Chelsea Banter Archive July 25 2012

25 Jul 2012 22:25:59
Which position do you expect oscar to be employed in, a deep lying playmaker or just behind the striker.

I expect him to be involved in the trio behind the striker. Certainly for his first season.

Anywhere that suits the team

trueblue012

His prefered position would be behind the striker but he could be played in the CM role, playing deeper and running things from there.

I dont think the supporting 3 will be fixed to a role, whoever starts in the middle may move out to the left etc. I dont think these versatile players being bought is any coincedence and I look forward to seeing defenders faces go from relief when thay realise marin has moved position to fear when they see Hazard, mata or Oscar has taken his place!

Blue John

25 Jul 2012 21:00:20
Dream signing Alex Morgan USA womens striker. Come on Roman do the decent thing and sign her for the Chelsea ladies team :)

How about the US women's National team goalkeeper,Hope Solo,one of the sexist athletes on the planet?
roan

Jessica ennis ?? maria sharapova ??

25 Jul 2012 20:52:11
Guys I am undecided , do I

A) Stay up and watch the whole match

B) Watch the first half

C) Wait until tomorrow morning and get the highlights

Bare in mind I want to watch the match but have to get up tomorrow morning quite early.

Thoughts fellow Chelsea fans ??.....

I wanted to watch it but half 1 is to late gotta b up at 6 plastering all day so gunna have to settle for highlights. think the milan game is earlier though & probz the most taken serious. BLUEBOY1

Haha i'm in the same situation! Got 5 a side at 9 tomorrow but would hate to miss it, hmmm

Watch the match and drink plenty of coffee tomo. The only option really ;)
Marley

Yeah.. So I stayed up and watched it, got a bollocking from the missus, wasn't worth the trouble either.

25 Jul 2012 20:13:35
Who amongst our Eds is a woman? Is it Ed002 or ED018? Or is it both? {Ed018's Note - not me}

Does it matter?

25 Jul 2012 19:39:44
anyone think we should sign M'baye Niang, as the club are going all future player wise think we should snap up a player thats likely to be one of the best one day
ChelseaL

Who? Never heard of him.
Does he have good stats on football manager or summit.
Cfcmatt

17 years old, French, Striker, plays in Ligue 2 and looks decent enough for the future. He is also plays for Frances' U21s.

Na.
roan

25 Jul 2012 19:25:26
This summers transfer windows ins and outs (well my predictions anyway)

Ins:
Marin £6 million
E Hazzard £32 million
T Hazzard £2 million
Oscar £25 million
Cavani £35 million
Mosses £9.5 million
Azpilicueta £9 million

Outs:
Drogba released
Kalo released
Bosingwa release
Malodua £7 million
Marelise £5 million
Benyuon £2 million
Essien £8 million

Total outs £22 million
Total ins £118.5
Smashing up the premier league and europe, Priceless
Anelka.D

Marelise? Kalo? Benyuon? Hell, you even spelt "Hazzard" wrong! What on earth is going on here?

But apart from your terrible spelling, I totally agree with you.


Samir

Why would u wan sell essien if he's finding his feet again ..our new style of play moving the ball faster suits him..id rather sell mikel and include Romeu,Essien and Josh more

Do you really think this will happen ? haha dream on

How come you can spell the hardest name Azpilicueta correct, but you cant spell some of the others?! Other than that agree mostly with the transfers

RD11

Samir you forgot Malouda is also spelt wrong!

And yet he/she can spell azpilicueta correctly. WTF

FT9

Agree with all the signings,but I'd keep essien.

NWBLUE

My grandson could spell better than that.

Ya knew what players he ment. Does the spelling really matter

25 Jul 2012 19:17:24
This summers transfer windows ins and outs (well my predictions anyway)

Ins:
Marin £6 million
E Hazzard £32 million
T Hazzard £2 million
Oscar £25 million
Cavani £35 million
Mosses £9.5 million
Azpilicueta £9 million

Outs:
Drogba released
Kalo released
Bosingwa release
Malodua £7 million
Marelise £5 million
Benyuon

25 Jul 2012 18:05:13
CECH - GK
IVANOVIC - RB
LUIZ - CB
TERRY - CB
COLE - LB
RAMIRES - CM
OSCAR - CM
MARIN - RW
HAZARD - LW
MATA - AM
TORRES - ST

4231

Shak.

Beauty about the top 3 is that they can alter positions

Yer this is the line up i want against teams, it pushes team so far back is unreal. but against arsenal, mancs, pool, playing essien or romeu is probably a must. BLUEBOY1

100% agree with your lineup mate. Top Notch.

The only problem is that maybe that lineup is defensive suicide? Maybe Essien COULD be included in the squad. Maybe.

But apart from that, I couldn't agree more.


Samir

Midfield needs a bit more steel. Seems too attacking.

Great team, against the weaker teams i hope this is what we see, Oscar pulling all the strings with Ramires doing all the leg work!

