progress last week when he saw the danger of Ben Arfa comming and put Bertrand on his side to help contain him, however a good coach is consistent especially in 1 match for a trophy.
IMO it doesn't matter who joins if RDM can't field the best sqaud. A few Chelsea supporters noticed some of these things during the summer as well as his lack of adjustment/sub when Ivan went off in the community shield but the early wins off Hazzard's heroic efforts drowned out those voices.
FloridaCFCFan
We wouldn't be losing. we would be drawing 1-1
Completly agree its not working at all, and why not bench lampard for bertrand to get a proper DM. Get Oscar instead of ramires for some proper passes and runs behind the defense which Mata should do alot more often aswell as Torres should instead of standing still and doing nothing at all.
31 Aug 2012 21:16:28
Chelsea fan all my life but lampard has to stand down so so slow just put oscar in and ivanovic and mikel am sorry but there just not gud enough it's ok going forward but we leak goal for fun
31 Aug 2012 21:15:54
O MY DAYS!!
It aint that long ago, the mighty chelski fans were like bots on our site laughing off United attempt to win the super cup.
Yes Utd where taught a lesson that night, but Chelski With all there MIGHTY MIDS are recieving more than a lesson!!
Who is laughing now Mr Mighty Blue Fan
Reddevilfan
( ouch it starts to hurts when i laugh )
What did you win last season, oh yeah nothing.
What did you win last season tell me ? carPetman
How many trophies did you win last season?
Alex ferguson nicknames:Alex chewing gum Alex drunk chewer Rudolph the red nosed reindeer Get of this site
They did win the charity shield... ;)
Ash
Lets remember Utd earned there ££££ and then bought into Debt
You lot inherited RA, i would like to say when ya earn your money come talk to me but your Fairy Godfather has paid me to be quiet ;-)
Reddevilfan
PS We did finish above you in the PL, so Domestically thats all i give a S*** about
RedDevilFan - You wanna hear a joke? Goaldifference
JMJW
31 Aug 2012 21:15:39
can't help but revert back to last years excuse for playing rubbish...
"It's a transitionary period"
I hate transition
31 Aug 2012 21:13:41
Ah i know the problem
They still think Drogba is playing for them
31 Aug 2012 21:13:37
Reality check time guys, the sytem does not suit the players we have, Mikel never has and nevr will be chelsea standard, Lampard cant play deep in front of the defence, Terry is the only cb we have who actually knows how to defend and Ramires is not a right winger. Cech has never been the same since his injury especially when going in for one on one challenges.
we need to go back to 433 with a solid midfield who can control the game not just chase shadows
DP
Agreed with everything u said but that is what RDM gets paid to notice and adjust.
31 Aug 2012 21:12:05
Courtois to hand in a transfer request post-match?
31 Aug 2012 21:11:03
What we need is not another striker....but somrone that can win the ball!
31 Aug 2012 21:11:01
Wow you must be proud 4-0 down in 65 mins lol rdm for the backing of the board real soon
31 Aug 2012 21:10:30
Disgraced!!
dejected!!
dissapointed!!
taby
31 Aug 2012 21:08:17
My Atletico strip is in the post lol.
Ofcourse i jest but seriously, how many subs can you make here cause i think we need them all.
Lets recall Courtois now
31 Aug 2012 21:07:23
The chelsea players should use their wages to payback those fans who have travelled to see them. They have disgraced the club and worst of all, they don't even seem to be bothered.
Rowan
31 Aug 2012 21:06:58
Ivanovic has been THE worst player on the pitch! Terrible!
Chelsea Nick
31 Aug 2012 21:06:52
4-0 turned it off now. Too painful to watch
Jm10
31 Aug 2012 21:02:26
Come on Roman Abramovich, you just won a legal fight over £3billion. Celebration in order?
31 Aug 2012 20:59:42
Oh well at least rock bottom is only a meaningless trophy. Let's win the 2nd half.
31 Aug 2012 20:56:40
Three fundamental defensive errors and inevitably three goals.
31 Aug 2012 20:51:17
Atleast we now know why no one rates our chances in the champs league this season
31 Aug 2012 20:47:38
We got absolutely battered with criticism 'parking the bus' no one has mentioned in the media how A.Madrid have sat back.
Lol sat back yet 3-0 down jog on
31 Aug 2012 20:47:22
what a embaressement for Chelsea. we have MAJOR problems in both ends!
Noone is trying to make runs behind the defensive players, Mata,Ramires and especially the " im better than ever Torres" - They just stand still and expect the ball to be played to their feets without the opponents interupt, this is not acceptable and wont work against better teams like AM.
