Chelsea Banter Archive August 16 2012

 

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16 Aug 2012 20:06:45
anyone know what the "right to play" slogan was about last season and will it be used on the chelsea shirt this year?

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Racism

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Right to play is an orginisation linked with euafa to get rasisum out of football
I expect it will be used again has been for a few years but not always in the way it was last year
Carefree

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16 Aug 2012 19:56:05
If nothing happen in the next 2 or three days and there is on compromise on Porto's part or on Cavani's part then we have to try and sign Lorente as the second out and out striker.A great player will complement Torres and will be awesome upfront with Torres.We could then play the way city played 3-5-2.I am saying this because waiting to sign Cavani or Hulk till deadline day might cost us the league as waiting for Modric did last season.Lorente is a very very good striker as good as if not better than Cavani and he is available ,so why are we not going in for him?A fee of around 30 mill euros would be enough to secure his services.

roan

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The problem with llorente is he is far less versatile than either of cavani or hulk.

Tk

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Waiting for modric didnt cost us villa boas's s**t tactics did

curt

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Thts where your wrong curt, the players should of played for the fans. lamps throwing his toys out the pram. notice ramires & luiz loved AVB, but the old guard didnt. hes guna do well at spurs i know it. & if he does we knw lamps and co were complete pricks

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Yh but u also have to realise that avb ha very poor man management skills an that why most of the players didn't like him.

Blue con

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So the players decide themselves to play the defensive line half way in the oppositions half.. I'm with curt, Avb tried to much in his short time... A 3 year plan in 3 months, not good.
Marley

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^^ Surely you have to be kidding. Treatment of Alex and Anelka, no communication with players, Bosingwa left back, Meireles his love child,crap tactics, awful subs and a personality of a cabbage. Yep he is a excellent manager and it was all the players fault .. pfft

ShedLower

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Your formation has too many players in it and I stopped reading after that.

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Are you serious, the players did everything they could, the fact is avb got it all wrong from the tactics to man management, you cannot play a high line with a defender who likes to burst forward and another too slow to run from the half way to his own goal, you also can't leave out drogba and not tell him why, and he did this with everyone.

Trueblue012

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How does 3-5-2 have too many people in it?

Although I do agree we shouldn't just copy the formation because it's 'like city played'.

Roweycfc

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Sorry I thought it was 3-5-2-1, my bad x)

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16 Aug 2012 18:16:21
Quite funny watching some of us squabble over which player we want brought in EG Hulk and Cavani. Its like somebody buying me a Ferrari and i start moaning about how i dont like the colour.
Both bring different strenghts and we can debate about who would benefit us more, but bottom line is both are world class and we should just sit and appreciate if either 1 does arrive

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That would just be ungrateful to moan about the colour if someone brought you a ferrari

by squabbling do you mean doing exactly what you said we should and discuss who we want at the club because that is what everyone's doing noone is 'squabbling'

curt

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I was chuffed with marin, & really happy with hazard, & even more so with oscar, if we sign hulk ill be overwhelmed!

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Curt, he said we 'could' not we 'should'. There is a difference. What he's trying to say is he doesn't understand why it matters which one of the two is brought it. I for one disagree with what he said as I believe Hulk and Cavani's play styles to be completely different, and so I find it understandable that people have debates over which one they'd prefer to sign, although personally I'd be happy with either. However I don't believe he deserved your sarcastic response and definitely believe that you should understand what's being said before you try and belittle someone.

Ash

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It wasnt a sarcastic response it was pointing out that hes saying we can be haveing a debate about the 2 players which is whats been happening all along some people want hulk others want cavani

curt

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Yes but Squabbling and debating are completely different things.

