Chelsea Banter Archive December 30 2018

 

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30 Dec 2018 19:19:52
Just my opinion on the CHO moving to Bayern. If I'm honest I think he will go if a bid is accepted. my reason for this stems back to pre season. He was heads and shoulders our best player, the media, the manager and all of social media hyped him up. I believe he probably expected to get more game time because if it, and rightly so. and then a massive anti climax, to barley feature for the first team at all after some amazing performances. He probably feels "what more could I do" couple that with Jadon Sancho breaking into the England squad and our history of, I guess hindering youngsters coming in leaves me to believe he is off. I, myself feel he should have been given more time, he absolutely proved himself in pre season. Don't get me wrong I'm not a football manager nor do i know what goes on behind closed doors. im just a fan looking from the outside but If your good enough your old enough. I really do feel we have a world beater, superior in talent than Sancho but I also don't blame the lad if he does move on.

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30 Dec 2018 20:42:02
I’m not sure he is good enough YET but I would like to see home given more match time as the season progresses.

Also I would like to see him on the pitch with the first eleven not players who rarely make the team. If that makes sense.

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30 Dec 2018 20:52:07
i think wel all be fairly gutted if we lose another superstar.

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30 Dec 2018 21:49:38
I take your point Magic but I do think he has a long way to go before being called a superstar!

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30 Dec 2018 21:52:27
Very good post. CHO showed in pre season that he can mix up with the best, he was one of our best players back then. In my opinion, he is more than good enough to play. he is a special talent. I don't understand how he isn't seen good enough and why Willian is constantly favoured over him. He needs a chance. This one will be biting us up the back side really hard if he leaves. more than others because as fans we all know his got it all.

Our track record for young players is abysmal. RLC is literally forcing himself to be picked, he can't do anymore than score goals and probably has more goals than the other CMS put together and yet his not a starter?

I think as a club we are poor at integrating young players into main team and are more inclined to buy players that other clubs develop.

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30 Dec 2018 21:53:21
Will he really be guaranteed more game time at Bayern?

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30 Dec 2018 22:17:22
I would have to say yes, he would. the German league is less competitive, yes bayern are not in the best of form granted but with their aging wingers there is definitely plenty of opportunity for him.

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30 Dec 2018 22:17:58
Jeremie boga was our best player pre season with conte and where is he now, let’s not judge “ superstars “ in meaningless pre season v unfit squad rotated players, CHO can be good player but we haven’t seen near enough to know for sure, hopefully he stays and turns into a sane sterling type rather than a kakuta or boga.

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30 Dec 2018 22:18:11
I think they see him as replacing robben/ Ribery. Plus the German league is so much easier and he will become an 80-100 million star there.

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31 Dec 2018 00:18:14
Matt Martin, what you’re forgetting is momentum. Boga has momentum and had that stripped when cahill got stupidly sent off against. Burnley opening day.

We can’t play CHO with the bench players and say he isn’t good enough when the team struggle. He’s someone that could come on and make a difference in the 60th minute when Willian needs a break. We need to see him on the bench from now on with one striker and 2 mids. We don’t need two strikes or 3 midfielders or 4 defenders on the bench. It’s vital.

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31 Dec 2018 10:33:25
Boga had enough momentum when played week in week out on loan, I see no superstar, and I don’t want to hear that championship or lower leagues doesn’t help players, mount does ok and dele Ali was a star at mk dons, we have a tendency to over hype our young players, it’s about attitude, as much as skill, I think he will stay and fight personally, or sign a deal and go Germany on loan to get regular time, win win.

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30 Dec 2018 18:43:51
Since we've been linked to Callum Wilson I have tried to keep an extra eye on him. I've now seen the light and don't want Chelsea to go for him. Few people on here said no to him and I thought he would be good but I've made a U turn on that,

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30 Dec 2018 19:11:28
Lol what's the night then?

Tbh Bournemouth won't sell unless we pay a ridiculous amount. I think Higuain is the cheapest and safest option unless the club's surprises us and signs a real world beater.

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30 Dec 2018 19:40:07
lol the light is his not an improvement on what we have and it’ll be a big transfer fee that could go on a winger, so same money maybe Pepe Thauvin ( maybe bit more ££ ) or go towards a Cesc replacement?

