Chelsea Banter Archive November 14 2014

 

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14 Nov 2014 22:08:21
So glad we don't have many English players atm. It's now up to 6? players who've been injured during on England duty during the last 2 days.

A slight side note but staying on the English topic, over the last few days everyone's been mentioning who they'd like to bring in e.g. Reus, Varane, Pogba, Imbula, Cuadrado etc. But the thing we lack most at this point in time is HG players.

We currently have only 3 first team HG players in Terry, Cahill and Fabregas. With Terry likely retiring in the next year or two we're going to be woefully short of HG players.

Quite a few of us have mentioned Barkley or Sterling but we're well covered in the AM/winger positions and moves for either would only make sense if we sell players.
Ideally we'd be looking for an English striker/CB/LB/backup GK or possibly CM. So any ideas guys?

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I think Pogba is homegrown, and Schneiderlin is as well. They're not English, but homegrown is the priority here.
It's true that we don't have a lot of English players anymore, but what English players could realistically come in and improve our team much? I can't think of a lof of guys. Clyne looks to be a fantastic full back, and perhaps he could be worthy of replacing Ivanovic in time. I don't think Sterling would improve us a lot. Maybe Barkley.
Our best bet would perhaps be to promote from within.

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Tbh English players are not very good and crazily overrated.

The only thing i'd do, is sell cech and Schwarzer, and get Butland or Darlow for backup keeper to Courtois, as well as bringing in stones and another English fullback like Targett of Southampton.

Id also like a bid for Southampton striker Gallagher, as another option.

Any interest in any of them players Ed002? Appreciate it as always.

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{Ed002's Note - Why not use the search engine?}

Because Gallagher has never been brought up before, either have some of the others, I'll check though, thanks

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15 Nov 2014 12:28:09
Darlow's signed for newcastle he's just on loan at forest. Butland or Marshall for me.

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Aha some good shouts. I hadn't necessarily meant that we should look at just English players but they are the most likely to be HG.
I'd thought of Clyne Jackson but I was thinking that Azpi would revert back to RB.
Promoting from within would help but even our brightest prospects are still at least a couple years away from being ready.
Aron, the likes of Targett and Gallagher are good prospects but I'd rather we bought players that were more developed or promote from within.

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Don't have many promising left backs like targett, but bamford can certainly do the job.

I was more talking about who we could get if we wanted to buy homegrown players, we can certainly bring throhgh homegrown players like Ake, Bamford, and Christensen.

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The Scottish left back at hull, Robertson
Gunna be an top top player. Probs get him for 10-15mil

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I don't understand why we bought luis and sent bertrand out on loan - we have to give our own home-grown players a chance. no more buying unless the player is exceptional - reus yes, barkley yes, varane yes - no one else - use our own youngsters!

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17 Nov 2014 05:00:35
I'm sorry Mrs Costa but you wouldn't mention Bertrand in the same breath as Luis. Yes Bertrand played the Champions League final(out of position as a defending left half) but we had no Hazard then and quite simply he is not Chelsea quality and never will be.

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Kiwi, just as Matic wasn't 'Chelsea quality' when we sold him or Sturridge! We have to give the younger players a long run in the 1st team to see if they are up to it.

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CFC Matt, good shout, Robertson is a great player

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18 Nov 2014 05:06:22
I understand your point of view Mrs Costa but I doubt Matic would have realised his potential had he stayed at Chelsea. Sturridge was always class but young and greedy and self centred whilst with us. He was second fiddle to world class last year in Suarez, I'll be interested to see how he plays when back from injury with no Suarez. And our "young" players will never get an extended run in the 1st team as almost every match has so much riding on it at the level we are at apart from League Cup, soft FA Cup etc

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Nathaniel Clyne would be my first choice. Ivanovich should become our fourth CD. Perhaps Ivanovich and Terry could be our first choice CDs.
Barkley would be our potentially best buy for the future.

