Chelsea Banter Archive October 29 2012

29 Oct 2012 22:25:47
Pls can someone help me out here, during d match d tention was so high that i wasnt thinking strength. Pls i remember mikel was booked initialy for talking too much according to the ref's body language,i also ,saw d ref flash him another card when he fouled valencia was thinking he was out 4 a red card. And was suprised dat i didnt see d controvacial ref send him off pls correct me guys. Chelsea 4life!.... STAN

Valencia got booked for diving

Jm10

29 Oct 2012 15:32:11
Hello Ed,

If we are to sign Falcoa on the summer will there be a push to sign a striker in the JAN window? ... i say this as im loosing confidence in TORRI-D like other chelsea fans and STUD-RIDGE for me is a bit too selfish to suit our play ... and PIE-ZON is still not baked enough :)

i know the C - management have realised this and there is action to be taken ... when is the question

ed i know it too early for names but r we looking in that direction for a replacement in JAN with Flacao in the summer

OR

if we manage to get Falcao in January then will we still hunt for another in he JAN window

Derek {Ed002's Note - Sounds like the Orange Sunshine is kicking in.}

Ed classic! That's some strong dose he's on :D

ED .. did not kno what Orange sunshine is ... but now im enlightened ... and no its not true ... just a hangover from yesterday ...

getting to the point without some orange sunshine ...
so may i have some names for stirkers we are looking for in the JAN window {Ed002's Note - There is nothing really to say beyond what has been discussed in terms of strikers.}

29 Oct 2012 14:49:56
For the Man Utd capital one cup game i would go with:

Turnbull,
Azpilicueta,Cahill,Luiz,Bertrand
Romeu,Ramires
Moses,Piazon,Marin
Sturridge.

Formally "Dave", until somebody used it the other day so now i am "Milkybar Dave"

29 Oct 2012 15:11:35
Turnbull,
Azpilicueta,Cahill,Luiz,Bertrand
Romeu,Mikel
Moses,Hazard,Marin
Sturridge.

Sub: Paizon Mata Ramirez

Romeu and Mikel that is stupid

Why is Romeu and Mikel stupid? Romeu is nearly as good as Ramires and have alot better passing aswell.

Its stupid because they both play the holding role. Ramires is the energy and pace.

Rami has been playing in and out every week and needs some rest ... also Romeu does take a shot on goal as well ... he is in the making

29 Oct 2012 10:53:14
From first half i was really dissapointed in Mikel,Hazard,Cole and Mata's defending, they were just walking down the pitch and it cost of 2 goal which could've easily been avoided. Especially Hazard and Mata has been very, very sloppy at defending which hit us hard against stronger teams, i do admit they were lucky on their first goal tho but he could easily have hit the goal.

It's not that at all. Our midfield Mikel and ramires kept standing off. When we were pressing we looked one of the best in the world, dominating, they couldn't get through. I have to say if we play every game like we did 25 minutes onwards, no one will stop us, dimatteo got the tactics wrong to start with, we was at home and acted like we were scared. We've got the attackers so attack, not stand back and let people attack us. Eleven men or even ten men we would have won yesterday. By far the best footballing team if we just ran instead of backing off, man unites midfield couldn't handle rami and Mikel closing them down so quickly. We have to play like this all the time. BLUEBOY1

29 Oct 2012 09:39:16
How long before referees start to complain that too much pressure has been put on them to deal with divers, and now they feel that if they don't card someone for simulation they'll be in hot water with the FA.

It can be difficult for a referee, in a split second, to decide what is and isn't a dive but they have take a couple of seconds and look at the situation the incidents happened in; that is what the best refs do and exactly what Clattenburg didn't do.

What was Torres looking to gain by diving? A free kick from a fair distance out, would that really be worth the dive?

As Fergie said there was a good chance Torres could have gone through and scored, would he have dived in this situation?

Take a moment to take the players reactions into account, Evans immediately turned to the ref with a concerned look on his face attempting the plead his innocence. Torres remained on the floor not even looking to see if the decision had gone his way; he knew he'd been fouled.

The decision Clattenburg made was rash and that's what makes him a bad referee, and it wasn't just decisions against Chelsea. Torres should have been shown a red card and I don't think Valencia dived.

No matter what he did or didn't say to some of the Chelsea players Clattenburg shouldn't referee a professional football match for a long time!!

Surewould

Dermot gallagher said he spoke to clattenburg and he saw it that torres had kicked the ball to far and would of lost it so dived trying to con the ref, so booked him..