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30 Dec 2018 21:59:06
I agree mate. I would rather Mitrovic than Wilson at the moment. But obviously Higuain over both.

I have to say this though. boy how much I miss the Guvnor 'Diego Costa at his best is unreal, he was my personal favourite at the club. He could score all types of goals, right foot, left foot, headers, tap ins, overhead kicks and long range curlers

Another Diego Costa esqe player is required. Are there any other strikers in world football like him?

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31 Dec 2018 18:40:48
I think Icardi is the answer you’re looking for Shak.

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31 Dec 2018 21:48:05
Shevchenko / Torres - never buy a player who has had a serious, career-threatening knee injury - will we never learn!

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30 Dec 2018 17:41:57
Everyone in the media loves Pochettino - 'he's doing such a good job' - 'doing a brilliant job without spending any money' - 'Mauricio, we love you kiss kiss kiss'. May I remind the Spurs sycophants that going into 2019, we are only 2 points behind you - yes, in the spirit of this time of year: BEHIND YOU.

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30 Dec 2018 19:13:32
Not just that Darren, they love him and have gone to the extent of saying Spurs are the biggest club in London. Not only are we two points behind, we have won 2 leagues, fa cup, league cup etc whilst poch has won a big fat ZERO with a very good team.

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30 Dec 2018 19:22:34
yes we are there about to enter a brand new stadium with a fantastic squad which theyv spent very little assembling and aren't in fear of there only star being sold like us because they have more dan 1 star. if hazard goes our team is bang average. wev an agening team with willian pedro david luiz giroud fabregas cahill etc. my opinion is spurs are in a much better position than us right now as much as it gauls me to say it.

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30 Dec 2018 22:08:18
Don't worry Magic. This will be sorted by the next two windows mate.

Regardless of the above, we have more quality than spurs all day long. It's just a striker that we lack. Our team is quality.

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30 Dec 2018 21:55:32
Can't wait to do them again in the semi-final lol lol lol.

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30 Dec 2018 21:57:39
Magic, that was kind of the point I was making - for all their positives and all of our deficiencies, we are still only 2 points behind them.

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31 Dec 2018 09:49:35
i no what u meant mdw just saying they are in a far betrer position than us over all. i think they have 3 really top cbs in alderweirald vertonghen and sanchez. deli alli ericksen son kane . 7 absoloute top players . theyd walk into our team. we can't say the same . hazard or kante are d only 2 whos walk into der team. i think once there stadium is sorted and they start spending theyl go up a level again. not sure about us our transfer action last few seasons has been absoloutely embarrassing buying bamg average players even 31 year old bench players off teams like arsenal is just embarrassing for a big club like us.

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31 Dec 2018 12:52:00
Ummm, not sure about only Kante and Hazard - I would include Azpi, RLC, Kepa and I think Rudiger is better than Sanchez - also, in Ampudu and CHO we have 2 potentials that Spurs can't match.

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30 Dec 2018 17:57:28
I fully maintain that when fit Loftus-Cheek should be a guaranteed starter at LCM. Not one other player in this squad can give us what he can. Barkley done nothing wrong but the sideways passes were boring. He looked scared to put a foot wrong.

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30 Dec 2018 18:05:56
I agree mate, Barkley seemed really fearful of doing something wrong which restricted him massively today. For me RLC has to play when fit.

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30 Dec 2018 22:01:06
I think Barkley is trying too hard to stick to Sarriball and not losing possession - I remember him at Everton being a maverick, taking players on, shooting from ridiculous angles - he needs to get back to that. (And staying out of pubs and nightclubs would help! ) .

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31 Dec 2018 09:51:04
its fair enough he doesn't want to lose a ball but id be all for him having a pop more . i would say anytime he had the ball yesterday to be fair der was 3 or 4 players in front of him he never at any stage of the game had 2 yards of space to shoot into.

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31 Dec 2018 12:53:24
But he seemed to be playing deeper than Kante from the off - all very strange.

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30 Dec 2018 16:50:58
Just wanted to add a shout out in praise of Dave's performance and tracking energy levels today. He does seem to be getting back to best. Missing accuracy of crosses still perhaps, like the ones that used to find the head of Morata (tricky when Morata not playing, or playing so poorly as when on pitch today! ) . But energy and determination in tracking, tackling and blocking great again.

