Chelsea Banter Archive September 02 2015

02 Sep 2015 23:23:56
Sorry to bother everyone again but interestingly djiboloji has been left out of the champions league squad. wondering what u all think of that.

02 Sep 2015 23:51:35
A lot centers around the facts that we can reconfigure our squad after the group stages and the fact that our group is rather tame. I'd rather be able to play traore and Kennedy to help them develop. Especially when you consider their opportunities could be restricted in the league with our poor start.

03 Sep 2015 00:27:50
Papy will be used more in league games. Maybe paring with Zouma in pre-CL games. He could be sad about that cause he join us for playing CL. But Chelsea will pass the group stage for sure and after that Papy can be registered for the knock out stage (if he gets on well with the team and has good form).

In the scout report, they mentioned that he need to improve his passing and techniques. Maybe he need to be trained to improve those things before his CL debut.

03 Sep 2015 02:00:50
We're only allowed 17 foreign players in the squad for the Champions League.
Foreign players: Courtois, Ivanovic, Azpi, Zouma, Rahman, Mikel, Ramires, Matic, Pedro, Oscar, Hazard, Willian, Kenedy, Traore, Remy, Falcao, Costa.
HG players: Begovic, Blackman, Terry, Cahill, Cesc, RLC.

We have enough cover defensively to get by, but I do think he should have gotten a place ahead of Traore. If only due to poor start we've had, and the fact that Ramires, Remy and Cesc have all played as AM's before.

02 Sep 2015 18:45:47
So without specs on. Quick banter lads?

Kenedy 7 mil
Martial 36 mil

To me Kenedy looks a steal, could honestly see this lad being the real deal and don't know how we got him on the cheap certainly as good as martial. Guys, Ed018. Your thoughts?

{Ed018's Note - Kenedy looks like he's got some good potential for sure. At least it's good to know that with Cuadrado and Moses out of the picture he will definitely get some minutes this year. Martial is a player with good potential as well but certainly not worth the money United forked out for him}

02 Sep 2015 22:49:23
The deal for Martial will never be considered a 'steal', even if he lives up to his potential. It's just such a big commitment to a teenager who, while talented, only scored something like 11 goals in all competitions last season. Luckily for them, United can pretty much pay whatever they like as their revenues are insane.
Both players look very good though, and I think Martial is going to be the better player out of those 2 in the end. However, Kenedy could be really useful and didn't cost nearly as much.
I think both teams did well :-) and I look forward to seeing more of Kenedy in blue. He looked a real energetic player against Palace and I love that attitude.

02 Sep 2015 23:16:13
Although I think Rahman and RLC should play vs Everton I think the likes of maybe Aina, Rahman, RLC, Kenedy and Traore will get to start vs Walsall.

02 Sep 2015 23:30:14
I really hope so Magical Eden.

03 Sep 2015 06:55:19
I don't think we can criticise Utd that much for paying over the odds for martial when we recently spent 30m on Willian and 23 on cuadrado. I would rather spend big money on a young player with big potential than older players that have pretty much reached their peak who are never going to be world class.

03 Sep 2015 10:03:17
Jackson, why do you think Martial will be better than Kenedy in the long term? Both players are young and will develop but £38m rising to £50+ is a massive gamble on Martial.

03 Sep 2015 13:29:30
I am siding with Mrs Costa here Jackson. True we do not know who will progress in the future and Martial has already got a massive mill stone around his neck with high expectations whereas Kenedy will be allowed to develop at his own pace. Martial was a prolific youngster but has dropped away in senior football with a scoring rate just shy of one goal every five games which is not £36m+ performance, played in a moderately competitive league in front of small crowds. Kenedy similarly has played fewer games albeit another prolific youngster and quietly comes to Chelsea for £6.3m and little pressure. I obviously hope all good footballers succeed but my money is on Kenedy.

03 Sep 2015 14:25:22
Fair enough, Mrs Costa and Frensham. Who will turn out to be better, it's in no way possible to predict. So we can only say what we think will happen :-)
I just think Martial will be better because I think his close control is better than Kenedy's, and Kenedy seems to be very one-footed (is that a word?). And perhaps most importantly, I think Martial will get a lot of time on the pitch to develop, whereas Kenedy will have to wait his turn a lot.

