Chelsea Banter Archive July 29 2012

29 Jul 2012 22:19:43
Muniain would be a great signing, thoughts?

You have MOTD fever. It should ware-Off tomorrow.

ELI

To be honest he did look good and he is a hard worker!

Got that area covered now I think! So no thanks.

Chelsea Nick

Not as great as Oscar and Hazard, so unless his gonna be free or really cheap I'll pass, and we also got Marin.
Plus, what's going on? The site has become more of questions than actual banter and Rumours.

-BLUERAY-

Ye i like muniain but were to full now in this area. and to be honest i think marin is going to be better than alot of people think. BLUEBOY1

Deffinately agree with blueray and blueboy

curt

29 Jul 2012 22:10:55
this is a messege to all so called cfc fans slating the side and players during pre-season.

1). We didnt have, terry, cole, torres, meireles at the start, aswell as mata, romeuo, oscar and sturridge..

2). We played a few memebers of the youth team, and alot of players out of position or not in their best position.

3). Pre-season is for re-gaining fitness, and the new signings had to gel and adapt to the new style of play, as did the other players.

4). For all those who are already judging Torres, dont judge him now, judge him at the end of the season, because i can guarante all of you who have been writing him off now, will have changed your tune when he's banged in 20+ goals this season, and also don't judge any of the other players until the season is done.

5). Its nice to see alot of you guys posting silky attacking line ups, but we cant always play,oscar, hazard, lampard, mata, marin, ramires. And we still need at least 3 or 4 experienced heads in the side, other wise we will be all over the place..

My team for next season...

Cech
Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole
Ramires Lampard
Marin Mata Hazard
Torres

Turnball
Bertrand
Oscar
Mikel
Essien
Lukaku
Cahill

Thanks guys

Henry10

Oscar WILL NOT be on the bench, that boy is a superstar! Incredible player!

I wrote this post and put oscar on the bench, because he will come on as sub for lampard and gradually become a starter as the season goes on....

Henry10

Nah lamps will play deeper trust me oscar will or atleast should be starting

curt

29 Jul 2012 21:40:15
Mata is comin back to chelsea after his 21 day rest :D haha

29 Jul 2012 20:41:59
2 games ive seen hulk play he has been well off the mark glad to hear rdm say the other day our interest is over
Carefree

29 Jul 2012 19:45:30
Remember UCL semi-finals and finals , chealsea used a master formation , i.e 10-0-0 . So why have you guys decided to sign foward players.

Red Hood

Most probably because we need them, kalou, malouda dont work fr us anymre

Actually for ur info we played 9 0 0 in the semi terry was sent and we still won

my guess is your either united or pool either way u couldnt beat them with 11 men on the pitch let alone 10 good day sir :D

curt

29 Jul 2012 21:07:41
Red Hood : Just wait for the season to start and you will get your answer why we are the UCL Champions and why we are best at the business...and I really don't get what bothers you the most the Cfc has rejuvinate the team or your team's incapability of doing anything...! Chelsea for life.

To rip your team apart

trueblue012

Those who disagreed with my previous post would agree with me that cfc were lucky in the UCL and that the nameless poster is just trying to defend cfc irrational signings

Red Hood

Irrational signings?

IB.

30 Jul 2012 09:58:12
RedHood: Everyone need to have the luck to win besides from playing and that's call a Champions Luck...whatever I know you don't understand because you fella only know to lose to those teams...Chelsea brave and so they are the UCL Champions...and again you are telling the irrational signing which one can you clarify or you are meaning to all the signing are irrational...i think you should look at your team better...it will be hard this term to get even the UCL you are talking about...! Chelsea for Life

I'm with you red hood!! Most chelsea fans are delusional if they think they actually deserved to win!!

Oh shut up unamed

we was lucky yes but still deserved it because we played the best defensive display ever seen (even the pundits said so)

i love when other club fans come on here to complain jealously is sometimes a wonderful thing :D

29 Jul 2012 18:06:36
Fellow Chelsea fan!
I can put anyone's mind at rest who's worried about us spending so much money on Oscar. I've just left Old Trafford after watching Brazil play, and of I could use one word to describe him, it would probably be.....breathtaking! He's got it all, vision, pace, passing ability, shooting ability! So excited to watch him next season! Absolutely outstanding player!

