Chelsea Banter Archive August 24 2012
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24 Aug 2012 23:55:30
Just wondering, with two new signings that will perhaps not be automatic starters. Will there contracts have clauses written in them regarding playing time?
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Its extremely hard for that to be a clause in a contract? What if their form dips? Chelsea still have to play them?
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24 Aug 2012 23:40:15
Glad to see all is back to normal on our sites. What a great time to be a Chelsea fan!! God Bless Roman, we are so lucky to have an owner who in one window can drop over a 100 mil and help change our team over and get us young and exciting and able to compete for years to come for all trophies. Great depth and bench strength as well and good young players being loaned out! With the signing of a world class striker before the deadline this would have to go down as one of the greatest transfer windows of all time ( Hazard, Oscar, Marin, Moses , Azpilicueta + striker)... Let's just enjoy it all with class guys as we know it can all change quickly enough!! GO BLUES!!!
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24 Aug 2012 22:01:47
Pound for pound , we have a squad that easily matches ManU
Reminds me of man city last season, having two players in each position
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I would say player for player we are better in alot of positions. personally. BLUEBOY1
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Position for position I wouldn't swap many of our players for theirs.
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I'd have aguero and kompany quite happily.
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I wouldnt swap any
JMJW
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One more striker and ill agree with Jm10. Webster.
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Agreed with no named post augero and kompany id take and from united the only players id take are kagawa and vidic
but also gotta agree with you jm10 as usual
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Hart, Yaya Toure, Aguero and Kompany possibly Tevez if he has finally sorted himself out.
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Oh yer how could i forget toure and hart lol
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24 Aug 2012 21:09:41
As touched on in a previous post I think sturridges attitude is a real problem...he's a decent player but doesn't see anybody but himself, the amount of goal we haven't scored because he diesnt get his head up ir decides to shoot is scary. I for one wouldn't be sorry to see him leave, it's a shame he's homegrown though...
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Strurridge has an immense talent and is a versatile player. Understandably at a young age he wants to play, and what more can he do; he was sent out on loan and scored a lot of goals; he was played on the Wong and scored a lot of goals. I mean what does the lad have to do. He can beat people with ease and he's young so the issue with selfishness as he matures as a player. I mean jeeeez give the lad a break! No one is slating Ramires cause he had a shot and didn't pass to Torres!
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Ive never liked him myself but if he can pass like he has shown i think quick attacking football is going to suit him well. BLUEBOY1
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So you're saying Kagawa is better than Mata/hazard.
Really curt?
And personally I'd rather Cech than Joe Hart. Hart is quality, but Cech is a legend, and getting to the age where Courtois can come back next year, and expect game time.
But that's just me.
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24 Aug 2012 20:52:46
I wouldove moses to have instant impact with us, I know he is squad player and won't start many games but like him to show all the negative people he is gd young player and will be star for us in future
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24 Aug 2012 20:46:02
well that's the moses deal done, can he play tomorrow? {Ed018's Note - it depends on if the paper work was turned in on time. which i have no idea.}
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24 Aug 2012 20:31:36
HI Guys,
Just taken the following from our official website.
MOSES TRANSFER COMPLETED
Posted on: Fri 24 Aug 2012
Chelsea Football Club is delighted to announce the signing of Victor Moses from Wigan Athletic.
The 21-year-old winger's last appearance in Wigan colours came in Chelsea's 2-0 win at the DW Stadium last weekend, when he caught the eye with his strong running out wide.
The Nigerian international is a product of the Crystal Palace youth academy and made his first team debut in late 2007.
After establishing himself with the Championship side, Moses transferred to Wigan at the end of January 2010 and quickly settled into life in the Barclays Premier League.
In total he played 74 league games for the Latics, following 58 for Crystal Palace.
At international level, Moses appeared for England from schoolboy up to Under 21, but has opted to represent Nigeria at senior level, and made his debut in February against Rwanda.
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24 Aug 2012 20:14:49
As touched on in a previous post I think sturridges attitude is a real problem...he's a decent player but doesn't see anybody but himself, the amount of goal we haven't scored because he diesnt get his head up ir decides to shoot is scary. I for one wouldn't be sorry to see him leave, it's a shame he's homegrown though...
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24 Aug 2012 19:50:41
KDB starts today for Bremen, hope he has a good game and of course a stunning seaon. So he can come back to us buzzing.
ELI
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Im watching the game he is playing as a striker and looks a little out of his element.
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His first touch and passing doesnt look good.
