Chelsea Banter Archive February 19 2019

 

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19 Feb 2019 23:08:38
Hey Ed002,

Are the rumours that the Chelsea Hierarchy have held talks about the recent form and results accurate?

Also are the rumours linking Lampard and Zidane to the job true?

Thank You in advance.

KTBFFH!

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{Ed002's Note - I have previously explained about a third party helping out with something and I have previously explained about Zidane.}

20 Feb 2019 05:00:55
Don’t think someone monotiring training sessions is enough tbh, it’s sarri’s predictable lineups and baffling subsititions.

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19 Feb 2019 19:59:02
i wrote a whole load, dissecting last nights game and the poor performers. But deleted it.
Bottom line Sarri must go, even the fans have turned on him. It’s clear the players aren’t performing for him. Same issue with subs. Zappe sub summed it up, couldn’t bring on cho because if he turned the game it would mean he has been wrong.
Don’t get me wrong it’s not all the manager, some troublesome and poor performing players need shipping out.
First out door, Luiz, alonso, Willian, Zappa, closely followed by kovacic, Barklay, jorghino and I’m sorry to say dave.
The reason these players, we need new players, to get rid of the dressing room mafia. Those players have no respect for the fans they way they are acting and performing.
We spent a lot of money on a good keeper but he has no confidence in the team in front of him, this is affecting his performance.
Trouble is being a Chelsea fan is all extreme highs or depressing frustration.
The man for the job is not zidane.
Bring back carlo.

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19 Feb 2019 20:23:54
Andrew, I don’t want Sarri sacked but I do agree about Carlo coming back but I’ve got this strange feeling the board/ owner might well make a surprising appointment.

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19 Feb 2019 20:47:09
Trouble is TomB, he can’t stay he is inflexible. As a manager I don’t think you can have a my way or the highway approach. You can’t keep repeating things that aren’t working. The biggest indicator of that is subs. Teams can plan against us knowing exactly what we are going to do.

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19 Feb 2019 20:54:19
Agree guys Carlo would be my preferred choice but no way Napoli would let us take another one of their managers. I'd expect a Blanc or Allegri, and both managers will struggle in similar fashion because of this squad. And we'll be here going through new potential managers this time next season unless most of these players are gone and replaced with quality.

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19 Feb 2019 21:10:54
I agree LondonBlues, I think Sarri requires more time but I also think his stubbornness and boring substitutions will regrettably be his downfall.

I can’t remember who the poster was who said “the players will be getting away with it again” but I think that point is well made.

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19 Feb 2019 21:27:03
Trouble is we need a clear out, get rid of dressing room mafia. Almost start again. I’m also not sure it’s not time for Eden to go. He can’t keep threatening so get best money we can. Thing is if we have a clear out we can get decent money. It’s not always about stars. Buy team players, because team players are what we are missing. Players who play for the team, manager and supporters and not for themselves. Just dissalutioned with current bunch.

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19 Feb 2019 21:43:51
Indeed andrew, this is why i want us to involve more youth next season. Get these guys in the team, they'll show that desire and fight for the club, they'll play for the badge and bring more of a connection between fans and the players. Get Reece James in the set up with Aina, start CHO and involve Ampadu more often. You'll never question their mentality and surround them with quality. Sign the likes of Romagnoli, Jovic, Mendy, Fekir and Pepe. Doesn't have to be those exact players just needs to be proven quality not quantity. With this type of mix managers would have a much better chance surviving here and i think would find it much easier to implement their style into the team.

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20 Feb 2019 00:19:29
My choice would definatelly be Alegri. The guys has passion for football similar to Conte's. Also he is Proven winner and would definatelly not allow the players to rule his dressing room.

Him and JT as his assistant would be amazing.

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20 Feb 2019 03:09:25
Morris id love as assistant he will give CHO and Christensen starts and give them a kick up the backside.

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20 Feb 2019 14:17:27
Steve Holland for me. JT his assistant. Lamps/ Morris is far too early into their careers to be considered.

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19 Feb 2019 18:42:54
Sarri won't hang jorginho our to dry and replace him, so if I were him with the troubles, I'd play 4231 like others have suggested, let jorginho play that ball around like a hot potato but let kante do what he does and clean up after him, then. I'd have hazard Willian and Cho ahead, Willian so he could press like Sarri demands but also once we do get the ball back we can break fast, get up the pitch fast, Willian / kante both could carry a ball 30/ 40 yards from a stand still, plus with Willian central it's a player who would shoot from distance, just like we saw v Barcelona last year, but also having that outlet wide in players like hazard and Cho, and if in Sarri and I worry Emerson not tactically there but Zappa is. try Azpi LB and Zappacosta RB, it's a way to tweak but save your philosophy slightly at least until players you want arrive, v city we need protection in middle but defenders need to keep that width because I said when we won 2-0 v city that's there strengths, also hazard could play behind hig with Cho left n Willian right because they've shown they have good link up st times.