Chelsea Nick

Agreed mate like i said earlier if i was gay i would of pulled one out over there 3rd goal

but no mate he is outstanding and i rarely agree with paying too much for a youngster

curt

N and goal to round it all up!!

He keeps Lucas moura out the team!

I actually thought he was better in the last game, and the one against England, but he took the goal brilliantly! I am very excited to see him in a blue shirt, he looks the kind of player you can build a team around.

Plus he has a great attitude about him, hopefully can become a chelsea legend.

My mouth gets all watery just thinking about him ,Mata, Hazard, and Rami in the same team. Priceless.

ELI

29 Jul 2012 17:30:04
Hi Ed, Martin Montoya looks like he has lots of potential. Have Chelsea considered him as a RB option?

Cheers Steve {Ed018's Note - not at the moment}

29 Jul 2012 17:30:18
Well last year we played in 4-2-3-1 formation under RDM
after AVB departure.

It was very successful and that brought us FA Cup as well as
Champions League Cup. Now we are building the new team more young attacking
players are coming in and replacing our old guards.

After watching all preseason games of USA tour I guess RDM
is looking for the right balance in the same old of his favored formation of
4-2-3-1. Though Juan Mata and our new
signing Oscar are missing who are more than capable of breaking into our first
team squad.

In every preseason game we have conceded goal or goals. Last
season when we played in 4-2-3-1 formation where our attacking trio used to
fall back when required and do some defensive duties. But now we have some
new-different players such as Hazard, Marin who are not going back to do
defensive duties.

RDM want to build success once more on the same formation
4-2-3-1 but I guess now he needs to think differently because of new
accusations. We need to find the right balance a first choice starting XI and
replacement for each and every position which I guess RDM will surely find very
soon.

After today’s game against AC Milan RDM accepted that we
lacked penetration the final pass was missing and therefore lacked much in
creating goal scoring chances. We all know this is very early and our new
signing players need time to settle in. Also one of the key players of last
season Juan Mata missing and recently signed Oscar one of the future star also
missing from these games. Yet we should have created some chances. Never mind
hopefully we will find the right balance before season kicks off.

We have very crowded midfield presently which will be sorted
out soon. RDM will off-load some players before the transfer window which will
include selling as well as loaning out some youngsters.

If the latest reports are to be believed then De Bruyne is
on his way to Wender Bremen for season long loan. Malouda and Benayun will be
sold before transfer window closes. Kakuta might be again send on loan. While
we all hoped this season Josh Maccharan will break into the team but now it seems
again he might be send on loan as there are still many players ahead of him in
picking order. While Lucas Piazon will continue his progress with our reserve
squad.

All the above still leaves us with Lampard, Mata, Hazard,
Ramires, Essein, Mikel, Meireles, Oscar, Marin, Romeu, one more new signing as
hinted by RDM I guess mostly Victor Moses . So we will be having 11 midfielders
for the selection of 5 places behind our first choice alone striker Fernando
Torres.

The toughest job for RDM is to choose the correct players
for correct positions as many of our players are versatile. The team balance is
the key for success. We have now a lot of individual talents now we have to
bond it into a Team.

Every one of you will have different thoughts about the choice
of players and on the formation. I also have my favored formation.

Chelsea FC formation for next season 4-1-4-1

Though it’s 4-1-4-1
formation of player’s actual playing position will be little different
something like down below:



-------------------CECH--------------------



IVANOVIC-----LUIZ-------TERRY----COLE



---------------------MIKEL-----------------

---------RAMIRES---------OSCAR----------
MATA------------------------------HAZARD

--------------------TORRES----------------



Substitutes: Turnbull, Cahill, Cesar, Lampard, Essein,
Marin, Struddige



This might not be the formation for early season games but
yes this will help us in long future. Now many of you will argue with me about
not selecting Frank Lampard in starting XI but he will have his chances as and
when required, playing in the position of either Ramires or Oscar. Essein
looked good in preseason games and yesterday only he said in an interview that
he do not want to leave Chelsea FC and instead will fight for his place, no one
will argue when Essein is in form he is one of the best box to box midfielder. Mikel
is selected ahead of Essein on just purely present performances. We will have
Marin and may be Moses on bench (or any new winger signing to substitute Mata,
Hazard). Cahill and Cesar(hopefully our new right back) will be on bench to
replace the defender as and when required. Struddige will be on bench as
substitute to Torres.

