Chelsea Banter Archive September 01 2015

 

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01 Sep 2015 20:54:10
Not too disappointed in this window. Pedro good signing. Falcao on loan could turn out to be good business. Can't comment on the two centre halfs as I never seen them play. Just feel a little let down as we where linked with some top quality players who could of taken us to the next level in greizman and pogba. I was just wondering if the eds knew, where the signings made actually Jose mourinho targets or just the club bringing in extra bodies for more squad depth. One thing good that come out of this is hopefully we will see more of lotus cheek and Kennedy.

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01 Sep 2015 22:58:57
I don't think Jose trusts loftus cheek to be honest he brings on mikel ahead of him most games so far that says it all really Kennedy looks good do infairness and I hope Rahman offers us something and we put Dave back to right back brana is a legend of a guy for us let's face it but he needs to be dropped there targeting him every game and it's working

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02 Sep 2015 09:09:25
All we have to do is play with pace, quick passing. And movement. With the players we have well beat most. If we keep playing sluggish dwell on the ball football we will carry on the way we started. We've got creativity and pace. Why does mourinho play us like this?

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01 Sep 2015 20:11:32
The transfer window is done, slammed shut, and good riddance to it. I've had a moan on here about a few things but now is the time to try and be positive and support what we have.

I'm looking forward to seeing the continued emergence of Ruben Loftus-Cheek and Kenedy for the rest of the season - I really hope we see a 4-3-3 formation with Loftus-Cheek in with Matic and one of the more offensive players; be it Oscar or Fabregas. As for Kenedy I only expect to see cameo performances from him in the league but I hope he continues in the same positive manor we saw against Palace - he looks like a real gem.

I'm also looking forward to seeing what we have in Baba Rahman. I really hope he assists in giving our team the balance it so desperately needs, both defensively and offensively. I'm also keen to see what we have in Dijlobodji (or Jeff as I've seen him called in a couple of places ala Dave for Azpilicueta) never heard of him before we were linked to him this week - hopefully he'll surprise me.

I'm not happy with a fair few things off the pitch at the club (a few of which I've moaned about on here) but I'll always support the team on it. With Courtios, Terry, Azpilicueta, Matic, Fabregas, Oscar, Hazard, Diego Costa etc. in the team we will turn our early season form around and show our class.

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01 Sep 2015 20:09:11
Cheers for the work over the transfer window eds. Don't want to bring negativity to the page but I would of liked to have seen us go for Otamendi before he signed for City. He's probably going to be fighting it out with Mangala for his spot. He was the best defender in La Liga last year. Coming into his prime, really strong, at 6'0 not the biggest CB but is a fine tackler.

Anyway I can't see us getting near City this year they're way too strong at the moment. We really do need the likes of Zouma, Rahman, RLC, Kenedy and Falcao to step up big time this year.

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02 Sep 2015 09:13:23
Good comments, but how do you expect players to step up with 10 minutes here 10 minutes their. They need a run in the team. Jose isn't the best manager for this. We all know that. For me Willian and ivanovic need dropping. Bring in like you say, Kennedy and baba.

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01 Sep 2015 18:00:24
ED do you think that we will go back in for pogba or stones in January as you said it wouldn't happen this window maybe getting a deal together for January perhaps?

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{Ed018's Note - January can be difficult, but I'd expect next summer for sure, although I can't help but think Pogba will be off to Barcalona}

01 Sep 2015 22:27:48
This reminds me of what happened with Neymar a few seasons back.

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02 Sep 2015 10:14:06
And aguero few years before that

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02 Sep 2015 00:56:36
Do you think Koke could be an option next year ed018 or do you think he'll stay at Atletico?

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01 Sep 2015 18:59:00
Thank God that's over. Kept the Pogba dream going to the end but not to be. Biggest regret, not getting Griezmann. Would not surprise me if Papys Djilobodji turned out to be quite an asset but time will tell. Apart from Stones I am not sure what to make of our transfer game-plan. Now we can look forward to getting our act together with the exciting Kenedy and introduction of Rahman which one must assume will see Ivanovic benched and Azi on the right. Hopefully a change in formation also and a full outing for Falcao.