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30 Dec 2018 17:35:18
On top of this a big shout to Luiz who in my opinion has been top draw this season so far.

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30 Dec 2018 17:51:21
Got to hold my hands up he was very poor start of season but he’s proved me wrong since he’s back to being Mr. Consistent again.

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30 Dec 2018 19:19:53
Dave was superb it’s not many times you play palace and was Saha playing. Felt Barkley did well but I agree he needs to go forward more. Thought Willian and giroud were our worst two players.

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30 Dec 2018 19:23:16
hes always top tbf.

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30 Dec 2018 22:09:12
Giroud was unlucky. He scored to perfect goals.

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31 Dec 2018 21:50:31
Perfect except for being offside.

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31 Dec 2018 12:54:06
CFCShak, Luiz has been good (if we blank the Spurs fiasco from our brains) - but I still believe that he is an accident waiting to happen and hold my breath every time the ball goes near him in our box.

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30 Dec 2018 16:18:47
Not because he scored but kante was the best player on the pitch today shout out to Luiz for his passing throughout the match
I thought we looked tired today
But 3 points in the bag
Question for you boys out of the top 3 who would you prefer to win the league if it isn't us I hate all 3 but I couldn't stand it if Liverpool win it
Klopp is possibly the most annoying contrived geezer on the planet.

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30 Dec 2018 17:00:57
City, I don’t know any of their fans so don’t have to deal with any gloating!

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30 Dec 2018 17:17:17
Same here City for the same reason As JD.

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30 Dec 2018 19:23:40
city definetly. i despise liverpool and spurs.

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31 Dec 2018 00:22:33
Definately not the scousers, had enough of them winning everything when I was a youngster. Actually don't mind spuds winning it as they were my dads team. And man city winning anything doesn't upset me in the least,

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30 Dec 2018 15:55:41
Dave Aspi - a World class performance today - put Zaha is his top pocket in the first few minutes and never let him out again.

But it is coming to something when our main goal threat is N'Golo Kante!

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30 Dec 2018 16:59:55
Agreed and had done a post praising Dave - not yet up as I write this - and then read your one! Giroud unlucky not to be on score sheet today to be fair, but Morata looked poor when on and we do need to strengthen that threat with proven striker in January as we'd all want given Morata's form this season and Giroud not usually scoring many.

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30 Dec 2018 15:44:48
Anyway guys,

So in terms on incomings who do you think will be arriving in January or who will we agree deals on for the summer?

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30 Dec 2018 16:51:24
Hopefully Higuain I’d be over the moon if we could just get him in. I’d love to see us go after Chilwell but Sarri’s love for Alonso is worrying so that won’t happen. If we could get Higuain in keep Hudson-Odoi and start playing him and Emerson more I think that could make a big difference. Really don’t rate Pulisic.

Outgoings:

Moses
Cahill
Drinkwater
Morata
Fàbregas (If we can find a replacement)

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30 Dec 2018 16:53:56
Would think Higuain or Callum Wilson if a striker comes in January. Pulisic an outside chance but more likely for summer window.

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30 Dec 2018 17:19:11
I hope we get Higuian as a short term fix. We desperately need a striker.

See I actually like Pulisic, last year he was really good, he would suit the Sarri press really good.

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30 Dec 2018 17:53:25
Can see Kovacic and Pulisic both agreed but for the summer.

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30 Dec 2018 19:26:07
id take higuain 100 percent. he can't be worse than what we currently have. morata looks absoloutely hopeless and zero confidence. giroud id keep as a squad player sub that's it. tammy doing well at villa im wondering after his season at swans last year do if he's a championship player.

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30 Dec 2018 14:06:14
Very big win today.

Rudiger was excellent as was Luiz.

One big question from me is, how do you guys watch the game and give running commentary posts?

Happy New Year to a all the posters and the Ed's.

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30 Dec 2018 14:29:44
Agree. Thought we dominated but if I’m picking faults we never get anyone speeding to the byline to get crosses in the box. Giroud and even morata are excellent in the air and we are not playing to their strengths so it’s no surprise they are not scoring as many goals. So many times we have good play to get to opponents box and then slow down leaving the opposition to organise themselves. We played well in terms of possession but we are our own worst enemy and do not attack spaces in behind often enough.

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30 Dec 2018 14:45:21
NWBLUE, teams can play against us with a very narrow defence.