Lampard run around clueless dont defend with Mikel or attack just plays the balls around, he should have been replaced 15min's in for Oscar which is a great at making runs behind the defensve, great passes etc. If lampard dosent play better he shouldnt play at all, i know hes the "old guard" but its just not good enough. i always liked the guy but far from just having he on to letting the team down.
I dont know what to say about the defenders? They dont sprint back when they lose the ball, they arrive then the ball is in the back of the net. They look like they've never played together or is 40 years old.
i would love to have Falcao but somehow i doubt he wanna come now :D
This is based on First half against AM, whats your toughts?
U can't make runs in behind when they defend so deep trig.
But yes Lampard is playing poorly and defensively we are all over the place.
Cfcmatt.
31 Aug 2012 20:47:13
RDM cannot never be the way forward...the earlier his change the better...I wonder what he sees in Mikel, Navy
31 Aug 2012 20:46:45
We desperately need a natural cdm who actually loves a tackle like makelele and the essien of old, it's all well and good trying to prolong franks career but he's just not capable, and don't get me started on mikel! Mvilla
..... Would have been a perfect fit to sit deep and break up play. Deano
31 Aug 2012 20:45:41
Come on roman falcao is world class dig deep from your court case winnings
31 Aug 2012 20:44:19
Words can't describe that first half performance
31 Aug 2012 20:43:33
Chelsea are playing awfully, 3-0 down i dont really see a way out of that. do you think chelsea will make a signing before transfer deadline day has finshed? i sure hope so.
31 Aug 2012 20:43:09
wow it looks like chelsea does not even feeling like playing this game. I have never seen them play this poorly..
31 Aug 2012 20:43:09
Lampard,Ramires,Luiz and Ivanovic are having shockers.The big problem is Lampard ,his passings has been poor ,more often than not he is alongside Torres and hence out of position and we are being caught out time and again in the middle and wide areas.Mikel cannot tackle.Torres and Hazard looking frustrated as they cannot receive passes.
Falcao although has scored three goals has been given loads of time and space to finish and he has been up to the task.
Signing Falcao ,another striker is not the solution as the big problem is in midfield Lampard and Mikel to be exact. They have absolutely no control of the midfield ,it happened against Wigan and Reading and is happening now.
We do not have any width what so ever and therefore are being easily cut out in the middle with our not so great passers in the midfield.
Falcao has had five clear cut chances and has scored three whereas Torres has had none.That stat alone speaks volumes about our real problem.
roan
U are right about us not having any width,ho can we when our only true right winger is on the bench. Ramires, who is not good there keeps going inside and inviting our RB to come down and pass it to Athletico for a 4 on 3 break.
31 Aug 2012 20:42:21
We are playing absolute bs embarrassing
Agreed
31 Aug 2012 20:40:52
Like many other of Chelsea supporters watching the game. I ask, how can we: champions of europe with lots of immense new signings; be ripped apart by one man?
I know it's crazy we can beat barcalona and bayern and we are getting thrashed by falcao c'mon roman 60m bid mate
It's their whole team. They want this more than we do. They get back quicker, win every 50-50, it's not all about Falcao.
Tk
Falcao is ripping us apart he is just doing a very good job at finishing.
We are ripping ourselves apart.
31 Aug 2012 20:39:54
Just watched the first half and I have to say I am more than disappointed. We offered nothing going forward and defensively we were really poor. The start of the season we were going to be challenging in 7 competitions, but unless we improve our performance against stronger opposition, I can only see us winning the FA cup or Capital One cup. I know some may say that it's a bit early to be so cynical about our chances, but we will really need to work on our defence if we're going to compete against elite clubs. All the goals so far could have been avoided if we defended properly.
31 Aug 2012 20:39:53
now will you believe cech is crap?
He's not "crap"honestly get behind the team. carPetman
Its the defence ivan luiz cole not cech wot could he do
31 Aug 2012 20:39:39
I think we will win the league but nothing else.
We clearly cant play cups
Last year proved we can't win cups/
What an person.
Tk
31 Aug 2012 20:39:06
Is anyone still undecided between falcao or cavani?
Ads
31 Aug 2012 20:38:47
falcao what a player only half time has 3 goals. should of signed him last year only 26.5m now worth at least 50m..
Athletico bought him for around 40m Euros...
31 Aug 2012 20:38:21
Falcao has destroyed us with his left foot. Proitos
31 Aug 2012 20:38:18
We look so poor and susceptible on the counter attack every time! Stop pushing everyone forward! Falcao has just been unplayable tonight. Everyone else for Athletico has looked average bar Falcao. No defence could have dealt with him tonight. Get Oscar on for Lampard who is too slow, move ramires in alongside Mikel and push the line back! Pass the ball to Torres to let him turn and try to run at the defence! Keep the defence low and tight and mark Falcao/Adrian out of it!
Still waiting for that late bid for Falcao...
