Chelsea Banter Archive October 29 2015

 

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29 Oct 2015 09:16:39
I think it has been evident to see that the players are putting in the effort for Jose in the last few games it's just been a combination of decisions and luck going against us plus some individual mistakes through loss of form and confidence. Yes, I agree that we struggling because we didn't get our targets in the Summer, namely Stones, Pogba and Griezmann. ( can you imagine where we would be now if they had joined ) . The press and pundits are now having a field day calling it a 'crisis', 'Lost the dressing room', 'Eva the doc', '3rd season syndrome' etc etc. Other clubs fans are enjoying it as well. However, the fact of the matter is that we must be patient and wait for things to turn around and I highlighted earlier the performances in our last few games are showing signs of recovery. I hope Roman and the board continue to back Jose and come January we can strengthen and see where we finish in May. Changing one of the best managers in world football is not the answer. Supporting him and the team is just like the 4,000 or so who were at Stoke did. Onwards and upwards.

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29 Oct 2015 10:53:56
If you're looking for a new manager to come in, have an impact, and win you silverwear in their first two years then Jose is the best - no doubt about that.

Is he the best when you're struggling for results with low confidence? No one really knows, he has never been in a management situation like he finds himself in right now; fact is he isn't dealing with it very well and the results speak for themselves.

Personally I don't think he is the right man for the club right now, and is being saved by a lack of available managers plus the massive amounts of money the club will have to pay him out if they sack him.

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29 Oct 2015 11:13:50
Respect your opinion but totally disagree with you J. We are only 10 league games into a new season! The man just won us our first title since 2010 and as I reasoned in my post needs time to turn things around. At least give him until May ffs.

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29 Oct 2015 12:11:50
I can't believe some people think he's not the best man for the job. We were all pleased he came back to the club and he duly delivered the title. We've hit a rough patch but I'm sure he will get us out of it, if he's given the chance.

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29 Oct 2015 18:13:54
I genuinely hope you guys are right, he turns things around and is at the club for many successful years to come.

Results, performances, and probably his attitude over the coming weeks, will decide that though.

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29 Oct 2015 18:46:53
Fans with very short memories asking for Jose to go. Best manager we've ever had, and we was all over the moon when he game back. 10 league games after winning is the title and you'd think Jose had rocked up to a game in a Sphurs shirt or something. He is the most successful manager in modern football and he is our manager. Cut the guy some slack and support him like real fans should!

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29 Oct 2015 19:10:11
I support the club not a single figure with the club, if I think the manager is having an adverse effect on the club then I'll speak out about it. Being the best manager in the club's history, or modern history, has no impact on current results, right now is what matters; and right now things are looking seriously wrong.

10 games since last season and how many defeats? That's not right. The negative fanfare that's followed the club since the first game of the season, that's not right. So many top class players under performing, that's not right. This shouldn't all land at Mourinho's feet but, the way modern football is, if results and the generaly poor PR around the club don't improve he will go. That's not a personal opinion against the guy; it's a footballing fact.

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29 Oct 2015 22:43:58
I've read all of the above, all of us would be happy for Jose to drag us back up the league, and carry on from last season.
But a lot of us would like him to do this in a less brash turn the world against us way. The problem is he is creating the he's lost it, the team are against him, comments by his actions. Why not keep his mouth shut, head down and just work through this blip. Then let actions speak louder than words, then when we are back let them have both barrels for doubting him. This is my opinion.

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29 Oct 2015 22:44:49
Just thought I'd point out that we are only 2 points off of united's tally at this stage last year and they finished 4th by 6 points. This is hardly the end of the world or the huge crisis that the media would have us believe.

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29 Oct 2015 23:02:43
I think Jose let's himself down terrible with the blame game the world is against Chelsea etc we have gotten away with some big calls this season also most notably Southampton he was complaining we should have had a Pena yet mane clearly got taken out an didn't get 1 either I'd like to see him more happy and back to his best he's causing terrible press for himself and they are jumping all over it crisis this an crisis that. yes it is a bit of a crisis because he doesn't seem to no how to handle it all at the moment but I'm sure if we give him til Xmas get him who he wants he will improve and we will bounce back sacking him may only be the option if he's lost the dressing room but so far that doesn't seem to be true just the press stirring things up an plus who else is left to get he's the best in the buisness.

