Chelsea Banter Archive January 26 2019

 

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26 Jan 2019 22:19:12
I don't care how much promise he has.

I don't care if it will come back and bite us.

I don't care about the criticism we'll get for not bringing youth players through.

I don't care if he's done it because of poor advice.

If Hudson-Odoi has handed in a transfer request, a boy of 18 still learning his trade has handed in a transfer request, because of a lack of first team game time then that boy needs to go! Accept the offer, sell him, and move on.

Terry, Lampard, Cole, Drogba, Cech, Hazard, Makalele - none of the players that came before him during our recent history of success, some of the best players in the world, were bigger than the club. No player, or staff member, has ever been bigger than the club.

This boy most certainly isn't bigger than the club.

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26 Jan 2019 22:23:49
Absolutely J.

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26 Jan 2019 22:27:40
Terrific post. I wouldn't sell him to Bayern, I would sell him to Leipzig. If he wants to leave so badly, he won't care where. Been tapped up by Bayern's top brass.

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26 Jan 2019 23:03:15
I wouldn't care where he went. He wants out, he can give to the highest bidder.

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26 Jan 2019 23:38:20
It's a unfortunate situation tbh. Chelsea have done all they can in trying to keep him but it's obvious his head has been turned by Bayern. I understand CHO wanting to play but it's clear you're highly rated by the club and fans, you're continuing to learn and you've had more chances with the 1st team at his age than any other youth product in years. If he has no intent to be patient and work his way into the team, similar to what Ruben has been doing, then good riddance. We have two ageing wingers and another who's future is in doubt, he should be waiting until the Summer to make a decision if he really wanted to be here.

Of course if i was him looking at the youth that's come and gone in recent years i'd question whether i should move on as well, but it's clear we rate him much higher than previous players. As you said no player is bigger than the club, especially not an 18 year old. If he goes hopefully we'll look to bring in Pepe with the money. He likes Chelsea and has all the attributes to be a success here, especially being a left footed right winger.

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27 Jan 2019 00:48:02
Well said J. My only problem is Chelsea have Brought this upon themselves the guy played out of his skin and then didn’t play again for half a season. Chelsea have failed another youth product in my opinion through lack of first team football and it’ll cost us once again. He’ll be a star in Germany and I’ll be following his success.

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27 Jan 2019 01:59:48
Yes j totally pal good words the time and effort we’ve put in from youth and repays in this way get rid and he will do well in a rubbish league.

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27 Jan 2019 05:51:08
What are you on about Nibby. Cho owes Chelsea nothing. He has nothing to repay. He’s good enough and we haven’t found a spot for him. He’ll do well at Munich.

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27 Jan 2019 07:35:40
Played out his skin? When? Against forest? Against some
Turd in Europa league? Hmm,

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27 Jan 2019 08:35:17
Spot on J. The quicker we move away from this chapter the better now. Chelsea may not even accept his request.

Do you guys think that the club will be looking to replace CHO this month if he is sold? Any input from Eds will be appreciated?

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{Ed001's Note - he is only a reserve, there is no need to replace him.}

27 Jan 2019 08:00:54
I don't even think it's a case of being angry about the time and effort the club have put in.

It's simply a case of, for whatever reason, he no longer wants to be at the club. No club should keep a player who doesn't want to be there.

I do think that the club is steadily bringing him through, and he shouldn't be demanding more mins at this stage of his career, but it's his choice.

I think he'll have a very good career, but if he doesn't want it to be at Chelsea, to the point where he is handing in a transfer request, then sell him. It's a disappointing situation but good luck at Bayern.

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27 Jan 2019 08:58:30
Isn’t three wingers - Four if Morata is included - a bit few though? .

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{Ed001's Note - that is nothing to do with Odoi though, the club were looking to buy even if he stayed.}

27 Jan 2019 09:08:07
CFC Adam Willian and Pedro can’t even play well against turd in the Europa league let alone premier league teams. I’m finished discussing Hudson-Odoi anyway the toxicity of some of you fans slagging off players is a joke. I support him and his desisuon regardless of the outcome.

