Chelsea Banter Archive September 29 2015

 

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29 Sep 2015 21:45:39
i am seriously getting sick of ivanovic. all the beasty things he has done for us in the past season is being ruined by this guy's current form. he's gone absolutely rubbish. he must not start against southampton. come on jose drop him for once in your life.

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29 Sep 2015 21:54:16
Trying to forget about our result and problems so just watched arse game. Why buy Cech and bench him? They are terrible which cheers me up because I really don't like those twats

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29 Sep 2015 21:52:51
This page is so depressing. Time for another break from posting lads. I hope you're all far more positve and objective people in real life and don't approach the world the same way you 'support' Chelsea. When it suits you. Would wish everyone a happy rest of 2015, but its painfully obvious you lot will be whinging long into 2016

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29 Sep 2015 22:14:15
Cheers mate thanks, come back when we get back in the top 4.

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29 Sep 2015 22:21:20
Oh come on, Melbourne :-) I know you're right, it's been negative on here recently. But that's to be expected a bit, no? The results have been bad and the Premier League is always hard so a bad start is even worse in England than elsewhere. I'm sure it'll get better, both the results and the atmosphere on here. I hope you'll reconsider your stance in the near future. And if not, take care of yourself, mate. And enjoy the games in the meantime :)

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29 Sep 2015 22:38:34
This is exactly my thoughts, I'll have a look occasionally but the amound of negativity is just driving me crazy

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{Ed018's Note - in all fairness, there's not much to be positive about other than it's still early in the season}

30 Sep 2015 07:55:02
It's bound to be negative, the team are playing poorly, individuals have gone off the boil, the attitude with some seems suspect and at times the team selection is worrying given the appalling season Ivanovic is having. ANYONE currently posting on here positively would need certifying. We all want to make positive observations and contributions but very difficult when there is wholesale failings so far with few positive signs of improvement. I am wondering if Chelsea's transfer policy is flawed as we know Mourinho indicates this and that and others do the deals as I think we are being mugged. Fabregas was known for fading, Barcelona made the comments about his half season performances and we bought him and his legs look totally shot to me. Pedro with a Euro150m buy out clause is snapped up by us for a knock down price and his performances make me wonder why we ever bought him. Rahman £21m+ cannot get on the bench sometimes let alone the pitch. The defence are being impacted covering Ivanovic, Matic likewise with Fabregas alongside and with ineffectual Pedro and the constant Costa worry the front is becoming sterile. Not that I am moaning of course!

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30 Sep 2015 12:31:32
Frensham, were you one of the ones complaining about us being boring last year when we won the title?

No offense but you seem to be one of those guys. Never satisfied.

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30 Sep 2015 14:17:25
Hazard54: Not me,I only joined pre-season but was a frequent viewer. Having supported Chelsea since April 1955 I know better than most about supporting Chelsea, a club that has always turned success into failure very quickly for what ever reason and I and others are concerned. It is a guess only but using Hazard in your nom de plume would suggest you have only been around since 2012 when he joined and if you cannot find anything wrong with the way we are going about our football then you should start worrying about yourself not me or others. What can you possibly be satisfied with? We are shambolic everywhere currently and as a banter page everyone including us is sharing their opinion; does Mourinho check this for tips, of course he doesn't but true supporters keep an open mind about everything, good, bad and ugly. You are not a true supporter of Chelsea Football Club if you cannot accept criticism about the players, team or club. A question: we won the league last year comfortably BUT from Christmas were you really happy with the football we played; forget eeking out results but the quality of football?

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30 Sep 2015 18:02:04
Have nearly always welcomed Melbourne CFC's comments as voice of sanity and much enjoyed most of Hazard54's comments too. But am with Jackson and Frensham on this topic -- and have been a supporter since late 1960s so seen plenty of ups and downs (literally!). Frensham right that the ups have often not lasted as long as most think they should. So the 'whingers' are trying to think of things that should be fixed with current team -- even if it already does have so much talent and likes of Willian, Ramires and quite a few others had pretty decent games last night. Problem has been getting a whole team performance and bit of backbone back/leadership - yes, and Bran being so much below previous form - and what to do about this.

Don't think this is whinging personally, though perhaps Pommies who live under grey skies aren't temperamentally as upbeat as those who live in beautiful sunlit Aussie cities!

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30 Sep 2015 18:57:33
I agree with a lot of what frensham is saying, not about hazard54. As however long he has been a cfc supporter is irrelevant. We are all entitled to our opinions.
Back to original, I agree as I also feel the team is suffering covering the under performers. Ie ivanovic is impacting on the rest of the defence. I agree I worry about cesc, his form is poor and he is increasing matic work load, pedro has been at best average. I still feel if Jose is not prepared to play baba that loa aina rb Dave lb zouma with jt. The reason for jt he maybe slower but is a leader and we are missing that. I also feel willian is one of the players who are having an impact.
IMO the team for southampton should be.
Begovic
Aina/Dave zouma jt Dave/baba
Ramires matic RLC
Willian costa hazard
At the moment I think that gives a better balance of youth and experience.

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30 Sep 2015 19:21:33
JBS: You were doing so well with that comment until you ruined it with the last sentence. Remember, Aussies are the result of dysfunctional English stock!! If you are a late 60's supporter you probably missed one of the great Chelsea teams to disappoint badly, Osgood, Cooke, Hudson etc, a team that was head and shoulders above the others but just could not focus beyond a nightclub.

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01 Oct 2015 15:37:18
Fair point Frensham but thought it might cheer Melbourne CFC up and get him back on page.