Now none of you will have doubt about playing Torres as our
main front striker. Playing Mata and Hazard on right and left wings
respectively will be an advantage as they whenever wish will cut in and will
have shot with their preferred foot. Ramires and Oscar will play midfield area
this will benefit us in many reasons. Both are energetic , hard working
midfielders. The run of Ramires from midfield or the skills of Oscar such as
his eye for the ball, great passing ability will make a lot difference. Also we
all know Ramires is good in some kind of defensive duties and for those who
don’t know Oscar, he is good in some defensive duties which will help Mikel and
that’s why none of the wingers will be required to fall back. Also Oscar likes
to collect the ball from deep midfield and then built up the attack. This means
Ramires and Oscar will both complement each other very well.

Some of you will even argue that this will make our midfield
very light but the way we are looking to build and play the different stylish
attacking football this will be one of the best suited style.

Whatever formation we play, whoever breaks into first team
squad it will be decided by RDM the man who knows best about the team than any
of us.

Blues for life……..!!!!!

CHELSEA FC till I die……….!!!!!!

SAMRAT DESHMUKH :-CHELSEA FC FAN FROM LAST 12 YEARS.

Dude you need to make shorter posts i got bored and didnt read any of it

curt

Ooo i will add i think your line up is quite good though

curt

Good post, are you a scout by any chance? by the way the formation you are suggesting is a 4-3-3, looks good though

trueblue012

Curt u r quite ignorant sometimes he couldnt make it shorter he detailed which was really good. BLUEBOY1

It might well of been but alot of people wont take the time to read it

i never said it was a bad post just it was very long but maybe your right and i should of taken the time to read it before i commented

curt

Trueblue012 i am not scout or something i am just one of Chelsea FC die-hard fan as u all guys are.

If actually read the post and i commented too soon so can i just say its a very good detailed post

curt

Trueblue012 i am just die hard fan of chelsea fc as u all guys are

Curt we dont have to agree on our formation...its my choice urs wl b different

Nah to be fair blue was right i was being ignorant it was a good post

curt

Curt
its ur above suggested formation will be followed not mine at least for some early games it is not bad but then we will be wasting the talent of ramires in holding midfielder role as both oscar and ramires should be allowed to use their talents

True dat

curt

WOW i must say this is a very good a detailed post. I agree with everything you said. IMO best post of the summer so far.

Thanx for compliment
samrat

29 Jul 2012 17:06:52
True blue12, roan, curt, Pr, lg, CFCs forever, Pinky, blueboy.

I wanna see ur starting elevens and subs, your formations, and the reasons you've dropped or placed certain players into your teams. Let's see how different people line ups and ideas are actually much different. Sign all posts. Cheers.

Why are we going to do what your demanding??

use your own advice and sign your own posts

curt

My team.

Cech

Invanovic. Luiz. Terry. Cole

Ramires. Essien

Hazard. Lampard. Mata

Torres

Subs.
Turnball
Cahill
Oscar
Marin
Hutchison
Sturridge
Piazon

Id still keep the faith with lampard this season as he will still net a lot and ur need that back up for torres incase he still not scoring! Il have Oscar coming on for lampard when games are won to let him find his feet and not put pressure on the lad to turn games around and let him bulk up a bit and then unleash him more next season when lampard is done! The rest of the team picks it self really


Pinky

Mine would be-

---------------Cech------------
Apziliceuta--Luiz--Terry--Cole
----------Essien--Ramires----
Hazard------Oscar-------Mata
-------------Torres------------

Subs

Turnbull

Lampard
Marin
Sturridge
Cavani

The most attacking and solid line up possible.

The previous two post that are un-signed are mine, by IPad is still playing up.

PR!

-------------cech--------------
ivanovic-cahill-terry-cole
-------ramires----oscar------
hazard-----mata----marin
------------torres------------

SUBS- turnbull, bertrand, lampard, sturridge, luiz, mceachran, essien.

this is my attacking line up, for my more defensive then obviously lamps and ess would start. BLUEBOY1

