Chelsea Banter Archive October 27 2015

27 Oct 2015 22:32:25
dont understand why RLC didn't play. or why kenedy and traore START. willian and hazard have played full 90 mins 3 times in a week plus that extra time and especially when our next match is against liverpool on a saturday lunchtime why can't jose take a slight bloody risk to start the youngsters? now it looks like playing with a full team has just gone tto pure waste and could potentially affect our performance against liverpool. these things really are frustrating about jose.

27 Oct 2015 22:45:13
Who cares about what's minutes they have played. They haven't even started the season yet. They run towards each other instead of sprinting runs in behind or atleast in yo space. Atleast Kennedy and traore did that. Basic football. Bye Jose, respect him so much but it's obvious his football tactics don't suit our players. Need someone in to play quick passing attacking football.

27 Oct 2015 22:55:54
Think Jose was trying to get some players back to top form, and I would not blame him for this loss. He can;t control the final shot, the misplaced pass in and around the penalty area. and there were signs of improvement eg in periods of the match Hazard did produce some wonderful tricky runs but not a goal and then missed the final penalty. hope that doesn't set back his confidence again. Oscar looked great in first half playing fairly high up pitch, faded a bitked to play deeper. Costa looked god for time he lasted. Willian and Ramiries tireless, but with inaccurate shooting and Ramires with mislaid passes. Zuma energetic, but he doesn't look, and isn't, a practise right back. Baba ok, didn't particularly impress either way. A pity we lost the penalty shoot out lottery -- a win in tricky match like that would have done a lot for team morale, may have kick-started a general revival. None of players played particularly badly, but we just were extremely wasteful, wasteful, wasetful with our final third passing and endless ineffective shots. though we were unlucky or their goalie made good save with the few that were on target -- we had 30 mins of extra time to break through and we couldn't with Kennedy and especially Traore injecting liveliness and looking dangerous but unable to get any composure into their shooting. Next two games loom large as potentially season defining: Liverpool this weekend then Dynamo Kiev. Win both and we may just be back on track. WE may need a bit of luck!

27 Oct 2015 23:18:31
Actually I am a bit unhappy that we have lost but the performance today was the one we saw last season (apart finishing) but we played as the team who is much better than opposition. Actually I can bring many more positives from this game than any other this season.

27 Oct 2015 23:39:58
I actually wanna. Make a huge statement and I know you all can agree or disagree as we will probably lose or maybe tie on Saturday but again everyone must take into consideration that we have been without our number one goal keeper! Yes Mou has done tons wrong with physio, attitude, player reactions and treatment but after watching the penalty shootout tonight I can't but be feeling sad and feeling a bit stooped by the fact that Bergie is not an A class goalkeeper and Courtoius is! Imagine Bayern Arsenal Man U Real Madrid Barcelona all these keepers are way better then ours! He let's in to many headers and goals! I know the players aren't playing their best fine but to fire MOU we must have Ancelotti or Simeoeone or Pep coming in and since none of those three will probably take over till next season just think about who will and what will they do!? Again I know MOU has been way out of line but again people Courtoius is huge more then huge so for everyone who says how awful we are and how bad we are playing if we had any of the above goalkeepers like our own Cech back then we can complain!

I'm really hurt on what's been with us this year but know Mou will find a job, he will coach PSG or Monaco or Inter he will succeed and his legacy will live on so before all of you throw him to the wolves cause for me besides PEP and Ancelotti and Lowe he is for sure top 5 with Klopp and Simoene also don't throw him away please cause he will haunt us one day!

28 Oct 2015 04:16:11
JETS. For me it's not about his capability to win but more with how the win comes and negative PR to the company. I don't think he is the manager to build a team that will last and build an appealing global brand that can compete with other big brands. Remember Chelsea is not UK only and to be honest we are not an appealing brand because of the way we play and how we manage our PR. Jose is too much of a short term manager and you can see from signings which have been for mature players above 25yrs and you will agree now that today's football performance is majorly for under 25yrs because of energy levels involved gone are days when players would become better at 28yr.

28 Oct 2015 13:12:58
Somebody said it earlier and really hit the nail on the head, playing nicely on the pitch and doing nice things off it don't get you supporters, winning does. Jose's a winner and the best manager in the world right now. There may be 2 managers at his level in the world and you're mad if you think they'll come here after we fire a top class manager because he's had a poor quarter of the season.

28 Oct 2015 20:47:39
TK I don't agree with you. You are trying to imply that winning can not be achieved while playing well and doing nice things. all the most successful clubs have combined all the 3 to build an appealing brand. So why do u want CFC to be good at only one of them.

29 Oct 2015 01:32:33
I'm not saying I prefer a bad image but mourinho almost gauruntees success which for me is the most important thing. Many people also don't give credit for his ability to play attractive football, he scored the most goals in a la liga season in his second year in Madrid. Jose sets his team out to win and if that means playing compact than so be it and if it means playing teams off the park so be it as well.

27 Oct 2015 21:37:44
Kennedy. Game Changer.

27 Oct 2015 21:46:44
Him and traore. The difference is they sprint and move into space. Making William look average.

27 Oct 2015 21:47:28
The difference the youngster Kenedy and Traore are making; no fear to try something. Very refreshing.

27 Oct 2015 23:03:15
Traore despite his sometimes over selfish and inaccurate shooting did impress with his movement and skills on ball - Kenedy didn't seem quite so sharp re. use of space (ie often ran out of it! ) . But agree that it was great to see something of both of them on pitch together andey get more game time, esp. Traore.

