Chelsea Banter Archive June 02 2012

 

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02 Jun 2012 22:11:26
He wants go to spain in 3 years he's never made that a secret blow offs.

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Well considering were going to be the new barcalona ina few years he might aswel stay with us saves him moving house again :D

curt

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Jealous manc

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02 Jun 2012 22:10:00
What's up with all the Chelsea fans? Not big in up hazard much ! He was crap tonight

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No ,no, no you nameless duck. Crap is Caroll in a liverpool jersey!crap is anderson in a man u jersey ,crap is Also Walcott every time his on the field. What you morons don't get is that Hazard is just one player, and the fact he didn't cut through the english defence or score a splendid goal doesn't mean he didn't play well.he made good runs nice touches and a wonderful self control and pace. With experienced and top players (no offence to the Belgium lads who played today, I thought they were great) around him he would be worldclass. Try watching Messi in Argentina he never plays as well as he does in Barcelona. Same with most big players. Just give him two seasons and I promise you all would crawl back into your holes. Jealous Crazies.

ELI

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Hazard created the most chances in the match (6, double the amount of any England player) and I doubt he wants to get injured before his move to Chelsea in a non-important game.

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Not like hazard was playing with class in his team, belguim loads of pottential but dnt play as a team

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02 Jun 2012 22:09:54
32Mil for that

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And you support?

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He's clearly a Chelsea supporter.
AnfieldUSA

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02 Jun 2012 21:41:30
Only discovered these forums a short while ago and have swiftly become an addict, logging in at least once a day to get my fix. Just want to say firstly thanks to the Ed's for their good work under sometimes difficult circumstances, I've moderated forums myself, I feel your pain with some of the questions posted :P

Just wanted to put my 2 cents in on where Chelsea stand and who we may add to the squad. All of this is correct to the best of my knowledge, I stand to be corrected on it though.

Taking into account the rules for squad registration ie; 25 man squad, 8 homegrown players, players under 21 dont have to be registered etc ....


Current Chelsea squad: (HG = Homegrown)

GK: Cech, Hilario, Turnbull (HG)

LB: Cole (HG) Bertrand (HG)

CB: Terry (HG) Cahill (HG) Luiz

CB/RB: Ivanovic, Hutchinson (HG)

RB: Ferreira

DM: Mikel

CM: Lampard (HG) Ramires, Mereiles, Essien

AM: Mata, Malouda, Benayoun

ST: Torres, Sturridge (HG)

Im aware some of these players can play in more roles like Frank who can play attacking mid, I just put them into these categories to make it easier. This gives 21 Players, 8 of whom are homegrown.

Add to that squad:

Courtois, Josh, Piazon, De bruyne, Kakuta and Lukaku. All qualify as under 21 and therefore do not have to be included in the 25 man squad but can still be picked.

The only 2 that I can 100% see either being sold or not used are Ferreira and Benayoun, although Mereiles, Essien and Malouda have all been spoken about possibly leaving. It also seems that most of the under 21's players I named will be going out on loan, I certainly think that Courtois, Piazon and Lukaku will benefit from this, but i'd like to see Josh brought into the first team now as cover for Frank. Kakuta either needs to step up to the big reputation he arrived with or be sold in my opinion, i was so excited when this kid finally signed but he's not lived up to the hype as of yet.

All in all this leaves us with no real right back (Ivanovich is happy to cover there but wants to play primarily as a CB) and light on numbers in midfield and up front. We have made one signing so far to resolve this in Marin, who looks a good player, but probably wont walk into the first 11, but for circa 8 million (I think) and only 22 years old he looks a good bargain, possibly the only time we will say that this summer looking at some of the other price tags we have been linked with. Of these it seems that Hazard (32 million) and Hulk (38 million) are all but done deals, however, until July 1st comes and I see the player holding up the shirt, anything can happen.

We have been linked with a few right backs and strikers but I have decided not to go into that as it would all be purely speculation, of which there is already plenty on this site ;)

So, a realistic squad as I see it for next reason as it stands is:

GK: Cech, Hilario, Turnbull (HG)

LB: Cole (HG) Bertrand (HG)

CB: Terry (HG) Cahill (HG) Luiz

CB/RB: Ivanovic, Hutchinson (HG)

RB: ? to be confirmed ?

DM: Mikel, Romeu (U21)

CM: Lampard (HG) Ramires, Essien, Josh (HG, U21)

AM: Mata, Marin, Hulk, Hazard (possibly qualifies as U21 player)

ST: Torres, Sturridge (HG), ? to be confirmed ?