Start that team vs most in prem and we'll struggle.
Apart from back four , no one can tackle.
Such a lightweight midfield.
Oscar looks decent but playing him alongside rami in centre mid is clueless.
Cfcmatt

In the prem u need balance with equal amounts of attacking and defensive qualities. This is 75% attacking.

Gk cech
rb brana
cb david luiz
cb terry
lb cole
cm ramires
cm lampard
rw oscar
cam mata
lw hazard
st torres

i think this team provides both experience and pace, plus a sh*t load of creativity

trueblue012

Oscar over Lamps in the midfield,Marin in the wing.Against the good teams sacrifice Oscar and hand Essien/Romeu a start.
roan

25 Jul 2012 17:30:58
like i sed b4 and i will say it agen realistick chelsea team next season


.............cech...............

ivan....cahill/luiz....terry....cole

.......ramires....lampard....

marin....mata/oscar.....hazard

.............Torres.............


subs

Ross Turnbull
Daniel Sturridge
oscar/mata
Michael Essien
David Luiz/cahill
Mikel
Oriol Romeulondzz

Why would we have 3 defencive mids on the bench? one is plenty. rather josh and piazon take 2 of them spots. romeu will go back 2 barca after olympics anyways.

25 Jul 2012 17:16:55
Chelsea have signed oscar. so excited. On the official website

SHak

25 Jul 2012 17:12:50
We have completed the signing of Oscar! Probably for the best getting it done before the Olympics now the lad can focus on showing us what he can do!

25 Jul 2012 16:14:12
Seems to me we have a decent number of central midfielders (lamps, Mikel, Meireles, Essien, Romeu, McEachran and of course Ramires) but I can help thinking that the playmaker is still missing. I know Oscar is being bought to play further forward but I dont feel we are completly covered defensively because I do not believe Essien will be the player he once was. Is Mikel up to it as the first choicedestroyer/dictator?

Mikel was absolute quality under Di Matteo last season. Trust me there aren't many good Defensive mids out there for a realistic price.

Like to see you got a positive attitude towards it

javi martinez is probably the cheapest option who can play there and is good enough for our team

in essien and mikel we should trust {Ed018's Note - Javi Martinez would not be a cheap option. He would cost quite a bit}

Oh and have u seen our signings ??

how can u say were missing playmakers

Ed 018 i said cheapest option of a defensive midfielder whos good enough for us

you may well have another player in mind for cheaper though {Ed018's Note - Fernando from Porto would be cheaper}

I understand what your saying ed 018 but i mean for the price compared to quality hes the cheapest option because m vila is stupid money although i may have missed a defensive midfielder that you rate highly that would be a good addition {Ed018's Note - The point is, Athletic will not sell Martinez cheaply. I'd love to see him at Chelsea though}

As its already been said Mikel was brilliant towards the end of last season and my man of the match for the cl final. He can do the job of 'destroyer' with someone next to him 'dictating'. Just to add I thought Lamps was brilliant in the deeper role and I think Joshy will excell as well

Blue John

Mikel quality? he played alright in 2 games barca and munich, thats because we defended & guess what thats all he is good at. if we attacked he would of been useless, he defiantly cant pass forward. BLUEBOY1

Ur full of s*** saying Mikel was quality. He tackled a lot, what else did he do other than pass back and lose possession, I suggest everyone uh. Says he was is go and watch sat seasons DVD. U r all a joke.

I agree that mikel was brilliant at the end of last season but that's because we was defending as a team but I don't feel like he has the pace to intercept balls. I think Essien looked good against psg and I would like to see him be the defensive mid we have missed since he got injured.

Bluejohn said it perfectly.

Ah good shout there ed

think hes good enough? {Ed018's Note - Fernando? Yea he is a good player}

Its a discussion that could go on a while to be fair and in all honesty makele is probably top 3 best defensive mid ever and he wasnt known for blistering pace but then again he had great positioning and tactical awareness that mikel lacks id have to agree that mikel does well as a denfensive team but as a sole def mid it would be alot harder for him

curt

Fernando is a great player. A more defensive and physical version of Ramires. How much would Fc Porto want for him then ed018? {Ed018's Note - To hard say. Porto, as we all know demand a high price for their players. But I dont expect a move for a defensive midfielder this summer}

25 Jul 2012 13:18:14
Good laugh on the Spurs banter page with some Toby posting a team with Lloris, Micah Richards, Ben Arfa, Oscar, Hulk, Moutinho, Adebayor and Falcao! And the best bit? They think they have a shot at those players! Ben Arfa won't leave, Oscar wants to play for a good team, Falcao is happy in Spain, Hulk wants Chelsea, not AVB, Moutinho admitted he doesn't want to leave Porto for a non-CL, Micah Richards won't leave City and Adebayor (Who is most likely to join them) is as overrated as Stuart Downing!
Think the old post is well worth a look at if you need a good laugh, you can see a textbook Fifa/FM player spouting out dribble and the other toby's all agreeing with it!
Up the Blues!
2012/2013: Our First Triple: FA Cup, BPL and retaining the CL at Wembley, agree if you thinks it is possible!
CFCFOREVER!