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01 Sep 2015 18:36:18
It could be worse, you could support Arsenal!

They haven't signed one outfield player this window.

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01 Sep 2015 18:12:48
Window Review (in my opinion)
Ins:
Begovic: Good solid signing, at a fair price
Falcao: Could be a gamble, but might be a world class goalscorer for us
Nathan: Interesting young No. 10, Atletico Paranese clearly were unhappy to lose him, started his loan at Vitesse well.
Kenedy: Looks a real powerful young player, think he will be a real young star this season- very excited by him!
Rahman: A very good young LB, could potentially be with us for a very long time and could prove to be a very astute signing.
Pedro: Top player and hopefully a solution to the RW!
Manea: Although he is on loan and one for the future, he is a massive talent.
Pantic: Young goal scoring creative midfielder, a bit raw but could prove to be a top player
Dijlobodji: Small fee, but could prove to be a true bargain, have watched him a little at Nantes and he is very strong, fast, athletic centre back. Good squad player at minimum.
Hector: Know very little abour him, but a bit from a friend who is a Reading fan who says he could be a real bargain, fast and strong and Steve Clarke also recommended him; I do trust his view.
Will give my view on outs later! Would like to hear people's thoughts on my views!

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01 Sep 2015 20:23:05
Kennedy for me was the best buy this window . especially when he cam on against CP . he had the confidence and the ability to up the tempo and change the game, and like antibot said a while ago . its up to mou to take us up to the top and he sure knows how

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01 Sep 2015 18:08:27
Chelsea has a fantastic squad. The same one that superiorly won PL. It's up to Mourinho to sort it out.

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01 Sep 2015 17:58:59
32 Players out on loan! Hector goes straight back to Reading for the season! He's what 23, 24? When is he ever going to break into the first team - what a completely pointless bit of business!

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01 Sep 2015 18:15:11
Drogba only got his chance at the top at 24.
Why not give the lad a chance before ripping into him?

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01 Sep 2015 18:05:27
Yes I agree. I am not sure what kind of a club we are trying to become?

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01 Sep 2015 18:25:25
It's not the lads fault! I'm not ripping into him, it'd have rather seen him signed and kept. It's the club and their loan mentality I have a problem with!

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01 Sep 2015 18:34:55
Ian Wright was 27 when he joined Arsenal, Even in his early twenties he was playing non league


Schmeichel didn't leave Denmark and join Man United until he was 27. Late Bloomers.

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01 Sep 2015 18:50:45
Don't think J is having a go at the player himself, it's the fact that we have signed another young centre half, when, as he pointed out previously we already have at least another 4 highly rated young players, already out on loan. We already have Zouma and just signed the lad from Nantes, plus I expect we will go back for Stones in the future. If they all turn out to be good enough for the first team, then I assume we will have to sell some of them.

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01 Sep 2015 19:09:00
From what I've been told, we had a watching brief on Hector but were not planning on buying him until next summer but Spurs enquired about him so we moved - that's why he's gone back to Reading on loan.

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01 Sep 2015 17:29:25
Do think we need to learn from last year and get our targets sorted early and have them with squad for pre season and on that subject the giving team longer rest hasn't seemed to work why mess up a system that traditionally gives us a good start and help put pressure on other teams
Come on Chelsea now the distraction of the window is over let's get 100% behind the team even if we have challenges

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01 Sep 2015 18:09:23
I think our slowness in the market was due to the club/board's initial reticence to spend the money on the players that would have improved us. We won the league last season at a canter despite playing poorly from January, and it was probably thought we wouldn't need major signings in order to challenge again. Fast forward 4 weeks, and an abysmal start to the season and the board realise we need the players but we've left it too late to get the deals across the line.
Personally I think if we'd offered Everton £30-40m for Stones on July 1st, he'd be our player.
With regards to the late start for preseason, I can see why it was done but it hasn't worked out. And it was probably decided back when JM thought he'd get his signings.