Good idea

gk cech
rb ivanovic / azpilicueta (brana doesn't want to play rb even though he is the best in the world)
cb cahill (he and terry have a great understanding and both are in their natural positions)
cb terry (captain, leader, legend john terry)
lb cole (bertrand still has to learn)
cm ramires (energy and pace)
cm oscar (i've been very impressed with him over the last year or so and i feel lampards experience would be best saved for the bigger games)
ram - i'll get to that one
cam mata (player of the season - best used in his favoured position)
lam hazard (has looked a class above in the 4 games he's played and can play anywhere)
st fernando torres (he looks determined to repay the faith shown in him from the fans and abramovic)

the right sided attacker is a tough one because the players we are looking at buying are predominantly right sided i.e hulk, moses, cavani. also mata can play there, so can marin. my personal preference would be mata, hazard and marin from right to left.

trueblue012

4 2 3 1 formation and subs consisting of hilario, sturridge, lampard, david luiz, azpilicueta / ivanovic, piazon and moses / cavani / hulk or whoever else we buy.

trueblue012

Essien and mikel are also part of my team just couldn't find room for them

trueblue012

Judging by everyone's line-ups so far the one thing i've noticed is we have so many different possible midfield combinations. good stuff

trueblue012

Yer gets everyone talking about the team and all sharing ideas, how this page should be amongst us fans. BLUEBOY1

I liked pr and pinkys teams with the essien rami combo on the double hinge.

Tk

29 Jul 2012 16:55:16
Just imagine if we had Neymar and Oscar.
The rest of EPL would be quaking if that happened.
I guess I can still dream eh?
CFCFOREVER!

Wish roman would put in a cheeky bid for him

curt

29 Jul 2012 16:34:04
Certain people on this website are twisting words and don't read what people write correctly. In my earlier post I stated certain reasons why the players weren't performing at their best, for instance it could have been fitness problems, the tactics used or just because it's pre-season. I'm was not stating any of these, I was asking your opinion and then I get blasted by hating upon Robbie by people like 'trueblue12'. I was stating facts from last night that the defence wasn't compact enough and that the build up is too slow. I'm a massive fan of Torres aswell so don't even contemplate having a go at me for that.

PR!

"i'd be surprised if the players weren't slow, or whatever it is you're saying, i don't even want to waste my time reading it"

the fact you were even suggesting that robbie was at fault for anything that has happened is just wrong, as i pointed out, it was a combination of the heat, lack of fitness and a mistake from certain player. the whole of my post was not directly aimed at you, it was more of rant aimed at people who think they're the special one, apologies for the misunderstanding

trueblue012

29 Jul 2012 16:14:26
haha rafael (united's right back) looks so out of place in the brazil squad they go from maicon and dani alves to him ......

so glad our apparent interest wasnt followed up

29 Jul 2012 15:37:25
may i ask why i got so much s**t off alot of you for months on end

atleast i love this club and can see we are capable of things unlike most people on here today writing us off before the season starts

curt

How ironic that this was posted on the 'banter' page. Man up mate.

LJ

Guessing your new to this site as you didnt witness the s**t i got so stay out of it :D

oh im not your mate either

I fail to see the irony. as for you curt, some people are just trolls and will do it because they know it annoys you, or you're just wrong all the time lol

trueblue012

Im never wrong trueblue ;) lol

to be fair i get disagreed on if i agree with someone who is agreed with lol

Who cares if people disagree curt, everyone's club everyone's opinions. Their is players I don't like, but you might like, who cares. BLUEBOY1

Think u missed the point blueboy lol

Well I like you curt

Puzzled

Well arent you kind puzzled but i dont think you being a liverpool fan is helping my cause lool

So puzzle u signed neymar and cavani yet?

Nah there guna waste any money they got on giving jordan henderson a new contract worth money that he isnt

curt

New manager doing the right thing - looking at the squad and the kids - now they are back from the us some action will start.
As regards Henderson - not the lad's fault how much was paid, but he is going to be a hell of a player. By the way I posted the other day but eds didn't put it up..you normally sign our strikers when we are finished with them so do you fancy Andy carroll?

Puzzled

Puzzled

Mate hendo wont be good but u can hope for that price tag

nah u keep this one were still having trouble with the last striker u sold to us lol

curt

Yer puzzle u aint mugging us of again, alryt fk it 40mill for carrol?