I agree we do need wide players with chalk on their boots. It would help if they had pace and can cross as well.

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30 Dec 2018 14:46:05
i usually send mine in at half time over a cupa tea tom.

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30 Dec 2018 14:55:21
Two lumps for me Magic!

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30 Dec 2018 14:55:59
Half time usually Tom.

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30 Dec 2018 15:07:21
More tea Vicar!

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30 Dec 2018 16:33:16
Personally, I thought Azpi was our MotM today - he had Zaha in his top pocket from the off and kept him there.

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30 Dec 2018 19:26:38
would u like your tea bag left in the cup tom haha.

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30 Dec 2018 20:45:22
OMG no magic but a drop of scotch would be nice.

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30 Dec 2018 13:54:37
Performances need to improve, but palace really didn't play for anything but a draw, need goals in the team, let the rumours begin.

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30 Dec 2018 14:00:31
I would have been gutted with a draw. We did't offer too much ourselves barring possession.

We were robbed of two clear goals which were ruled offside. VAR needs implementing as soon as possible. Disgusting officiating from the linesman.

It was a lethargic performance overall but we won. Shout out to Luiz who was immense in the 2nd half. He stepped up.

We deffinetly need a striker if we want top 4. Morata seemed so disinterested and was only in the squad due to Pedro and Odoi's Injury. It's clear he has no future and Chelsea don't want him injured so they can offload him.

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30 Dec 2018 14:20:30
I've tried supporting Morata, and I've really been hoping that he'd turn good. But this has got to stop. Today, he looked like a guy that'd been on christmas holiday for three weeks and whose mind hadn't returned from holiday yet. Off with him in January, hopefully, and PLEASE let's get a great striker this time, or at the very least give Michy a fair chance.

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30 Dec 2018 14:51:56
I will always defend every Chelsea player.

So, I’m perplexed that Morata and Alonso get constant pelters.

For me, we don’t play to our forwards strengths and while I like to see more of Emerson, Alonso is always picked by Sarri so I will respect the managers decision.

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30 Dec 2018 15:09:10
Morata deserves to get pelters mate. Nobody should warm up with his hands in pockets. His performance on the pitch was a demonstration of his poor warm up. So disinterested. He should give his all on the pitch when he wears the shirt. He should not sulk.

I don't think we support every single Chelsea player because they play for us. It's clear Morata wants out, he don't care anymore and as a fan it's disgusting to see. It's funny because his never had a club that plays to his strength. What is his strength is the question. The quicker his out the better.

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30 Dec 2018 15:24:25
All about opinions Shak but I would love to see him in a team with wingers who can go on the outside and can cross a ball.

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30 Dec 2018 15:42:28
It's more his attitude that frustrates me Tom. Today he came on with the wrong mentality and attitude. However, that shouldn't surprise me because it is Morata afterall. Seeing a player show a lack of interest kills me. I can accept Alonso and Willian being poor currently but they don't show a lack of interest.

Im glad that as a club we will cut our losses and get rid of him in January. He surely doesn't suit our clubs mentality. His not the warrior type.

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30 Dec 2018 16:00:22
Lack of effort makes every fan angry and he certainly shows his feelings and sometimes his frustrations.

I guess for me are any of those frustrations in anyway justified.

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30 Dec 2018 16:45:05
Yeah TomB - we should bring Tony Hateley, Peter Houseman and Joe Fascione back!

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30 Dec 2018 17:14:20
Hatley was truly awful but Houseman was one the crossers of a ball our club has ever had. Can’t remember the other lad.

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30 Dec 2018 12:22:58
David Luiz passing hasn't been good so far, alonso's reaction hasn't done him any favours and has to be careful for 80min, Williams first touch was back to a palace defender and Giroud is acting like a pinball as every touch is trying to first time pass to hazard. his strengths holding the ball up. I worry that palace sit too deep and we start getting further and further up and leaving space for a counter.

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30 Dec 2018 12:50:11
Trying not to be negative but I really don’t rate Jorginho at all. Hoping for a better second half!

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30 Dec 2018 12:58:44
Hopefully Sarri can up the tempo, it's been slow so far. Won't mention the players because Matt has already done that. But Barkely needs to play further forward, it seems Kante is doing that a lot more than him.

