Chelsea Banter Archive January 26 2013

26 Jan 2013 21:26:10
whole january is going to pass and rafa benitez has now realized that chelsea squad is not large enough. he pointed out that we do not have ball winners & prople who can play long ariel passes to hitman upfront. he is probably right, but he must have told the board about these things bit earlier. I do not find te logic here that two of our highly earning players have been doing nothing since season began. florent malouda should have been utilized. and if essien is good enough to play for real madrid, then what is the problem playing for chelse

kings xi punjab chelsea brisbane roar.

Yes 100 percent right. Benitez is all in all a ****. if we win he says everything is fine when we lose the squads to small. he never takes the blame for his terrible substitutions or wrong tactics. I actually hate him. BLUEBOY1

26 Jan 2013 18:18:15
Chances of willian moving to chelsea before end of january?

26 Jan 2013 13:52:50
My ideal Chelsea squad for next season:

Manager: Jose Mourinho, Assistant manager: Paulo Ferreira

GK: Cech, Courtois, Blackman
RB: Azpiliqueta, Kalas, Wallace
LB: Cole, Bertrand
CB: Cahill, Ivanovic, Terry. Ideally, i'd like us to go all out and get Hummels. If not, we'd be ok with Kalas and Luiz filling in if needed be.

CM: Luiz, Ramires, Romeu, Xabi Alonso. (Xabi is not extending with Real and wants to return to England. He's still the best at what he does. Would cost little and provide wirld class service for a couple of years at least). If it's not happening, then I guess, it must be Fellaini, of course (but for the Ramires money and nothing awkward like the rumoured 30 million).

Attackers: Hazard, Mata, Moses. De Bruyne, Oscar, a solid winger. I think we lack an industrious player in the mold of Valencia. There are certain games, where we need to shut down the wide threat and have noone to throw in there, other than Ramires. He's ok on the wing, but does not offer crossing or passing there. So I say Valancia or similar type player.

Forwards: Cavani, Lukaku, Ba, Schurrle. It may look too crowded, but it ain't. First of all Cavani plays on either side and the pole position. In certain formations can play as a left of 4-3-3, a second striker or an attacking midfielder in 4-2-3-1. Schurrle offers same positional value. Ba and Lukaku as center forwards, option off of the bench.

Season is long and at our size, with this type of squad and ambition we are in for a run of 65 games. It takes big squad to compete in all the games. We can't risk be shorthanded as we are right now, or face similar fate.

A lot of contracts are running out. It is also time to identify tjose who won't make it and sell them.

JG

I haven't gone through the numbers, qualifications, nationality etc but I suspect that the suaq you suggest is several players more than we would be allowed.
In terms of keepers I very very much doubt that you are ever see Chec and Courtois is the same Chelsea squad.I just have this sneaky feeling that one of them, proabably Chec will be sold and in view of his age, experience & ability would command a decent fee

Before you check all the details being squad size etc (which JG has got spot on) maybe do some research on how to spell on current keepers name.

Melbourne CFC

Melborne

Ok I transposed two letters there was me thinking that we had got passed all this trying to be smart by pulling some one up because of spelling. You knew full well what I was saying so stop trying to be smart.

The point I was making is that in that 25 man squad are there 8 homegrown player? are there any players named under 21 (Blackman, Piazon) under 21 if so they don't need to be counted in the 25
Come on Melborne engage in debate stop trying to be superior.

Sign your posts mate and I will happily join in on a debate with you. Whether or not I understood what you meant, the fact you spelt Cech wrong on more than one occasion, to me, says a lot about you as a supporter.

There wouldn't be 8 HG players in JG's squad, but rules stipulate nothing regarding HG players in EPL squads.

Rules stipulate that an EPL squad can only have 17 'foreign' or non English players.

JG's squad only has 14. The rest is English or under 21. Hence my earlier reply saying JG has got it spot on.

Didn't mean to come off as 'superior' no name, but maybe in future you can sign your posts and begin to add to the site. From using the site for many years, I can assure you the only thing that really gets on the regulars nerves is no name posters that offer nothing.

Melbourne CFC

I'll be honest I just skip past Melbourne's posts now. Never agrees with anything anyone ever says, slags off new posters or unnamed posts. What is his problem? If you don't want to participate in banter/debates/opinions, then don't bother.