29 Jul 2012 15:35:35
Watching brazil,how I would love neymar in the blue of Chelsea!

29 Jul 2012 14:59:18
Do you expect to hear any news over chelsea transfers in the next week

Most probably be after the olympics

trueblue012

29 Jul 2012 14:18:03
To me its clear we are not going to sign a world class striker of the likes of Cavani and hulk! We will sign Moses and that be that. That will give us Moses,sturridge and torres competing for the lone striker role! I can't make up my mind on torres apart of me thinks I wanna stick my house on him being top scorer in the prem and the other part of me thinks he never going to be that player we all want him to be! Personally I would love to see sturridge be given that chance in his perferd role instead of a wide right player! He got pace he tricky and he his greedy and thats wot I like in a striker someone willing to shoot. Look wot he did in a poor bolton team! Look at the creative players we have to feed him. Easy 20+ goals in him got 12 past season out wide

Pinky

29 Jul 2012 13:52:58
Get a grip Matt, u really don't have a clue. The word plastic comes to mind. 4 training sessions and 30 mins on the pitch and ur already complaining. Had to be 1 mug out there and u are him. Muppet
Marley

That was meant to be a reply on the other page. Gremlins I think.
Marley

Haha marley 1 - 0 cfcmatt 0

29 Jul 2012 13:15:40
Are the premier league setting up an u21 and u18 league for young players this season could you tell me what you know about the plans

Try google it

29 Jul 2012 12:57:33
We have an annoying midfield problem more than the need for a striker. Fortunately, there's enough time to sort it out before the season begins, otherwise RDM will be gone come January. We need to win playing beautifully too. Permit me to suffice that AVB was here at the wrong time. These are pre-season games no doubt, but there are the mental implications. Given the 'merceneries' we now have, I fear for the manager...honestly.

29 Jul 2012 12:46:45
Leandro Damaio or Neymar to replace didier or even demba ba as he only has a 7 million release clause on his contract

Demba ba is a good option however, he is 1 knee injury away from retirement, BIG RISK

29 Jul 2012 12:08:48
For anyone who has seen all the preseason games so far, how has Hutchinson been?

He's been played at right back, but is obviously a lot better at centre back

29 Jul 2012 11:55:13
Everyone slating Torres! Take a hard look at Mikel and lampard and luiz.

Yer true they have been very poor but it is pre season. I ain't a fan of obi anyways, Essien should be playing! BLUEBOY1

29 Jul 2012 11:38:59
I do not believe di matteo can get us to play attacking football. Fair play to him he knows how to line up a solid defensive game, he deserved the job after winning the cl and fa double. But jesus Christ Essien all day long over Mikel. Ramires a right winger ? I don't think so. M sorry to say it but I really don't think he's what we were looking for. I know it's only preseason but we look ax exactly how AVB left us. To slow in centre mid at tracking players, passing, creativity. It's terrible to watch aswell. Sometimes I wonder if it was avb fault, I mean come on he wanted attacking football and high line something it and lampard can't do so their egos got him sacked. Also when avb was ther they should have still played for the fans even if they didn't like it.

Please stop talking. How many coaching badges do you have? how many champions leagues have you won? if you knew anything about di matteo you would know that at west brom all he did was attacking football. his mentors were all attacking as well. our full squad is not together yet. they are not fit yet. we haven't played the strongest team yet. assuming mata gets a holiday after the olympics, we wont play our strongest team until september. stop panicking!!

29 Jul 2012 10:46:08
After seeing our deep lying midfielders last night I reiterate my point that Sahin on a season long loan would be a good deal.

Its pre season

Ramires and Essien ?

I agree with you.When would RDM realize that Lampard and Mikel just do not have what we need in this attacking formation.We were exposed time and again in the center of the midfield through out the pre season.This is not acceptable.The center midfield is the heart beat of the team and when you have players who cannot pass quickly and accurately nor can put in timely tackles ,you know you are in trouble.I have said it many times and I have been slated for it Lampard is past it,reduce him to bench role or we will see the consequences later.This was the problem that existed during AVB's time and it went away because we played ultra defensively,which by the way is not enough to win the league.We need another DM like Fernando , M'vila(my pick great at releasing players),Sahin etc .Torres,Hazard Marin are fast players.The faster you release them the more chance they have of scoring. Surrounded by six players at a time when they are being released does not do them any favors.There is no problem with Torres ,he has shown that he still has it in the Euros.Slating him,even when he came on as a substitute and not having any through passes to score or run on to, as well as tuning a blind eye on to other players is just unfair.Torres is not the reason we are not scoring, play him, Hazard and Marin with a playmaker or a deep passing midfielder like Gerrad,Xavi,Alonso they will score loads and loads of goals .Notice that except for the first game Hazard and Marin have not scored again. I hope Oscar or Josh solve our deep lying midfield problem,if we do not sign any other players for that position.I have not mentioned Mata as he plays higher up.Signing a second striker and a right back would also be great.I also hope that RDM improves his tactics in the league.We have most of the ingredients just two or three shrewd signings would do the trick.Signing Doumbia is just plain crazy,he is probably quite aged and he plays in the Russian league for Christs sake.
roan

Agree with what u said Roan, but m'vila is just stupid money.