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01 Sep 2015 19:15:44
We had identified our top targets but didn't get them - we wanted Icardi, Griezmann, Varane and/or Stones but didn't get them. We were also interested in Sterling but were unwilling to pay what City paid. We did get long-term targets Nathan, Kenedy, Rahman and Begovic. Last summer we were lucky and the deals were done quickly - this summer they didn't work out. I don't think anyone's to blame.

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01 Sep 2015 17:26:08
We have brought in Papy Djilobodji and are potentially looking to bring in Michael Hector - two players who, with the best will in the world, are not going to be threatening the starting 11 any time soon. They've been brought in to bolster the numbers in a defence that needed bolstering. Do I feel a bit underwhelmed by the signings? Yes of course I do. I expected much better players to come in, but these were not available and we needed numbers so our scouting network have identified these players to bolster the squad - now all I can say is good luck to them, hope they do well.

However I do have an issue with the two signings - We have thirty-one players out on loan, more players out on loan than most football league teams have in their squads. Nathan Ake, Andreas Christensen, Tomas Kalas & Kenneth Omerou are all defenders who have all played for their respective international sides up to at least U21 level; and they're currently out on loan.

I don't think that we should have signed anyone different to Papy Djilobodji or Michael Hector, as I said the scouting network have done their job, but I'd have much rather seen two of the aforementioned loan players, probably Christensen and Kalas, kept in the squad.

This loaning players out is getting well and truly out of hand. I accept some players, such as Ake, need experience and others, such as Moses, have no future and need to be loaned as a sale isn't possible but we've loaned players out that could have filled gaps in the squad. It doesn't make sense to me to loan players out prior to filling said gaps - surely they should be sent out once the squad is complete?

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01 Sep 2015 17:24:39
What must kalas think
Why not give him 5 games in a row and see
I thought against liverpool he was great

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02 Sep 2015 14:34:06
One game doth not a season make! Does anyone think that Chels doesn't keep a record of a player's progress? Does anyone believe that if Chels thought he was ready / good enough for the 1st team that he wouldn't be played. I remember Josh McEachran looking fantastic in pre-season games - is anyone now saying he is good enough for our 1st team? Does anyone believe that Sinclair, Jack Cork, Di Santo, Huth, Mancienne, Borini were / are good enough for our 1st team? We have to trust that when a player is deemed good enough physically and mentally he will be included in the 1st team squad.

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01 Sep 2015 16:55:04
Hi who is ed002? why is everyone talking about him? Welcome back I guess. xx

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01 Sep 2015 17:04:41
Firstly, a big thank you to the Eds especially number 18 for all the info this window.

Secondly, I still think come May we will be in amongst it fighting for honurs. Just hope to see us go back to 4-3-3 getting RLC and Kenedy involved. And I think we've had a decent window as Pedro, Falcao and Kenedy will all come good and add the much needed pace once it all clicks into place.

Finally I'm edging a little bet that Remy may end up at Spurs. Just a cut feeling.

Peace out fellow Blues!

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01 Sep 2015 17:09:39
Agreed. Eds have been spot on. They said Pogba deal would be very difficult and they were right.

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01 Sep 2015 16:49:09
We are all going to be upset with this transfer window we've stood still hope the new centre back is a bargain and turns out good buy but am sorry I don't personally think that Jose mourinho has had anything to do with them signings even got my doubts on pedro if Jose wanted him. Just like caudrado deal who actually bought him or wanted him because it was Jose by the sounds of it. Stood still and the league will show it in end no wonder Jose looks pissed.

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01 Sep 2015 16:48:39
Looks like its going to be a season where we start playing our youth players, wait we've loaned them all out

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01 Sep 2015 15:58:56
Why are some fans so negative? Saying our season is "over" after four games and "We'll never sign Pogba" "Chelsea won't sign any big names" etc etc. Well we're still in negotiations with Juve on deadline day so there must be a chance! Honestly, I don't see what is to be gained from being do negative. Just my opinion, but I think we're better off being positive.

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01 Sep 2015 16:10:37
Seasons not over by a LONG way yet. But what's clear is that the team needs an injection of something. Something isn't clicking. And we just need that one signing to set it off.