21 players + 2 U21, 8 homegrown + Josh. This still leaves us alot of room for additional transfers and alterations to the squad on top of Marin, Hazard, Hulk.

Courtois, Piazon, Lukaku on loan. Kakuta to be given a chance or sold. Malouda and Mereiles probably sold, but may stay as squad players. Essien kept as squad player.

My only opinions I will give are that I am currently an extremely happy blues fan, champions of europe, and with the apparent signings of Hazard and Hulk to complement Mata, Marin, Torres, Lamps etc it all looks very exciting, that win in Germany meant so much more than just the cup with the big ears, with no CL this year Hazard and Hulk wouldn't have happened. I have no doubt that the right back and striker roles will be filled, but if I'm honest I don't know much about those we have been linked with so far. I really don't want to see us going for Modric again this season, a good player yes, but not worth being held ransom to by spurs again, plus his arrival would dent the chances of Josh getting a look in this season. I believe Romeu offers us a good defensive midfielder option and I'd personally play him ahead of Mikel next to Frank in a 4-2-3-1, Barcelona wouldn't have put a buy-back clause in his contract if he didn't have some potential. With a RB and back-up striker I feel we have a squad packed with youth and potential to go on challenge for honours for years to come and the likes of Lamps to help guide them.

I shall now shut up as I just realised how long this post was getting ....... sorry Ed :D

*throws in 2 cents*

PieZ

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In all fairness PieZ have u ever heard of "long story short"? Keep it short and sweet and your get a lot more comments and replys.

FT9

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I know that my post was rather long, for that I apologise. This is my first real post on these forums and I had alot I needed to get off my chest, largely due to the number of idiots I have seen posting their drivel on these forums, they shall remain nameless, for now. I simply hoped that some would read this and realise the error of their ways, ie; Some calling for Terry, Lamps and Cole to be sold, not only is this ridiculous due to their abilities and importance to the team but we would also lose 3 homegrown players off of our roster. And the fact that Brani doesnt want to play RB even though many many people have him in their teams as right back, or my favourite one that still keeps popping up; 'We should sell Bosingwa' ..... *facepalm*

I guess I was trying to 'summarise' where we were at. I also rather like longer posts myself as they tend to go into better detail and description that the usual comments you see of 'Hazard was s**t' giving no reason or explanation for this opinion. My intention was not to try and get alot of replies and comments, merely to put the record straight as I saw it. I feel my only mistake was thinking that our local person brigade would have the mental fortitude to read a post more than 5 words long (not a dig at FT9 by the way)
So yes, apologies it was so long, I didn't mean to bore anyone :)

PieZ

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02 Jun 2012 21:34:28
If Hazard and Hulk do join Chelsea is anyone else a bit sceptical about their defensive capabilities. If Chelsea start Hulk, Hazard, Mata and Torres in the team and lets be honest none of these will look to defend does anyone else think we will be a bit open down the flanks leaving our fullbacks vulnerable. I havent actually seen much of Hazard and Hulk but i dont see them putting in a shift and helping out when we need to defend. Thoughts guys?

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Im no great tactician, but I'd imagine the fullbacks will be slightly more restrained and the 2 'holding midfielders' will come across to help cover. But no, I wouldn't expect a massive amount of help in defending from those 4, we may be going for the old we will score more than you ploy :P

PieZ

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I think that's a good thing because we have always concentrated on defence first which will make a refreshing change to the way our football is played.Im sure Torres will be on fire next season with the pace and quality we are adding to our team.Would love to see fellani brought in,he's a right handful and can also be really dangerous going forward and for set pieces.
Cech
Ivanovic Cahill. Terry. Cole
Fellani
Ramires. Mata
Hulk. Torres. Hazard

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Fed up with defensive football ALL OUT ATTACK! especially against the stokes, wigans and norwichs!

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I think this will effect the other players across the pitch. The centre backs won't have to push forward to try and provide a spark. The full backs will be more defensive minded. And you won't see the centre mids bombing forward as much. This will mean rami won't make nearly as many long distance runs at goal and will be able to focus his energy on breaking up the other teams play. This will hold true with whoever plays next to him.

Tk

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Good job we didnt sign them for left and right back then

curt

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02 Jun 2012 19:32:31
When can players out of England make their transfers? {Ed001's Note - international transfer window opens July 1st.}

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02 Jun 2012 19:58:31
What did we think of hazards display then?
Nice one touch passes made good runs off his pass never got the ball played back think he will help nando alot

Carefree

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Exactly what I was thinking Carefree. Was about to post the same thing. I think him, Torres and Mata would play very well together. His touches, pace and Finesse were great . I think if he plays with our lads he is certainly gonna improve immensely. certainly a star in the making.

