Chelsea Banter Archive March 12 2013

12 Mar 2013 21:48:16
Really would like to see draxler at Chelsea! He's superb!

He deserved a goal against Galatasaray tonight he carried schalke fantastic performance. The lad has everything Germany needed worry when the likes of Schweinsteiger retires with Draxler there. I think that we only need another midfielder though and that would be a Fellaini/Fernando type to give us a physical edge with the likes of Mata/Hazard/Oscar playing

WelshBlueBen

A couple of good games and suddenly he's a world beater. typical

A couple of good games? He has been playing well for the best part of 18 months mate. Just because you don't follow other leagues, doesn't mean others don't.

12 Mar 2013 19:02:42
On loan players had a good week end. Van aanholt, debruyne, lukaku a had man of the match. Kakuta and kalas were excellent. Kalas had sickness though at half time. Mceachran has been ill. Piazon got an assist but sometimes, apparently looked a bit indecisive. Read and heard some good stuff though :)

I'm sure most of you already know this but for those that don't the excellent weaintgotnohistory site does a weekly round up of all loaned players.
Kp.

13 Mar 2013 12:09:46
The loan roundup they do is fantastic, although I fear it's a little robotic and most comments are based on highlights. I guess you can't really expect them to watch every game though. Unfortunately a lot of articles written are also wild speculation linked to twitter. Although they point this out in most, none of the editors have a clue about the inner workings of Chelsea, which is why this site absolutely smashes it, when it comes to factual information. If it wasn't for the abuse from annoymous trolls Ed002 gets, I'm sure, as in the past, we would be privy to a lot more info.

The knowledge of the posters on WAGNH is a whole nother topic. Some of them make curt look like a genius. I think the majority of that site is made up of the new age 'bandwagon' supporters. People with no affiliation to the club, that don't know the history and what it means to support the club, but want to support a successful team that in recent times has bought superstars consistently.

The articles are great but it's painful to read the comments. Not to mention over the past 4 months it has gotten pretty boring reading articles that just lay into Rafa day after day. I dislike the bloke as much as the next person, but it's site like those that lead to the misconception that the whole of the home support is up in arms and not supporting the team.

12 Mar 2013 13:51:48
i just read that we have only kept 6 clean sheets in the last 20 games and 2 of them was against lower league teams, do you think this hilights the need for new defensive signings as its clearly no were near good enough?

Get rid of Cech and use Courtois

Put Torres in goal, he might save more than he scores.

12 Mar 2013 12:12:56
were would you say we are atm with the strengh of the spine compared to others.
Arsenal. szczesny----------vermaelen------wilshere--giroud
man utd. de gea -----vidic------carrick-------van persie
man city. hart------ kompany -----toure----- aguero
spurs. loris-------vertonghen------dembele-----bale #new 10 role
liverpool--reina----agger----gerrard---------suarez------
everton ---- howard---jagielka-------fellani--------jelavovic----
newcastle-----krul-------colocini-------cabaye-------cisse------

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If our spine is Cech, Luiz, Mata and Ba I think that only City and United look better. Spurs spine would be up there, but Bale would be where Dembele is, and they have no striker of worth, so they would be slightly worse.

Thats why I made the point of bale playing his new role second striker as that's his new position
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Yeah but he isn't a second striker mate, he plays behind the striker. In the mata role.

On this seasons form I'd Cech over all of the other goalkeepers other than Lloris - who I think has been outstanding since coming into the Spurs team.

In my opinion Kompany is the best CB in Europe, Vermaelen and Vidic haven't looked great this season, I'd take what we have over them. Vertonghen is better than what whe have too (what are they putting in the water in Belgium). What we have is better then Agger, Jagielka and Colochini.

Wilshire is class but not as good as Mata, I'd judge Oscar compared to him next season. Wouldn't swap any of our midfield for Gerrard (but would have two years ago), Carrick, Dembele, or Cabaye - Toure and Fellaini would get in our team.

I would take all of the strikers, except Jelavic and Cisse, over what we have.

The only player we have that comes close to Bale is Hazard, right now Bale is the better player but once again its his first PL season - compare the two next season.

Or the rooney role mate and he started for wales in october as a forward / 2nd striker / number 10 type playe or what ever you want to call it I say tomato and you say tomato ( antagonistic ) lol

Rooney does not play as the second striker mate. The no 10 role is not a second striker. They play behind the striker. Go on the united page and read some posts, he has been a midfielder this year, according to all of their fans. I'm not trying to antagonize you, I'm pointing out Bale can not be counted as a striker. If he can, then so can Mata as he is the no10. Would you call Mata a second striker or a midfielder?

Agree Tyler, Lloris has been immense. I'd take Ba over Giroud. Only better in that list IMO are Suarez, RVP and Aguero. i'd take Luiz over Vertonghan as Dawson has been their best CB this year on a consistent basis. Kompany is clearly the best CB in the league.

Yaya for me would be the only one I'd say would push Mata for best midfielder in the league. Fellani is not at the level yet IMO.

When spurs played inter they played 442 bale and defoe and they talked about avb praising him for playing bale up top, when spurs didint have the ball they set up as 2 banks of 4 and bale and defoe ready to counter the pundits talked about bale playing as a Striker and said that's were they see him from now on, they showed his last 4 seasons goal wise I can't really remember I think 14 his best last season as a winger, and again praising avb for palying him up top, and for chelsea mata is not a forward but I seen him play up top for valencia more than once when they played 433 and they interchanged so in parts of games he was playin as the highest player through the middle aka as striker / forward/ number 9 / false number 9/free attacking role, and its worth you looking on the net for bales touches in the inter game as 70 od percent were in the box/ edge of the box very simlar to defoes, but defoe went wide a lot and bale went as the spear head so make of it what you want, ps don't take it personal this propper banter not some rubbish about should we sign falcao or not
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Mate I don't take it personally at all. When they played Inter, they were up against a weak, weak team and wanted to exploit them. Although Bale was often found in a 442 it was more of a 4411. Bale was not deployed as a left forward. He may of found himself there at times but he was played behind Defoe most of the game. Pundits are the most unreliable people in the world, most know, or Atleast seem to know nothing.

When they played Liverpool Bale played behind the striker in a Mata esque no. 10 role. He was kept quiet by Lucas almost all game, so I don't see how they think Bale will only be played up top. To me that's rubbish. He is a winger, who has in recent weeks been played central. Happy to agree to disagree mate.

Bale and Rooney are as much Midfielders as Cristiano Ronaldo or Messi are. Call them whatever you want, but they are the focal points of their attack. (Well in certain situations they support the striker, or whatever) Positions are unimportant. But Spurs go as far as Bale takes them. So much can be said about Ronaldo and Messi.

JG

Come off it JG. Messi plays a false nine role and is their primary 'striker'. Ronaldo is a class above the other two and plays very much as a winger. He cuts in a lot and scores an incredible amount of goals but Benzema and Higuan are their strikers.

Look at how man goals Bale scores from inside the box. Often if he does score from inside the box, it's after a 40 yard run. He may be the vocal point of their attacks but he doesn't play upfront. His class is in his ability to run past players.

Seriously Bale and Mata are nowhere near the players of Ronaldo and Messi. Bale is comparable to the way Ronaldo plays but once again he isn't a striker.