Chelsea Banter Archive July 26 2011
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26 Jul 2011 21:57:01
Hello PEOPLE
I've just watched Genk game and payed attention how Chelsea target DeBruyne plays. Well Genk won thanks to greek referee one goal after penalty wich was typical match body and second goal from pure offside position, DeBruyne's team played terrible match.
DeBruyne was presented in media as LW. Well this guy mainly use his right leg so if he is winger he is probably right winger. Also he played most of the game as creative CM and I must admit he is excellent in that position much better than winger as played some time on that position. 1 on 1 he better than Pastore even his creative skills are also better.
DeBruyne would be excellent signing for Chelsea since probably Genk will not pass further afer 2:1 winn and really bad performance.
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Keep in mind that Genk was playing Partizan in the 3rd round of the CL. Would DeBruyne look better than Pastore if he were playing against Inter, Milan, Juve, Udinese, etc. week in and week out?
I'm not saying the the kid is bad, but it's not fair to compare 2 players from 2 different leagues/level of competition.
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As I remember Partizan played CL last season, they actualy manage to past Anderlecht.
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Lol So beating another Belgian team makes it more impressive?
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Man i also watched the game, let me tel you partizan trashed genk DeBruyne was the best player of genk he also hit the crosbar.
I dont think genk will pullthru in the second game, what do you think do we have better chance of signing DeBruyne if genk doesnt pass to the next round?
Cause he will be a great play in a couple of years probably wind up as a AMF.
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Man i also watched the game, let me tel you partizan trashed genk DeBruyne was the best player of genk he also hit the crosbar.
I dont think genk will pullthru in the second game, what do you think do we have better chance of signing DeBruyne if genk doesnt pass to the next round?
Cause he will be a great play in a couple of years probably wind up as a AMF.
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Man i also watched the game, let me tel you partizan trashed genk DeBruyne was the best player of genk he also hit the crosbar.
I dont think genk will pullthru in the second game, what do you think do we have better chance of signing DeBruyne if genk doesnt pass to the next round?
Cause he will be a great play in a couple of years probably wind up as a AMF.
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I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH YOU YES I THINK GENK WILL SELLL DEBRUYNE TO US IF THEY DO NOT PASS PARTIZAN.
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26 Jul 2011 21:46:46
I will assume that the posters on here are reading the same media links that I am based on the questions about every possible player being linked to us... But nobody seems to allude to the one fact that is being mentioned more and more recently: That Chelsea only have 1 more spot open for a foreign player. It seems like most of the players we want to see leave (i.e. Malouda, Anelka, maybe Zhirkov) either do not want to leave or simply nobody wants them. So my question is does Villas Boas have to sign english players or very young players that can maybe qualify as homegrown in a couple of years? He basically has to let the aforementioned players run their contracts out and sign 1 foreign player?
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Noo, he can sign as many as he wants, and then just dont pick kalou anelka and bosinwa for our final squad lol
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26 Jul 2011 20:43:29
Hey everyone, loads of people here discuss the players they think AVB should be looking at so i just thought i would chuck my ore in and see what others had to say. My question therefore is if you had AVBs ear for an hour or so, who would you recomend to him we sign?
I think i would start at the back, possibly suggesting we move Alex on, focus Branislav at CB (where he wants to play) and look at VDW.
We cleary need width, i think Neymar may be good for us but as that looks more unlikely i would like to see Adam J, Mata, maybe Tomas Muller and Eden Hazard (who would be my first target, he has great potential)
creative mid next, as well as Pastore i would drop interest in Mordic as the prices is obscene and look instead at Toni Kroos, who is young, strong and creative, i think he would do well in the prem. Other than that i tihnk we have a good player in Oriol Romeu and the rest of the squads mid is good enough.
Upfront Lukaku is the only player i would consider really, we have a lot of talent upfront.
Anway what would you do?
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Spot on muller is a class player
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My ideal (more realistic, than anything) team would be:
Cech (GK)
Ivanovic (RB - although I think another season out of position and we will definitely lose him; possible deal with RM for Ramos next year?)
Luiz (CB)
Terry (CB)
Cole (LB)
Ramires (CM)
Lampard (CM - yes, old.. but experienced and still able to play 30+ games a season)
Pastore (CAM)
Mata (LW - over Neymar. I honestly believe Mata's price of around 20M euros is the deal of the summer if someone can do it)
Torres (CF)
Sturridge (RW - my worst choice position-wise.. I just think with his pace, strength and eye for goal, he may flourish.. although I know he is not keen on playing out of position)
Possible other in's:
Modric instead of Lamps/Ramires (CM)
Drogba - I pray he stays; huge fan.