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24 Aug 2012 19:44:40
Ed,your veiw on Ramires playing on the right?I think we are wasting him there.He is not the best passer of the ball,but his energy is electric.He would give the much needed drive in the midfield.I do hope Marin and Moses start very well that would force RDM to play Ramires in the middle, Mikel, Lamps or Essien as the DM .
roan {Ed018's Note - i'm not a fan of Ramires playing on the right. i hope to see that he will eventually be moved back into the middle}
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24 Aug 2012 18:58:59
Hi Ed002, Ed018 could you help? Youth team Chelsea-Man City. We won 6:1. I watched some part of game, but couldn't find who was our player No6. He looked sharp and looks very promising. Thank you Peter T. {Ed018's Note - i tried to find the numbers for the u-21 squad and i couldn't find them. maybe someone can help out}
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I believe he is George Saville
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Was he a centre mid? proper general then it would be saville. reserves and youth pretty much play with numbers 1 to 11, so who ever starts gets a number between 1 to 11 BLUEBOY1
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Umm if you mean the number 6 that played in the 6:1 thumping over city, then that was Reuben Loftus-Cheek, great young player who scored a great goal, and the number 6 who played in the 0-0 draw with city was george saville.
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24 Aug 2012 19:34:58
Ed,is Collocini fit?
roan {Ed018's Note - last i checked his fitness level was to be tested today, not sure how that went}
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24 Aug 2012 19:33:01
im not sure how rdm reckons we dont need anyone else after the signings of moses and azpi!
mikec {Ed018's Note - i wouldn't read to much into what he said about it}
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Ah ok thanks ed i was kinda worried. I do think we are going to be in with a shout for everything this year but we really do need another striker.
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24 Aug 2012 19:19:20
What are the possibility,s of another player coming in ? not mentioning any names ..
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24 Aug 2012 19:15:01
After signing azpilicueta and having agreed a fee with Wigan for victor Moses, whats the possibility of a big deadline day signing? And if there were to be one, who do you think it will be?
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I've got a sneaky feeling it may be Falcao or Modric...
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Wont be either of those two
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Javi Martinez
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24 Aug 2012 19:04:41
....................cech..................
ivanovic......cahill......luiz......cole
....................mikel..................
...........oscar..........lampard.........
mata.................................hazard
.....................torres...................
subs
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cesar
essien
ramires
sturridge
piazon
meireles
this would be my team against newcastle!
what u think people?
wheelycfc
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Essien for mikel.
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24 Aug 2012 18:03:45
everybody from the top officials in chelsea to a random fan knows that we need a striker because no one will be content with torres and sturridge unless we are ready to play with a 4-6 formation(which will clearly not happen)......so we will buy a striker and with cheaper options of shurlle and jovetic not looking likely we just might end up overpaying for hulk/cavani.
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I am content with torres and sturridge.
cali {Ed018's Note - what if one gets injured}
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People are forgetting that Moses is capable of playing up front as well.
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We could turn into spain/barcelona and play a 4-6-0
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How about we forget turning into a spain/barcelona and just stay a chelsea?
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24 Aug 2012 17:56:17
ed002 welcome back,
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24 Aug 2012 16:50:55
I think that we will sign our striker by this week. Cavani or Hulk. But on the deadline day I have a weird feeling that we will sign someone big and unexpected. Someone who hasn't been strongly linked.........Preferably a CDM in place of Mikel
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But we also have essien and romeu no need for cdm. Webster.
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Wouldnt go a miss though webster lets be honest and i know this will never happen but if on deadline day an hour before it closes on a website was chelsea just signed yaya toure you wouldnt complain
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Gotta say if Fernando became available that would be cool.. The combination of Frank and Mikel just seems to slow at times. If only there was a clone of Maka out there..
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I can c what u r saying curt and no i wouldnt complain, but weve done 70 million already by the time a striker comes in 30-40 million. i think the club would feel as thou it would have invested enough (100 million). And a position in which we have 3 player (cdm) could be looked at as being unnecessary. Webster
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Yer thats a fair point there webster i can understand where your coming from there
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People quit with the "mikel out" bs. If you watched any chelsea games RDM see's him as a first team player, so DEAL WITH IT.
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Alright alright dont cry
curt
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Agree with both but fill Fellaini would be the best option!
Rdm said in his press conference today tht Moses could be our last signing ( hope not)
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24 Aug 2012 16:37:19
Line ups and predictions vs n'castle
Heres mine
Cech
Azpi Ivan Cahill cole
Mikel lampard
Sturridge Mata Hazard
Torres
2-2 Draw though- they are a very very good side
1905chelsea
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Cant see studge starting, ramires will start instead. Would like to see mata move to where studge is and oscar play in the hole. Webster.