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19 Feb 2019 18:53:49
And going into next season whoever is in charge one thing is we miss is the size and strength in centre. A Matic Bakyoko type as we got bullied at times yesterday. Savic of lazio is a goal threat, left sided and a big strong unit, a player who can arrive in box like pogba did.

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19 Feb 2019 18:56:54
Good post Matt.

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19 Feb 2019 19:15:44
Very constructive post Matt. Your proposed team wouldn’t be mine but I get your rationale.

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19 Feb 2019 19:37:21
Cheers guys.

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19 Feb 2019 17:58:37
Anyone know what is the nagging injury that RLC has? I feel he is the dynamic midfielder that would solve some of our issues. He would be superb on the right side of midfield, with Kante and Barkley filling out the other spots. He's the only midfielder who I think has a natural instinct to attack.

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19 Feb 2019 18:13:50
Matt his got a persistent back injury unfortunately. However, even if he was fit do you think Sarri would play him is the question? He doesn't seem to change his first 11 much.

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20 Feb 2019 14:38:13
Unfortunately Shak, you're right. He's mostly been deployed on the right wing if I recall correct.

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19 Feb 2019 13:54:41
Here is me being hopeful.

I hope Sarri turns this around. I hope he woke up this morning and does the following;

- Bench Alonso and plays Emerson
- Rests Jorginho
- Play Kante closer to the regista
- Give CHO, RLC and AC a chance
- Promise the board to not take Mic and bring on Zappacosta when we are losing 2 nil and have a few mins left
- No more like for like subs

If he does that then he may survive slightly longer.

I am still Sarri in, just frustrated. It's a tough job and he needs to stop being stubborn.

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19 Feb 2019 14:35:42
Rest jorginho?!? lol. Never happen. Far too stubborn. He’s not good enough going forward and even worse going back.

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19 Feb 2019 14:38:32
Loftus-cheek is injured. Really has to get back sorted otherwise goodbye to a Chelsea career.

CHO won’t see any minutes. Sarri obviously not a fan and final straw was not using him last night. Awful subs.

Sarri won't change his way’s, subs will always be the same as he won’t try and change formation. May as well only name 3 subs. So predictable. Just like the play on the field.

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19 Feb 2019 18:24:41
Feel for the guy for being so stubborn. He clearly isn't thinking right. He knows there are problems but it seems he isn't stepping back and looking at the problems from far. It seems that he is running for solutions and is ignoring everyone in the process. By playing the same players that are letting him down and making the same subs is baffling and demonstrates his stubborn characteric. Everyone can see that his making mistakes barring him which is strange. He is so fixated into the job atm. If he is sacked he will realise his mistakes but obviously it would be too late.

I still give him credit for starting in blistering fashion.

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19 Feb 2019 09:41:48
Even still I'm unsure sacking sarri will be the correct move. Who do we bring in zidane, wenger, Jose there's not one manager out there that could squeeze more out of this team. If sarri does get the boot then he only has himself to blame, his constant picking of alonso, his determination to get Jorginho in the team in place of probably the worlds best midfielder for the last 2/ 3 seasons. No plan B, same substitutions every week and his reluctance to give RLC and CHO more game time. Even after all these bad results of late I think with a couple of small changes could bring huge results in terms of performance. Kant must go back to do what he does best and sit deep in midfield breaking up attacks. CHO starts and we try everything we can to get this kid to change his mind about leaving. I keep asking myself the same question'if sarri was sacked who would replace him?
Zidane: I don't think he would be the right person but could help with hazard staying and as he's a huge name playing wise then maybe we could attract a better calibre of player.
Lampard: I'm not convinced he is ready yet but would bring a feel good factor back to the fans.
I hope sarri decides to make the small changes I have mentioned but maybe Nuno santo would be an option.
Premiership expierience, some really good performances against top teams and play good football. Maybe an option.

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19 Feb 2019 09:55:33
IMO a very constructive post, as always, BLUE.

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19 Feb 2019 10:12:44
My guess is ther will be substantial changes in the next transfer window.

