Chelsea Banter Archive June 21 2011

21 Jun 2011 23:44:05
Why when people put down there probable line ups do they include Lukaku in midfield or in a right/left forward role??? The lad is 18 and built like a brick sh*thouse, the only role he can possibly play for us is the main striker up front due to him being a younger version of Didier. Also, next season Lampard should be used in somewhat the same capacity as Scholes was at United, he should be there to provide experience for the younger ones, not used as our main midfielder because the fact is he isn't our best midfielder anymore (he is a legend and always will be i must add). We should be looking at the following:
Main Signings - Neymar (we need a flair player who is not afraid to try tricks)
Pastore/Modric/Sneijder - I would love to sign 2 but it is unlikely. We need a quality CM who can dictate and create, we have the grafters and defensive midfielders already (i.e. Essien, Ramires, Mikel)
VDW - We need an Ashley Cole on the right to support the attack, although if Luiz plays more and keeps diving in then i would rather Brana play due to his defensive capabilities.
Aguero/Falcao/Hulk - in that order, all quality strikers and different to each other, but Aguero just edges for me, technically quality, class act and offers more overall than Falcao and Hulk, he could produce the through balls for Nando aswell as our CMs, more so than Falcao and Hulk.
Future Stars - Lukaku (his physical presence will only get bigger, world class chelsea coaches will improve him overall aswell) , Erikssen (when he fills out he could be a future star for us), Taarabat (the quality and confidence that you need to play at the top level are there in abundance, would be a fantastic singing for us long term, game changer)
Dream Signings but never gonna happen - Sanchez (balance, pace, power etc. the list goes on, will be up there just behind Ronaldo and Messi in a few years), Fabregas (Obvious reasons), Titus Bramble (world class defender, technical ability is unmatched. Sorry couldn't resist haha)
Bad signings - Villa (too old now), Eljero Elia (another Kalou), De Bruyne (not good enough, Belgian version of David Bentley from what i have seen).

Next season we should be looking along the lines of this: 4-3-3
Cech, VDW, Terry, Luiz, Cole
Ramires, Essien, Pastore/Modric
Neymar, Torres, Aguero

We would win the league, but with AVB as manager then i honestly do not know who could beat us?? Barca......maybe?
We should get rid of Ferreira, Anelka, Malouda (PLEASE!), Drogba (PLEASE! too big a personality, we need Nando to be our main striker), Kalou (tries hard but not good enough), Mikel and maybe Zhirkov, although he's been unlucky.
Josh Mceachran should be sent out on loan, in a few years we could have a world class player on our hands if we look after him right.
If anyone disagrees or I have forgotten anything then please message back.

Finally - someone with a brain has posted his lineup!

I think everyone has gone mad here and thinks they are playing fantasy football.

Drogba had malaria last season and one must understand the reality of such a condition.

I am a season ticket holder and it was quite obvious that Italian football is too different. We won the double by accident the previous year as the useless Mikel got injured and Ballack of all players played a passing DMC role which fed the quick passing football to create chances.

Fact: Drogba is not finished
Lampard looked sluggish after being injured for most of the season, but still scored 10 goals.
There are a few to sell including Mikel who simply can't pass the ball expect backwards or 5 yards.

We need a manager with the understanding of real tactics and can complete in the PL against the negative sides.

AVB is a great choice and I hope to bring 3 new faces into the side, but PLEASE stop playing fantasy football and understand the real football world.

The real football world, where a £13.3 million pound release clause is paid for a manager?

I agree that Lampard and Drogba can still perform at this level, but not for long. Lampard will still be a regular starter, however, even if Drogba does stay he will not.

With the imminent unavailing of AVB I expect a busy summer transfer window. Hopefully our main targets (Neymar, Modric, VDW) will arrive. But don't expect that to be the only incoming business.

I could be wrong, but 3 players seems a little on the low side to me. That doesn't make it 'fantasy football'. Our squad needs rejuvenation, youthful talent! Not a complete overhaul, but if the right players are available at the right price then I expect a large amount of business to be done.

I am eagerly anticipating the next few months!

I love these so-called "true" Chelsea supporters who spout off that they're season ticket holders - translation: "I sat in Stamford Bridge, so what I proclaim shall be gospel, and everyone else who disagrees with me is a delusional fantasy football obsessive." So what if the original poster wants to dream! At least he placed players in their correct positions (which is more than I can say for everyone else who posts here) and is astute enough to point out where our problems lay last season, unlike most homer kool-aid drinking supporters who want to hoard players until they're 40 just because they had some good seasons when they were in their mid 20's.

"There are a few to sell including Mikel who simply can't pass the ball expect backwards or 5 yards."