ELI

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Exactly what I was thinking Carefree. Was about to post the same thing. I think him, Torres and Mata would play very well together. His touches, pace and Finesse were great . I think if he plays with our lads he is certainly gonna improve immensely. Not being biased he is certainly a star in the making.

ELI

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He was good at wat he did, played alot better when lukaku came on & he went out wide deffo a winger, & not cenral, tht central spot is matas

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02 Jun 2012 19:44:59
Ed what did you think of Hazard in the Belgium and England game?

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02 Jun 2012 18:19:34
Chelsea team in 2 years

Courties
Ivanavic Subotic
Walker Coentrao
Mikel Milner
Hulk Mata Hazard
Torres
Subs
Turnball
Cahill
Ramires
De Bruyne
Marin
Dembele
Sturidge {Ed018's Note -

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Where have you got subotic walker conentrao and milner from please?

curt

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We would never sign walker stop playing fifa

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Mikel and milner over Ramires. Seriously worried...

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That's a good 1. Thanks for the laugh.
AnfieldUSA

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02 Jun 2012 18:10:07
Chelsea will tur into one of the best attacking forces in the world with the players that are ment to be signing this summer. Hulk, Hazard and Marin already signed with Milner, Powell, Dembele, Lucas and Falcao meant to be signing. This already adding to Torres, Mata, Lampard and Sturidge. But with players like Drogba, Malouda and Kalou all moving on these are exciting times for Chelsea!!!

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Where have you got milner from ?

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Powelle deal is nier if not done with united,milner? Where the f*** u get that from?

Carefree

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Dont think milner mate, what planet you on ?

Jm10

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We dont want milner ! the f*** is wrong with people. mikel an milner LOL that is a midfield to be laughed at. were a top club not an average club & ramires on the bench?? ivanovic is older than cahill so hes hardly the future. personally sturridge is s**t BLUEBOY1

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02 Jun 2012 17:46:10
Come on hazard ive just stuck a tenner on u for the 1st goal
12/1 not bad

Carefree

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Would of helped if he turned up for the match he was poor

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02 Jun 2012 16:07:29
as always this is an exciting time of year, but theres a couple of things that should be considered. firstly, its great to see new players arriving but you have to question whos making the decisions. i would much rather see a manager in place before any new signings. as it stands the budget could be spent before the new manager comes, whos then left with players he may not have wanted. could you see mourinho or ferguson at a club with a big budget but having no say on how its spent.
secondly, itseems to be a lot of people saying we should sign this player or that player, take moura for example, how many people have actually watched anything other than a you tube highlights reel and everyones saying hed be the greatest signing ever. the same pretty much goes for hazard, although i would much rather see hazard playing for us. dont get me wrong, im not saying hazard is a bad signing, hes got massive potential although not quite the finished article yet, the same goes for moura, but lets all get off the hype bandwagon without really looking at these players.

fingers crossed things will get sorted out soon, the situation just doesnt quite sit right at the moment

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Hazard not proven ??? player of the year in his league 2 years running and hes only 21 youngest player to win player of the year in france last season 20 goals 16 assists if the new manager dont like it then dont agree to manage our team i agree mouras not proven hes only played in brazil HOWEVER if hes got potential we can make him a better player just remember lamps was nothing when he joined us

curt

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The board blatantly saw we needed wingers and they are on the verge of signing two who been the best in their leagues for two years, so really it's a no brainier. If di Mattel stays kalou would be our winger lol. If a new manager comes in and says, Mikel, Essien, lampard, meireles out then hell make his own signings, and how do u know someone ain't choosing the players, stop being so negative about the board

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Kalou wouldnt of stayed hes already been released

curt

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02 Jun 2012 14:25:33
Here is a picture of Hazard and Hulk posing with the new Chelsea shirt. Hazard looks ok but Hulk seems to carrying a few pounds :d

http://p.twimg.com/AuTkT8lCAAAfR8H.png

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Lol XD

Yeah, Hulk definitely looks like he could lose a few pounds.

roweycfc

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Thats because hulks a beast not because hes fat look at roberto carlos he used to run around on tree trunks

curt

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Curt u clearly didnt look at the pic
Dont mug urself off mate

Carefree

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I didnt need to look at the picture i was stating that hes a beast so people saying hes fat wether hes in the picture or not i dont really care so be quiet carefree your normally talking b*ll*cks anyway

curt

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Yea corse mate! There u go again mugging urself off!