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27 Jan 2019 09:12:15
Ed001 well that tells, how do you think we have handled Hudson-Odoi?

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{Ed001's Note - personally I think the club's made a mess of their handling of youth for a long time. They seem to be viewed more as assets for future sale then potential first team players.}

27 Jan 2019 09:35:09
prob is football is a business now that's the difference theses days.

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{Ed001's Note - sadly you are right, but they should remember that the key to this business is that winning trophies is the way to make the biggest money.}

27 Jan 2019 09:55:35
Maybe they'll change their ways, constantly changing managers and not trusting youth players, when they stop winning trophies then?

It's got to be said our silverware record over the last 10 years hasn't given them a reason to change their ways.

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{Ed001's Note - yet you are looking much weaker every season because of it. This is a long, slow process and it will be too late if they wait until silverware stops coming.}

27 Jan 2019 10:18:52
Cheers ed. Sad to see it.

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{Ed001's Note - welcome mate.}

27 Jan 2019 11:44:01
Don't know why I said Morata and not RLC, which was what I meant. But a bit curious that the plan has always been to buy another winger regardless of CHO leaving? Or perhaps that was simply due to my brain fart? ;)

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{Ed001's Note - Chelsea have been looking to sign players for that role anyway, which is probably a large part of the reason the lad wants to go.}

27 Jan 2019 12:38:13
Okay thanks!

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{Ed001's Note - welcome.}

26 Jan 2019 22:09:45
If Hudson-Odoi wants to go, then sell him to Leipzig for less, rather than Bayern. Can't let their bullying tactics succeed. Has clearly been tapped up in private and his agent has fed him a dream.

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{Ed0333's Note - the dream off playing first team football.

26 Jan 2019 22:21:11
Ed0333, you honestly think he will start at Bayern ahead of Coman, Muller, Gnabry and potentially Fekir and Pepe after the summer?

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{Ed0333's Note - Coman is a right footer who prefers playing on the left, Muller plays through the middle, Gnabry prefers the left hand side and Fekir is a playmaker. Has Pepe signed for Bayern yet? So yes I think Odoi will get game time.

26 Jan 2019 22:32:44
Going to have to disagree with you there. Hudson-Odoi would rather play on the left cutting inside that on the right. And as Ed002 has said, Bayern plan on signing at least 2 first team wingers in addition to Hudson-Odoi. He'll end up regretting the move massively. I could understand him going to a lesser side to get first team football, but at Bayern he has no chance.

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{Ed0333's Note - no one knows if it will be a success or a failure. At least he’s put himself in a position to take a risk. He seems to have the courage of his convictions.

26 Jan 2019 22:44:41
One man's courage is another's naivety.

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{Ed0333's Note - and one mans naivety is another’s dream

26 Jan 2019 22:57:03
Despite being annoyed that he's leaving, I have a huge amount of respect for CHO for turning down the money to go and play first team football. Hopefully he turns out to be a top player and wants to come back to us, but highly unlikely. I wish him all the best and hope everyone else will.

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{Ed0333's Note - supremely gracious well done JD.

27 Jan 2019 02:04:27
No bad information from is agent wanting to make money terrible league to play in one big game all year in the league to play let him go if they thought he was that good we would offer him the world most likely like there trying to get ready for hazard.

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27 Jan 2019 12:33:52
JD, aren't Bayern offering him £80,000 a week? Turning down money, my arse!

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26 Jan 2019 23:05:29
Well Ed0333 clearly we are going to disagree on this. I think he has made himself look very bad and is taking a massive massive gamble. Renato Sanches did the same and now he can barely get an appearance, less a start.

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{Ed0333's Note - the difference is Sanches is S**t

26 Jan 2019 21:57:32
ID play for MY club chelsea for my wages I get now!
The days of players like JOHN TERRY, Adams Tony Adams. Carragher Jamie Carragher. Gerrard Steven Gerrard. Giggs Ryan Giggs. Maldini Paolo Maldini. Puyol Carlos Puyol. Scholes Paul Scholes are long gone!

and he says he's a chelsea fan
. yeah right. sorry I sound really sour.

gutted to be honest.

