Chelsea Banter Archive November 26 2017

26 Nov 2017 10:09:57
It's strange how and why certain clubs are disliked by fans!
My dislikes are the obvious Chelsea ones. Leeds and Spurs.
Strangely for me they stem from the BATTLES Ossie continually had with Jack Charlton and Mike England. In particular the Mike England battles were totally brutal but Ossie gave as good as he got.
In recent years the Leeds dislike has faded for obvious and in some ways sad reasons.
The Spurs dislike has remained the same but for different reasons!
I was also thinking has there ever been a team that Jose has managed that neutral fans like?

26 Nov 2017 16:00:40
I’m not so hot on his very early career but Porto are universally disliked in Portuga”l I should think. We obviously aren’t the most popular club around, Inter have the obvious rivalry with Milan and are likely disliked by the majority of the other Italian teams although maybe not to the extent of Milan and Juventus. Real Madrid again are clearly not a popular club with the neutrals in Spain and finally Man U are the most obviously disliked club of the lot.

His very early coaching career he worked at Barcelona so again not particularly popular with neutrals.

To conclude. no!

26 Nov 2017 16:08:58
I'd say Liverpool have overtaken Leeds as the most disliked by Chelsea fans - and, like Spurs, it's all down to their supporters going on and on and on about what 'big' clubs they are. For the record: neither Spurs nor Liverpool have ever won the Premier League; the last time that Liverpool won the league was in 1990; and the last time Spurs last won the league was in 1961! Big clubs my arse!

26 Nov 2017 16:49:50
Having just got back from scouse land and spoken to a few supporters of Liverpool and Everton. I felt quite sorry for the City with NO team to support with any chance of winning the Premiership anytime soon!
A lot of Liverpool fans were very critical of Klop and the Everton fans were very angry at there board.

27 Nov 2017 05:53:20
I've always found it interesting with Liverpool, they've always had potential to win the league with the players they've had in attack and midfield in recent years. Prime torres, prime Sturridge and Suarez, now Mane and Salah and of course Gerrard. But they've always had a terrible defence. No matter what manager came in it was always the same issues. I always laughed when i saw Liverpool fans getting optimistic about winning the league. Like how can you look at your defence and think you could really compete. Only time they looked like they could do it was in the 14/ 15 season, and we all know what happened then.

27 Nov 2017 08:31:28
Its just the liverpool fans i dislike. Think they're so important. Never hear the end of anything that involves them. Bad winners and bad losers.

27 Nov 2017 08:41:50
Mines Liverpool. Not as a team but there fans, most irritating I’ve come across, make me hate them, seeing them come close and lose title with the slip was up there with my kids being born.

27 Nov 2017 11:37:49
I’m not a fan of the the term “hate” but I understand how emotional football can become.
I’m to old to think of football in any other may than an enjoyable game but for some people it’s a lot more than that.
My thing about Liverpool isn’t the fans it’s how many ex Liverpool players end up as pundits!

25 Nov 2017 21:31:33
Bakayoko was poor today, there's no denying that. However I do still believe he will turn out to be a good player for us, right now he needs a bit of protection from Conte - benching him for a couple of games will probably do him some good.

A lot more highly rated players have struggled with the speed and intensity of the prem in their first seasons.

26 Nov 2017 05:47:16
He's been shocking all year. He's sloppy, can't pass and loses the ball 5 times a game. Can honestly not believe people on here were sayinghes an improvement on matic, he's not even an improvement on Chalobah.

26 Nov 2017 06:57:20
The reason people believed Bakayoko would be a upgrade on Matic was reasonable.
Matic was average last year and truly awful the year before.
Chalaboa is a different subject and I confess to being a massive fan. Shame about his injury but I still hope to see him back playing and I think he can make the Workd Cup squad.

26 Nov 2017 09:58:08
Bakyoko has been excellent v spurs man united athletico so we can see how good he is. it’s just adapting to intensity of league and games are thick and fast, I’m not going to write him off just yet but was poor yesterday, chalobah is the one that got away. Really gutted he left,

26 Nov 2017 10:22:46
Baka has had more poor games than average ones. Good ones are far and few. He hasn't settled properly. I will not write him off but he is coming across very lazy off the ball and sloppy with his passing. Gulf in class between him and Kante. He needs a rest for sure.

26 Nov 2017 13:10:27
Bottom line is not every player hits the ground running. Not every player settles in this league, especially coming from the French league. He has had some very good performances. However like yesterday he seems like a rabbit caught in the headlights. Yesterday it was all going on around him. I think he has a good engine and is strong. Sometimes players need guidance from players around them. I don’t think he got that yesterday. He got better as the game went on. He will be an improvement on Matic. People on here go on about matic, but the majority wanted him sold as he had been poor. I think Bakayoko will be fine, we will see the best of him later in the season when he settles in.

26 Nov 2017 16:14:06
Baka is 21 years old for Christ's sake - give him a break - Conte has admitted that he wanted to keep Matic to ease Baka into the side (proves Conte was right but £40m+ from Man U was hard to turn down) . With Drinkwater getting up to speed, I expect to see a Kante / Drinkwater combo a lot more.

26 Nov 2017 16:53:42
Now Drinwater is fit Bayakoko could do with a rest and told to watch Kante who does not waste any energy and picks up the intensity of a match straight away which varies according to the quality of team we play. As the season has worn on Bayakoko seems to panic and gets clumsy and gives the ball away but he is very quick and athletic and this season if handled sensibly could be a real asset next year; remember Drogba looked like all over the place in his first season. As far as Matic is concerned I don't think we should miss him, he has done little of note since his over hyped first two games and that $40m was good business.

27 Nov 2017 08:32:37
Drogba was rubbish in his first season.

28 Nov 2017 11:05:17
True!