We will still have a successful season. We'll go further in champs league and will still push for the title. We're getting our "blip" out the way.

Win or lose support the blues!

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01 Sep 2015 15:55:35
Any deal for Pogba would, I assume, now be straight cash as their transfer window for incoming players has closed.

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01 Sep 2015 15:07:19
Pogba deal not looking too good now I feel Ed002. Running out of time with only 3 hours left of the window. Have we got a back up?

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{Ed002's Note - What do you mean "back up"?}

01 Sep 2015 15:17:07
I think he means an alternative should things not go to the ideal plan(signing Pogba) I think its safe to answer this one simply "no"

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01 Sep 2015 16:01:14
Considering we need a central midfielder / defensive midfielder to play next to matic and we all no we need one this deadline day has been as big a disappointment than the whole summer it just seems like nothing is going to happen and der is no sign of a creative midfielder or defensive one coming we all knew pogba would be difficult surely they must of had an alternative do. if the board and Jose can't see we need creativity and a defensive mid then they need to open der eyes . pedro u can say was brought in I was happy with that but we need more

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01 Sep 2015 15:38:19
Exactly that. So if Pogba doesn't sign, it will be just the Player from Nantes and also player from Reading?

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{Ed002's Note - Chelsea are not going to buy players for the sake of it.}

01 Sep 2015 15:38:31
Pogba will come. But I don't just get the hype around this guy.

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01 Sep 2015 16:14:09
No I know they won't. But as it's been said before. We are lacking in the centre midfielder area. It seems it's the only place that hasn't been covered that's all.

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01 Sep 2015 17:08:34
Agree Adam there was plenty on offer this year Vidal kondogbia song etc anyone would of been a step up on Mikel

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01 Sep 2015 16:54:39
you say the club won't sign players for the sake but the two signings today would make a case to beg different if both players were 18-21 I could maybe understand but in the football world today players who are going to make it normally have by the age of 23 and to say breaking into a struggling reading team only last year is making it is a push. In terms of the window as a whole for us it was reasonable in my opinion we did great business signing begovic and In pedro we have a good first team quality option who should lend much needed help in the goal scoring department. In terms of midfield we didn't get our main target in pogba but those deals are always so complex it was always going to be a long shot. I think of greater importance than who we did or didn't sign its simply now getting our current squad to rediscover their form as individuals we didn't simply become a bad squad over one summer and hopefully this poor start will give mourinho the needed push to be bravier in potentially blooding the likes of kennedy RLC and traore.

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{Ed002's Note - One is signed as cover the other had been reccomended by his manager, watched by ME, discussed during the Piazon negotiations and will likely spend the rest of the season on loan at Reading. This is far from a shock.}

01 Sep 2015 14:50:58
It is getting very late in the day now and nothing exciting or encouraging seems to be happening. My guess is that Chelsea will be unsuccessful yet again. There were lots of players available this summer that the club should have signed to improve the team massively but we were slow to the market and have been punished accordingly.

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01 Sep 2015 15:20:42
Can I just ask which players you would of bought, at the price they were sold for? And whether they showed any interest in moving to England, let alone Chelsea. As deals aren't as easy as saying, I want that one, I'll pay x amount, thanks.

Look at Utd. Overpaid for a couple of players and still have a weaker squad then us. Citeh were just mental and will live to regret it. They may well win the league this year, but it will come back to haunt them. Liverpool were a mess, again. Arsenal and Spurs haven't made much of an impact. Realisticly, the only player that has gone to any of the clubs mentioned, that I'd want, would be Son. And maybe the defender from Valencia whose name escapes me. Son has no resale value, as he has to complete 18 months in the SK army before 28, and the Valencia lad has proven nothing in the league, and went for stupid money.

Everyone can moan about the club being slow in the market, but not when everyone was also asking for the youth to get a chance, which will most likely happen now. I, personally, am fine with the window we have had. We didn't get our pants pulled down by anyone, got a terrific second choice keeper in, have the possibility of a world class striker as back up, brought in some quality youth, and have loaned out some youngsters extremely well, once again.