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Cech
ivan cahill luiz cole
mikel lamps
rami oscar hazard
torres
can see mata being rested he needs it
score will be a very close 2-1 win to us
curt
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I doubt that Ivanovic will play at CB as he rarely does, luiz won't start he's been injured. I reckon it will be more or less the team that started against Reading with maybe oscar in a holding role. He sort of played there when mikel came off and did alright.
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Terry is out for the game mate and i think luiz is back from injury
curt
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I can't see Oscar starting.
Replace Oscar with Mata and you've got the team nailed Curt, Mata will be rested after the Super Cup for 2 weeks where he hopefully with the co-operation with the Spanish national team he won't go and play for them
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Put rami back in lamps position and mata on the right/left/centre with Oscar and hazard all interchanging. Mata will be given a rest after SuperCup against athleticism as we have a nice break before qpr? Other than that really like the team curt!
Prediction 3-1. Hazard to score, assist Torres and Ivan for the other. Newcastle don't cross a lot so I see their only real threat in open play as Ben Arfa.
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24 Aug 2012 14:30:07
alright lads im off to the bridge on saturday to watch the newcastle game! (cant wait) im sitting in the shed upper row 5 any ideas on what the view will be like, atmosphere etc.? any tips would be great! UP THE BLUES!!!
Dan1CFC
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Atmosphere in the Shed is always brilliant, sing your heart out and keep the blue flag flying high :) Bring a camera because I think Moses and Azpiliceuta will be paraded to fans before the Game. And sing out anthem before the Game, we always seem to win whenever "Blue is the Colour" is sung before the game. Above all, enjoy it mate, you are going to see two quality teams who are both top-premier league standard take each other on :D
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My Tip....Dont wear a newcastle shirt. Webster.
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Haha like it
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Should be a great game Dan , hope you enjoy it and we get to cheer lots of goals .
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CFCFOREVER blue is the colour is sung before every game and im pretty sure we havent won every game at home
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24 Aug 2012 14:28:53
15 more goals until lamps becomes all time top scorer for us.
Who reckons it could be this season ??
Jm10 {Ed018's Note - if Hazard keeps winning penalty kicks like he has been, Lampard could have quite the goal scoring season}
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I hope he does he deserves it for his services over the years
i think if he stays next year he will get it
unless he has a season like a few years back when he was constantly scoring 20+ goals a season
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Yeah Lampard deserves it . been great servant for club. been banging in roughley 20 per season for a while so deffinantly possible.
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24 Aug 2012 14:07:09
Now let's get Cavani! He can be the difference of us doing well this season! Wot u think lads!
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I agree we need a back up striker but will you stop going on about how we wont do well bla bla bla
your so negative
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Curt if ur happy with one striker who is nufin short of joke then ur a fool! We are carrying 4 players in this team terry,lamps,mikel and torres who all need replacing! Until then we ant winning nufin.
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Do you know how to read? i said WE NEED BACKUP but dont be so negative
were not really carrying terry and lamps
why am i having this conversation with you im not even sure you actually support chelsea
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We Dnt need back up we need a world class striker! And for u to say I Dnt think we are carrying terry and lamps just proves to me u Dnt watch Chelsea often! They are both in the team just cos who they are and wot they done for the club they both need to be replaced ASAP
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You're right we will win 'nufin' its not like we won the FA cup and Champions league with those guys last year.
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Nobody is being carryed. Dont get me wrong i did hate mikel as much as anyone but to be honest he played well agaist readin broke play up and keeped it simple.Torres is in the right places but been alittle unfortunate. Lamps is spraying ball around quite well. Terry, ok he is the slowest player in the league but his reading of the game and organising is the best in the league.Yeah we need another striker, but firstly support the players we have and stop getting on their backs after two game. Chelsea forever.... Webster
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Exactly there in the squad because of who they are and what they have done for the club
they still do a good enough job for the club they dont need replacing this year maybe next though
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IMO i believe lamps shouldnt be starting this year, with the players we have starting just now they are good on the ball and do nice quick one touch passing, but as soon as lampard gets it he is always looking to hit it long where we havnt got the players to deal with it.
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I understand your point hes used to having drogba there but give him a chance
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Webster am just gonna say this bout mikel against reading game! Come off with 25mins to go we scored 3! Offers nufin to the team and can be replaced easily he wouldn't get in no other top team across Europe so why do i have to see him at my club! We carry terry,lamps,mikel and torres FACT!