Roan talking sense! BLUEBOY1

If we didn't have Romeu and McEachran I would love the MVila thought but that's a ton of congestion unless people start moving on. Otherwise I think theres a lot of sense in your post.

Tk

29 Jul 2012 10:13:42
How would you go about getting ur coaching badges and is it expensive to do them {Ed002's Note - www.thefa.com then there are links to follow.}

I was thinking the same cuz if I'd Mattel can do it I can

A great place to look for coaching badges is football clubs, i did my Lv1 at Charlton FC. They are fairly expensive, the level one is not to bad but Lv2 is £500ish i think, although this is for a weeks training.

29 Jul 2012 10:11:11
Okay, I got a question for you all. But, before the question I want to state some thing.

I'm all up for the "support for EL NINO campaign", but really are we willing to risk next season and depend solely on Torres. I mean we all know he hasn't been great in blue. He has given us slight signs that he can be good but is that enough? I feel if every other position has fierce competition so should our striking position. I'm not gonna drop a name for us to sign, but I honestly believe we should bring in a top striker cause there is a need for a healthy competition in all positions.

We all want Torres to make it, but at what cause?
So my question to you all is How do we solve the Torres situation? Would really like to know what you guys think.
P.S. Hazard is gonna be a legend.

ELI {Ed002's Note - Chelsea have been trying very hard all summer to bring in strikers.}

If torres can't handle a bit of competition for places then he shouldn't be at a club like Chelsea.

That is exactly why the january transfer window was created.

The thing with Torres is he needs to have the feeling of being the undisputed number 1 at his club. So with that in mind you can add another big name striker but you might as well send of Fernando.

Tk {Ed002's Note - Chelsea lost Anelka, Kalou and Drogba. REplacements will arrive.}

29 Jul 2012 09:42:52
This is not a wish, but a possible scenario. RDM has a unsuccessful start to the season....sacked....Redknapp...asked to plug hole till end of season.....Pep takes over nxt season.

I fear for RDM and before anyone bleets on about "it's only pre-season" there was nothing in those games that showed RDM influence. Playing hazard and marin in the positions they did wasnt rocket science. Failing to see a need to change the DM combo to one that was hungrier and quicker is worrying. Mikel isnt it...three good games last season doesnt a great player make. Not seeing rami in a DM role, possibly with essien, who looks like he is on the way back, dissapointed. Just thinking mata and oscar will make everything ok is wishful thinking...If the reason for not playing the youngsters was to see the shape of what the likely starting eleven is then fair enough only, that likely starting eleven shape isnt nowhere good enough, especially if you are looking to include mikel as a mainstay in MF.

I'm with you on this! BLUEBOY1

Insane.

You dont deserve to call yourselves chelsea fans

29 Jul 2012 05:12:27
Marin and hazard looked like they did the first couple games
Centre mids held possession but didn't spark anything
Lukaku showed hes not quite ready to be the only backup
Rami got wasted on the wing
We can't play fast from the midfield with mikel. He's good if we pack it in but useless otherwise. 
Lamps distributes the ball pretty well but can't crank up the tempo which is one thing I hope Oscar will do. 
Sam Hutchinson may never become a regular for this club but it's a pleasure watching the energy he extorts. 100% of the time he puts in a hard shift. 
Essien was the best centre mid on the day
I would have liked to see josh play in one of the last 2 games
I know it's a friendly but there weren't a whole lot of players that gave me the impression that they truly wanted to win the game. 

Tk

People disagreeing? hes 100 percent right! i swear u see mikel make one good tackle and think corr he played well. milan had a weak team but got in behind our midfield easily and all the time!

29 Jul 2012 01:51:08
Well that was interesting...

I genuinely feel that this is a team that is not working at their full potenial, whether thats because it's just pre-season, fitness levels or maybe the coaching(Di Matteo).

