23 Apr 2018 12:57:26
Hi guys united fan in peace. Good result yesterday always love a united Chelsea cup final! I just wanted to get your opinion on Jose. Do you guys regret sacking him? I understand his style of football is a problem and he burnt his bridges in his final season with you guys so sacking him was the only option. But with the high turnover of managers at your club, Jose is the only one I could ever have seen staying for an extended period of time. The only other manager I thought who looked at home at Chelsea was Ancelotti and I think he would be be a great appointment to replace conte. Although the football has been crap at times under Jose, he has instilled a strong mental fortitude in this united team and it is a clear they are improving. Am I a fan of his? Yes always have been even in his Chelsea days when he gave Fergie a run for his money. Do I think he will stay long term? I did up until the last few months where he seems to be teetering on the edge of implosion. However, it’s about time someone stood up to some of our players who are weak and quite frankly need a kick up the arse. Anyway I think you guys will be strong next year with a new manager.
23 Apr 2018 13:44:33
Given his behaviour towards the end I doubt anyone regrets sacking him BUT you have to understand the reason he started throwing his toys out the pram and it is very much the same reason with Conte, both warned that following the title win the next season the team needed improving and Mourinho probably more than Conte was dreadfully let down and with him, buy someone he doesn't want and they will barely get a game. Mourinho likes to take the best of what he inherits that 'he' wants to work with and then replace the others with his choice, something I think he is still doing at Man Utd. You can criticise his football style but he is extremely successful and most supporters will take a 1-0 win everyday over a 5-4 defeat. Would I take him on again, without a doubt and it would not surprise me down the line that he did have another spell. At some stage he will have learned the best way to go about working with the club and the management cannot continue this manager merry-go-round as it is getting embarrassing for a major club like ours to dent their chances through lack of continuity. I would suspect there will be few that agree with me however.
23 Apr 2018 13:58:37
Great reply mate. I agree in that Jose is a winner and getting us to 3 cup finals in 2 years is impressive. It seems managers at Chelsea operate with one arm tied around their back especially when it comes to transfers. You are clearly a very well run club who is making a lot of profit from loaning and then selling players. But it seems like it will come to a point where managers would perhaps look at the Arsenal job as more attractive due to the fact that there is more job security than at Chelsea. Up until December I thought Chelsea would be the ones challenging city but you have fallen away alarmingly. Perhaps the uncertainty over conte has forced this. I do think that Jose may end up at Chelsea for one more spell. He is a fantastic manager and I don’t understand why there is such polar opposites in our fan base in regard to him.
23 Apr 2018 17:37:22
I can understand him being unpopular with some united fans, simply because of the style of play that Joses teams have. When I think of United I think of fast attacking play, from the Best, law, Charlton era to the Beckham scholes Giggs era. I have no doubt that is what many of your fans want, and no doubt looking at the brand of football produced by your closest rivals city and Liverpool, it makes it worse.
Jose will bring success, but it is how that success is achieved that will split the fanbase. Do u want success at any cost or success playing a specific way.
23 Apr 2018 19:03:03
At the end of the day it’s a results game. Winning is the most important thing. And with the attacking players at our disposal Jose should have us playing better. He deserves another year to sort out the defence and next year he has to play more attractive football. Spurs play pretty football but bottle it. But I agree it’s our tradition to play football the right way and we shouldn’t compromise. Attractive football and winning shouldn’t be mutually exclusive. I think next manager will have a good squad to build with.
23 Apr 2018 19:51:34
My opinion on Jose is that in one off games he is the master and over a period of two or three years players perform to the standard and style he demands but after that he becomes boring and boorish.
Most fans and Club management find his pre and post match comments embarrassing after a while.
It seems that nowadays, my comments about Jose could apply to a lot of fans and owners!
23 Apr 2018 19:54:39
What I liked about Jose is he has a winning mentality and wouldn’t change for anyone, my problem was always his ego when talking about other managers and attitude towards players, if you didn’t get off on right foot then you would soon be on your way out and chucking players under the bus, and like conte has fins out not to lose games rather than win,
23 Apr 2018 21:23:05
I agree with TomB the boring and boorish Mourinho becomes embarrassing and as good as he is, let others tell him not him tell them. That said he puts a good team together both defensively and attacking and I think that is what he will be concentrating on most post season at Man Utd but he is astute to know after a period all teams need freshening up and that is where he starts falling out with clubs when they do not see it his way. When he first arrived at Chelsea he had some exciting players who defended well and attacked at pace so I don't buy into him being boring, he makes use of what he has. I disagree with Matt Martin however, if you cannot win, you play for a draw, you do everything not to lose, one point is better than nothing. There is rarely a manager who eventually does not hack off the supporters as us supporters will ALWAYS be better managers than them!
23 Apr 2018 22:43:15
Great thread guys.
24 Apr 2018 22:02:40
There's a reason why Mourinho do not stay long with a club. He's a short term manager who assemble a group of very expensive players and over time lose idea and become very toxic when found out.
He builds his CV rather than the club.
{Ed0333's Note - and clubs still appoint him, It baffles me no end.
24 Apr 2018 21:18:54
I think looking at man city and liverpool games (mainly at their best players) you can't be not happy that Mourihno was sacked.
{Ed001's Note - if you had asked me before the season I would have said he is an excellent choice, he had taken Juve on a step from Conte through a better tactical grasp. However, this season I have watched a fair bit of Juve and I have my worries about how he would fare in England as his Juve are very solid but they really struggle against a press. Very few teams utilise it in Italy, but they were completely outplayed by Napoli last night, for instance, with Allegri showing no clue of how to change things to cope. In the English league you have at least 3 top teams with a pressing game, in Man City, Liverpool and Spurs. If he cannot figure out a tactic to deal with it, other than just sitting back and hoping to absorb attacks, then he is going to struggle to win the title in England, which is obviously the aim with Chelsea.}