If Eden can rediscover form, Oscar show consistency after his first summer break from football, Costa get back in form, RLC and Kenedy get good minutes, Zouma cement his spot and Rahman show some promise with Azpi shifting to RB, I'll be more then happy. We might not win the league, but will be in a great position to challenge on all fronts the year after, with some new additions.

I saw no one predict anything really negative before pre season, yet now everyone is a genius. Support the club, win, lose or draw, and watch our team grow.

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01 Sep 2015 15:37:23
Agree with you somewhat but why will citeh live to regret it

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01 Sep 2015 15:43:41
Melbourne, I was negative pre-season - please give me that.

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01 Sep 2015 15:54:25
Agree completely with what Melbourne was saying. The players that we were associated with that went elsewhere were largely no better than players we already had and would've had the potential to block youngsters paths to the first team. Take Garay from Zenit for example and compare him to the centreback from Nantes. Garay would've costed a good deal and would've most likely been more difficult to move down the line whereas the Nantes guy is very reasonably priced and wouldn't be difficult to move or prevent the club from signing a primary target (stones, varane) down the line.

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01 Sep 2015 16:02:11
Fair enough Mrs Costa, you were. I just assume that's your general outlook though ;)

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01 Sep 2015 16:02:24
Melbourne in reply not all players in the list I am now making off the top of my head have moved but it was made clear that they would be made available at the right price that in most cases were not astronomical. I will focus on midfield and attack as I do agree targets for cb have been difficult. Cabeye, imbula, kondogbia, vidal, song, schnerderlin. Isco, goetze, lacazette, sterling. As I said this list is just of the top of my head with 2 mins thinking. It has been clear since about jan/Feb this year that we needed a new world class right winger, cm and striker to be proper replacement for Costa but in my opinion the only position the club may have done that for is rw. I have stated this again and again sine about mid last season. Don't even get me started on the club signing cuadrado over reus and not accepting isco in exchange for ramires!

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01 Sep 2015 15:59:59
The money they have spent this window will make it near impossible for them to spend on anyone significant again in the next two seasons, without major sales (think Aguero and Silva). They didn't need Sterling and KBD. One would've added enough fire power to most likely claim the league, as both are good attacking threats, but neither are CL proven. And playing for the club that has also suffered in the competition, with an owner who is craving big ears and if they aren't successful this year, it will only end in tears.

Think in terms of injuries, which are bound to come about, especially with someone like Aguero. Who is a PL proven striker in there squad now that Dzeko is gone? Sterling failed miserably when he played there at Liverpool. Unal is not ready. I can't remeber if Jovetic ended up getting loaned, but if not, he has brittle bones as well. So they have added to a midfield, that had quality, with one player who has zero loyalty, and another that has zero bottle. Neither of which will have sale on value. The centre of defence when it was the fullback spots that needed looking after, and the player they brought in is a risk, and they have done nothing upfront, when their star man has a tendency to get injured. And due to their spending, may now not be able to fill the holes they've left in the coming seasons, without selling their two clear best players. TV money may be what they are relying on, but when owner investment can amount to £45m over three years, if the club fails to make a profit, I'd be doubtful it will do enough.

So if you asked me, they could well regret this window!

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01 Sep 2015 16:20:41
I agree City will live to regret this summer. They seem to be buying for the sake of it. £58m for De Bruyne is ridiculous. And even if he is English, £49m for Sterling is just as ludicrous. Let's see how long De Bruyne sits on the bench before spitting his dummy. Also, I don't know if EUFA have just given up on FFP, but City have already been warned and I just can't see how they can afford this without selling big. And, as Melbourne alluded to, when Aguero picks up his inevitable injury who is going to score for them?

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{Ed008's Note - De Bruyne walks into that City team, De Bruyne-Silva-Sterling with Aguero upfront. Bony will score the goals for them. You've just got to admit that Man City have had a hell of summer bring 3 players in who all strengthen the team. The positions they struggled in last season.

Chelsea needed a centre-back,left-back, right-winger, attacking midfielder, and a back up striker and they only addressed 2 of those issues where they actually get into the team in Pedro and Falcao.

