Chelsea Banter Archive August 15 2012

15 Aug 2012 23:36:23
Only Chelsea would let Anelka Drogba Kalou Lakaku ( loan) all strikers go and not have 1 already lined up instead now we have 1 striker in Torres and 1 wannabee striker in Sturrigde we are so thin in that department how could we not have a replacement lined up? can we really go into the season with 2 very average striker? yet still we are looking at cavani are we really going to sign him? No we should have learnt our lesson with Pastore Sanchez that italian clubs are very hard to deal with,Why on earth do we not look to buy Llorente who is available for 26-28 Mil? is anyone else very underwhelmed by this transfer window we bought a squad player in Marin a good propect in Hazard another good prospect in oscar only Hazard will be a regular starter the other 2 will start as squad players and hopefully grow into the team we need 4 players RB CM RW STR

BLUEBLOOD {Ed018's Note - I don't think there is anyway possible Chelsea can go into the season with 2 strikers}

Wannabe striker ?? no sturridge IS a striker

curt

Torres average! Have a word with urself!
Blue aero

So what else is Torres? is he 1 of the top 10 in the world? does he ever win us games?

BLUEBLOOD

Time is ticking weve got 1 and a half strikers and a make shift rb!
Itl be deadline day n well get our pants pulled down and pay loads of money for them,not that i care how much they r just get em in!!

Why so negative? there are clearly deals in the pipeline for Azpicuelta and Moses, as well as the possibility of deals for Hulk and Cavani. We have already spent £50+mil this window, you thought people would respect the club for doing so. It is impractical to spend huge amounts each window and our squad doesn't need too many additions, we have a decent first XI backed up by an ok squad and excellent youth prospects. Before we add to our central midfielders we need to move on older players and I would expect for other signings to occur Benayoun, Malouda and Merieles would need to move away, as otherwise our wages would be too high and players would get too little game time. Have faith in the Board they know what they are doing are lot more than the average fan, its why they are paid excessive amounts to do their job.

Rowan

Blueblood - Look at his goal in the semi's against Barca, I think That goal helped, not to mention he won the corner that scored the goal in the Final, Some people, have you even watched a Chelsea game last season?

JMJW

I dont care how much we pay for players, its romans money, we pay enough at the turnsyles and for the pies and moychandoyse

Blueblood it was common knowledge a few seasons ago david villa and torres were the 2 best strikers in the world

if both are on form it would still be that way

curt

Really curt, the best in the world? The big Drog outclassed both in my opinion

Rowan

15 Aug 2012 22:18:41
Hey ed, with man utd having brought RVP now and having Rooney and welback, man city having aguero, tevez, bolitelli and zecko, and we have Torres an sturridge in attack, do you think we will be pushing harder for cavani or hulk now? {Ed002's Note - It makes no difference.}

15 Aug 2012 22:20:37
Think the divide between the top four will greater then ever this year, with us, man u and arsenal all investing alot. Think Liverpool will overtake sphurs but finish 5th
Dan73

I think spurs and arsenal will be close with rvp leaving but I expect Newcastle to regress.

Tk

Take away van persies goals last year arsenal would of ended up like 13th

Its been proven over the years that when a team loses their best player the do better, look at everton, lost rooney and had best season, the rule doesnt apply for arsenal though, they lost fabregas and slid down, haha

15 Aug 2012 21:55:50
Did anyone else watch the Belgium Vs Netherlands game? KDB looked very good kind of wish we didnt loan him out, but hopefully he will play week in week out at bremen and come back even better...

Agreed, i was hoping a good pre season would see him stay and compete.

15 Aug 2012 21:32:58
No1 off this page cares about rvp if u wanna talk about him there is a man u page i suggest yes use it

15 Aug 2012 21:22:44
Ed, what's the problem with spending over the odds who's capable of changing a game within the blink of an eye (Hulk) ?

Hulk is a 30mil pound player and thats that hes not that good proven him self only in a 2team poor league

Although he may be in a less prestigious league, he has proven himself in international games. The highest Chelsea should go is 35 mil, and thats a huge gamble.

To be honest I would love to be at the bridge and hulk bang one in from 30 yards top corner 100 mph

15 Aug 2012 18:28:47
The stage that the two major rumours: Hulk and Cavani; are at are different and similar in some ways.

If we were to sign these two our squad would be overcrowded and we would have many great players on high wages just sitting on the bench like at Manchester City which is a waste in so many ways. So its either one or the other, and to be honest I don't mind which one we get if any. They both have significant strengths and some weaknesses but both are worthy candidates to becoming a 'replacement' for Drogba.