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14 Nov 2014 21:46:54
Having seen Juan Cuadrado play for Columbia tonight, sincerely feel he is no upgrade to Willian on the right of Chelsea midfield. We should be going all out for REUS.pls go for him Jose and the Board .

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While I didn't see him play tonight, I don't think you should form an opinion about him based on 1 game.
I like Willian, though if we want a real winger on the right Cuadrado is a more natural fit.

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We don't need Cuardado. We already made mistake bringing Willian for such a large amount of money.
We need left footed winger. We already have to many right footed wingers.

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Bro ^, Caudradro is an absolutely amazing player, why can't we have another right footed winger, Caudradro is a more natural winger and will hug the touch line with an end product and will have the work ethic provided :)

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Sure in that case we have to sell one winger so pick Hazard,Willian, Schurrle.

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Aron, let me be more precise. Jose Mourinho doesn't use wingers he is using right and left midfielder. Mourinho expects serious defensive approach from wing midfielders, so Hazard, Willian, Schurrle,Salah and Ramires are midfielders not strikers. If you pay attention you can notice that in the big games his right midfielder choice is Ramires. On the other hand Schurrle is not midfielder by vocation-he is striker (winger striker or secondary striker-that is his role german national team).

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Fair enough, who do you want to come in then?

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Marco Reus, Willian to leave. Also Salah to leave if possible Townsend HG to come instead. Clyne would be perfect buy HG and we can let Ivanovic to play CD.
More or less we already have amazing team. We don't have to buy for buying sake. But Reus is Reus.

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14 Nov 2014 14:09:23
hi eds

with the great news of us making a profit does that include the sales of luiz and lukaku etc etc

and I know your bat this question away but in regards of finanical power are chelsea heading in the right way in competing with the big boys i.e sign ronaldo if he was up for sale

keep safe

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{Ed002's Note - It includes all sales in June. I have no idea what the second question is about.}

It means could we sign a top player on high wage demands like a ronaldo

thank you for your time

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Pinky I believe you don't really mean what you've said.

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17 Nov 2014 05:18:37
Pinky you're unbelievable, I'm sure you only post to wind up sometimes. We will never buy a Ronaldo/Bale or their like, that's not how our club operates now.

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Real Madrid income 597m Euros Chelsea income 400m Euros. That's 200m Euros difference or 160m£. There is no way that we can spend 89-90or100m£ for the player unless we sell someone like Eden Hazard which is most probably not going to happen.

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14 Nov 2014 09:44:20
how on earth is chelsea not interested in Reus? for the price being quoted of 20m pounds, it's a steal.also hope the rumour of Varane possibly being available for around 20m pounds too is not just papers teasing us. Chelsea please get in Reus, Varane and Imbula. let Salah, shurller(permit spelling) go and give a Thorgan, Piazon or Traore a spot next season. Chelsea are the new INVISIBLES.

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The Invisibles you say? Well, I guess being invisible would indeed help us to win games :) We'd be unstoppable haha!
For what it's worth, IMO there's no way Varane is available for around that price quoted. He just signed a new contract. We'd be lucky to get him at all, for whatever price

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How about the Unbleatables!

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How about .

The Blues?

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14 Nov 2014 08:17:27
Ed would chelsea be interested in Bale if he were to become available?

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

No way can chelsea afford Bale (£90m?) and stay within eufa financial rules. We have just declared £320m annual income - over a 1/3rd of our income on bale (price + wages) - not going to happen.

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14 Nov 2014 14:38:08
The only way it would happen if Ramires and hazard went the other way.

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Hazard and Bale in the same team yes please, Bale for Hazard no. I mean would rather get Reus. Definitely prefer Hazard and Reus to just Bale in all honesty.

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Why could we not afford it?

We made a profit this year of £20m. We also have a new lucrative kit deal coming into play for the start of next season possibly with Turkish Airlines. We will be looking to offload some of our young talent again and also sell some of our 1st squad.

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I expect Chelsea could break a financially viable deal for Bale. There's a lot more involved than just the 'supposed' transfer figure we'd have to stump up.

Whether it could / would happen is another question entirely.

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