Chelsea Banter Archive September 26 2015

26 Sep 2015 23:03:45
Why play forward when you can play sideways or backwards? Why play 1 pass when you can play 10? Why get 3 or 4 players in the opposing box when you can have 1? Why play a right-back at left-back when you can play Ivanovic there? Why play a player who can defend next to Matic when you can play Fabregas there? Answers on a postcard please Mr Mourinho!

27 Sep 2015 03:04:01
You act as if these players are easily replaced, who do we have instead of Ivanovic and Fabregas?

Baba Rahmann yes, and has he been good?

Mikel, Ramires and RLC, none of whom are as good as fabregas. We would give RLC a run of 10 games, and if he played bad, you guys would slate him saying we need results and RLC to be eased in

He can't win. And we don't deserve him.

27 Sep 2015 05:20:41
I wouldn't let her stress you, Hazard. In the last two weeks Mrs Costa has gone from - Jose tactics are outdated, to we will be top of the league come January, to this. Pretty sure she hasn't any idea how she actually feels and will continue to post depending on the results every week.

27 Sep 2015 10:41:55
Not sure about outdated tactics, the question is 'what tactics'? And what is the point of paying big money for Rahman and not playing him (while Ivanovic has been awful)? Every time RLC and Kenedy have played they have been impressive - they are young and may not be up to being starters but, with the way we've been playing, why not give them a chance? The point about Fabregas was not that he shouldn't play but that he is not a defensive midfielder and is most effective further up the pitch. How can a team perform so well last weekend and be so awful yesterday? We created nothing, we defended too deep, we were tortoise-like in our build-up, and most importantly we were out-fought - so if it's not the manager's fault tell me why? And if you two are happy with that performance yesterday you strike me as the sort of supporters who were happier when we were a yo-yo team - ahhh, the good old days eh?

27 Sep 2015 11:13:11
Ok precious, relax. Did you wake today? Had anyone died? No, then have some perspective in life.

I'm wasn't even arguing with you (I wasn't agreeing either) just pointing out you're view on the team changes game on game. Speaking of yo-yo's ;)

27 Sep 2015 11:16:15
It's not the fact I'm happy with the performance, it's the fact in willing to support the team in a time of need rather than whinge about it non stop, as if it's going to help.

Chelsea fans are spoilt. We won the league last year, so I'm willing to give the team a poor run, they'll get throug it

27 Sep 2015 11:34:30
I feel what MR's costa trying to say. We lack desire when we play, the team looks like they don't have a leader and as I was mentioning last year. That the time we lose terry we will go backwards. Also not letting young lads play when they truly deserve it is sad!

Anyway ramires really suprised me a lot as he was outstanding yesterday and even could have grabbed us the winner

26 Sep 2015 21:20:23
Rammy MOM and only played 17 minutes. Quality player. Willian the same. So many plastics wanting this new player and that new player and slating some of the players we have like the above and Mikel etc. Real Chelsea fans get behind the team, players, coaches et al all the time. Plastics support us now and someone else tomorrow. Get behind the team and REMEMBER this post probably doesn't apply to you but if it does think about it. Chelsea with passion and forever.

26 Sep 2015 21:39:18
I find it weird how we're playing so poorly. We don't even need new players. The qualities are there they're just not finding it.

26 Sep 2015 22:25:28
Jkb just because some fans are not on and can honestly critique our team does not make them "plastic" fans. We have been dreadful this season and played pretty badly the whole of 2015. If you can't see that you may be a Chelsea fan but you are not a observant one. Just because some fans have the ability to see the bigger picture and not be blinkered it does not make them "plastic fans"!

27 Sep 2015 08:18:47
JKB: Spearce96 is spot on. If you are a true supporter you will have an opinion, win, lose or draw, that is what supporters do. To blindly say 'I support them come what may' is actually being 'plastic', no thought, no opinion or observations. Even you cannot possibly think we are playing well and as Spearce96 said, with hand on heart we have not played that well all through 2015. Yesterday's first half WE looked like the team in serious trouble not Newcastle and we were saved by two players many criticise and do not score often. Something is not working and we all trust Mourinho to figure out what it is.

27 Sep 2015 09:56:42
Seeing the 'bigger picture' and 'not being blinkered' is one thing, constantly slating players who the manager and club trust is something else. The amount of times I see posts slating current players and wanting a new here and a new one there beggars belief. As do the comments which imply our manager doesn't know what he is doing! As I said in my original post though REMEMBER this probably doesn't apply to you?

27 Sep 2015 13:33:36
JKB: That is why it's a banter page. All supporters know better and we all chip in with what we think is wrong, how it could be better and who we need or do not need. If we wrote in each match and said "bad result but I'm right behind them" it would be boring. Not a single subscriber has ever influenced Mourinho but has an opinion on what he 'could' be doing wrong or who is letting him down; me I find Ramires a waste of space, Remy leaves me cold, no patience anymore with Fabregas and Costa infuriates me but the next guy probably loves all of them but dislikes others and it is interesting to read. I agree for every decent comment there is half a dozen mind numbing ones.