Josh Mc - future star.
Romeu - I hope he gets games
Di Maria - just hopeful of more pace and natural width.
Ideas?
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Well mate, Ivanovic is RB in his national team( sure comp.is strong Vidic, Subotic, Bisevac, Lukovic, Rajkovic).
I do not see that he has right to choose pos.in Chelsea.
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Adam johnson, juan mata, gregory van der wiel, javier pastore, marek hamsik. 130 million? sel, l kalou 15 m, anelka 10m, bosinwa 8 m, mikel 15 m. thtas 50 million back
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You say that but he effectively can, if he doesnt want to play RB any more, he can do what jerome boateng did and force a move away, or be a bit more subtle and play out his contract and leave for free. An unhappy footballer has a lot of power now a days.
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Why won't he play at RB he was so good at it during our double title season
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Branislav is awesome in RB as well as CB position i dont he has any problem playing in any of those positions, he was PFA RB of 2010 season he also plays RB in Serbia national team, he even lead the Serbian u21 team to silver couple of years back also playing RB.So i dont think there is any problem there we dont need to waste any money signing any new RB Luis can also fill in as a RB.
Agree with your ideal team realistic and cheap if we could only sign Mata but i dont believe he is so cheap if he is what the hell are you waiting for sign him or Di Maria we despereatly need a winger along with AMF but I believe Pastore will come real soon.
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26 Jul 2011 19:45:59
WE HAD A GOOD SIDE YEARS AGO OH WELL
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26 Jul 2011 19:33:59
why does ivanovic want to play centre back and not right back.he wont start ahead of terry or luiz and would definately start ahed of bosingwa
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26 Jul 2011 18:25:10
Chelsea 2011/2012
Cech
Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Cole
Modric, Ramires, Lampard
Adam Johnson, Torres, Malouda
(not much will change)
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So you basically only bring in the overpriced Modric, who won't add anything that Benayoun can't do, and one foot/lightweight Adam Johnson?
Why do people insist on starting Malouda? His playing is only passable against inferior clubs.
You're right - not much will change with that lineup, including the lack of silverware from last season.
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Cech,
wiel, terry, luiz, aanholt
mata, hamsik, ramires, pastore, johnson
torres
hilario, mceachran, kakuta, drogba, ivanovic, lampard, rajkovic
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I love how the "experts" who post starting XI's at this site always use the tabloids rumoured player transfer du jour. Suddenly Adam Johnson is making every team. Don't you people have enough of an imagination to choose new players on your own or do you always go by what the Daily Mail tells you?
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26 Jul 2011 15:12:24
he cud b thinking of doing a diamond sumtimes
mikel/rommeu
modric/lamp mcheachran/rami
pastore/benayou
torres/sturridge drogba/lukaku
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So Torres is a RW now? Ironically, all 4 strikers that you have listed prefer to play up front, in the middle, and alone.
I really doubt that we'll sign both Modric and Pastore. We may not sign anyone.
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Torres is not places as a RW. he is placed as an 'option' upfront alongisde antoher striker. 4-4-2 (diamond) does not have any wingers.
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To the second poster (the one who replied) the first guy isnt sayin torres as a RW he is giving choices between nando, danny, didi and lukaku as a front two
everyone read posts before they reply
so in answer to your question no torres isnt a RW now
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26 Jul 2011 14:41:32
If Chelsea do get Modric and Pastore, who will start in midfield.
Chelsea should start focusing on wingers before we get carried going for central midfielders.
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Did you really mean Modric *OR* Pastore? I really can't see us spending over £70M for 2 midfielders.
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26 Jul 2011 08:38:06
I think the eds need to chill out after all this is a chelsea rumours page so that is what it should be.
Time after time i look down the page and see an ed saying (im not going to speculate as people will say i have got things worng and i said we were going to sign this player and that player.)
If you dont give us rumours then maybe you should change the name of your website. I logon evey day as i like to know whats going on with the club. So what if you get things wrong its a rumours page you are going to get things wrong as this is football.
Maybe you should not be so pedantic and just get on with your job instead of thinking about what other people think all of the time. {Ed002's Note - You clearly don't understand the purpose of the page or the role of the editors. The principle is for posters to record and discuss rumours and editors to moderate the posts for inappropriate language etc.. It is not for me to post rumours. As I am in a position to answer questions I will when they are not repeated, dumb etc..}
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