EH17
31 Aug 2012 20:38:04
So £35 mil was to much for falcao but we paid £50 mil for Torres I ain't that gd at Mathis but even I can work out what would of been the better deal! Sign him up tonight roman
Yeah !blame Torres as always Falcao has had five great chances to score and has put in three.Torres has had none, not even a sniff.
The problem is not Torres given the chances Falcao had Torres could have put atleast three of them in.The real problem is in the right wing and in the central midfield.
roan
Athletico Madrid paid about 45m Euros for him and he's improve since then so they definitely wouldn't accept anything less than 50m. Which would leave us with at least one £50m signing on the bench at one point.
31 Aug 2012 20:37:49
Well now falcao price has doubled in 45mins.
And we are still short a forward. Bit of a rubbish deadline day unless we win 4-3
NWBLUE
31 Aug 2012 20:37:45
im not sure the players realised the game kicked off 45 minutes ago
curt
31 Aug 2012 20:37:37
Our right hand side is getting ripped.
Ivanovic all pre-season was awful and he is becoming a liability he always gets caught out and is jogging back, he will lose his place in the team no doubt. As for Ramires....he has been terrible but he is not a RW!
You criticize Brani but make an exuse for Rami? Ivanovic is not primarily a right back remember!
Blue John
31 Aug 2012 20:36:07
why do we insist on playing the ball long and trying to cross the ball into the box, we have no one who can deal with the type of balls we are playing, imo lampard is doing the far to often so him off oscar on rami back to centre mid.
31 Aug 2012 20:36:01
Ramires is having an absolute shocker! You've got to question their desire tonight! Absolutely disgraceful! How much do we miss Terry, in shock at how bad they are!
31 Aug 2012 20:35:43
CHELSEA CANNOT PLAY MIKEL AND LAMPARD TOGETHER IN THE HOLDING ROLES. LAMPARD GOES TOO FAR FORWARD LEAVING HUGE GAPS AND BOTH HAVE NO PACE TO RECOVER. ITS A WASTE WITH RAMERIES ON THE RIGHT. HE SHOULD BE IN THE MIDDLE IF WE'RE PLAYING THIS SYSTEM OF 2 IN FRONT OF BACK FOUR WE HAVE BEEN EXPOSED AGAINST THE 1ST TOP TEAM THIS YEAR. LOTS TO WORK ON.
31 Aug 2012 20:35:30
At least Courtois has kept a clean sheet...
31 Aug 2012 20:35:22
Any chance of us putting in a cheely offer for falcao? BlueTom
31 Aug 2012 20:34:42
WHAT THE EFF IS OUR DEFENSE DOING!! atl is making us look like fools right now.
totally out played in every aspect of this game. its almost embarrassing. i havent said that about us in a long time.
31 Aug 2012 20:34:25
I bet Di Matteo wishes he put Azpilicueta on the bench now, Ivanovic is awful as is Ramires.
This better be one hell of a teamtalk
31 Aug 2012 20:34:13
Please please please roman sign falcao up at any cost still got time
31 Aug 2012 20:33:16
i really hope these are Falcao bye-bye goals
ChelseaL
The way we are looking i wouldnt be suprised if he gets 2 more bye-bye goals.
mikec
Cant abramovic buy falcao before the second half kicks off? this could be embarrasing
31 Aug 2012 20:32:13
Hilarious, players watch midfielders run past them, no one wants to put a tackle in. Every time they attack we are outnumbered. It's lazy, it's laboured, and I'm afraid tactically it's a mess. Embarrassing!
NP {Ed018's Note - Remember it's a glorified friendly}
I dont care what its called this is ridiculous. its still for some silverware and we are playing like its a pre season friendly and we are playing crystal palace. frankly im disgusted.
mikec
I know it's a friendly, but we need to show some pride at least. This is terrible.
It maybe a glorified friendly but 3-0 is an embarrassment. The players don't look like they care either. Maybe I've been stunned into madness by how poor we have been, but Mikel has been our best player so far in my opinion.
Rowan
No ed, its a trophy and we are european champions {Ed018's Note - I'm more concerned about QPR in two weeks.}
To be fair ED. In two 'glorified friendlies' with trophy potential which any club wouldn't turn down we've failed to produce. I am trying not to be pessimistic but what does the rest of the season against big teams hold?
If u think this is a glorified friendly then uve obiviously never played the game.
Cfcmstt {Ed018's Note - your right I've never played professionally or in a Super Cup, but winning the Super Cup no one will care about at the end of the season. I'm more concerned about the trophies that mean something}
31 Aug 2012 20:29:49
Might sound stupid but I honesty believe Mikel could offer us more thn lampard ATM... Lampard looks lost don't defend n his best are def gone! Bring in Oscar!