27 Oct 2015 20:00:06
Douglas Costa looks like a good player.

People on here weren't so sure about him in the summer. Just goes to show how you can't always judge how a player is going to work out.

27 Oct 2015 22:19:33
He is a good player but honestly he is in the best team in a league they dominate by a mile, almost so easy for them that anyone on the team could look like the best player in Europe. Think if he were in England he would find things a little different.

27 Oct 2015 15:38:42
What are people's thoughts for tonight's game? I don't see us winning it in normal time to be honest, Stoke will be tough and will fight hard to beat us. I'd like to see RLC and Baba get a start alongside Kennedy and ideally Traore will get some time off the bench. Hazard should get a rest and Oscar should get a start, hopefully he'll have a good game tonight. Ps any chance you think we'll see Djilibodji tonight? I'm beginning to question whether or not he's a real person! haha.

27 Oct 2015 17:11:32
Hazard needs a rest? Are you for real? He's done nothing all season to warrant needing a rest, he looks overweight and lazy he need all the minutes he can at the moment.

27 Oct 2015 17:35:45
I'd get our strongest possible 11 out again. Try and build some momentum and start showing the fans who pay week in week out that they actually give a s**t about this club and want to turn the corner. None of the players should need a rest, haven't done enough to earn it. Plus it's only October!

27 Oct 2015 18:26:39
I'd definitely make some changes. Baba and Azpi as the fullbacks, and maybe pair Cahill with Djilo in the centre. Djilo can be the agressor and Cahill can clean up behind him.
I'd also go for a Mikel-RLC-Oscar midfield 3. That way RLC can play in a box to box role, as I figure that's his best position.
Attack could be anybody, but I'd give a start to one of Traore and Kenedy. Both will play hard and are very very talented.
It should be a fun game :-)

27 Oct 2015 18:56:36
Same team as the weekend with Mikel replacing Matic and Baba replacing Azpi and Oscar for Fab.

27 Oct 2015 10:47:43
Hi all, I've only posted a few times and sporadically at that. I've just read the post that Ed001 has linked to below and it certainly makes some sense of the mystifying car crash that we are currently seeing.

I am fortunate enough to be a home and away season ticket holder so it's interesting to see the difference in the prevailing opinions at the games and on social media. When looking at Twitter I am amazed to see that there are some calling for Jose to go. That absolutely astounds me. This is our most successful manager ever and a guy who very obviously feels a deep affinity for the club. Yes, we are going through a bad time but that's when you need to circle the wagons, hunker down and back each other. I think those thinking that getting rid of Jose and bringing in another manager will inevitably lead to the same continued success (only one league though) that we had the last time he left us are kidding themselves. This squad is nowhere near as strong or as experienced.

We need to weather this storm with a manager who has give us so much. Jose is looking incredibly strained. Don't forget that his father is gravely ill in Portugal, so he is having to deal with something that is far more important whilst all of this football malarkey is going on as well.

Mistakes have been made. A late return to pre-season, a poor summer transfer strategy (the board need to take responsibility for his) and Jose needs to quit raging against the machine. However, if Jose goes what does that say about us as a club and as supporters? We have no chance of long term stability if we can't see our way through two and a half months of turbulence. Any manager in demand would be mad coming to Chelsea if we get rid of Jose as they'll know they stand no chance if we got rid of the greatest manager of his generation. Any manager that does come will only be in it for the money and whilst I don't think Jose does it purely for the love, he certainly has affection for the club.

I'm pleased to say that at the games the crowd has stuck firmly behind Jose and long may this continue. It's bad enough he has the press on his back who are trying to create a feeding frenzy. He deserves to have all of the club's supporters behind him.

Well, that's my rant over, I just needed to get that off my chest.

27 Oct 2015 13:20:04
PREACH!

27 Oct 2015 13:50:44
You said it right, Titan. He's the best manager we could hope for. All those saying they want Mourinho out would probably be fairly unhappy if he then went to United and won everything there for the next 20 years. With their budget and Mourinho as manager they'd be dominant again in English football.
The grass isn't always greener on the other side, guys ;-)

27 Oct 2015 15:34:57
Brilliant post mate, nice to see that many fans are mostly sticking by Jose. Your point about what it says about us as a club concerning stability is spot on, 2 and a half months of turbulence is NOTHING and we can't turn our backs on a club legend after it. We have to keep the faith and trust in him to turn things around.

27 Oct 2015 18:19:00
Top post, can't agree more with what you have said. The media are making a mountain out of our bad form and some fans are backing them not us. We will get out of it, an Jose is the man to get us out of it!
In Jose I trust!

27 Oct 2015 06:24:19
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Jose Under Fire

27 Oct 2015 10:10:56
Ed001 that is a very interesting and thought provoking post. It actually makes sense of the current shambles that we are seeing. I haven't read anything from the mainstream press offering this level of logical insight and clarity. Thank you.

27 Oct 2015 10:55:36
A well written superficial article highlighting what everyone knows. The Ed's with their contacts know that the problems are far more varied than she has expanded on; it doesn't excuse JM's over the top behaviour but I do think he is saying "from now on you either sack me or back me".

27 Oct 2015 13:39:31
Was the article written with insider knowledge passed on from the eds? Not to be rude, but it simply seems as if the writer has played dot to dot and come up with a story. I'm not saying what's written is necessarily wrong or anything but just seems a rather simplistic and slightly biased article.