They are surely giving the Loserpools a fight for "the most duluded fans" award.One thinks they are Barca 2.0 and Joe Allen is Xavi incarnate,the other thinks that they area "big club".
roan

Ahaha haven't seen that yet Roan, though did see a Loserfool fan trying to convince themselves they had a good shot at the league this year, this is a tight contest on which is most deluded though, even more tight than the EPL!
CFCFOREVER!

Those looserpool fans are so deluded if they finish above 8th they will have done realy well they are now just an average prem club fact i'm afraid scousers

25 Jul 2012 11:45:46
Not sure why everyone is having a moan about moses. The way I see it is we need a replacement for Kalou and also that would free up Sturridge to play up front. He will probably share it with Torres and Cavani (if he comes). Let's not forget we are going to be challenging for 7 trophies this season so plent of playing time for all.

25 man squad:

Cech, Turnbull (although I'd sooner him leave) Hilario

Cole, Bertrand, Ivanovic, Cesar, Terry, Cahill, Luiz, Hutchinson

Mikel, Romeu, Ramires, Essien, Lamps

Piazon, Oscar, Mata, Marin, Hazard, Moses

Torres, Cavani, Sturridge

Leaving:
Miereles - Sell
Josh - Loan
Chalobah - Loan
De bruyne - Loan
Lukaku - Loan
Ferriera - Coaching Role/Sell
Kakuta - Sell
Malouda - Sell

So what happens when all the players out on loan come back?

We need to keep a couple of Malouda, Benayoun, Meireles, Ferreira to add experience to the squad.

Terry, cole, ivanovic, cahill (has league expierence), lamps, mikel, essien, torres, cech

why do we need them you mentioned for expierence

Because the mentioned above is not enough considering the amount of youngsters we are buying.

When they come back the club will reassess some of the older player eg Essien, Lamps, Bran, Obi etc etc
A squad should evolve and that is the plan here.

Keep De bruyne ,Josh and Meireles/Benayoun.
Sell Malouda,Ferreira ,Meireles/ Benayoun.
roan

The person moaning w need to keep the old ones for expierence

are you an person? i named the players we would still have for expierence and theres a goalkeeper defenders midfielders and a striker please tell me how my list of expierence players as you say is "not enough"

That's only 9 relatively experienced players in the whole club ! You need around 15 usually. The balance needs to be right. They add experience plus help foreign players settle in, they have international pedigree plus have big match experience that the youngsters can learn from. I rest my case.

Your case isnt rested

its 11vs11 and we have 9 expierenced players plus mata, hazard, marin and now oscar (internationally) know what the big time is all about mata, hazard, marin and oscar are all better than benayoun for a start

i just cant see how your case is standing up to be honest if this was in court you would be found guilty

And you've spelt experience wrong in every single post... I know that's irrelevant just thought in future you could spell it right.... Peace

I never said they would be starting I said they would be vital for the SQUAD. Name me any team that was extremely successful with less than nine experienced international players in their SQUAD..?

Arsenal (invincibles) barca full of youngsters

look your not going to win with me i made my point we dont need 15 experienced players in a 24 man squad

there spelt it right this time now shut up

Invincibles had a lot of experienced players, plus so do Barca. I never said we needed 15 either I said we needed to keep a couple. So stop getting so worked up about it and accept u know ur wrong.

25 Jul 2012 10:09:09
right just want to see something agree if you think a striker should be brought now and disagree if you dont think we should because it will upset torres

I'm sure torres will be aware of our interest in a striker, didier drogba has just left the club and torres will know he cannot play every game so i doubt he'd be upset, he is not a child

trueblue012 {Ed002's Note - Plus Kalou and Anelka have left.}

Frankly if Torres gets upset by the club trying to progress then he should be sold. Cfc is bigger than one man.

U mean like the way he acted last season trueblue ?

also wanted to be assured he would be the starter

he threw his toys out the pram when roberto wouldnt let him take a penalty

I don't know who you were watching but it wasn't fernando

trueblue012

There's no doubt Torres' attitude has to improve for next season!

He publicly said that he was disappointed the way the club had treated him. Basically he was saying that he wanted to start more games and was complaining about not starting the cl final. He released this statement the day after the cl final which I Think is a disgrace. It's obviousthay he thinks that he is bigger than the club and if he can't perform with competition for places he should be sold as we are a competitive club.

True blue do you get commission for every time you lick torres's ass??

No it's a weekly payment

trueblue012

25 Jul 2012 09:29:17
Brighton to loan Essien

Hkib

U been taking ur medication this morning?
Marley

25 Jul 2012 05:33:46
Any one know wot odds torres is for top scorer! I think he gonna have a big season wot u think lads

Pinky

Depends if rvp stays or not, also aguero, rooney willl be up there. lets not ginx torres, this time last year we said the same thing and look what happened.

Dont need too worry about persie hes a one season wonder