Wheely CFC
31 Aug 2012 20:27:41
Any chance of signing falcao at halftime so he comes out to play for Chelsea second half? :)
NWBLUE {Ed018's Note - I hope so}
Excelent post!
Made me chuckle!
Luke
31 Aug 2012 20:09:52
Going to be some talk about Falcao now Ed until the window finishes
31 Aug 2012 20:09:43
Falcao is immense
Buy him in January.
Get Oscar on now, we need creativity.
Sev
31 Aug 2012 20:08:24
We've started slowly. Falcao is running it all. Whatever his release clause is Roman, pay it. We need it.
CFCFOREVER!
31 Aug 2012 20:05:57
Theres still time to sign Falcao quick hurry!
31 Aug 2012 20:02:52
Mikel, the only defensive mid to not actually tackle. If they have the ball anywhere near our box he literally just casually wonders round. Forget a striker, I wish we would have bought a decent defensive mid
NP
Would have to say Mikel is one of the few Chelsea players playing ok this game
Dont blame Mikel just cus the others have all played rubbish aswell! Dont just single him out.
Peds
31 Aug 2012 19:57:07
Falcao scored against us....
Scruffy
31 Aug 2012 19:53:52
Looking like we're not going to get anyone
Wild
31 Aug 2012 19:47:46
even though i'm annoyed that Chelsea didn't get Cavani, got to love the way they have done the new contract scenario with him, it is a great video :)
Remy for me though, Schurlle would be good too :)
CFCFOREVER!
31 Aug 2012 19:40:09
i'd love it if cavani's press conference later on turns out to be a goodbye to the napoli fans and he ends up coming here!
31 Aug 2012 19:39:52
Ed0018 just wana say thanks for being honist today im not slatting 002 i know his reasons but he will no longer give any opinion thats his choice but youve been a help {Ed018's Note - Thanks man}
31 Aug 2012 19:29:13
Can a player that starts tonight sign for another team?:)
31 Aug 2012 19:19:51
Chelsea have concluded business for the window in terms of incomings Sturridge will not be leaving on loan and no new striker will be bought this window
31 Aug 2012 19:00:29
studge on the bench tonight think hes a keeper
quite happy about it studge backup striker is better than no back up
plus if he plays striker hes greedy so will shoot instead of passing (sometimes torres passes when he should shoot)
curt
Sturridge will come good one day....
31 Aug 2012 18:59:58
essein and sturridge not in monaco for super cup .......
as both remain rumored to be heading out......
an truth?
samrat {Ed018's Note - Sturridge is on the bench}
31 Aug 2012 18:53:33
If we were to sign a striker would it be between schurlle and remy? Personally I'd like remy considering were in France tonight and what if he turned out to be like drogba? Purchased from marseille. Also we have many French speaking players so he'd fit in rather quickly
31 Aug 2012 18:51:18
Sturridge IS on the bench for the game tonight.
Scruffy
31 Aug 2012 18:33:58
hearing studge and essien out of the team tonight, does that mean moses will feature?
CFCMUNICH1905 {Ed018's Note - Ramires is starting on the right}
31 Aug 2012 18:31:40
Not seen much of this Remy, just watched a vid on Youtube and I do like the look of him. He is fast, good at scoring from set pieces (heading) and strong. Id prefer him over Schurrle if Cavani does not come. scott m
31 Aug 2012 18:31:24
anyone else's eyes glued to a web site to see if theres on us signing anyone?
curt
Yes deadline day is the best! carPetman
Hi curt are you watching a web site mate. carPetman
Ed why does it say a website when i put a web site?
curt {Ed018's Note - I have no clue}
Ed does that when you write sports of sky
Ssn on tv not a website haha
curt
31 Aug 2012 18:31:23
Hi ed018 I know it has been hard for you with all the rumours can I just say I really appreciate all your hard work thanks again.
carPetman {Ed018's Note - Thanks man. Been a rough day trying to find time to do this at work}
31 Aug 2012 18:29:52
turns out we wont need to worry about juventus scoring against us this year they just signed nickalas bendtner
curt
LoL. carPetman
31 Aug 2012 18:24:49
is the constant posts on transfers getting mind numbing for anyone else??
ill change it up a bit line up and scores for tonight lads?
cech
azpil cahill luiz/terry cole
rami mikel
moses mata hazard
torres
lamps and oscar to come on for mikel and mata (give him a rest) during second half maybe give sturridge a run out for either torres or moses
score im going to say 2-0 chelsea
curt
Well it is deadline day!