04 Sep 2015 08:51:23
A certain Mr Messi is totally one-footed as was Maradona!

02 Sep 2015 21:13:34
Just wondering where we're at now with our CB's and what everyone's opinions are on them. Are we now at that stage where Zouma is our best CB? I think we are. Terry's experience and leadership alongside him is invaluable but as for one on one defending I don't think I've seen much get past Zoom Zoom. Obviously he's still a little rash and early when entering a tackle and he sometimes mistimes his headers but that's just down to his age and inexperience I think. I feel a lot safer with Zouma CB instead of Cahill. And his pace is a fantastic asset for us. I think we've got a world class defender in the making. What's your thoughts everyone and Ed?

02 Sep 2015 22:52:33
Zouma should start right now, IMO at least. And I'd let Cahill partner him for now. They looked quite secure against Palace and I'd stick with that.
That said, I'd also like to see a little bit of Djilobodji. I'd never heard of him but I'm curious as to how good he is. Lots of people are saying Chelsea got a bargain in getting him. Looks very athletic and strong and I love that in a centre back.
Looking forward to a defensive lineup of Azpi-Happy-Papy-Baba :-)

02 Sep 2015 23:27:02
Agree on some parts Jackson. Still think Terry needs to play for our leadership at the back. Cahill isn't a leader at all.

Not overly convinced on Papy. He should by no means be chucked in the deep end anyway. He should maybe start alongside Cahill against Walsall to see how he does.

Still hoping we go for Laporte next summer of he plays well next year. Him and Zouma could have quite the French partnership. It's also a bonus that he's left footed which would give us the right/left defensive combo.

Let's face it Stones won't happen now. I think way too much has gone in between the clubs this summer to ever broker a deal for him in the future. He's got Man United written all over him.

03 Sep 2015 08:23:33
Laporte would be amazing but I've read on different occasions that he's keen on a move to Barca at some point. If that's the case I hope we stay away.

03 Sep 2015 10:09:16
I'll be keeping an eye on Reading this year - I have a feeling that Hector may be the real deal.

03 Sep 2015 18:08:46
I don't think he should stop being rash. He times his tackles well, and also his jumps.

02 Sep 2015 14:46:51
Ed, with a lot of players again going out on loan (33 I believe it is right now), a lot of prospects from the U21 team of last year left the club temporarily. One who has stayed with the club is Charly Musonda though. Yet he was one of the standout performers for the youth teams last season and the U21 coach (think it was him) recently stated that Musonda was too good for that level right now.
What is the plan for him? Did they think he'd gain more from staying with the 1st team, or did they try to get him a loan but did not succeed at that?
I'd hate to see him stall as he's perhaps our most talented prospect. Any reply would be greatly appreciated!

{Ed002's Note - I am really not hip to what is happening with the youngsters but training with the first team, an occasional cameo and playing for the U21s makes some sense.}

03 Sep 2015 09:07:49
Yeah, I figured but since he sometimes trains with the 1st team I thought it was worth a shot to ask you :-)
Thanks, Ed.

02 Sep 2015 16:29:45
Bit of fun.

But Papa Djilobodji is decent on fifa 15 lol

78 overall

Power free-kick , 90 strength, 91 aggression 86 slide tackle lol

Let's hope ey 😂😂

02 Sep 2015 17:34:03
I don't think his name helps does it 😂😂 he could turn out to be a good find though.

02 Sep 2015 14:16:45
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Middlesbrough Transfer Round Up

02 Sep 2015 13:17:01
Steve Parish showing how a chairman should act when a player wanted by a club signs for a larger club. Have to say they have done very good business this window, like Palace as a club so hope they have a good season! (Taking more points off our rivals as well!). Also think that considering we only had ten men for around 40 minutes, our result against Swansea was a very good result. Another good team this season, really rate Monk as a manager and dod some very good business this year!

02 Sep 2015 13:56:47
I like monk. But I feel as if he can't really be judged becuase Swansea are one of the most well run clubs in the country. It'll be interesting to see his managing skills when they go through a rough patch!

02 Sep 2015 11:00:31
International break will do cfc good in my opinion the players looked knackered against palace a few might get rested
Other than courtois hazard and matic and super dave the others aren't nailed on starters for the countries could be wrong
So hopefully all comeback injury free and up for it
Wouldn't mind a few of cities players picking up minor knocks

02 Sep 2015 02:34:19
Hey Ed001, just wondering if we cracked the million page hits again yesterday, and if so by how many?

Thanks as always for your input during the window, much appreciated. Keep those podcasts coming! Really enjoying them

{Ed001's Note - not sure mate, we no longer get analytics from our hosting company unless we pay extra for it. The only things we get are from advertisers now, who all provide a small amount of analytics, though they are not given on a daily basis. I will only know on Monday how well the sites did. I don't think we got up that high though, it was a bit of a damb squib of a deadline day, so nothing to bring in the page views from new people searching for info.}