01 Sep 2015 16:18:02
Reus wasnt avaible in Jan, if my memory serves, he was still only just coming back from an injury, and his attitude has been widely publicised as poor. Not to mention he has spoken of his desifre to play in Spain, close to a billion times, so I think the club did well to steer clear.

And when were we offered Isco for Ramires in a straight swap? Isco has been available this summer, you're right about that, but what's the price? Something we are not privy to, and with no club signing him, you have to assume its stupid money. All this talk of RM being keen on Rami has led to how many bids?

Every player you mentioned has risk attached or some ridiculous amount of money, that they aren't worth. Or, like in Songs case, a ridiculous wage, that he isn't worth. Cabaye is a flake, who couldn't cut it at PSG, so why would we want him. Schniederlin wanted United, not Chelsea. Vidal has gone backwards since his injury. Lacazette is ridiculous money, for an unproven commoditity. Goetze proved hit and miss at Bayern, plus, like Isco, while available no one has acquired him. Why?

As much as it has been in the past, and fans crave new toys, its not FIFA15 mate. We know nothing of the details of deals. So you can't blast the club, with a quarter or less of the information they have. Some players have poor attitudes, which I, for one am happy we scan for. Hazard almost didn't come because of his attitute. The club madethe right call on that one, and I wholeheartedly trust them going forwards.

I do agree with you that players were available, but is it worth the club being held to ransom, to get a player that wasnt one of our top priorities?

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01 Sep 2015 17:05:03
You make some excellent points Melbourne and other than the ( City regretting it ), I pretty much agree with you. We are in fairly good shape overall with a decent first 11 and some strength in depth. The loan players must bring in over £20M per year in income ( Moses loan fee is £2M with West Ham also paying his wages ). I would of liked Stones or Varanne but as you say, we can't force clubs to sell. Now I think our season will depend on the young players stepping up a notch. If Baba proves to be a quality player and Jose switches Dave to RB and makes Zouma our main CB with either JT, Cahil, Branna or even one of the new signings our defence looks better. We then need RLC to step up and slot into the role alongside Matic which is where Pogba would likely of played. Oscar could be like signing a £50M player if he comes back fresh and continues to develop but we also need Kenedy and Traore to step up as well. I think Costa, Falcao and Remy will all score plenty of goals between them so up front we are fine. In summary, your points are excellent but I feel 2 or 3 of Baba, Zouma, RLC, Kenedy and Traore need to go to the next level for us to really challenge this Season.

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01 Sep 2015 17:47:48
Melbourne, we were offered Isco last summer if I recall correctly.

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01 Sep 2015 17:23:09
Ed008, would like to point out we have signed a very good LB in Baba Rahman and also have Bertrand Traore to come in who I think could be a real breakthrough star this season as a Striker, Winger or maybe even as an Attacking Midfielder. Don't know enough about Papy, but at the price it is worth the gamble and could prove to be a bargain.
I think KDB will do okay at City, but Wolfsburg set their entire team up around him and City won't do that as their team is set up around Yaya Toure and to a lesser extent David Silva. I for one am curious to see if he can still be influential in this kind of system, he struggles in this role for Belgium with the team being set up around Hazard.

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{Ed008's Note - Is Baba Rahman good because you've seen him play? I doubt it very much you will see Traore play many games this season. Mourinho is stubborn and has set on his core 18 players to choose from despite complaining about lack of squad depth.

01 Sep 2015 14:45:23
Izzy Brown has today (Tuesday) signed a new four-year contract.

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01 Sep 2015 14:39:32
I wish someone would just come out and say the Pogba deal won't happen. Put us all out our misery, oh the suspense! On the flip side, maybe that's why nothing has been said yet. because in secret it's all happening and at 5:59pm as if by magic we've signed him ;)

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01 Sep 2015 15:19:24
Pogba deal won't happen.