Ash

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16 Aug 2012 17:51:46
Hey ED18 do you know if Marin will be fit enough to regain his position in the squad at the weekend against Wigan? Plus obviously you are not the manager but with your issues with Mikel, do you think with a fully fit squad Mikel won't be in RDM's first choice 11? {Ed018's Note - I have heard nothing on Marin. Maybe in the press conference RDM will say. Mikel is gonna play. I would think Essien and Mikel would probably rotate somewhat, with that said I'd expect Mikel to probably start against Wigan}

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16 Aug 2012 16:52:29
According to Azpilicuetta will be announced tomorrow.
I hope we can sign a top striker + Moses in the upcoming days

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16 Aug 2012 16:15:57
Anything about malouda & Benyoun leaving?

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16 Aug 2012 16:04:51
Always at ur best. is there goin to be any announcement of new signing dis weekend? thanks for ur time.
Ak {Ed002's Note - There is a press conference due on a different matter - but don't expect anything to be "announced" over the weekend.}

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16 Aug 2012 12:39:31
we all talk about bringing creativity int the midfield of chelsea for a long time now.....even after two creative players like mata and hazard we were still not able to do that,the reason simply being jon obi mikel.now don't get me wrong here, mikel is a very good player but his style of play is "anti-creative" and this is just the way it is.He pegs back the game to such an extent that the flair factor is nowhere to be seen...we need a bit of creativeness in the defensive mid too(just a little bit)...some one like lucas(liverpool) would be really a delight.....david luiz looks like the man for the job to me.any thoughts??

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Romeu looks perfectly suited to that role, he's a good passer of the ball and is great at reading the game, if he stays fit he should be able to nail down the position as his own

Trueblue012

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I think Romeu could do a job in that role.

Tk

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I agree with TK and Trueblue.

Ash

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16 Aug 2012 11:07:08
Hi Ed, what is the lastest in moses ternsfer? {Ed002's Note - It is in hand and will likely go through in the coming days.}

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16 Aug 2012 10:45:52
Ed what do you think chelsea need to be as strong as man utd and city for the title race? {Ed002's Note - More points than last year.}

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Haha you gotta love Ed002.

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16 Aug 2012 09:59:59
I am beginning to edge towards the opinion that Chelsea should drop any interest in both Hulk and Cavani. Porto are, as always, proving very difficult to deal with and Cavani's wage demands are, if true, just ridiculous! We shouldn't be held to ransom by either club or player in any transfer deal - something that I also feel is being done by Wigan in the Victor Moses transfer. A continual interest in these players will only lead to other clubs believing they can do the same.

We have had a good, progressive summer as far as our dealings in the transfer market this season adding depth and quality to areas that had been lacking in previous seasons. Lets make a stand against the stupid money these clubs and players want and tell them we are no longer interested, there is plenty of quality out there; Lewandowski, Llorente to name but two. As for Victor Moses…I'd rather bring Scott Sinclair back to the bridge…but would favour a physical central midfielder over both.

Surewould

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I believe Dortmund want stupid money for lewandovski. That being said its not the price Napoli and Porto are asking but he's not the player that cavani or hulk is either.

Tk

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16 Aug 2012 09:51:24
Do you expect any transfers to be done today from chelsea ed thanks {Ed002's Note - Not today.}

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16 Aug 2012 09:43:01
hi ed 002,why is it chelsea take so long to complete transfers? {Ed002's Note - Like Marin and Oscar you mean?}

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16 Aug 2012 15:04:26
Can we undo Barcelona to d signing of Arsenal's Alex Song? I think he's capable of replacing Essien, as that's one area we r yet to strengthen, as wit d striker's.

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Arsenal would never sell to us. {Ed002's Note - Ashley Cole.}

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That was a completely different situation {Ed002's Note - Tommy Baldwin? Tommy Docherty?}

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Well arsenal sold there best player to man united so why not song to Chelsea?

Blue con {Ed002's Note - Chelsea has no interest in Song.}

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I know we don't ed was just saying that arsenal would sell their players to us if we did make an acceptable offer.