Keep at it ed018 youre doing a great job and we like your relaxed friendly replies, dont let that other one back
31 Aug 2012 18:17:01
Kakuta gone to Vitesse, whispers from a source in Berlin claiming Schurlle has handed in a transfer request and various French journalists saying Remy wants to join us. The Essien stuff is bull, Everton had a loan bid rejected but I can't see him going. Still maybe time for us to win the Supercup and thrash out a deal with Falcao afterwards ;) we live in hope eh?
Anyway, even if we sign no-one, this is one of the best windows I have seen, Hazard, Oscar, T. hazard, Marin, Moses, Azpilicueta, Musonda. So many amazing young players coming through, come on Chels!!
CFCFOREVER!
Well according to some spanners on here thorgan hazard was brought to help eden 'settle in' not because hes a future talent
but i made a post similar to this earlier saying im happy with the transfer window
curt
He is not helping Eden settle, especially seeing as we sent him back to Belgium on loan. Its not like Eden needed Thorgan when he was at Lille. We bought Thorgan because he is a good prospect. If he develops into as good as a player as his brother then we have got a bargain, if not he will at least be a good squad player or we can easily recoup the £1mil we bought him for.
Rowan
31 Aug 2012 17:55:08
I for one would rather give Piazon and Sturridge extra game time if we are not going for a player of the quality of Hulk or Cavani. Remy does not seem a significant improvement considering he will cost around £15mil and given the time to develop I can see both Sturridge and Piazon surpassing him in ability.
Rowan
31 Aug 2012 16:43:24
ED018 the club are discussing letting Essien go to arsenal on loan that leaves us Mikel and a out of favour Romeu for the CDM position we really are short in that department {Ed018's Note - Time for Ramires to move back into the center}
In all honesty melbourne told me earlier barcas buy back clause ends next summer so expect to see romeu played a hell of alot more next year when we dont run the risk of losing him
curt
31 Aug 2012 16:24:33
Would love cavani but apparently he signed new contract, falcao never gonna happen, don't like though of loaning rival clubs players like Essein and Sturridge, dunno how true rumours r but remy and shurrle would be nice, mattM
31 Aug 2012 15:56:33
Something has to be going on because as our squad stands we are short up front. Never mind with Sturridge being heavily linked with a move away. Eds would you say it's too late for a cavani/hulk type player to come in now.
NWBLUE
31 Aug 2012 15:54:17
Think Chelsea have done their business for the season, don't think anyone will come in today....up the Chelsea !
31 Aug 2012 15:53:38
Roman Abramovich just won his court battle, so that's settled now lets get CAVANI :) (I know not related but great news)
31 Aug 2012 15:47:23
I don't want Shurlle
Go tell the clubs management. I'm sure they'd be fascinated by you view on the matter. Considering your expertise..
Ash
Good thing this player doesn't exist then.
31 Aug 2012 15:22:05
So AVB signs Dembele and Moutinho and leaves us with Meireles, thanks.
Who cares? Hazard and Oscar or Dembele and possibly Moutinho. I know who I'd rather have.
CFCFOREVER!
Oh definitely really happy with who we've signed my point was that Meireles was a panic buy but our signings are better than Spuds.
Mereiles is better than a lot of EPL midfielders in the premier league. To be fair he isn't too bad at times.
EH17
31 Aug 2012 14:56:30
In reply to the comment to my last post : I am sorry mate! The UEFA Europa League group draw is now over. i thought Falcao, who was at the Europa League group draw, will not be participating in today's match. But now, since the draws are over, i think he will be playing today. i even forgot both the group draw and our match is at moscow, and hence travelling will not be an issue.
silv3rzz ; )
The game is in monaco mate
curt
Tonight's game is in Monaco.
IB.
Oops sorry again! : P
silv3rzz ; )
Yep the game is in Monaco meaning that he will probably not be travelling, playing and hopefully signing a deal with a club i.e us.
No need to apologize mate its an honest mistake
curt
Curt, why is there always someone that finds a reason to disagree with you?
Ash
Because there allowed to leave the underside of there bridge for the day (troll's for anyone who doesnt get it)
curt
31 Aug 2012 14:54:14
Edison Cavani has signed an extension with Napoli until 2017. Deal said to include 60 million Euro buy out clause to protect his value amid interest from European footballs top clubs. From BBCs James Horncastle, their Italian football correspondent.
Blue25
Thats funny, Football Italia know nothing about it and neither do anyone else.
Napoli have a press conference scheduled for tonight, Horncastle is normally reliable when it comes to Italian football matters. Just posting what I read. Not sure anything is going to happen with Sturridge leaving/strikers coming in now.
Blue25
Not what Football Italia say, they said they will announce 2 new signings, Giandomenico Mesto from Genoa and Sao Paulo's Bruno Uvini.
Fair play.
Blue25
31 Aug 2012 14:48:08
does the italian transfer window close at 6pm?