Get real. Passing is one of Mikel's strengths, and you've obviously not watched many Chelsea matches on television (let alone in person) if you think that he can't pass. On his worst day he passed better than Essien did last season. It was a miracle if Michael passed it to a blue shirt (and he's my favorite player!). Of course you'll make an excuse up for him as well. If you want to fault Mikel for something

Fact: Drogba may not be finished, but he's almost there. And his attitude of entitlement at the club is a major problem, along with his partners in crime Maloser and Kalouless. If someone is stupid enough to pay decent money for him, I say take it! If anyone is willing to give us a bag of rocks for the other two, take it with no questions asked!

I have supported Chelsea for 28 years and have been a ticket for 10 years and if you dare state that Mikel's strength is passing then you obviously know nothing about sport or football !! Mikel is a donkey !

Original Poster here.

The season ticket holder for Chels who replied stating something about me living in a fantasy football world? why is that? As i make it everything i said was more than realistic, it was fact. What part of my 'Fantasy Football' post did you strongly disagree with?
"Fact: Drogba is not finished"??? Where did i state he was finished???

Reply Please.
Thankyou

Supported for 28 years? Haha! A bit hard since you're probably only 16.

This is the anonymous internet buddy, anyone can state that they've held season tickets or have supported a club for XX amount of years. Odds are, you started supporting Chelsea in 2004.

Mikel is no donkey. His only crime is that sometimes he appears to lose focus and make the random lazy pass. For the most part his forwards passes find a Chelsea player. I don't get where you claim that he constantly back passes. Maybe you're thinking of John Terry?

OP, please don't ask him to reply. He's just another one of those pasty, fat, friendless teenage boys who you always run into in football forums. They espouse the status quo (when all is crumbling around them) thrive on mediocrity and steadfastly survive on past history. If he was on our beloved Chelsea's board, we'd keep every player over 30 until they leave on a free transfer, just because they had one good season 3 years ago.

21 Jun 2011 21:34:01
Will the team still be built around Torres ED018 {Ed018's Note - well they are certainly not gonna give up on Torres. they will bring in the best players they can for the type of system they want to play. and we all kmow what areas are lacking. with Villas Boas certainly coming in, he likes to play a 4-3-3. and he likes to attack}

Good stuff Torres wil no dount be back next year Boas brings the best out of his players personally i would love a front 3 of Neymar Torres and Hulk with Modric Lampard and Essien

Who was 3rd striker with Falcao&Hulk at Porto? {Ed018's Note - Valera}

Yes Varela. I think there is excellent midfielder Guarin or something like that.

Are you thinking of Moutinho? Guarin is good as well.

21 Jun 2011 18:20:19
ed, u said that there will be news regarding neymar in early this week... are u still thinking this? can you give us any news on the story now maybe? {Ed018's Note - there is no news at this time}

21 Jun 2011 17:51:29
Ed, will Hiddink be the director of football with Andre Villas-Boas as coach?thank you ed {Ed018's Note - that is the plan}

Are you sure that's the plan?

I've got a feeling Hiddink will remain as an unpaid advisor. {Ed018's Note - as of right now thats what Chelsea would like. Its possible for Hiddink to change his mind. he also may see out the Euro qualifying process before making a change

21 Jun 2011 18:21:57
Ed will Chelsea get sibling this year or any other centre backs? {Ed018's Note - who is sibling

Hahaha! Sibling? Do David Luiz or Terry have a brother who plays center back?

Maybe he meant Subotic?

21 Jun 2011 12:18:03
Andre Villas Boas has quit at Porto! He will be confirmed as the new Chelsea boss by the weekend! He has payed some of his release clause himself!

21 Jun 2011 10:17:05
Get Falcao ! He's awsome!!

Yeah so's torres hahahaha

21 Jun 2011 09:31:43
Ed im really worried with some of the players linked in with the club at the moment, weve dropped from hiddink as our manager with signings such as modric aguero neymar kaka and mata to a 35 year old pretty much same age as the players who won a european trophy with Porto who is willing to bring players such as falcao and hulk along with players such as taraabt for me this a MASSIVE step down. Weve seen it before in that the players with the manager thing doesnt work ( deco ferriera queresma) so please tell me that hiddink will join and we wont sign taraabt i mean he didnt even get into the spurs reserve team it would be an insult to sign him. Also how close are we to signing the following players as you never really say!!:
Pastore
Aguero
Neymar
Modric
Mata
Villa ?? {Ed001's Note - are you really trying to tell me you are disappointed with AVB? Probably the best young manager in the game and you are moaning about it?}

OBVIOUSLY NEVER WATCH UEFA CUP MATCHES FALCAO AND HULK ARE AMAZING TALENTS INSTEAD OF PASTORE AT 50MILLION AND NEYMAR AT 45MILLION AND NEVER EVEN PLAYED OUT OF BRAZIL

21 Jun 2011 01:45:22
Ahh another new manager , dont like all this changing of managers at Chelsea, im thinking Scolari all over again, lets hope this works out ,
Looks like Modric is goin to jion us , as long as we can tempt Spurs with a nice bid..to be hionest looks like we, ll have to offer 30 mill At least
Expect at least 4 big signings now we have a new manager