The problem which is stalling both of these deals as ever is money. Despite having Abramvomich on board it is still a great concern.

Here is my overview of the stages we are at with these two players.

-Cavani- An out and out striker of whom has performed immensly for current club Napoli. Napoli in the early stages of the transfer period were not willing to let him go at any price, within reason, due to the departure of Lavezzi to PSG. However, recentley this site was bustling with excitement of the news that Napoli were willing to let him go at the price we had wanted which was £35million and below. We had then agreed a price of £35million with Napoli. There have been great rumours about Meireles going in a cash-plus-player deal but I am skeptical about this being a 'media make up', none-the-less that is still a possibility. The stalling point is the club-to-player negotiations with Cavani wanting wages of £150,000 a week. This may have been accepted earlier in the transfer period but with other transfers coming in on high wages the squad would be ever so expensive to maintain. Naturally Chelsea would like it to come down and make a compromise.

-Hulk- This deal has gone on for weeks and weeks and we haven't made much progress at all. Hulk had repeatedly expressed his interest in making a move to either Spain or Italy. Porto though are reluctant to sell him for under about £40million which Chelsea think is way to much. I do think though that once we agree a deal with porto then talks with the player will be a breeze due to his interest in leaving. I think we would have to make a compromise deal with Hulk of which being that we will meet the £38million but lower his wages significantly. In terms of where he will play in the team I think he would be the better option out of him and Cavani as he could play on the right-wing. This would mean Torres would be the main striker but if he doesn't do well then arguably he could drop back to right wing as well and do a swap with Hulk. This would have the massive advantage of having these two big big players on at the same time. Whereas if we went with Cavani either him or Torres would be on the bench at any given time due to the inability to have two strikers due to the loss of defensive effect. This I feel, is a waste of talent and as I have said I don't want us create the situation City have which is having unbelievably good talent just sitting on the bench.

Out of the two I would have Hulk, despite him being more expensive by £5million or so he would fit better into the team.


-----------------------Cech--------------------------Ivanovic-------Terry--------Luiz--------Cole------------------Ramires----------Lampard------------------Hulk------------Oscar-----------Hazard----------------------------Torres-----------------------
(With Hulk and Torres swapping now and again depending on goal-scoring etc, form).

I am not too fussy, they are world-class players and both would be heavily welcomed by me and I am sure all of you lot.

Please leave your opinions on the matter, especially your thoughts on the line-up I have given with hulk in it and the idea of him and Torres swapping.

JMWilo54

Mata?! Arguably our best player last year.

Mata?

Luke

15 Aug 2012 20:16:13
If we cant lure azpilicueta then would abate be a realisitic target as he looks solid defencively and going foward as well as having champions league and international experiance?

15 Aug 2012 18:05:52
I think 'Geezer' can do a Yaya Toure in our midfield. At least, it's worth a try...

Bas!cs.

15 Aug 2012 17:51:42
Waste of money if true i dont rate him that highly if i was to take any wigan player i would take james mccarthy just my opinion

Hmm...decent player.
roan

15 Aug 2012 17:06:45
puzzled do you know how boring it is seeing you slag off torres every day on here

your in no position to slag any striker off your team spent that 50 mill we paid on andy carroll............

curt

Totally agree with you curt neverwonprempool love paying over the top fees for average players ie carroll, henderson, downing, chelsea reject borini and joe allen, who's next i ask. cfcforever.

Neverwonprempool, that is such a reach

Trueblue012

I think borini will be a gd signing for liverrubbishe and he's not really a Chelsea reject. Didn't he turn down a new contract with us due to lack of 1st team opportunities?

I hope he is rubbish for them though.

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Curt - are we drifting apart? Is there someone else? Be straight with me curt

Puzzled

Chelsea released borini on a free after his loan stint with buck rogers at swansea.

15 Aug 2012 15:39:58
IBTimes reported that Chelsea have made a €50m offer for Hulk, is there any truth Ed? Thanks ! {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what they have reported.}

15 Aug 2012 15:03:36
It seems to me we are going to have a very busy last day of the transfer window, as clubs are holding out for max price and CFC are not prepared to pay inflated prices. I for one am looking forward to it.

FT9

You mean after the Torres £50m ?