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Kevincfc i dont know what games youve been watching mate but if you notice mikel play well second half of season FACT. A season in which were crowned champions of europe FACT. Robby likes hime FACT. His job is to break up play which he does FACT. Dont get me wrong i would prefer someone else but isnt gunna happen FACT. You should support the players that play for the club you apparantly support. FACT. Webster. (FACT sorry couldnt resist one more.)
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Kevin mikel dont play for your team he plays for chelsea.......
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24 Aug 2012 13:32:05
Everyone who is slating any of the eds in the last few weeks, do the decent thing and stop doubting them. They haven't been wrong with a transfer and I remember they told us about Moses/Azpilicueta about 2 months ago.
Thanks for all the work eds, most of us who have a brain cell or two appreciate it.
CFCFOREVER!
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I only have one braincell but appreciate the work :D
curt
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Do you have any proof curt that you do in fact have one braincell?
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24 Aug 2012 13:01:53
To anyone who may help. Not seen much of this new rb just wonder what sort of player he is( is he a bombing forward defender/midfielder, or solid defender good in the takcal). thxs Webster
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He is a step up from Bosingwa. So he is good defensively but like most side backs nowadays he is a lot better offensively. His crosses are also better than Bosingwas, he is not as quick but he is tactically sound in terms of working with his team mates and his awareness , he would still need to I'm prove but again what I've seen and the little I've watched he could turn out to be a bargain .Hope that helps.
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Thanks ELI
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Nice analysis of him there ELI gave us all a good insight to the type of player he is (for people who havent seen him)
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24 Aug 2012 12:38:04
Hey everyone, quick question to anyone who knows the answer, eds or readers... why havent chelsea called a press conference like other teams have to announce and show of new signings like hazard, oscar, marin etc.. ? im not bothered just curious.. {Ed018's Note - they did intoduce them to the crowd before the match against Reading}
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24 aug 2012 11:31:22
its great being a chelsea fan
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24 Aug 2012 09:48:00
He is a rw thats not good enough for a team like chelsea if u want to challenge for the league you wouldn rely on moses would you
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We are not going to rely on him, he has been bought in as a squad player to replace Kalou. To say a 21 year old who has a couple of years of Premier league experience under his belt is not good enough is ridiculous. He also played for 2 seasons in the championship at Palace before that, so has been playing first team football since he was 17. He is home grown, which is an important consideration and can play either out wide or through the middle (also and important consideration considering the number of strikers in the squad at present). Most of the times I have seen him play he has looked a handful and I think he is great singing personally.
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He will probably prove you wrong considering he had a great game against chelsea last sunday
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Well there is just no pleasing some people is there?! Moan,moan, moan.........
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He's been signed as a replacement for Kalou and I think we'd all agree he's a step up. Add to that the fact he's much younger and counts as a home grown player I think he's a very good signing and he'll be an important squad member
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Moses riped up arsenal both home and away last season. Ten times better than kalou, so should be good for the squad.Also moses stays really wide right and gives us natural width which we lack as all the new guys want to play the no.10 role. Hazard and Mata have been great but both like the cut inside.Supported club since early 80s and this is the best squad weve had. Webster
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Im excited by this signing i wanted him here when he left palace in all honesty never rated kalou
i agree with webster best team we have had for a while
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24 Aug 2012 08:40:20
I see Liverpool are looking at sturridge, I really hope we dont get rid of him, can you share any light one it? ( really hope he isn't leaving)
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We're hardly likely to let go when we only have Fernando ATM. BLUEBOY1
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He's too good for liverpool
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24 Aug 2012 06:49:37
Rumours about Luiz keep resurfacing, hope they're not true, not only can he play centre back but would also make a great right back or defensive mid. Great passes, good pace, strong in the tackle...would rather see him in DM than Mikel or Essien...
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24 Aug 2012 04:24:06
Arsenal fan here, i come in london peace!
just wondering what your views would be on say Eden Hazard having a good season and then being pursued by a big spanish club, say if he pushed a deal through to make it happen (a la Van Persie) after like 1 good season,
would you guys be okay with that/would you justify the amount you spent on him for just 1 good season was a good idea?
i personally have a gut feeling that this will happen lads, he's only using an english club with big wages to show off and provide a platform for a move to a bigger club
thoughts?