IMO, the majority of the following will be leaving:-

Cahill
Luiz
Zappacosta
Kovacic
Odoi
Giroud
Higuain
Willian
Pedro
Hazard
and maybe one or two others.

Our board has big decisions to make, I hope they have a DofF in place sooner rather than later because I haven’t got a huge amount of faith in their ability.

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19 Feb 2019 10:35:43
I agree NWBLUE, who is out there who could take over? Sarri will be replaced either before Sundays Cup Final or more likely afterwards, the whole world can see that. You only had to look at Bruce Buck last night and it was in his eyes, trust me he is gone. As for your list of players out Tom it is just not realistic. Firstly, players with contracts are not always easy to sell on, secondly, with a possible transfer ban looming we can't just out a third of the squad and thirdly, with a new manager coming in who knows what CHO and Hazard will do.

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19 Feb 2019 11:26:44
G8, I don’t necessarily want some of those players to leave but the club finds itself in a position where it has to make contract decisions on players who have NO contract or just one year left on their current deal.

Could be an interesting window.

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19 Feb 2019 08:58:46
Last night was truly awful. We have a leaky defence, a midfield that creates nothing and contributes very few goals, and a frontline that has to feed off scraps.

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19 Feb 2019 10:54:01
people rave about rudiger brucefc but i think he's as poor as luiz both rash defenders of the highest order.

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19 Feb 2019 15:15:26
so was utd defence when Mourinho was i charge. Confidence I a big key which under Sari there is none.

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19 Feb 2019 07:55:14
I think Sarri has lost majority of the fans in the stadium, social media and even on here.

Personally I desperately wanted stability at the club and wanted an attacking brand of football at the club. I wasn't too bothered about the results as long as Sarri showed his got the tactical nous. However, Sarri is way to stubborn to survive unless things change massively and so quickly in the next two games.

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19 Feb 2019 08:23:37
I have been advocating that we keep him as well, but I honestly don't know what to think anymore.
Bringing on Zappacosta instead of CHO or Giroud yesterday, when we need to score two goals, is proof of how little grip Sarri has. I don't think I've ever seen a manager be that unambitious in a cup game, and honestly I don't really care if he stays or not. However, I do care about the players. I think yesterday, at least in the first half, they tried. Hazard took runs he hasn't taken before (at least I haven't noticed), but still I feel this will be the third manager sacked because of player power, and it's got to stop.

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19 Feb 2019 08:32:16
Most of this post is blindingly obvious but it’s all I’ve been told. So, as usual don’t shoot the messenger.

“The managers position is under constant review but IF and it’s a big IF, the board would be unlikely terminate his contract until after the Tottenham game”.

I did also ask about a DofF and was told “The process is reaching a conclusion”.

Sorry lads nothing earth shattering about any of that news. I personally believe, If Sarri is going to go before the end of the season it will be after this Sunday’s final.

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19 Feb 2019 08:48:42
i would say u are right when we are embarrassed by city in a cup final the inevitable will happen.

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19 Feb 2019 09:04:55
So, I guess Magic you want Sarri to stay because I can’t imagine you want us to lose on Sunday.

I think we will win on Sunday but I’m one of the few optimists in this site.

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19 Feb 2019 10:55:14
id like sarri sacked now because he's going to play the same team and the same tactics as he did the last time we played them and we will be embarrassed again no leaders no heart the club is in a bad place.

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19 Feb 2019 10:55:58
zappacosta come off it man he's a brutal player shouldn't be next or near our club.

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19 Feb 2019 13:46:51
Azpi was as poor yesterday. Maybe Sarri should go out guns blazing and play players that want a career at chelsea or atleast show that they can play. It's obvious the players ain't grasping his style of football. But with Sarri it will be the same old squad again.

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Review Of The Day 19th February 2019

19 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 19th February 2019

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19 Feb 2019 04:23:29
I'd actually play this team in the final. Won't happen but we need change.

4-2-3-1:

Kepa

Zappacosta Christensen Rudiger Emerson

Kante Ampadu

CHO Loftus-Cheek Hazard

Higuain.

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19 Feb 2019 07:45:55
Lol there’s more chance Eva carneiro returns as assistant manager to Jose than that lineup!

Not saying I’m against it though, can’t be any worse than what we have right now.

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19 Feb 2019 09:06:01
I would prefer Eva than Jose!

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19 Feb 2019 09:10:48
Sarri will say what’s the point of moving onto a plan B when we haven’t sorted out Plan A yet.

For what it’s worth. I would go 4-2-3-1 against City.