Blue con

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16 Aug 2012 14:56:02
Hi ed, are Chelsea confident on signing a striker this summer? i know efforts are being made, but are they confident their efforts will be enough?

thank you {Ed002's Note - Efforts are being made.}

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16 Aug 2012 13:50:16
Hi ed

Was just wondering if you had time to share that story?

Thanks in advance
Blue Con {Ed002's Note - Have very little time today, next week will be better.

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16 Aug 2012 13:35:07
Hi Ed: always at ur best. any announcement for new signing befor dis weekend ?
cheers
Ak {Ed002's Note - Probably.}

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16 Aug 2012 13:05:02
ed, do you know the amount of chelsea tops with mikel on the back have been bought so far this season? if how far away from kezmans total?

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16 Aug 2012 13:45:07
If I was Roman I'd test Utd with a 30mill bid for hernandez


KevinCFC

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£30m are you joking? You would start at £15m if your lucky.

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30 mill behave urself

hes probably going arsenal anyway

curt

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8-10 mill at max.
roan

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If u think ur get henandez for 8-15mil then u know nufin about the game! 20million would be cheap

KevinCFC

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Oooppps didnt put my email but that post was mine

curt

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Take your own advice kevin

the only way hes worth more than 15 mill is at rival prices e.g city, chelsea, arsenal

curt

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What the hell are you on KevinCFC?? Are you joking me?

Chelsea Nick

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Hernandez scored over 20 goals in his first season in the premier league. He is worth more than 15 million

Trueblue012

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£15+mil for a fourth/third choice striker at best. Are you mad? I wonder how much you value say Cisse and Ba of Newcastle seeing as they have both got impressive records in previous years. If you look at Kalou's scoring record it is also pretty impressive but you have to consider that these fringe players are generally brought on when the team is in a comfortable position and therefore have a greater chance of scoring.

Rowan

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16 Aug 2012 13:26:05
Can anyone help me out please. I purchased the new home kit for my son with the number 10 mata printed on it. Should the name and number have been printed in gold as it was printed in white. Are the gold printed shirts only for champions league. Any help is much appreciated.

NWBLUE

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Nah mate letters and numbers are gold this year

curt

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Yes it should be in GOLD

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At least you got mata not mikel, mikel should be in moody gold

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I payed for the home kit with Hazard on the back but just got a bare shirt no name or number. Got Oscar on the third strip though and it was all well.

Sev

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At least yours has turned up in the correct size. I ordered a Champions of Europe printed shirt, Small mans... they sent a small womans top size 8-10!!

Be Thankfull the shirt fit ;P

scotty

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Maybe they thought well if he needs a top that small might aswel give him a womans :D

curt

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If its for the prem surely chelsea cant wear gold, as every club has to have the official premier league numbers etc...?

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In the prem they will use white name and number the gold is only to comemerate champions league and was only used for the pre season

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Yeah prem colours are white/black/blue/ or red on the back of shirts. Gold is the club's design for preseason and champions league

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I think portsmouth wore gold numbers/letters in the prem a couple years ago.

AK

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16 Aug 2012 13:03:17
Hey ed is Mata likley to start against wigan or will he be rested i no heplayed in the CS but he didnt get much of a rest so just wondering if you have a vague idea of what the starting 11 may be

BlueBen {Ed018's Note - I would expect Mata to start and for the lineup to be very similar to the City match}

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Mikel first name on the sheet no doubt

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16 Aug 2012 11:42:24
Heading to Wigan this weekend (although Ill be sitting in the cheap seats (the Wigan fans seats)...

Bit pessimistic though about our chances of controlling the game without an energetic midfielder in the middle to hassle and harry...

Hope Hazard has a good one and Torres is in confident form after a classy finish at the weekend...

And in an ideal world wouldnt it be good if we could eliminate one of their best players from facing us by finishing up the deal FFS...

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16 Aug 2012 11:07:52
who will be starting more mata or hazard, it's for fantasy football

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Id say Mata.