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30 Dec 2018 13:00:20
Games like this kov could play that role, at least he would break forward and take players on, boring boring watch that half, why doesn’t willian try take his man on. And watching Giroud makes me want morata on, and morata on makes me want Giroud on, nightmare lol.

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30 Dec 2018 13:08:22
KING KANTE.

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30 Dec 2018 13:09:53
jorginho has done well defensively in 1st half he's decent but i wouldn't take kante out of his position for him.

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30 Dec 2018 13:10:14
i mean i would play kante dm not jorginho.

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30 Dec 2018 13:10:16
A lot better luiz, and a player running from deep behind, got the goal this time but at very worse it forces palace to defend the ball and stretches, need more direct play, movement off the ball, Alonso made a brilliant run when luiz found kante,

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30 Dec 2018 11:50:26
Worried again about the lack of rotation in the backline but positive thoughts only. Good to see Ampadu on the bench, presume CHO is still injured. Hoping for a morata rebirth.

KTBFFH.

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30 Dec 2018 11:12:04
I really don’t understand how CHO is not good enough for us but Munich want him.

Just play the kid for god sake am more interested in bringing the likes of CHO, loftus jay dasilva mount than watching Willian.

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30 Dec 2018 12:44:37
Madrid wanted Josh Mceachran, his playing for Brentford and isn’t there best player, just because big teams want a player doesn’t always make them good enough. Solanke wanted regular football or more football and his not shinning or making an impact,

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30 Dec 2018 13:53:44
Too soon to bring up josh Matt.

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30 Dec 2018 14:35:18
OK, Solanke then!

The grass isn’t always greener!

Anyway, I think CHO will stay and play for the Mighty Blues.

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30 Dec 2018 22:05:13
I remember Barcelona being interested in Carlton Cole when he was about the same age as CHO - difficult to assess an 18-year-olds development.

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30 Dec 2018 08:15:45
Just a bit of fun here to see in the new year, with a few winter and summer signings (semi-realistic), after seeing half a season under Sarri, how would you like to see us line up next season?

Here's my 1 - 11.

Kepa

Azpilicueta, Rudiger, Christensen, Chilwell

Kante, Jorginho, Loftus-Cheek

Pulisic, Richarlison, Hazard.

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30 Dec 2018 12:09:01
If it's just a bit of fun .

De Gea

Kimmich Koulibaly Ramos Marcelo

Saul Kante Milinkovic-Savic

Salah Kane Hazard.

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30 Dec 2018 13:54:57
Kepa
Azpi Rudiger AC Alonso
Isco Kante Loftus-Cheek
CHO Hazard Willian.

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Review Of The Day 30th December 2018

30 Dec 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 30th December 2018

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30 Dec 2018 00:02:52
How long has everyone been on this site for? Just quite interested, me myself have been on the page since 2012 but under a different alias, a name I won’t be sharing because I was 12 then and had views of. well, a 12 year old. Was far too young for the internet but here I am as a matured 19 year old lol.

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{Ed0333's Note - there’s plenty of adults on here that have views of 12 year olds mate.

30 Dec 2018 01:35:06
Been on here for too long mate. Forgot my alias and password on a few occasions. But this one here to stay.

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30 Dec 2018 03:14:01
Hahahaha all too common on the internet.

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30 Dec 2018 08:08:07
Been using the alias J. for a couple of years. Been using the site for many years, since it was just football rumours and not split for different teams.

Back then it's was much more - 'my mothers, brothers, cousin knows a man, who goes to a butcher, who also sells meat to Eden Hazards cleaner who has been told the Eden is staying at Chelsea next season.

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30 Dec 2018 09:00:59
Lol j. Good to see you still around.

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30 Dec 2018 11:37:53
Been on this site for a couple of years I think or perhaps three. It's sort of become a ritual that I check the site once every few hours, some would perhaps even say that it's a small addiction ;)

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30 Dec 2018 11:51:14
Emil I’ve recentky deleted all my social media due to an addiction, this website did fly under the radar however .

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30 Dec 2018 11:55:29
Been on here back when it was just football rumours, remember sitting on it back in history lessons at school when I was very young! I'm 25 now so that tells you how long it's been haha.

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{Ed001's Note - now I feel old!!!!}

30 Dec 2018 12:112:08
J, I am posting that Hazard rumour to other sites!

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30 Dec 2018 13:55:36
Long time Saim!

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