Chelsea Nick

Melbourne

The more you say the more you dig a hole for yourself
First I will to sign my name as Mickey Mouse my posting so it clearly have moe meaning to you!
Next what arrogance to suggest that you are more a supporter. I tell you what how about we have a discussion at Reading on Wednesday or Newcastle next Saturday or how about at SB gainst Wigan, Not going ? Well I am does that make me a better supporter than you? Of course not so don't make such stupid assumptions because I always spell one of players names wrong.
Finally as I said I hadnt looked at the age profiles of JGs squad but I take what you say but try being a little more respectful in your postings then you might not come over quite as an arrogant as you clearly are.
Mickey Mouse

I completely agree with Melbourne. what's the point in posting pointless dribble that offers nothing? And your only excuse being that you didn't check the ages of the squad posted. I don't necessarily believe you to be a lesser supporter but saying that Cech has been at Chelsea for ages and isn't that hard to spell, you could be forgiven for mis-spelling Azpilicueta's name or something.
Hunter

I get the feeling you're one of the sad cases that keeps trying to impersonate me on here Mickey. I'm sorry I didn't realise you will be at the game, I bow to your incomparable loyalty to the club. I take it you must sit with a side on view of the pitch, only way I can logically come to the conclusion of why on earth you can't spell a 4 letter name of a bloke who has stood infront of the Shed End every home game for a decade.

You picked the perfect sign off name for yourself though, well done.

Melbourne CFC

What on earth are you on about wanting to impersonate you. I get the feeling that one of you more than enough.
My season ticket is in West Lower so yes I sit side on.As for bowing to incomparable loyalty no need but just accept that someone can support the club even if they spell a players name wrong.
Hunter
Dribble that offers nothing? Am I not entitled to a view that Courtois won't be at SB next season unless he is first choice?

26 Jan 2013 12:59:33
Funny how all the talk is how light our squad is yet we have an international midfielder in de brune a striker in lukaku a goalkeeper in coutois and an array of youngsters getting rave reviews strengthening other peoples squads what's the point in signing and nurturing youngsters and not using them to give players a rest and gain prem, chelsea experience
mickeydroyledge

Exactly mate! BLUEBOY1

25 Jan 2013 22:50:16
My targets for the summer would be:

Cavani (ST) - I would go for Cavani mainly based on being a year younger than Falcao and I think his pace would suit the premier league better.

Schurrle (LW) - I feel we need a winger who scores goals what we've missed since Anelka. Schurrle has been praised for his work rate and is well know for his long range shooting and prolific finishing. Last piece of our attacking jigsaw.

Paulinho (CM) - We are really short of numbers in midfield with Lamps leaving. Luiz has slotted in there really well and I think with Luiz's creativity and Paulinho's muscle and box to box presence they could be a great pairing. Mikel simply isn't good enough, prefer Ramires on the wing because he can't pass in the centre.

Shaw (LB) - Great young prospect who also supports Chelsea. Impressed greatly this season would be a good back up until Cole leaves next year think Bertrand's not good enough.

Back From Loan:

Kalas
Courtois

Out On Loan:

McEachran
De Bruyne
Kakuta
Piazon
Lukaku

Out:

Hilario
Ferreira
Bruma
Bertrand
Benayoun
Lampard
Marin
Malouda
Torres

XI:

Cech

Ivanovic Cahill Terry A.Cole

Paulinho Luiz

Hazard Mata Schurrle

Cavani

Subs: Courtois, Azpilicueta, Shaw, Ramires, Oscar, Moses, Ba

CfcBenWxm

Fellaini
Ben arfa
Shaw
Isco
Cavani/falcao. can't decide

Our squad is too small as it is and your just getting rid of marin, bertrand & torres and replacing them. schurrle doesn't score many and shoots all the bloody time. you wanna send debruyne on loan even though he's been excellent in germany. marin is better than moses. lukaku is scoring so why just send him on loan?

RB is not Ivanovic's best position. He doesn't really have the pace required to get up and down the flanks, not to mention the crossing ability. I personally don't see De Bruyne leaving on loan again next year, and Marin's departure will largely depend on how well he performs the rest of the season and where we end up finishing. Also think that we will keep Bertrand another year with the possibilty of Shaw coming at the end of next season when Ashley's contract finishes. I wouldn't be surprised by a move for Isco.

I like the sound of it although Josh and Gael should be sold they are never going to brake into the first 11.I don't Know if paulino is a good idea Mikel will be back and eventually Oscar will fill that roll, marin and bertrand are versatile I would keep them has squad players.

But nice selection of signings wouldn't turn them away mate :)

BlueBen

Blue Ben have you seen anything of kakuta and mceachran this season? BLUEBOY1

My Ideal Team For The 2013 - 2014 Season, Transfers in and out Winter & Summer transfer windows -


...................... Courtois ...................

.. Cesar .. Hummels .. Terry .. Cole ..

................ Capoue .. Luiz ................

.... Gotze ....... Mata ....... Hazard ....

....................... Cavani .....................