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Hang on, let me ask my friend RDM

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Both thats the reason they were both brought but if its for fantasy football i think throughout the season mata will have more of an impact because hazard needs to settle

curt

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I have both in my fantasy team

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I have this as my fantasy team

.................cech........................
mikel....mikel......mikel..........mikel
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......mikel.............mikel..............
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ramires...........mikel..............mikel.
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.................torres.........................

thanks
RDM

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I would of replaced ramires and torres with mikel mate

unstoppable

curt

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Yes curt, but i insist on having ramires on the right wing, and it was a tossup between mikel and torres for CF, i didnt want people to think i favour mikel all the time
RDM

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Ah my mistake there i see your point roberto

curt

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Absolute banter sesh. you lads are on the ball tonight.

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The formations wrong, only Torres should be in the opposition's half.

Rowan

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16 Aug 2012 09:33:28
rowey you were right the arsenal page makes for a great read

they hope his ankles get 'done' in (bit chavvy) and there latest and my personal favourite there going to use the money from persie to buy ozil now modric is at madrid apparently ozil isnt needed

ozil is worth more than 25 mill and is 10 times the player modric is

curt

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I aint sayin we should get him or saying some Bs, but Ozil would be Quality at the Bridge

JMJW

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Oh yer totally agree with you mate id love ozil at the bridge

just thought it was funny that the gooners even think that madrid would sell him for 25 mill and that modric will take his place

curt

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Ozil isnt needed because modric is there?have the never heard of a squad of players, or do they just see the starting 11, also modric is a deep lying play maker probably to play beside alonso, and ozil plays a similar role to that of mata...

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16 Aug 2012 09:23:35
RVP gets £225k per week on a four-year deal. Total package will cost Man Utd £71m. United fans officially can not say s**t about City or CFC

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Many teams have tried to buy the prem, thing is only arsenal, man u, man c and chelsea have done it successfully

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Wasn't Fergie moaning about our hazard deal? Then he spends crazy money on a 29 yr old... Ummmm maybe his age is starting to catch up ;)
Marley

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^^

And Blackburn

And yeah, but then he's always been a hypocrite.

Roweycfc

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Yeah forgot blackburn oops, arsenal and loserpool have all tried to buy the league and failed

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^^^^^^^ arsenal went unbeaten ........

curt

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16 Aug 2012 08:26:25
Nando's quotes after Spains game yesterday.

"The season was not for me, it was for others.
"Chelsea wins the FA Cup but I don't play
the semi-final nor the final. I didn't taste anything.
"I feel I participated a bit more in the
Champions League but even so it was not
the Champions League I wanted to win, not like that. I want to win another Champions League and in a different way."
"The fans helped me a lot — and you don't understand why.
"You come from outside and you have played well in this league and, with the Spanish mentality, the first who should have turned against you are the fans. You are not living up to expectations but
they still support you. These people are special. "At times I was thinking, 'I will sit here on the bench, I won't make any noise, I don't even want to play.' But they are demanding that you jump on the pitch and play. They lifted my spirits so many
times. Not even my team-mates succeeded in doing that in this way. Whatever I do from now on will be for the fans. "That is why I want to win another Champions League. For them."

"I lived things that had not happened to me before. A new manager came in and he was hardly counting on you and what you did in training didn't count either.
"You can't do anything more but you're not playing. People encourage you whether you play or not but I didn't know what to do.
"I counted on the support of team-mates that are on the bench, who don't let themselves sink and always give an example.
"Paulo Ferreira, the substitute keepers, the youngsters whose progression has stopped. It helped me to see the panorama sitting on the last step."

Well thought I would share with you guys, and after reading this I think its safe to say he got his head screwed on properly and we can be a little more confident that EL NiNo would be fback to his best.