Yes but we can still buy players from italy until ours closes
31 Aug 2012 14:44:44
Looks Like Leandro Damião. Liverpool believed to be in talks. Would love to sabbotage the move.
CA Blue
31 Aug 2012 14:26:31
Moutinho to spurs for £22million. Surely this was not the fee Porto told Chelsea, was it ED? I thought Porto had overpriced him but this seems like a bargain {Ed018's Note - I'm sure it would've been more for us}
I know i couldnt believe it when i saw it
there happy to drop over 8 million pounds for moutinho but they wouldnt drop a couple of million to let us sign hulk
RIDICULOUS
curt
ED018 reports say malaga are in talks to sign romeu from us have you heard anything? {Ed018's Note - I haven't heard anything on this yet}
Chelsea would not be willing to sell mate. He is seen as a big part of our future!
Melbourne CFC
31 Aug 2012 14:14:08
I believe Roman will trump Levy today we have to steal Spuds' thunder. Come on Roman make this Cavani deal happen!
31 Aug 2012 13:53:53
Dont get too excited lads, rdm his self said a few days ago chelsea are to sign any futher players and the focus is the super cup he is very happy with the team
31 Aug 2012 13:48:32
Only 9 hours left now getting worried, can just tell Torres will get injured straight after the Window if we dont buy anyone.
Scruffy
31 Aug 2012 13:48:05
a mancini gives the quote of the day he says 'manchester citys champions league group is one of the easiest' i really hope they take a hammering like they did last season in may i add an easier group
curt
31 Aug 2012 13:38:49
Right if spurs brought moutinho for 22million how comes we were quoted near 40
Porto hate us they always mug us off big time, look at Bosingwa for starters!
And £13m for Villas Boas' compensation
ChelseaL
31 Aug 2012 13:16:52
Does anyone know the amount required for barca to but back Romeu?
Pint of Stella and a packet of dry roasted! Not good enuf! Not mobile and lack pace!
KevinCFC
Oh wow your first negative post kev why dont you just do one
original poster i believe the buy back is in the region of 9 million dont hold me to that though
curt
Isn't there an expiration on the buy back, so soon they wont be able to?
I think you might be right probably the end of romeu's contract with us
however im not sure one of the eds would be able to give a better answer
curt
The buy back option expires at the end of this season. I believe the fee would be in the 7-9m region.
Melbourne CFC
^^^^ there we go theres your answer and speaking from expierence melbourne is very reliable
curt
31 Aug 2012 13:30:03
Torres, Schurrle, Piazon, Moses will be the striking options this season. Schurrle, Piazon and Moses can all play somewhere in the supporting 3 too. Decent flexibility and options. I prefer the signing of Schurrle to Hulk and Cavani. He is younger and has big sell on value in 4/5 years whereas Hulk and Cavani in 4/5 years will be 30/31 years with far less sell on value. Plus Germans are awesome, always. - James13.
31 Aug 2012 13:24:06
ED002 and ED018;
The both of you are legends. Looking forward to this season more than any other in the last few years. Thanks for all the hard work.
ELI {Ed018's Note - Thanks man}
31 Aug 2012 13:01:38
Why dont we just sell sturridge, torres wont get injured.
curt
Why dont you just stop pretending to be me?
curt {Ed018's Note - My bad Curt. Hectic day}
Ed018 i said before its not your problem mate :D
its the very small amount of immature people left here still
curt
31 Aug 2012 12:42:22
Why did the game have to be today
What to watch tonight ( game or chelseatv for transfer deadline day )
Mmmm can see a lot of channel hopping tonight
31 Aug 2012 12:52:14
Falcao is at UEFA Europa league group draw. So dont get too much excited, even if you dont see his name on Athletico's team sheet.
silv3rzz ; )
What does that actually mean mate?
I am sorry mate! The UEFA Europa League group draw is now over. i thought Falcao, who was at the Europa League group draw, will not be participating in today's match. But now, since the draws are over, i think he will be playing today. i even forgot both the group draw and our match is at moscow, and hence travelling will not be an issue.
silv3rzz ; )
Oops. correction again! both are at Monaco, not moscow.
31 Aug 2012 12:50:17
Itd be a disaster if we got Cavani. Neither him or Torres could sit on the bench. We need a striker who is happy to do that. TORRES is our main man.
And who exactly is happy sitting on the bench?
31 Aug 2012 12:26:59
Schurrle is considerably cheaper than cavani or hulk and is far better, more versatile and has more international experience. Why dont we just buy him.