Puzzled

Yer like the 35mill of that 50mill your lot spent on andy carroll ........

who's the loser

curt

15 Aug 2012 15:01:09
who do all ye think should start cb this season with terry... luiz or cahill?

Cahill. Natural english cohesion and he's less of a liability

Yer luiz is a major liability at the heart of our defence

curt

In terry's position David luiz is a rock but alongside him we are too slow at getting back when the ball is given away

Trueblue012

15 Aug 2012 14:45:05
Looks like Lamps will be finishing his career with us. Fantastic news, he can be our Scholes

Looks like mikel will be too

Nooooooooooo!!!

Thats to Mikel not Lamps

Leave it out mate, mikel is a Chelsea player and people jumping all over him after a few bad performances isn't going to help very much

Trueblue012

Trueblue have you been living in a box mikel has been dreadful since he come to chelsea apart from 3 games

curt

People are forgetting Mikel was a massive part in our european success, ok he's poor when we are trying to play quick attacking football but lay off him

So was bosingwa and kalou! chelsea only give 1 year extensions to over 30s, this rule shouldnt change for lampard. so ican see lampard not being happy with that and moving to MLS. even if he does will they still offer him 130k or what ever he is on?

15 Aug 2012 14:11:44
will the 30m?days be over for clubs when FFP comes in? {Ed002's Note - I would not worry about FFP just yet.}

15 Aug 2012 12:00:51
we could make luiz an out and out def mid, and get godin to beef up the defence

15 Aug 2012 11:56:10
Ed Is there any intrest in the young Belgium
Dennis Praet?
Thnks gd work! :)

15 Aug 2012 11:01:44
Looks like we are going to kick-off the season with just two strikers, one of whom, Sturridge, is injured. We have 'lost' four strikers this year, Annelka, Drogba, Kalou and now Lukaku, and with only a few days to go until our first game, they have still not been replaced. We have signed great creativity in midfield to provide the ammo for the strikers but with a long season ahead and extra trophies up for grabs, it seems we have been a little sluggish in addressing the goalscoring options. Ironically, I thought the Hazard deal would drag on until the window closed, such was the interest in him, but we did great business in getting that deal done early. Seems other targets (Oscar excepted) have proved elusive in terms of getting them in early enough to be integrated into the squad before the season starts. Torres...no pressure son!

BluesBruv

That's alright we're just play without a striker like barca did, at least then mata, hazard, Marin, Oscar, ramires can all play together

We are not Barcelona,and not getting another striker is mad

15 Aug 2012 10:51:21
Hi ed it's Alrite people saying that we're not going to get held to ransom but we have to replace Drogba and thats not going to be cheap or easy I like shurrle but he's not Going to replace Drogba were I think cavani will most defo so I say pull out all the stops for him thanks

Im sorry but hes inreplaceable

15 Aug 2012 10:04:13
lukaku has had a dig at chelsea. he was the one saying he will wait in the reserves untill chelsea thinks he is ready. now he acts like a spoilt KID. think how josh feels romelu. or how bertrand felt for the last 4 years. personally 18 million for him was a very big risk. i even think feruz and bamford will be better anyway. anyway rant over. i just dont fadden with me. BLUEBOY1

Why start a 'rant' over a future star on Chelsea. This is why I won't post til after transfer window, support your club. Mikel while not my favourite player played last year the week his dad was kidnapped. He loves the club. I love the club. Melbourne CFC

The same lukaku who said because he didn't play in champ league as wasn't selected didn't join in celebrations or touch trophy as he didn't deserve to.. Then Pictures of him celebrating and possing for pictures holding the trophy. He is young and I think he won't make it at us, not cos of his talent but attitude at not playing much yet, hope not buy he need to grow up. Anderlect are little different to Chelsea

He was banging in goals for anderlechts first team since he was 16. It has been so f*cking negative on here last 2 months. Thank god for ed018 true blue attitude. We are the champions on Europe, you do all realise that right? Melbourne CFC

15 Aug 2012 08:27:17
Hey Ed,
Will Bertrand be given more playing time than he was given last year? And at what position seeing that in the Champions League final he played as a midfielder and in the Community Shield too.

He was signed by chelsea as a winger from gillingham i think. we converted him to a left back. BLUEBOY1

15 Aug 2012 00:38:41
Hey eds just been looking around on the other rumours sites out of curiosity to what teams are looking at what players, and on the newcastle site, people seem to believe Tiote is chelsea bound, im presuming its bs, just thought i would ask..?

15 Aug 2012 01:36:13
Anyone In Japan interested in tickets for the club world cup can get them through the FIFA website with visa exclusive presale. Unfortunately the final tickets are sold out right now. More on sale in September.....got my tix yesterday :D