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{Ed002's Note - Let's hope it doesn't so you are all happy.}

01 Sep 2015 14:11:29
Transfer deadline day on ssn is so ffing stupid
All though can't wait for it to end
They have based a whole day of tv on BS and rumours they know about as much as I do until the club's release the news but they go on and on
My personal favourite is were getting news on a particular player and particular club and they feel the need to go to the training ground of that club to tell us the same ffing thing WHY
Rant over

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01 Sep 2015 15:45:08
Turn off your telly and improve your mind by reading a book!

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01 Sep 2015 14:05:09
All this pogba talk I don't think it's on I don't really care really great player
The position next to matic does need replaced
What about kondogbia or imbula not as good as pogba but better that ramires imo
Probably been mentioned before just throwing my opinion out there not that it will make a difference

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{Ed018's Note - Kondogbia and Imbulla both just moved this summer}

01 Sep 2015 13:47:11
Well that's two deals done, Papy Djilobodji and Michael Hector. Maybe saving the best till last.Pogba, wishful thinking I know but still time I guess :)

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01 Sep 2015 13:47:05
ED018 - is out transfer negotiations with Pogba under the radar? Probably a really daft question but ssn are saying nothing in it and if they knew I couldn't see them passing up the chance to stir
Up and big bonanza for views.

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{Ed018's Note - I can only go on the update Ed002 gave earlier.}

01 Sep 2015 13:32:27
So Dijibolji into the squad this season, Hector signed and loaned back (apparently Steve Clarke recommended him to us and we see him as one for the future), Pogba deal appears to be dead though, but remember, at 23:45 Torres was not for sale despite being in a helicopter, plus a window later, Mereiles signed in just 30 minutes.
Still an interesting few hours ahead!

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01 Sep 2015 13:49:36
Let's be honest a deal as huge as pogba is not going to happen in the next 4 hours. I'm only guessing but I would say the club is probably trying to tie up a deal for next season before Barcelona get in.

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01 Sep 2015 14:01:15
Its not like negotiations are starting right now, so saying its not like a deal is going to happen in 4 hours, isn't stating what's actually been going on.

I'm not saying he will or won't sign, but that thought process just isn't correct.

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01 Sep 2015 13:28:09
Well as I said before I don't think pogba will happen with less than 5 hours to go a deal like that just won't happen

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01 Sep 2015 14:30:45
The five hours is irrelevant, they have probably had dialogue with the Club and him on and off for over a year. The deadline time is for the benefit of the holding Club as they play brinkmanship; look at the Horlicks that Real Madrid made last night with De Gea trying to be clever. If we don't get him it won't be for the want of trying and unless he baulks at the move, every player has his price. If you are worried nip down to City Airport and give the rest of us the heads up when he flies in for his medical!

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01 sep 2015 12:53:15
michael hector from reading. is this some sort of sick joke? - starting to have serious doubts over the season, can see us in the dreaded europa league this time in march. we need lacazette and pogba/witsel - not championship standard players

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01 Sep 2015 12:51:30
Michael Hector. erm? Why?!

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01 Sep 2015 12:56:16
May be with 2 £4mill defenders we are saving money for a big pogba bid later
Here's hoping

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01 sep 2015 12:55:03
agreed absolutely terrible - we are starting to become arsenal

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01 Sep 2015 13:18:15
I have never heard of or seen Michael Hector play and I'm guessing neither have any of the above. I don't know anything about him but he may turn out to be brill - so how can anyone criticise the deal before seeing him play?!

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{Ed018's Note - it was just mentioned he could stay with Reading on loan}

01 Sep 2015 12:35:48
If we are looking at a possible 2 to 3 players today . I would have thought one could possibly be cover at Fullback?

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01 Sep 2015 12:33:13
Now this is just my feeling and it is only a feeling probably completely wrong but I think the big push may end up being stones again. I don't think pogba will happen! I can just seeing us go one more time

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01 Sep 2015 15:42:18
Stones won't go. There is no way that Everton will go back on their word now. He will be chased again in January or next summer.

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01 Sep 2015 12:04:48
Would wanayma of Southampton make a difference to our team, he does want out.