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We are the champion's league holders and we will be next year
difference between him and van persie is van persie left to win trophies
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When do Chelsea sell their top players! If hazard keeps up playing like this it will take a bid of something like wot ronaldo went for to Madrid! Or a straight swap with Messi
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A bigger club? We are the champions of europe, doesnt get much bigger pal
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And plus we are not stupid enuf to let our top players run down their contracts to the last year and then sell them cheap! Hazard just joined so he have 4yrs left on his contract so it would take a massive bid to get him out of Chelsea!
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He even did say he'd prefer to play for a spanish team, and trust me you will not be winning the champions league again
ridiculous, thought you lot would be civil and nicer guess not
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Oi lads, give the Arsenal fan a break eh? He asked a question which is a fair point and you've all just started slating Arsenal. At least he is trying to chat and banter with us unlike muzzled and co. who keep shouting up from their relegation perch. As for the question, I think Hazard will be with us at least 4 years and then maybe he will go to Spain like Robben. I think he also might stay though, SW6 loves him already and he is such a classy player.
To the regulars; if they ask a question answer it, don't just go off about Arsenal or whatever club it is.
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24 Aug 2012 10:34:21
@PdotY: Don't worry about our club...we will do fine...it sometimes difficult to accept the good things of others...i don't know about your club...but i am pretty sure if someone shows he is worth to be in the team than our management will do whatever it takes to do...we only target to win the trophies...!
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And trust me, you wont be winning anything, AGAIN.
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You think you will?!?!
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Ok we might not win it again but we have won it unlike ur feeder club! Let's gets this straight about hazard he agreed terms with 3 clubs I do believe and he chose us the kings of Europe! Ur post was pointless!
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24 Aug 2012 02:55:12
No wonder Ed002 has stopped answering, hes getting asked the same questions every day, whens moses going to be signed, whens azpilicueta going to be signed, whens a striker going to be signed. use your heads, even i can answer that for you, before the end of august!
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24 Aug 2012 00:57:20
Hi Chelsea Fans, This is my first letter-despite that I started reading this site long time ago I've never written any word.
I may be permitted to write couple of words. First of all about -ED002. I always appreciated your attitude towards the site and in general towards the CHELSEA fans. Thank you for your time and job you've done. BUT, I assume you are deeply offended by some words and: sayings; by the person who didn't identify himself. He already received the words he deserved
Without your information ED002 the site became very chaotic ,like around unattended place grows all kind weeds-there are so many questions from the people from other teams and I see they are happy that we are without ED002. Very seldom ED018. Thank you mate. There is no answer for the questions which really interests us. Despite the asking, to come back and don't pay attention to the stupid sayings, you ED002 still are not back. It looks like the school master punishment-when all the children are punished because of bad behaviour of some of them. We really don't deserve it ED002.
The more time you need to return ED002, the more painful it will be for CHELSEA fans.
I am sorry but If: punishing: everybody makes you -ED002 happy, it means that you are not Chelsea fan. This stupid person received the words he deserved from everybody.-You ED002 receive the words you deserve. We are very grateful and I am sure you've always felt the respect.
We should respect each other. We should do everything in our power to make the site realistic again.
We should remember that we are member of big, big family called -CHELSEA.
Regards
David LDL. {Ed018's Note - You guys need to understand he is not gone. He is still posting on this board. All he said was he wasnt gonna answer questions. Half the stuff posted the last two days is from Ed002. He is probably laughing at half you guys for crying all over the place like you lost your family dog or something.}
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You'd feel really bad if i did lose my family dog now... {Ed018's Note -well sure, i don't wish that upon anyone. but the point is it's alot of pointless whining going on. its got to stop}
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It's not painful, what have you missed out on over the past week that Ed002 didn't tell you over the past month? If any new info comes to light Ed018 will let us know. Can we please get back to footy?
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24 Aug 2012 00:20:51
hopefully now that we have vic moses and oscar coming in the side ramires can stop playing right mid and get back to his center mid role.
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Ramires, Mikel and Lampard to rotate
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Mikel to be sold to anzhi makhachkala
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24 Aug 2012 00:05:30
I enjoy watch your counterattack style.
AnfieldUSA
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The only goal you have scored this campaign has been an own goal... Against Hearts.
Melbourne CFC
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Hey AnfieldUSA, how is mid table life treating you guys?!
ELI
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I feel you lot are still jealous of Liverpool. Next time, when some actually complements your " club " don't insult them.
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Your right anfieldUSA how I wish Chelsea had lost 3-0 to west brom and if only we had finished eight last year. I'd take the carling cup over champions league and fa cup any day...
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