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29 Oct 2015 01:17:37
I know that it is not set in stone but from what I can gather from the rumours page we are targeting Marquinhos over stones., . I think that if we were to miss out on stones it would be A shame for many reasons. 1 he's English which is more important than it used to be and would have a big impact on the home grown coefficient; also I think the fans just love to see a good English lad especially a defender just bossing a game and is great to get behind. I also think the English lads tend to stay at the club for the long term and I think a player like stones could become apart of chelsea and go on to be a great. Whereas I just feel that Marquinhos would also be looking for a move to real or Barcelona like some foreigners do when they feel they are the best player at the club (ronaldo, Suarez. On to their actual ability I know people have questioned Marquinhos' physique but I don't think stones is overly physical either and both would bulk up once they are at the club. Marquinhos has the potential to be a world beater in his day and could be world class. But I don't feel that is what we need really, I th that zouma has that potential and I think stones would compliment him nicely and offer a more composed style of play. The brain to zouma's brawn. Also his versatility reminds a bit of ivanovic and he could be called to play in a few positions and would be able to shine. I think Marquinhos is a great player but I just don't feel we would get the same from him as we would stones. Also I think I can speak for all of us when saying seeing stones in a United kit would leave a sour taste in our mouths. I know I've been rambling for ages and I apol for that. But if you look 5 or 6 years down the line. And it's a rainy November Tuesday night at Sunderland. Who would you trust more stones or Marquinhos, ucl semis away and under the cosh against barca. Who do you trust to throw their body in front of the ball stones or Marquinhos, who do you expect to galvanise the team when you are down to 10 at the Emirates stones (touted for England captaincy) or Marquinhos. I appreciate some of you will disagree and I'm probably being bias. But I think choosing Marquinhos over stones may be a mistake.

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29 Oct 2015 08:53:15
I'd choose Marquinhos over Stones when we're playing Barcelona to be honest. He's been there already, so he's used to a higher level of football. Plus he can also play right back, he's even done so against us. And like Stones, he's tidy on the ball (he's Brazilian after all) .
The reason why I'd be hesitant to go after Stones is exactly because United could be in for him. With their insane amount of money they'd either blow us out of the water or they'd contribute to us massively overpaying (it's called "the winner's curse" in economics ;-) ) .

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29 Oct 2015 14:06:12
I'd have Marquinhos he reminds me a lot of Carvalho. Not the biggest CB but fantastic in the air. If you watch Marquinhos he's also fantastic on the ball brilliant for his age. Azpilicueta, Zouma, Marquinhos and Baba would be a quality back four once the latter three gain more experience. After Varane, I think Marquinhos is the best young CB around followed by Laporte, Zouma and Stones. With Everton not wanting to sell Stones to us in the summer I really do see him at United. It would leave us with Marquinhos, Zouma, Terry and Cahill as CB's, which would be great. If Terry does retire I'd like to see Christensen take his place he seems to be doing well at Monchengladbach.

Regarding English players we have great talents in our youth. By next season I hope RLC will establish himself as a first team player. Aina has great potential he should have started vs Stoke. And I have no doubt Solanke shall make it at Chelsea. I also see Stones ending up at United.

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29 Oct 2015 15:28:05
I hope your eden.

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29 Oct 2015 17:02:05
I think the homegrown situation will be fine, whether we get Stones or a foreign CB. To me, our "golden" academy products are RLC, Solanke, Musonda and Christensen. I think all of them would be registered as homegrown players and I believe they all have the quality to play for our team in the future. I just hope the Musonda situation will sort itself out, as he needs playing time at a good level. He's way too good to just play U21 games right now.

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29 Oct 2015 20:35:09
I think izzy brown or boga could make it too. If theu get enough game time out on loan this season which neither seems to be getting at the moment.

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29 Oct 2015 22:21:25
I feel it for Stones because he did hand in a transfer request but Everton can do one, I don't want that club to get a cent from Chelsea for a long time because the whole saga felt very personal.

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29 Oct 2015 22:24:04
The reason we are targeting Marquinhos over Stones is very simple - Stones is not for sale.

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29 Oct 2015 22:44:08
I'm not sure Marquinhos is up for sale either.

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29 Oct 2015 23:05:30
I'd love to see him give aina a look.

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