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26 Jan 2019 21:08:01
big question.

I wonder if he plays tomorrow (CHO) ?

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26 Jan 2019 22:04:44
Don’t play him, his not interested in making it here just wants time to impress Bayern. Sell and invest it straight away.

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26 Jan 2019 22:11:02
If the transfer request is true, I hope not. Send him back to the youth teams and let his contract run down.

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{Ed0333's Note - and lose out on a 40 million for an 18 year old what planet do you live on? And I hope you’re getting specialist help wherever that maybe.

26 Jan 2019 22:22:00
that's cos football now is a business. football. has changed a lot in the last 15 year's or so.

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26 Jan 2019 22:26:04
He could have handed in a transfer request three weeks ago and given us more of a chance to sign a replacement.

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27 Jan 2019 00:08:21
Why do we need to replace him? We've got Pulisic coming in the Summer. Sorted, it's not a massive loss. He's got potential and at the moment that's all it is. He's hardly changed the dynamics of the team. Good luck to the boy. But no 18 year old is bigger then the club, no matter how good they could be. There will be others that could become the next JT and th next big thing from the academy. We'll be fine, he'll be fine. We go on.

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27 Jan 2019 09:46:00
i think he's a big loss in the long run based on his potential but right now we won't notice as he's not getting amy minutes. if he wants to play let him off u can't ever fault a player for turning down big money to go an play more football elsewhere. he played well any game iv seen him i think he should of got more minutes personally cause i don't like willian or pedro think der both average but im not the coach so what do i no. i wonder if christensen will push for a move next he's played very little and if any player should be frustrated its him after been a big part in the starting 11 last season. luiz an rudi have been veru good do so hard to drop either.

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26 Jan 2019 20:09:10
Apparently CHO has handed in a transfer request now.

I think Chelsea should get rid for 40m. He can do what he wants in Germany. We've never seen him in the first team properly so it doesn't make a difference to me. He has huge potential but has done nothing yet. He may become a star in Germany but that doesn't make you a star in the premier league. So i won't be too bothered if he goes and does well in Munich. let's be honest if he stays he will compete with Pulisic next year for a position in the team. If Hazard goes then expect a marquee signing.

Anyway when a kid has the audacity to request for a transfer after everything the club has given him is a disgrace. As a 17 year old who has just turned 18 should know better and not think that he demands a first team spot at a massive club like Chelsea. He would have had his opportunity now but its obvious he has no patience. let's hope his career turns out better than Solanke.

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26 Jan 2019 20:20:42
Handing in a transfer request at 18 just when your breaking into the first team. Sounds to me like his got some bad advises about him. Bayern are a big club and no doubt will invest in the squad so he may end up on there bench. silly boy if you ask me, meant to be a fan too, 35/ 40 million for a player who doesn’t want to be here, let him go and get Nicolas Pepe,

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26 Jan 2019 20:41:33
I can't believe the boy. The club should get rid and find the next best talent out there. The club has done their best and shouldn't be blamed for this rubbish.

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26 Jan 2019 20:43:36
Brandt or Bailey from Leverkusen will do fine.

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26 Jan 2019 20:54:23
Bailey isn't having the greatest season. PEPE all day long on this yrs looks.

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26 Jan 2019 21:38:46
Silly boy. His been ill advised. His probably thinking about all the youngsters that have failed before him. If that is the case then he doesn't have the right mentality anyway. Look not further than RLC who is a brilliant example of how to make it at chelsea.

Pepe all the way for me on current form. However will cost an arm and a leg.

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{Ed0333's Note - one minute you’re slagging the guy off for wanting to play first team football? He clearly believes in his ability and signing Pulisic in his position doesn’t give him any assurances that he’ll be playing much next season I for one don’t blame him. 40 million quid for a reserve is absurd, I’d be biting their hands off for that kind of cash.