31 Aug 2012 12:15:14
Cavani, hulk, jovetic or schurrle will be signed after the game today, no need to worry people
Trueblue012
31 Aug 2012 12:14:58
would everyone be happy if we dont sign anyone today ?
yes we need a back up striker but if sturridge does stay he will be enough until january
on the bright side we signed one of the biggest and sort after players in europe at the moment in eden hazard (dont know why i needed to name him) we also got a great steal with marin and very talented young right back in azpilicuetta a also very talented right winger in moses (something we have lacked for years) and also an up and coming future star of the game in thorgan hazard
personally i think we have done very well and including the youngsters we have ready to come through the youth system our future is very bright indeed and the future of football is deffinately blue
all we need in january is a striker and perhaps a defensive midfielder because if romeu starts playing and playing well i can see barca activating the buy back clause however with mikel progressing game by game we may well be ok with him there
finally next summer (yes i know im thinking far ahead) i think all we would need is a natural left winger to give us different options during games and arguably a covering centre back because terry isnt getting younger
would love everyones opinions (only if you have something to say that has anything to do with the topic)
curt
Thorgan Hazard is not 'an up an coming future star' he just is Eden's brother and therefore helps with his settling in process.
What even though eden himself has said thorgan is the better footballer
why would chelsea waste a million pound so eden can 'settle in' dont be a spanner
curt
Chalobah will be Terry's long term replacement.
Does anyone know what amount Romeu's buy back clause is.
If Thorgan was so much better than Eden why is there a 31 million pound price difference.
Curt you missed one of our brightest stars..... Oscar. People have forgotten him already, he and Eden are easily gonna be one of the best players in the world in the next couple of years.
ELI
Ok spanner, you forgot about Oscar and with all the cups we're chasing what happens if either of our 2 strikers gets injured?
Because we want eden to do well and feel good.
what's £1 million to a club like chelsea?
Ah yer ELI tragic how did i forget that one thanks for pointing that one out
person saying about price difference thats now thorgan is younger and hasnt developed yet
curt
31 Aug 2012 12:07:18
Ed052 says Sturridge loan to l'pool is done
Jm10
Is he usually reliable?
Blue25
Chelsea must have someone lined up if there letting sturridge go, i would be shocked if they havent
31 Aug 2012 12:05:09
Wonder after his successful court case, Roman will get his cheque book out and put in a sneeky bid for David Villa. I know hes just back from injury but he's experienced, scored at the highest level, wouldnt cost a bomb after injury and at 30 years old i reckon he has atleast a few top class seasons left, also he is not exactly 1st choice at Barca atm.
ChelseaL
No, wouldnt want that
31 Aug 2012 11:57:03
dont think Sturridge is leaving, he's been walking around Monaco with the team this morning, i know his agents could be doing something. But i doubt he would be with the team if he knew he was just about to leave.
ChelseaL
The deal prob wont be done untill after the game just so he can get 20 mins on the pitch and another winners medal.
Blue con
He better make most of winners medal if he is to join Liverpool. Won't be getting another any thine soon
31 Aug 2012 11:41:05
I expect no further signings today, and tbh, i am fine with that, for once we did the much needed business early on
Jm10
31 Aug 2012 11:40:37
No-one will be coming in today,and sturridge will still be a Chelsea player come 11 pm .
31 Aug 2012 11:00:43
The god that is mr abramavich just won his court case!
Get ur wallet out roman!!!
Needs to celebrate by buying neymar
31 Aug 2012 09:35:50
Ed, am I right in thinking we will know about Schurrle by 12? The german transfer window closes at midday right?
Thanks,
NP {Ed018's Note - I'm not sure when their window closes}
Turns out it does close at midday, but that is for them buying players. They are allowed to sell players to England up until our window closes, so looks like it will drag on all day unfortunately
NP
I believe they have to of transfer listed any player/s by midday and all paperwork must be handed in by 6pm.
Van Der Vaart is still sorting out a transfer to hamburg so it doesnt matter, it will go on until 11
31 Aug 2012 09:31:28
ED018 how do you think Lorente will fit in at Chelsea?If Cavani,Scrullre and Hulk are not feasible then I would like the club to move for the player (class player would complement Torres and provide us with another option).
roan {Ed018's Note - I'm not the biggest fan of Llorente}
31 Aug 2012 09:54:24
Chelsea need a striker they are confident that will come on for Torres or play along side him and do the business, I dont think Schurrle is the answer.
31 Aug 2012 09:20:13
I reckon Chelsea have been playing their cards very close to their chest, if Rogers is very confident of getting Sturridge on loan, we must have a striker lined up for sure. I really hope we go all out for Cavani today, he would be the icing on the cake for us. The style he plays and work-rate would suit our new look team and should he play 2nd striker to Torres he would cause lots of problems for any defense. Schurrle in my eyes is still too young and he hasnt had as much success at Leverkusen than he had at Mainz. Cavani has the killer instinct and would complete us this season and for the future. Fingers crossed!! scott m
31 Aug 2012 09:07:07
Ed, does Sturridge have a year left on his contract? If so loaning him is insane... Like an early free transfer with us paying the wages... {Ed018's Note - Yes one year}
Same with benayoun! i cant for the life of me understand it!