27 Sep 2015 14:22:27
Your all bickering like women! Calm yourselfs . Porto away let's focus on that COYB

27 Sep 2015 14:29:52
Frensham: You put forward a good and intelligent reply and I agree that a 'Banter page' is the forum for just that, banter. What I don't like is when posters come on here disrespecting our players who give their best for the club. The abuse Mikel, Rammy and to a lesser extent Willian is wrong. I can think of only one player in our history who has genuinely not cared a toss and taken the money and that was Winston Bogarde years ago. If an argument is put forward for a player being replaced and sound reasons given that is interesting reading but to put things like (example) 'Mikel needs to go now', Ramiries is a waste of space etc etc is tiresome particuarly when they are giving everything they can.

27 Sep 2015 18:12:39
JCFC: That was a discussion. The way we are playing I really do not want to think of Porto who are likely to be somewhat better than Newcastle. If anyone has the 'Blues' at the moment it is us!

26 Sep 2015 19:30:44
We need terry back in place of cahill or zouma. Even thoug zouma is young mistakes like this shouldn't be done even at league 2.

Why we not playing RLC in midfield is beyond me, he would boss the game with matic. Fabregas has been really poor and should be droped (hazard is second after him).

What a spirit does ramires showed? I would live all the player to play like him!!

Really really sad as this result is a big letdown

26 Sep 2015 19:52:33
We should character but little else. I think the issue is Ivanovic not Zouma, every one is entitled to a mistake bit Brana is all over the shop, defence, passing and don't ask him to cross the ball. I am baffled with Rahman, £20m+ for someone that might only play in European games! Fabregas is turning into a half season wonder and he must be under huge pressure. What is so disappointing is out total lack of attacking threat. We will get nowhere in Europe and will need to focus all our attention on a top four place at best otherwise it will impact any transfer dealings.

26 Sep 2015 18:57:17
Do we need an interhim now?

Its not about Ivan - Matic - Fabregas already.

We have no attacking method and get caught easily by other teams. Newcastle is the worst team in the league and scored only 1 goals in the last 6 matches but we took that title from them tonight.

Why Mou didn't use Baba. He was blindly believe in Ivan and Ivan keep killing us.

Now all I want is a CL league for next year. Never lose belief in Mou until now.

26 Sep 2015 19:30:24
We need a miracle to get top 5

26 Sep 2015 22:40:09
We will get top 4 I'm sure of it. Arsenal Manchester United Liverpool and even Man City are too inconsistent to pull away. We know what it takes to win a streak of games and I honestly believe we will sort it out and be strong after Christmas and probably but a run of wins together. KTBFFH

27 Sep 2015 06:23:54
Daton

Newcastle fan in peace here.
Why do you think we are the worst team in the league??
We have good players, and have had a huge overhaul in players,coaching staff etc. we have also had a very hard opening period in the league.
After Man City we should as start getting to mid table by Xmas.
It would be great for the big teams like yourselves to praise the opposition when they achieve a good result against you/ them.
Anyway, you are a great side and Rameires saved the day , quality player.

27 Sep 2015 14:00:31
Toonlol, you're right. You've actually got some quality players in your side. I especially like Wijnaldum, he's a really good player. If your players perform consistently and show desire and heart on the pitch you should be fine this season.

26 Sep 2015 18:25:25
Get Kenedy on and play two up front!

26 Sep 2015 18:19:07
Absolutely sterile up front, a long season ahead. You would not believe we were reigning champions, just so ordinary.

26 Sep 2015 18:08:44
Get the bourbon out, Melbourne. I might have to pull out the scotch as well.

26 Sep 2015 17:09:23
No Ruben even on the bench! Disappointed to say the least. Hope he gets some minutes vs porto

26 Sep 2015 17:15:28
Agree with you. Everything he's played he's impressed. I'd prefer him there over Willian. Willian's only decent when we're defending he can't attack at all. And no Baba again either. Decent team but unhappy with the bench.

26 Sep 2015 17:24:10
Rlc is probably better defensively than Willian and his passing is pinpoint accurate. I feel sorry for the kid because he continues to play well and not get picked in the league. And as much as I hope he does play, I doubt he'll get minutes against porto

26 Sep 2015 14:28:39
Thought I would never say that, but oh boys how much I Like tottenham right now!

If we win today (which I really hope we do)
It will be just 5 points and we are back in the mix already!

26 Sep 2015 16:01:34
You are not alone in that.

26 Sep 2015 17:19:55
It's 6 points since United predictably won.

26 Sep 2015 17:55:09
Dont think united will be challenging come.may