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{Ed018's Note - I don't think he would. The one time I watched him ah this season he was awful. I kinda get the feeling Schnederlin carried him in that midfield}

01 Sep 2015 10:36:20
was going about my daily business expecting nothing from cfc today to be honestso all calm and not listening to media BS
then the enigma ed002 comes up with cfc are trying to get 2 to 3 more players in so i'm all nerves now
new on here and ed002 hasn't posted while I've been on becoz of abuse, what's that all about
anyway thanks ed002

dont know anything of this new nantes defender but at that price I would think he's a stop gap until next summer when we can go for a stones or varane type signing it would be funny if the new guy was great after all this stones talk especially for that price

im ok with chelsea side as it is to honest I know form isn't great at minute but with a bit of tinkering should go back to winning ways

swansea 10 men for nearly half the match
city I was pleased at the way we attacked them and didn't sit out a nil nil draw at least we went for it
wba I thought this was a good result with 10 men again
palace I think was a bad one but jose did come out and say there will be changes and his sentiment in some players got in the way
so i'm hopeful it will be a good season still really early 8 points is nothing over another 34 games plus 3 cups
ktbffh

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01 Sep 2015 12:20:29
Top post gianfranco gola, that's the correct attitude in my opinion.

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01 Sep 2015 13:01:28
City have a better squad than we do and properly outplayed us. 3-0 is a heavy result, but it's also the most difficult domestic game we have IMO. I'm not mad at that defeat.
As you said, Swansea. We were reduced to 10 men and looked the better side apart from the first 10 minutes after the sending off.
Palace is the one that actually stings for me. But I'm confident that there'll be changes and we'll come out blazing against Everton.
Up the Blues!

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01 Sep 2015 09:36:45
Good to hear efforts are still being made for Pogba, at least we're trying! I wonder if the fact they signed Hernanes from Inter last night will have any bearing on the deal. I suspect it's not Juve we are trying to persuade, it's Pogba himself?

I don't know much about this Papy fella, could be a hidden gem. or not.

I rate Matuidi at PSG, him or Witsel would be good back-up plans if the Pogba deal fails. Centre backs are difficult targets as none of them are proven in the prem, unless we went for Winston Reid or someone like that. Let's hope for a successful day :)

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01 Sep 2015 09:08:05
Moses has signed a new long-term deal at Chels b4 being loaned - WTF?

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01 Sep 2015 09:23:33
Piontless ain't it. Another Romeu type of move . He signed a new contract last year and moved to Southampton this year!

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{Ed002's Note - It is to protect his value before being sold next summer.}

01 Sep 2015 09:31:24
purely to obtain a good sale price when the time is right.

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01 Sep 2015 09:48:05
Exactly we received a fee for Romeu didn't we.

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01 Sep 2015 03:55:56
Can't help but thini that Wolfsburg have won out selling De Bruyne for £54m and signing Draxler for £26m. There isn't much difference in quality, and where Citeh will likely see zero return if they resell KDB, Wolfsburg leave the door open to possibly double their investment.

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01 Sep 2015 08:36:43
I was thinking the same thing, Melbourne. Draxler has had a difficult last few seasons with injuries etc, but he's still very young. And his talent is undeniable. If they give him the sale role as they did KDB, i.e. a free role on the pitch, his impact could be huge!

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01 Sep 2015 12:58:31
I don't see why City wouldn't get resell on KDB? He's 24 isn't he? And even in a season or 2 , he will still be worth 40 million + , maybe more

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01 Sep 2015 13:16:26
You just proved the point. 40m is less than 56m. The asset has depreciated. If I lost 15m in 4 years I would be kinda sad. Not exactly how it works but I'm guessing the player don't increase in value anymore. When was the last time city sold for a profit?

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01 Sep 2015 14:04:43
Thanks Marley. Seemed blatant enough. Plus his fee was most likely well over £60m when you add on agent fees etc.

Even if he performs well, one bad injury within the next 2-3 years his value instantly decreases.

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01 Sep 2015 00:04:07
Good luck to Chalobah at Napoli! Agressive loan move but if he carves out a role for himself there could be huge upside.
Wish him all the best :-)

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