Ins -

Mats Hummels - £20m +
Luke Shaw - (1 year loan back to Southampton) £12m +
Etienne Capoue - £10m +
Mario Gotze - £30m +
Isco - £20m +
Edinson Cavani - £30m +


Loan Returns -

Thomas Kalas
Kevin De Bruyne
Romelu Lukaku


Outs -

Petr Cech
Ross Turnbull
Branislav Ivanovic
Paulo Ferriera - (Coaching Staff)
Frank Lampard
John Obi Mikel
Michael Essein
Florent Malouda
Yossi Benayoun
Gael Kakuta
Fernando Torres
Patrick Van Annholt
Jeffrey Bruma


Loans -

Joshy McEachran
Ryan Bertrand
Thorgan Hazard
Ulias Davila
Marko Marin
Lucas Piazon
Todd Kane
Ruben Loftus Cheek - Age Applicable
Nathaniel Chalobah


2013 Squad -

Thibaut Courtois
Hilario
Jamal Blackman - U21 HG

Cesar Azpillicueta
Thomas Kalas - U21 (Defensive cover at CB and RB, excellent prospect for the future)
Gary Cahill
John Terry
Mats Hummels - (In my opinion the best CB under 24 in world football, a must buy)
Nathan Ake - U21 HG
Ashley Cole
Ryan Bertrand - U21 HG

David Luiz
Etienne Capoue - (Brings us the steel and presence in CM that we are currently lacking.)
Ramires
Oriol Romeu
Oscar

Kevin De Bruyne
Eden Hazard
Juan Mata
Mario Gotze - (The passing of Mata and dribbling of Hazard, in my opinion the best possible option for LW as he can play the interchangeable positions along the front 3 that we require in the attacking 3 players.)
Isco - (Brings versatility to play along the front 3, exciting talent and a promising attacking creative player.)
Victor Moses

Edinson Cavani - World class striker, brings pace, power and finishing.
Demba Ba
Romelu Lukaku

My 25 man squad

PB

Don't think we're somehow going to spend 122m. Even if get 50-60m from sales. Perhaps if you replaced Gotze, I think it could happen. Not sure Ivanovic will leave either.

My problem is everyone selling these young players. But do you even know how they are getting on out on loan? BLUEBOY1

3 homegrown players?

Hilarious is gone end of the season, turnbull is homegrown so I would change them. Why sell ivanovic? He's been solid since day one. He's only 28, other than that your defence is sounds. Agree with kalas he's been doing really well playing right back on loan. Midfield is perfect, though I do ike Fernando of Porto. Also de bruyne is playing very well their. The trio, we will never get gotze! Isco I want, and marko Marin is quality so I would keep him for sure watched him 4 years in Germany, I would give piazon the opera unity aswell. Strikers I think keeping lukaku would be great aswell. Obviously we need cavani or falcao. Good post of understanding the team mate. But how many homegrowns do we actually need? also wouldn't right off kakuta and mceachran yet, kakuta is really stepping up in holland, looking stronger and confident.

1st of all I did say my IDEAL team, I understand Gotze, Hummels is not realistic hence why I put IDEAL.

I put HG next to the players who some people might not know of. you've got Cahill, Terry, Cole, Moses who are also HG but as there not under 21 and are well known I didn't think it was necessary to point it out.

Ive made a big squad overall which isn't realistic but that is just from my point of view what I would do in an ideal/fifa/football manager type of world. i'm not saying its going to happen.

Ivanovic may well leave, Ed has mentioned that he may look for 1st team football and didn't like being played RB instead of CB. The guy is very dependable and I am a big fan but I would assume you would get some solid money for the guy and also be able to give a Kalas a chance who has shown great promise at Vitesse.

In regards to selling young players, the players sold list comprised of mostly older players such as Lampard, Essein, Benayoun, Malouda and so on. Kakuta I don't see as being able to make the bench on a consistant basis with this proposal and a 3rd year of loans isn't going to help the lad. Jeffrey Bruma as Ed has stated has no Chelsea future and will be sold in the summer and Van Annholt, with the proposed purchase of Shaw and Cole and Bertrand in the squad their is no space for him.

Just a bit of fun and we can all dream right ha

PB

Ye definitely never rated bruma, kakuta is doing very well recently as is kalas

Ivanovic has had a long run in the team with Terry out injured. Now that Terry's back he'll rotate between CB and RB positions. Next year Terry probably won't start as many games so the main pairing will probably be Cahill/Ivanovic. Also I don't see why we'd sell a quality established CB to give a youngster a go.

Cech won't be sold, you are all delusional if you believe he should leave.

So what's going to happen with Courtois then? We gunna loan him out for the next few years? Delusional is insulting, don't post without leaving a name.

PB

Courtois will compete with Cech next season then will become our first choice keeper. If a suitable offer was made in the summer I could see Cech leaving. Courtois despite having no experience in the premier league has earned rave reviews and would be more than a suitable replacement.