I feel though that we lack real quality in the two holding midfield positions (excluding Ramires). Mikel has a couple of decent games and then goes back to his old self of backwards and sideways passing. Lampard as we all know is a legend at the club but i'm afraid to say that he has been average over pre-season, he seems to lose the ball alot and sometimes slows the attack down. Essien has been showing signs of coming back to his bombarding self but still lacks energy and direction. I'm not going to comment on Meireles as he will probably be leaving but on the Romeu front I still think that he has alot of maturing to do and from what i've seen of him at the Olympics he is still maturing and is a bit careless on the ball, but I still have high hopes for him. I think maybe in January we should look into signing a midfielder (e.g.Fernando) as we need to bluster up the midfield area.

For a general comment on tonights match it seems that the defence has been poor throughout the tour and hasn't been compact enough and lacked solidity, without Cole and Terry we look lost and that worries me for the start of the season if Terry is banned for the potenial 8 games by the FA. The midfield attacking talents look very promising and look set for the season, defensively work needs to be done, so we shall wait and see about that. So finally to the forward options. Fernando looked in MY opinion okay tonight, it was his first football back admittedly he lacked sharpeness but had some decent touches. I believe Lukaku most definitely needs to go on loan and get some competitive game time and Sturridge isn't good enough cover for Fernando. If I was Chelsea's board I would look into Lewandowski, who for me would be the perfect addition to the club. He is a very skillful and talented player who has played and lead the front line of the best team in Germany and would come at around 20-25 million which would be a great price as its not too much of a big money signing to put pressure on Fernando yet if he is miss-firing could fit in and do the job.

Would love your thoughts lads!

PR!

For me Lewondowski is not versatile enough for the squad. I doubt he will be happy playing second fiddle to Torres all season considering how good he has been over the past couple of seasons.

Your slating di matteo already .... bet you loved him on the 19th may at about 11 oclock at night go away

Agree, we need a change in tactics, we are so slow and the final third play is utter s***, iknow its only pre season but we need to play much better if we are to compete.

cali

Yer i loved him but if he cant sort out a decent defence and a midfield that actually do their job with the players weve got he aint gunna be here long. di mo is good at shuting up shop defensive, counter atgack football. even the board dont have faith. a 2 year contract, with a clause we can send him of after 1 year.

That clause is incase guadiola wants to sign not because they lack faith in di mo you tool

i will say again its pre season our players dont even try hard {Ed002's Note - Not true.}

Do you realise how hot and humid it was in miami last night, i'd be surprised if the players weren't slow, or whatever it is you're saying, i don't even want to waste my time reading it. it is pre-season it's not about performances but about getting fit. grow the f**k up and get behind the boys and stop slating them for something most of you could never dream of doing

trueblue012

Ok ed well the clause isnt because they lack faith in him

they wouldnt of signed him full time if they didnt have faith in him

Where did I state that I want Robbie out?! I was asking the users of this website their opinions, using possible reasons!

PR!

29 Jul 2012 01:40:18
We need a new striker if cavani is not available we should try for lewondowski or huntelaar we need goals desperatly

29 Jul 2012 01:16:43
ramires on the righjt aint gunna work he aint as effective as wen in middle, lampard mikel wont work. without terry in defence they look lost at the bak, lukaku aint ready. easy and obvious to see i hope di matteo sees it! cuz if not i can see a not so good season ahed

Yes this is all very true. Ramires is a lost cause out wide and I don't think we can play this sexy football Roman wants until our defensive midfielders change. Mikel always jogs back and we need a player hungrier than Lampard. We don't move the ball quickly from deep positions.

That was worrying. RDM better sort things out, and quickly because there will be no excuses available with the squad we have if we carry on playing like that. Saw the man city/arsenal game and both would have beaten us today,and badly as well.

We've already seen lamps and mikel can work together, i agree with you about ramires. lukaku was never going to be starting too many games this season anyway, he has been the only striker we've had for the tour until tonight

trueblue012

It's not a matter of them being able to work together but being able to do what the club needs them to do to be successful. Agree 100% on the original post though. I took the same things out of the game.

Tk

Only time ive seen them do well was when we was defensive. whn we want to attack they are far to slow. look how easy milan got in behind our midfield.

Its a pre season match im sure if everyone has noticed that ramires doenst work as well on the wing RDM will have as well, pre season is all about fitness and testing players in different areas of the pitch, have faith im sure come first game of the season everyones minds will have changed.