Kepa

Azpilicueta Rudiger Luiz Emerson

Kante Kovacic

Odoi RLC Hazard

Higuain

But it ain’t going to happen lads .

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19 Feb 2019 02:12:09
Sarri out and board restructure. Sick of it.

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19 Feb 2019 05:15:57
A lot of the players too aren't good enough too.

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19 Feb 2019 05:44:26
Marina out. Director of Football in. Sarri out unless he gives other players chances. Then about 15 players should be leaving who I can’t be bothered naming.

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19 Feb 2019 00:32:17
Didn’t even bother watching the game this morning at 5 am, find myself not caring as much when we play terribly like this. I can’t imagine how hard it is supporting an actual bad team lol.

Anyway the lack of long term planning and an actual DOF is affecting us. If the board sack sarri they’ve done an awful job.

Appointing him and expecting success is an absolute joke when we still have Jose players set out to play a 4231 counter. Expecting Marcos Alonso and Azpilicueta to be good fullbacks in this system is asking for trouble.

Either sarri needs to be flexible, or we need to actually back him and not expect top 4 this season. We need two new fullbacks, a right winger, a new centre back and another midfielder. I’m not talking about Drinkwater’s or Barkley’s either I’m talking actual improvements on the side instead of squad players.

Chilwell
Hysaj
Thiago Alacantra
Kovacic
Fekir
Higuain

Can be over the duration of two years but these are the types of players we need to be targeting, not discounted squad players who don’t improve the side.

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19 Feb 2019 02:19:51
Kovacic is overated and Hysaj is average. I’d be tempted to sell all four full backs. That’s Azpi, Alonso, Zappa and Emerson. Azpi isn’t suited to a back four no more so no point keeping him we need to be ruthless. Get Reece James back asap. I’d even bring Jay Da Silva in as back up left back he’ll probably do more than Emerson. A world class leader at CB (Koulibaly or Romagnoli) so Luiz and Cahill can go. Drinkwater, Baka, Barkley and Van Ginkel to be off loaded for CM. Bring in a number ten who can create and score (one of Fekir or Aouar. Give Hudson-Odoi his chance on the right and get rid of Willian and Pedro for Oulisic to come in. Morata, Batshuayi and Giroud should all be Permanently sold along with the likes of Moses and Kenedy. Then we need to target a striker who is up and coming preferably Jovic or Piatek.

My Incomings:

Jovic/ Piatek
Pepe (If Hazard leaves)
Fekir
Koulibaly
Ferland Mendy

^^ Quality over Quantity

Back From Loan:

James
Jay Da Silva

Out:

Morata
Giroud
Batshuayi
Willian
Pedro
Moses
Bakayoko
Barkley
Drinkwater
Luiz
Cahill
Azpi
Alonso
Zappacosta

Then the likes of players on loan who will never make it here like Baker, Baba, Kenedy, Kane, Kalas, Omeruo and Pasalic.

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19 Feb 2019 02:20:38
And as for Thiago he’s injured more than he plays them suggested signings are awful.

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19 Feb 2019 02:45:42
Well problem is we may be having a transfer ban on the way so i wouldn't be suprised if the Summer window is all we have to really overhaul this squad. It's why i was disappointed with our lack of bussiness in the January window. I expected to struggle this season but i didn't expect these players to be unable to show any signs of progression with Sarri's system and it just shows too many here aren't good enough. I agree not having a DOF is not helping us at all, it's clear the board are good at the bussiness side, it's maybe why we're soo good at selling players, but from a footballing perspective they struggle. For me next season the only players i want to stay here are Kepa, Emerson, Rudiger, Christensen, Ampadu, Jorginho, Kante, RLC, CHO, Hazard and Higuain. Promote Reece James to RB and try and get Chilwell, Fekir, Pepe, Malcom, Jovic and Romagnoli. Obviously this isn't FIFA so i don't expect these to happen but an overhaul with this squad is a must.

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19 Feb 2019 01:22:47
Kovacic has offered nothing really since coming and you want to sign him on a permanent deal?

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19 Feb 2019 03:58:37
WelshChels2, agree with all of that. Only issue is if the board can do all of that in one window (Personally i don't think they can) . Defensively is were we're at our weakest. Would love to see a Reece james, Christensen, Koulibaly or Romagnoli and Mendy defence. More pace, better offensive fullbacks, better players under pressure and a leader at the CB position.

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19 Feb 2019 08:50:14
chelsea nick i agree i think kovacic has been bang average he's not worth 20 million never mind what real will actually want for him he creates nothing he never scored wat does he actually do.

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