26 Jan 2019 21:58:36
Pepe has end product. Unsure on Bailey now.

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26 Jan 2019 22:16:20
The life of a footballer is short. He Has a decision to make best for his future and he may believe it’s munich. I think the same, he’ll find it easier and be a star there meanwhile we’ve just spent 60 million on Pulusic. I know the transfer may not be related but if hazard doesn’t leave, one of Willian/ Pedro will be staying maybe two of them and then CHO will be left behind. It’s as simple as that. We should have been playing him a lot this season and it’s clear that he’s still not completely in Sarri’s plans. Last straw if he doesn’t start next game.

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26 Jan 2019 22:26:23
I agree ed. BUT . he's also got to look harder and think HAZARD may be off . plus Pedro and Willian is in that 30 category. so it's him and PULISIC. patience doesn't seem to exist theses days. it's all rush rush rush. he just turned 18. doing the best job in the world, what's the rush!

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{Ed0333's Note - I admire him for wanting to try a new culture at such a young age. What a superb life experience it will be for him. It may come as a shock but he owes Chelsea nothing.

26 Jan 2019 22:31:26
Ed33 i would sell now mate. Of course would have liked to see him develop at chelsea but a transfer request at 18 is absurd. Tbh if he does go then pulisuc replaces.

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{Ed0333's Note - why is a transfer request at 18 absurd? Hasn’t he the right to navigate his own destiny?

27 Jan 2019 02:13:29
Time and effort loyalty that’s what it’s about little things in life that mean a lot. Families friends are built on these he’s shown NONE what’s he done for us nothing over the years what has the staff mangement done for him a lot he get to a curtain age and demands things he does ow us but he’s made his mind up so let him go. Principals are all wrong young man.

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27 Jan 2019 00:42:03
100% ed0333. I can not believe some of the fans on here saying it’s absurd lmao.

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{Ed0333's Note - I think a lot of the distractors are coming from an emotional not an objective perspective

26 Jan 2019 19:44:38
If CHO were to leave, surely the club would buy a replacement? Wondering if they'd be willing to buy a player like Nicolas Pepe or if they'd go for a cheaper option? Sarri seems keen to use Willian on The left, so perhaps Fekir might be brought in for The right wing?

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26 Jan 2019 19:56:54
They should spend the money on the best young talent they can find.

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26 Jan 2019 18:46:52
If the rumours are true that Bayern have now offered £40m for CHO, surely we should take the money:

1) for a player that wants to leave;

2) for an 18 year old who is just potential at the moment?

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26 Jan 2019 19:59:13
he handed in a transfer request.

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26 Jan 2019 20:07:30
what I don't get is . he is going to have the same problem at Munich this year. there is top class in front of him until the end of the year.
same as chelsea. hazard may leave and Pedro. and Willian haven't got long left.
for someone who has spend his whole career so far at Chelsea and has only turned 18 and in the first team squad . I think. is showing lack of respect. theses youngsters want everything yesterday. bring back only school footballers . cleaning boots and learning there trade. players have to much power.

rant over.

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26 Jan 2019 20:43:10
Let him go and play in an awful league.

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26 Jan 2019 15:22:28
Hoping to see Alonso and Willian start tomorrow so they don't against Bournemouth Wednesday. Unsure if Christensen is fit but I'd start Cahill if he's still here. Loftus-Cheek off the bench to get 30 minute before Wednesday hopefully. Higuain off after 60 ready for Wednesday as well. Here my 11 guys.

Caballero

Zappacosta Cahill Christensen Alonso

Kovacic Ampadu Barkley

Hudson-Odoi Higuain Willian.

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Jorge Sampaoli

26 Jan 2019 13:16:14
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new manager profile about, Jorge Sampaoli

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Review Of The Day 26th January 2019

26 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 26th January 2019

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26 Jan 2019 12:16:55
Thanks for these ed, these are always easy to read and enjoyand summarise what’s going on. Who do you think will get promoted from championship and relegated from premier league? Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate glad you enjoy.

Relegated I think the bottom 3 now will go, none are good enough to turn it around.

As for promoted, I am going for Leeds (but that is bias as I love Bielsa), West Brom and Middlesbrough. Though you could pick almost anyone in the top 10 in that division.}