Carefree

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Well the pic is a fat man there for ur implying hulk is fat there for i was saying no hes just a beast like roberto carlo was running around on tree trunks quite honestly why im getting into this with such a complete kn*b as urself stop talkin s**t none stop and in reply to ur newer posts remove ur tounge from hazards ar*e please no1 wants to see that

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02 Jun 2012 13:18:25
i cant wait for the premier league season next year where do you think chelsea will finish

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I think we'll win it. I never do Outright Winner bets before the season due to the waiting 9 month for more often than not a smallish return, but you can get Chelsea as big as 6.2/1 in places now, If you ask me they are HUGE odds and will definitely come right down to 3's or 4's once transfers are confirmed. I've backed this heavily and have got every faith come end of season i will have a nice return

SHED END

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I think for most Chelsea fans for the season we've had we would take 3rd and then the season after expect more, it will take time for the new system to work I just hope it doesn't backfire.
It is fundamental to get top 4.

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I think we are gnu start a little bit slow with all the new signings but once everything starts kicking into gear we will be relentless.I would say Chelsea and City will battle out first place with United who can never be left out of a title challenge..

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Yea looking like some big signings coming in but just remember not every 1 settles into prem as quick as mata did im guna go 3rd next season 1st 13/14

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Shed End says you're going to win it? It's nice to be positive and it's normal to be hopeful' but come on' get a grip

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Puzzled f**k off better chance of winning it than ur lot go back to your own page and see what s**t ur team is throwing money at to sign
we could easily win it next year

curt

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Puzzled I think there's better odds that we win the thing than you getting top 5 next year. Your teams a joke. Go home we don't want you here.

Tk

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Puzzled, why are you not getting it. You're minnows now, we are the Champions of Europe, you are not worthy of bantering with us anymore so noone takes any notice of what you say, you had your chance in the FA Cup Final and failed. You need to start bantering Sunderland and Fulham mate, you keep making yourself look stupid

SHED END

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We've got more chance of winning the league than you do of finishing top four puzzled. Why don't you bother obe of your rival teams? Sunderland perhaps?

Roweycfc

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Your only chance is of defending the title of being COC holders mainly because no1 else would want to win it anymore

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Puzzled,puzzled,puzzled. What part of :-we don't speak to COC holders don't you understand. I know you want to mingle with high class teams like us but we're not interested, try mingling with your own class, okay.

ELI

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Puzzled u not wandered why we dont banter on your page no more? Cos were far beyond u now mate ur not on our level, it would be like bullying the fat kid as school

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02 Jun 2012 12:26:05
Hello ED,
Read some articles about Hulk and i learnt his favourite jersey number is 12 which is more like a trademark. So am wondering if Chelsea is able to sign him will Mikel be offered another number since de no.12 is not much of a trademark for Mikel.
Nii Arday {Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge of or interest in shirt numbers. Sorry.}

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Probably will let him take it whos mikel to argue its same as henry with 12 or 14 beckhamwith 7 and 23 etc

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I dont agree with players coming in and looking for a particulur numbered shirt.. they shud be greatful for getting a shirt at all

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Its not like there demanding it some people might just be superstitous its hardly affecting you if he gets the number 12 shirt

curt

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02 Jun 2012 11:56:20
Depending wear hazard plays today either middle left or right I hope he has great game and gives world class players like cole terry cahill the run around, let's see how good he is

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02 Jun 2012 09:13:03
Is there any intrest in Marek Hamsik?
What a player.

Cech

Iva cahill terry cole

Ramires hamsik

Hulk Mata Hazard

Torres

Play this team at home and away swap rami or hamik for dm if necessary. Hamsik very quick and powerfull, could also play where mata is if necerssary.
What a team. We would have a great squad with, lamps, debruyn, paizon, josh, bertrand, hutch mikel, romeu, merilles, lukaku, sturidge, essien, luiz
Etc
Gonna be storming it next season.
Up the blues
Luke

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Question why have you put hamsik as a holding midfielder ???

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Read the rest of the text you lemon!
Luke

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But you clearly put him as a holding midfielder and he wont take matas place you lemon

curt

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Hamsik won't join Chelsea {Ed002's Note - Hamsik has signed a new contract at Napoli.}

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We dont need him

curt

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I dont think people understand tht bcuz thr in the 2 central positions doesnt mean thr holding mids, we shouldnt even play holding mids at home games

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If we play like we need last season we need 3 holding mid players

curt

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You need to play 2 deeper players when you have an out and out attacking front 4! Look what happened to Napoli when they're attacking 3 lost the ball, they were broken against and didn't have the defensive midfielders to drop back and defend! You can't have 5 attacking players that don't get back, you'll score lots of goals but conceed, a bit like the old Madrid!