Yes, did see that CFC side. When not too hungover (them not me. well.!) was superb to watch. But all too often players when off the pitch to keen to help promote image of "Swinging London". Bought the record of Blue is the Colour sung by team in run up to the unfortunate League Cup final v Stoke in '72.Could perhaps do with a Chopper Harris type in current squad, though if anyone played in physical style of those days would of course be sent off pretty quickly. Saw a calculation somewhere that in first of 1970 FA Cup finals CFC v Leeds of 1970, a modern ref. would have sent off 9 players of combined teams!

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29 Sep 2015 21:43:26
Ivanovic is a joke of a defender now anyone could waltz past him without breaking a sweat

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30 Sep 2015 21:17:06
Get a grip! The man is a club legend and on his day one hell of a defender! Granted he's had a very bad few games but have a it more respect for the man, he deserves that at least

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29 Sep 2015 21:28:10
Jose needs to wake up. Ivanovic needs a rest and Fabregas and Matic combo not working we get too exposed.

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29 Sep 2015 21:38:49
Matic never even started lad.

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29 Sep 2015 21:46:34
Magical: I check that one!

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30 Sep 2015 05:56:04
The point is Fabegras playing in that role is not helping at all. It's not about Matic. We need Rami in there with Matic and Fab to play ahead of them in 3 man midfield.

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29 Sep 2015 21:15:40
We're playing poorly but how good do Brahimi and Imbula look?

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29 Sep 2015 21:15:03
Is Jose watching this, he can't be because he has left ivanovic on the pitch

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29 Sep 2015 21:09:52
Pedro had been very poor so fat 67mins

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29 Sep 2015 22:21:03
Agree, I was hoping Kenedy would start the 2ND half in his place. He kept giving the ball away and should have gotten to that Willian cross for a tap in.

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29 Sep 2015 20:57:08
Agree with all but how useless Ivanovich is now at defending. He must be taken off. Is waltzed past by any and all, as he was in lead up to move that led to Porto corner then goal. Has been directly or indirectly responsible for c 60% goals conceded by us this season. JM must bring on Baba and allow Dave A to switch sides. But he wont.

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29 Sep 2015 21:20:45
All moaning aside can ANYONE understand why Ivanovic is still on the pitch. Having a nightmare and we make three other subs with a bona fide right back on the pitch and the same on the left on the bench, absolutely baffling. I am beginning to think a few of us are correct regarding Pedro's value to us other than an impact player.

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29 Sep 2015 20:55:01
This is why Terry should start JACKSON! No leadership on set pieces. Conceded two set pieces in two games now.

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29 Sep 2015 22:22:44
Well yeah, I see your point. But to be fair to the lad, it was quite an excellent header ;-)

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29 Sep 2015 20:35:02
Mourinho's face ice man after Willian scored.

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29 Sep 2015 20:34:55
Wtf is going on. We are slow and predictable. Poor passing and a lack of strength in the tackle.
Ivanovic is starting to resemble one of those dummies they practice dribbling round. Not able tackle and you go round no probs. trouble is he destabilises the whole defence.
can I ask is there a possibility Jose could look at Ola aina who is big fast and a good tackler.
Also mikel and fabregas in defensive midfield a recipe for disaster.
Sorry if its a big moan and know we have just equalized but its poor. Shining light costa has done well

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29 Sep 2015 20:27:06
Surprise surprise someone else going rd ivanovic like he's not there he's terrible Pedro face after he scored says it all

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29 Sep 2015 20:25:27
I love Iva for everything but he ain't a starter anymore.

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{Ed018's Note - not at all. I could dribble right around him}

29 Sep 2015 20:30:19
Beat me to it. He is having a shocker and he must know it and time out is needed to help him as his demise has been staggering. Switch Azi and use Rahman = balance and pace.

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{Ed018's Note - it's got to stop. How Mourinho doesn't see this is beyond me. He literally can not defend anymore and has no buisness starting}

29 Sep 2015 20:36:45
We need to press higher. Change to bloody 433.

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29 Sep 2015 18:52:17
Mikel and fabregas in midfield . Let us all pray

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29 Sep 2015 19:12:14
As much a I love Mourinho . he so predicable and boring. Why not play baba . He says no one is untouchable however Iva starts again wtf. The worst player this year by a long shot.
Kenedy or RLC deserves a game in the team.

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29 Sep 2015 19:37:19
Sid: I agree with you. If we are forcing the issue, Mikel is not your man, if you are under the cosh, Fabregas is not your man so I am hopeful there will be some smart substitutions as the game progresses. I just hope those two 'goal machines" Ramires and Willian can keep it up!

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28 Sep 2015 23:43:49
Anyone seen Solanke's turn for Vitesse? WOW. What a piece of skill that was. Really actually think Solanke and Loftus-Cheek are going to be big players for us in the future. They've both been at the club since they were 8 also.

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{Ed018's Note - it was a nice turn that's for sure}

29 Sep 2015 07:36:47
Lewis Baker is also doing well at Vitesse.

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29 Sep 2015 09:21:15
Was a very nice bit of skill.

This is a bit of a predicament Chelsea find themselves in. To sign players now or to wait for players, such as those mentioned above, to come into the side. Ola Aina is a great example of this, I rate the lad very highly and when you watch him play for the u21's he's a man vs boys. Do we look to sign another RB to replace Ivanovic or hold out for a year and bring Aina through?

There must be a happy medium between signings and youth development, but I for one would happily forgo major silverware for the next two/three years if it meant success in the future with our quality youth players.

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