Chelsea Banter Archive July 17 2013

17 Jul 2013 22:46:12
Banter please eds

Looks like we have some depth midfield/attacking wise

If we were to sign Rooney and De Rossi

First Choice.

Rooney
Hazard Mata De Bruyne
Oscar De Rossi

Second Choice.

Lukaku
Schurrle piazon oscar
Ramies Van Ginkel

and BTW De Bruyne looking top top draw!
Jm10

Hey I was the original JM10

Errrr sorry to be rude. But no you weren't. and you know it

Eds can look up ip addresses

Jm10

I don't understand why people keep on insisting that Oscar will play in the pivot.

Theres no such position, Oscar is a deep playing midfielder best utilised in the centre where he will get chance to express himself. Don't know if you've ever played the sport but its common knowledge that the more space you have the better your chance becomes for picking out an exact pass, the sort of pass that leaves a striker with just the keeper to beat. If let's say Oscar was played wide or in attacking midfield he would be man marked by one or two opposing player making his talent harder to exploit and rendering his game ineffective. If you compare hazard or schurle to Oscar you can clearly see a different skill set, both have better agility and top speed and both hug the touch line with the ability to cut inside at speed not needing to get into shoulder to shoulder situations which would slow the play down greatly. In conclusion and I apologise for the long post but Oscar is a cm he is not that strong yet physically hence previous managers reluctance to use him deeper but I can almost bet on it that he will play in cm and will be given a free role and will be expected to tighten up defensively too, thanks for reading.
Danny

17 Jul 2013 20:03:59
Just read that we're set to sign Luiz Gustavo from Bayern for £16 million to replace Mikel as he's set to head to Turkey. Any possible truth in this one Ed's? I know Jose said Rooney was our one and only target but I'd personally prefer De Rossi to Luis Gustavo.

17 Jul 2013 19:40:14
Imagine this lads- Rooney up top with Hazard, Mata and De Bruyne behind him, with De Rossi and Oscar in the 'pivot'. Mouthwatering prospect

Please stop saying pivot, who the hell started saying pivot omg, it has and always be a centre midfield

Aron

17 Jul 2013 17:55:47
JM said Rooney is only Chelsea target this summer. He also said Chelsea won't place a bid for any other player.

JM will buy a DM plus Bruma

17 Jul 2013 17:29:31
Don't no why anyone wouldn't want Wayne Rooney he's not been happy at united for a couple of years so your not going to play your best sorry that's just the way it is no matter how much money your on. When he was on form which he will get back he ripped premiership to bits. I no everyone has there own opinion but don't come this time next year if he signs saying how great he's been because if he comes and hits form he will be the difference. My opinion

17 Jul 2013 15:15:37
Not surprising that Chelsea have denied the rumours saying we have offered 10 million for Rooney plus either Mata or Luiz. I mean it is nonsensical as A) Both Mata and Luiz are probably valued at a higher price currently than Rooney and certainly not 10 million less, and B) With United clearly searching for a creative midfielder, hence the attempts to sign Thiago and Fabregas, so surely Moyes would jump at the chance to sign Mata with an extra 10 million whilst offloading a player on huge wages who clearly wants to leave.

Personally I don't want Rooney as the 20-30 million plus 200k a week wages we would have to spend to aquire him, is really an amount I think should only be spent on a striker that is likely to return 20 goals+ most seasons but Rooney has only managed this twice in his career. Despite this, if anyone can motivate him it would be JM and the deal still represents better value than Cavani did so it wouldn't be the owrst thing if he did join.

17 Jul 2013 14:47:10
Wallace looks quality!

Agreed he looked excellent for his age in both defense and attack.

17 Jul 2013 13:58:20
not a chelsea fan, but I reckon this is what happened.

someone from Chelsea leaked the news to the media.

If the tv reported it, someone reliable was told.

All this does, is make united look crazy for not accepting the bid, then chelsea release statement saying it was only bid and not player.

game on. haha.

lakerville.

Your first sentence said it all, no need to comment on this page. Why wouldn't someone from leak it to show their fans a false reluctance to sell at any price.

17 Jul 2013 13:23:28
I think pb1089 dave and Jackson owe me an apology and yes it is accepted
Rooney will be a cfc player next year
I don't lie or put up pointless rumours as you suggested
I think the fact we are bidding proves i'm not lying
Gareth1973

I didn't call you a liar or anything mate. I was just surprised how it could be so conclusive as to say it's like 100% certain. Fair play to you Gareth as perhaps it will happen. I didn't mean to offend you and if I did I apologize. Hopefully mata and luiz aren't involved in any transfer.

Jackson

Only joking mate lol it is true thou you'll see

17 Jul 2013 17:47:02
If he signs I will apologise

PB1989

17 Jul 2013 12:23:35
lpool fan here be careful what u wish for is an old phrase but u need to be careful if jose seriously is thinking of 10 mill plus matta for shrek that is unreal mata has to be worth 35 mill honestly valuing a past it rooney at 45 mill nearly as bad as carroll at 35 mill, mata has been your best player by a mile think all the goings on at Madrid has left jose a little light headed or is he trying to show this time he doing it his way completely may seem a bit bizzare but this offer is beyond comprehention

17 Jul 2013 11:55:13
Man Utd fan here, a lot of rumours saying Mata plus cash for Rooney. If this is true has Jose gone mad? Mata IS a class act, Rooney WAS. I would love to see Mata at utd but I think Jose has lost it if he thinks that's a good deal.

17 Jul 2013 10:33:39
Man U have reportadly turned down £10 mill plus either Mata or Luiz.

I cannot believe that CFC would want to offload either of those players.
Our player of the year in both of the two years we pick up European trophies, not to mention one of the outstanding players in the prem. And Luiz who in my opinion was one of our best 3 players last season, a potential captain who seems to be improving almost by the month.
I have been very pleased with our work in the transfer window thus far but getting Rooney at the expense of either of those two is not good at all IMO, in fact loosing either would concern me going into the next season, I simply don't think we have players in the squad to replace what those two contribute on the pitch

What have the daily mail started now! must be a slow news day to churn out that nonsense

If chelsea offered mata with no money for Rooney they would bite our hands off. If mata was involved in anyway Man U would of had to offer the money, lazy journalists aren't even trying anymore AM

I also don't believe that offered Mata or Luiz. It's just press sensational BS.

17 Jul 2013 08:52:20
So Rooney being linked a lot with us, who would want Rooney as our striker this season.

I would but not if it means selling ANY of our players. well, may be Ba.
The only 2 players I believe are not in JM's plans are Mikel and Ba

17 Jul 2013 04:19:41
Hi Chelsea fans can anyone tell me kickoff time for today's match. Uk

2:30 Chelsea TV mate :)
EH17

2:00pm

16 Jul 2013 23:38:44
-ed heard anything else about de Rossi deal if there is one or Rooney many thanks

EH17 have your people in the know heard anything regarding Rooney

My opinion only di Rossi and Rooney squad sorted sell Ba Torres lukaku Rooney as strikers. No people are going to say Torres wages are high so will rooneys but just imagine if JM gets them all firing