31 Aug 2012 07:49:06
Guys listen to this, Liverpool fans have quoted their price tags for some of their players:
Raheem Sterling=30 mill pounds
Andy Carroll =20-25 mill pounds
I mean this this is beyond delusional.
Apparently they are signing Lorente now as they think FSG are doing things in secret (probably doing"secret dark alleyway deals").
Also nobody has got the wind of their transfers deals and they have gone from a definite top 4 to title contenders.Every tom ,dick and harry they sign is a great bargain buy(probably a bargain buy like Caaroll).All the out going players are sh**e and have never played football in their lives.
Another fact has come to light is that they do not play "tiki taka",but a new"pass and move" brand of football,I suppose it is an advanced version of "tiki-taka".
I mean this is not even funny anymore .
Wonder what ed018 thinks about this?
roan
Haha. Because they absolutely destroyed Hearts last night didn't they.
Delusional.
IB.
That Carroll price makes me laugh, but tbf to Sterling he impressed me vs City. I reckon by Christmas Sterling will be worth at least £15m. Shame he plays for a shocking team who will never again win a tidy trophy. Should come back to London and play for the Mighty Blues!!
ChelseaL
Why are you so worried about other teams, it's game time i.e time to support our team
Trueblue012
Pool could take some tips off of psv eindhoven 14-0 on aggeragate OUCH
curt
31 Aug 2012 09:17:56
right id be peed off if we get schurrel! he not an out an out striker! we dnt need another winger we got 30 of them!!!!. personally i dnt think we will sign anyone 2day.
players i would like today moutinho,m'vila and cavani. anyone of them 3 would be good
kevinCFC
Thats unlike you to be negative kevin
curt
Give it a rest kev, I think people are past caring..
Marley
31 Aug 2012 09:10:16
I'm sorry but this makes no sense to me what so ever. Selling/loaning Sturridge to a rival because maybe schurrle is coming in. That's just puts us back in the same position. Lewandowski and schurrle would be great.
NWBLUE
31 Aug 2012 09:05:52
Looks like you EDs don't want the Chelsea fans to knw the truth regarding all the crap on this page. Some arrogant non-sense Liverpool supporters are destroying this page and you don't want to do anything.
Sky Blue
31 Aug 2012 09:05:43
Hopefully the window will shut before the stupidity of this Sturridge/Schurrle deal can be completed!
Am I the only one who thinks a Torres, Sturridge and Lukaku strike would look pretty good right now!
31 Aug 2012 08:35:58
Hulk has writen on his offical ,i can confurm i will be staying in porto next season
That was always happening
curt
31 Aug 2012 08:32:15
Shurrle is a young player who is a striker but is better as more of a winger and has good potential.,.so why again are we buying him and getting rid of studge?? I'd maybe sell studge n try for cavani than shurrle and maybe sell mereiles and Essein and yossi and malouda and try for gd CM like m'villa or witsel.
Mattm
31 Aug 2012 07:26:37
Marin, Hazard, Oscar, Moses, Azpilicueta and Thorgan Hazard.
IMO that is a great group of players, and even if we do not bring in anyone today it has still been a fantastic window for us.
31 Aug 2012 02:58:12
Will ed02 be around tomoz to help out. Really could do with her input but Ed18 been great {Ed018's Note - He said earlier that he might be around near the end of the window if he gets time}
31 Aug 2012 02:16:57
Ed there are various reports saying that if chelsea sign a striker then sturridge will be allowed to go out on loan. I have also understood that sturridge is in the final year of his contract. I'm I right? If yes shouldn't chelsea be looking to sell him rather than allow him to go out on loan, which would mean that he can leave for free at the end of the season when his contract expires? {Ed018's Note - yea, a loan wouldn't make much sense as i'm not sure how negotiations would go if he was out on loan}
31 Aug 2012 02:02:25
Predictions for the game tonight boys. 4-2 Chelsea for me. Striker to sign before deadline!
Melbourne CFC
I'm thinking 3-2 Chelsea, I expect it to be close, atletico to really push for it. Hazard, lampard and Torres to score.
Devon.
31 Aug 2012 01:45:28
Hearing all this stuff about schlure come to chelsea on twitter i bloody hope not i would prefer a strong and PowerFull player like Falcao or hulk. {Ed018's Note - Hulk has said he is staying at Porto and Athletico have have said Falcao is not for sale}
31 Aug 2012 01:42:47
signing schurrle then loaning sturridge is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. people have been complain about our lack of forwards and that would put us back in the same exact position as we have been
cali