ELI

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It shows he has ambition to win more and win better, good lad

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It looks like hes having a dig at chelsea unless you look into it properly and realise he notices he had some bad form for most of last season and like you say shows he wants to win trophies for our club with big contributions like the drog

curt

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16 Aug 2012 07:42:36
Am so worried bout our season just due to the fact I can see us not gettin in another striker or a much needed defensive midfielder! Anyone else worried bout the striker situation


KevinCFC

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Not yet, A Torres injury would screw us but the eds have repeatedly sed were looking for a striker so just relax until 1st sept...
Marley

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Agreed marley we will sign a striker before deadline day

curt

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16 Aug 2012 05:22:29
Hey Ed, I keep seeing you mention to people to not worry about the FFP rules coming into effect. Does this mean that you are of the opinion that it just won't end up happening? Or do you have knowledge of Chelsea having some sort of plan to deal with that before it becomes an issue?

Thanks

Ash {Ed002's Note - I have not got the time to go in to it right now, but it is not a matter of "loopholes."}

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12 months ago i got slaughtered on here by ed02 for saying there will be many loopholes in the FFP {Ed002's Note - Quite rightly so. And it made you a better person.}

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Alright, thanks for the insight Ed.

Ash

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Yes, it made me realise there are more loopholes than i first thought and FFP is unenforcable

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16 Aug 2012 04:23:25
Anyone seen the Arsenal page? It's hilarious how badly they're taking the RVP transfer (although understandable)

Roweycfc

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It is understandable with him. I think they went over board with nasri as he didnt owe them s**t but what they have done for rvp and for him to do that is unforgivable. oh well haha

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16 Aug 2012 00:47:28
So ED002 are Chelsea still now not worried that we may enter the season with 2 poor strikers? why are we not looking at other options except cavani and Hulk?? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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Poor? Torres will be fine

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15 aug 2012 23:35:02
hello ed. do you know when oscar wil come to england? im really looking forward to see him play, i guess hes gonna take over lampards place. {Ed018's Note - i would think he should arrive in the next few days. he may not take part against Wigan but i'd think he will be anxious to get started with the club. Only RDM knows how he will be used in the side so i'm not gonna speculate}

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16 Aug 2012 00:16:30
With the bad news tonight of RVP joining Utd, feel like our season is finished before it's started, just can't see us now competing for the league.

Pinky {Ed018's Note - jeez Pinky, throwing in the towel before it begins. just relax a bit}

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Come on ED018 we all know we wont sign a striker as it may hurt Torres confidence and then when he fails to score like he has for 2 years we will be fighting it out to finish in the top 4 like last year. {Ed018's Note - I believe Chelsea will bring in another striker. Look at it realisticly, if Torres or Sturridge go down with a lengthy injury we would be in serious trouble. I don't think they will allow it to get to that. Also with Sturridge he doesn't need to just be Torres's backup, he can also play on the right. Any way you look at it, another forward is needed}

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Dont understand why people rate RVP so much. He has had one good season and two mediocre. For a player with only a year left on his contract £24mil is a lot and i don't see how he will fit into united's system. The Rooney Welbeck partnership was good last year and they have a number of back ups. I doesn't seem good business to me, Surely Fergie needs a replacement for Scholes more than he needs another striker.

Rowan

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Ha another poor attemp of a hoax! Ed ban these fools

Pinky {Ed002's Note - You don't include anytghing in the email fields - so we have no idea who is posting. Anyone caught pretending to be another poster will get banned of course.}

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4 year deal setting united back £71 mil 29 years old 1 stand out season i can see rvp being another berbatov,and cos 1 players moved doent affect us at all!

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Next season: RVP makes his debut, scores a magical goal in the opening mins, then collapses in a heap after enthusiastic celebrations with Rooney, this injury plagues him for the rest of this ManUtd career, only managing to be a bit part player before a move to the MLS sees his Prem dream over. Sad but inevitable.

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Yes, but remember rude van nisteyroy? he was supposed to be finished as a player before he joined man u with knee problems and look what happened

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