29 Oct 2012 10:38:07
i 100% agree with you mate and its nice too see your not being biased too us because the ref was shocking all game

ivanovic is the only descision im not going too slate him for because he was right behind them and ivan cut across young so it would of been hard without all the camera angles

however like you saw with torres the moment the whistle went evans looked like he needed a new pair of boxers on

it wouldnt surprise me if the ref saw sturridge about too come on (knowning studge's pace would destroy evans and rio) so found a way too prevent it

extremely angry even this morning but im trying too look on the bright side that we are still top of the league and quite frankly we are the best team in the league this season and obviously united cant handle it and are throwing backhanders too referees

curt

So according to Clattenburg the fact that Evans studs scrapped down Torres' shin had nothing to do with Torres going down; it was only because Torres didn't think he'd make the ball?

I do love it on Mondays when SSN have Gallagher on there (Kirsty not Dermot), but his defense of refs is sometimes shocking; its a rare, rare occasion he admits a ref has had a poor game.

Kamara has actually given a good opinion on the incidents on the a website website.

Surewould

Clangerberk! Enough said, shouldn't referee in the prem again.

I don't support either side. But I am interested to think what you thought of the karate kick on Cleverly? Surely in any ones book that is a red(well apart from Webbs maybe). Meaning if you had had a better referee you would have been without Torres for far long. Doesn't excuse the complete incompetency of the ref. But actually he did you a favour in my eyes...

That was never a red, torees tried getting the ball and didnt see him. booking at most. before iv got sent off their was 6 man utd fouls not 1 booking. valencia, carrick & evans all should have gone if torres was a red. at the end of the day the better team lost. still top well open the gap up again then do em at trafford. I gota say football is becoming to soft. BLUEBOY1

30 Oct 2012 10:25:12
yer that should of been a red but he hardly done us a favour

torres didnt score so its not like him staying on the pitch helped us with a goal

he hardly done us a favour by giving united a goal that was clearly offside either so i dont get your point there

curt

29 Oct 2012 06:31:33
Since we beat Barcelona 3-2 on aggregate in the UCL I've heard people call us "lucky", granted a lot could have gone differently for us but against Barcelona at the Camp Nou with 10 men, a make shift defence and our captain not on the field we still manage a draw, that's not luck that's a die hard spirit. Against Munich in the final we had our first choice right back (Ivanovic), CB (JT), mid (Rami) and Merilles who would have played in Rami's place all banned, our CB's had just came back from injury and all this was before the match. In the 83rd minute Munich scored a goal, almost any other team that would have match over but it wasn't, Torres comes in sparks a bit of life into the team, gets a corner and in 88th minute Drogba puts in the equaliser. We all know what happened after that and for me it wasn't luck, it was determination, our team were facing missing out on Champions League this season and they dug deep to come back and win a final that no one thought we could win let alone at the home of our opponents. That's not luck, its heart and the spirit to win when your backs against the wall. That's what our team this year has inherited from the class of 11/12.

Zen11

29 Oct 2012 06:09:21
I'm was not impressed by the decisions that the officials made yesterday, they were disgusting.

11 vs 11 we would have won by 4-2 or more, because apart from the first 20-25 minutes we were by far the better team. 11 vs 10: Ivanovic's sending off was harsh but I could accept it because even with ten men I had no doubt in my that we could win that match. 11 vs 9: The Torres sending off was incredible, no one expected that, I heard someone doing match analysis say "If that Evans foul was in the box it would have been a penalty". 11 vs 9 and we still showed heart and determination then an offside goal is given. I don't mind us losing, against Shakter we lost because we were the second best team on the field, yesterday we lost because of the officials made poor decision and then we find that the ref used inappropriate language towards our players. Its a disgrace, I'm still lost for words.

I'm proud of our team and the way we played, I can't fault anyone in our team. WIN OR LOSE UP THE BLUES!!

Zen11

If it is being found out that he was swearing at people and there for made every decision against Chelsea, would we be given our points back to a draw or is it just the "luxury" of playing against united as always? {Ed002's Note - No, just a couple of bad decisions - move on.}

It wasnt 11 v 9 it was 12 v 9

29 Oct 2012 03:11:36
To be fair although we were unfortunate to have torres sent off for his diving, he was pretty lucky to not have been sent off earlier for his dangerous kick at cleverley. fortunately for us the ref also missed 2 penalty decisions that could have gone against us and even managed to card valencia when mikel took him out for what would have been another another card and 8 men left for us on the pitch. all in all, think we probably got the better of the decisions, just my opinion.

blueballs

29 Oct 2012 02:37:35
Worst officiating weekend in the bpl i can remember in a long time. It seems with all these new rules the refs are getting worse, a number of teams not just us got robbed.

29 Oct 2012 00:12:38
in the immortal words of didier drogba

"it's a disgrace ... its a f**king disgrace"

all things aside (no point in commenting on the ref because there's nothing new I can say that hasn't already be said) it took man u 12 men vs 9 to beat us with a lucky og and an offside goal. not worried at all. the prem is ours

Vincent