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Ok, ok! Not the most deffence minded team. People are putting lampard next to ramires in the team. Whats the difference? If anything hamsik gets up and down the pitch a lot quicker. Box to box like rami. And the reason I said he can play in matas position is the same as mata can play in hazards, and studge in hulks. Its called squad rotation And we could do with a player of his quality. Are bench used to be that of the equvilent of another prem 1st choice. We showed at times we didnt have the squad depth. that is why I would like to see hamsik playing at chelsea. Another quality addition
Luke

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Lamps has proved he can play defensively

curt

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02 Jun 2012 03:17:51
One reason to be happy Bosingwa has left .... we no longer have to listen to Jamie Redknap calling him BosWINGA.

PieZ

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Haha so true!

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01 Jun 2012 23:11:48
Roman isnt going to be stupid and spend all that money and get kicked out of europe becuase of the FFP so let him spend his money and rebuild the squad which i think i great what chelsea are doing.

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Fifa fair play doesnt need to be concerning you at the moment eds already said that

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02 Jun 2012 00:52:42
Think the attacking formation of Hulk, Mata and Hazard playing behind Torres will be the best in the Prem by far but will soon be challenged when City begin their money spending spree!

I believe we should stick with Torres and not bring in a new striker unless he is young and for the future. If he puts the effort in Torres will be back scoring goals sooner than you know it due to the creativity/flair of the players behind him, this will increase the amount of throughballs and crosses played to him and hopefully lead to more goals.

Davies

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Yes we are pretty good up front but we should sign atleast one creative midfielder...!!

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One creative midfielder ?? are you being serious ?? mata hazard can create hulk can bang them in hazard last season like 20 goals 16 assists but no your right we have no creativity

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And remember Rami's ability to play there if necessary and score goals, as well as KDB coming in at some point with some creativity. Even Malouda as cover. I think we're set for the roles behind the striker if Hazard and Hulk are confirmed as expected.

LJ

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02 Jun 2012 00:42:17
Hey guys, anyone know where i can watch england vs belgium thats pretty reliable? Im i australia l, so if people from europe suggest tv channels that wont work :p
Jono

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First row sports

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I always use firstrowsports.eu Jono. Works a treat for all sports. Melbourne CFC

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Put firstrowsport into a search engine

Carefree

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Melbourne, dude where have u been?! you Missed all the fun.

ELI

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Thanks guys,
Jono

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Ha Eli mate, I sadly am not always around a computer. The fun was well and truly enjoyed on this end buddy, WE ARE THE KINGS OF EUROPE. It will never get old.

Melbourne CFC

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02 Jun 2012 00:27:32
My Chelsea 2012-13 squad- formation (4-2-3-1)

Cech

Van Der Weil/Ivanovic, Luiz/Cahill, Terry, Cole

Ramires/Lampard

Hulk, Mata, Hazard

Torres

Wouldnt mind bringing Falcao or Cavani as a Striker or Modric as Central Midfielder.

Even though i would love one of the two strikers to join i believe we should stick with Torres as he would be able to feed off the creative/skillful players we have in Mata, Hulk and Hazard. On the other hand i also believe we have great backup in the names of Sturridge, Lukaku and Marin who are also all young, enthusiastic and skillful players.

On the Modric side i believe playing the formation (4-2-3-1) would mean Modric would have to play defensive midfield where i dont think will be his strongest position and he would not live up to his suspected price tag of at least 30 million. Also Mikel was an unsung hero especially against Barcelona and Munich, Ramires has been incredible all season and Lampard is an obvious Legend for the Blues so therefore it will not go down well if he is dropped. I believe all of these players deserve a chance before we replace them as they have all been good in their own way this season.

Davies

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Looks like 10 players, unless you meant to put a comma between Ramires and Lampard

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Yeah sorry was supposed to be Ramires, Lampard

Davies

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01 Jun 2012 23:08:12
Lets say chelsea has top defence and great GK(its covered no one new needed next season)
A good attacking option in Torres(old form and all) and have MATA/HULK?/HAZARD behind him.

But the flaw is the link (ramirez okay) but who else (lampard is almost done) and no youngster stepping it up to the mark yet.

So i understand that the transfer business is not done....but if i am the boss i would invest there not buy hulk(sturridge/marin) and just really invest in my link....or else its no difference its pointless buying....any thoughts anyone?
is anyone coming?

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We have romeu in dm and piazon in am coming up

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McEachran will come good! He would have showcased his talent at Swansea last season if not for the unbelievable, and unexpected, form if the Icelandic kid last season! This year on loan and getting some real game time then he'll come back and into our first team!

Surewould

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Better idea sell josh and sign gylfi sigurdson :D

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