Chelsea Banter Archive June 12 2011

 

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12 Jun 2011 22:39:51
Chelsea to do a straight swap with immediate affect, John Terry and fernando Torres for Sergio Ramon and Marcelo

You heard it here first guys..

Breaking news: You are deluded.

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What a load of rubbish chelsea arent selling terry thats mad and they wont sell toress either cus he cost them 50m they wont sell him as much as I want toress to leave he wont cus of that 50m he cost the club

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LMFAO thats the most load of rubbish I have ever heard chelsea wont sell terry not a chance and they wont sell torres cus he just cost the club 50M thats a load of bollox that entire swap is bollox and certainly wont happen no chance

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12 Jun 2011 14:21:11
INS


Sneider 50m

Neymar 40m

WDW 15 m

Nasri 30 m

OUT

Benayoun 8 m

Turnbull .5m
Hilario

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£135M paid out for transfers.

£8.5M in sales.

£126.5M in the red...

Keep your day job - you are NO businessman.

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Why is everyone rating Sneijder at 50M??? US dollars maybe. I've seen £35M quoted, but 50? Get real...

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Especially when inter only paid Madrid
£15m for him.he's a good player but would not pay more than £30m for a 27 year old, I would rather pay £50m for fabregas

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Hilario has also just signed a new contract and mate 50m for sneidjer get real !!!

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12 Jun 2011 14:17:30
----WDW-----Luiz------------Terry-----------Cole

--------mcheachren---------lampard-------/

Nasri------------sneider-----------Neymar---


----------------Torres/Aguero--------------

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We need replacement for Lampard not Essien or JOM.

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Yes because tbh lampard is one of our worst player. There is a reason why Mourinhoim. prefers the scousers' stevie g to

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Mourinho prefers Gerrard because hi is 2 years younger but his career is ending in year or two max.

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Gerrard is finished, it's all downhill now.
Jose wouldn't sign him now.
He would rather get a 16 year old.
So would gerrard.

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I u wanna start next season without a number one then go ahead

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12 Jun 2011 12:29:35
what is this new rule fifa are going to introduce about signing players ed? {Ed002's Note - The Financial Fair Play rules.}

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11 Jun 2011 22:26:42
ed if drogba is set to leave us for spurs i would assume chelsea have agreed a deal for a replacement striker the wonder is who as sturridge isnt at drogba level yet needs a few seasons more and with neymar playing all the big clubs off against each other and aguero looking set for real madrid maybe higuain which would free up a place on madrids strikers for aguero
i see inter have said Wesley Sneijder can leave for 33m which i think he is so perfect for the chelsea team or paying 40m for pastore which is a big gamble on a young midfielder
and why are the chelsea transfer targets being drawn out like episodes of lost with the first friendly on july the 9th against vitesse closing in
cmon roman if you ever needed to break the bank for a player so bad Wesley Sneijder is that player

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Everyone knows what the problem is with chelsea roman you keep sacking managers and that aint good for a team like chelsea it takes time effort money look at the squad now roman prove me wrong I dare you cus you wont win I have been to every chelsea match since I was 5 years old home and away our defense is good but they need back up and the only place they can get that in from a midfielder and the only one is either lamps or essien doing that now keep the defense we have and keep essien and lamps the leading goalscorer we had anelka keep him and drogba as that name does scare any defense he maybe old but other teams fear him sell the likes of torress he was a hugh watse of 50 million so not worth it hes giving chelsea a bad name I dont know how many chances lamps and the rest of the squad set him up on goal and he missed and the only goal he did score was thanks to the state of the pitch it was pure jammy sell him and get kaka or modric bring someone in thats young but also has experience like them they would link up well with essien and lamps and modric also know how to defend aswell there great players and worth thinking about now sell the like of malouda and kalou there old and they havent done much for che4lsea the last 2 seasons come to think of it sell tht rameries guy god he really was a jynx when he started playing we either lost or drew but the last number of months I have to say he has shown alot and might yet turn out to be a good player for chelsea sell torress malouda kalou ramires and bosingwa maybe and get new talent in it really is something to think long and hard about

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You are a mug!

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How can someone be a mug for putting his point across the only thing i disagree on is ramires i think he will be a huge talent and torress has no more excuses pre season friendlys and this season he has to deliver the first name on the chelsea team sheet has to be essien he is the engine of the team and losing him in any swap deals would be a very huge loss if you want to see a player run his self into the ground every game for the team essien is that player

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Look what I have said above is the truth I dont give a s**t what you call me I do believe ramires will turn out to be good but he needs more games put him on loan and see how he does look and sturrage he went on loan and look at him now banging goals in left right and centre let him stay on loan for one more season and bring sturrage back that way he gets games experience and he will defo be a big name for chelsea when he returns I bet try that with ramires but him on loan and see if he can do what sturrage is doing now just sell that bollox torress and get a proper big name like villa doubt he will move though but a name that is big and knows how to play get player that can work together and not by themselves and I hope we get hiddink back he was a good manager for chelsea he needs more then a season to prove himself get him back and then decide on what players are needed and who must go

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Maybe we should get some fans who can use punctuation, create proper sentences and spell properly.

Ramires is a player who I rate very highly and I am sure he will be playing week in, week out for Chelsea next season. We should not loan him out.

Also saying that we need to sell Torres is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard! A player doesn't lose their talent overnight, and a couple of years ago I'm sure you were saying he was one of the best strikers in the world. For me, the reason is that he hasn't had a proper break from football in the last few years (due to the World Cup, etc...). All he needs is a break and I'm sure he will come good next season, but we will see. He will not be sold.

TB

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I am not saying sell him I am saying Put him on Loan next season he good but needs experience the squad is old right now look at drogba hes old but yet that name scares any defense and seeing as he just got married I dont see him leaving when it was roman that paid for the wedding to start with if roman wanted him gone he sure as hell wouldnt pay for the wedding look at sturrage now hes very very good atm hes young and is scoring goals and has improved so so much cant wait to see him next season if he comes back now look at him before he went on loan he rarely got on and he had no experience do that for ramires he will defo be comming back to chelsea if he went on loan and would get loads of experience and games to improve as for Torres remember what he was like for liverpool last season before he came to chelsea he rarely scored and the longer it took him the worse it got for him and got frustrated at himself and now look at him when he joined chelsea everyone tried to set him up for a goal and the only goal he did get was thanks to the pitch it was a right state and the celebration was mental it was as if he scored the winner in a champions league final it was crazy I thought that would have got him back but it looks like as if it didnt as he didnt score any other goal for chelsea and it took him 16 matches to score the one goal he did get chelsea need to get some young players with talent like neymar hes meant to be like the new wonderkid from brazil loan ramires out and buy neymar or kaka or even modric all them players have loads of experience and are great players to sign and by the end of next season who knows some of the older players like kalou or malouda will begone or retired even giving ramires a great chance to prove himself when he does come back and will most defo be on the starting eleven but chelsea need a manager first before any decision can happen I think Hiddink is the best suited so far TB

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Dude wth? Are you trying to be William Faulkner with that stream of consciousness style narrative? I lost interest in what you had to say after reading one sentence (well, actually it's just one long run on sentence so I suppose that I gave up after one "line").

Seriously, punctuation is your friend. Learn it, use it, and maybe people will be able to make their way through your long winded posts!

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I called you a mug because you said ramires was a jynx and we should sell him, he was our best player in the second half of the season, hes fast, can tackle, can pass and get past people and the only reason we lost or drew was because we had no creativity with no lampard. for me the midfield should remain the same except sneijder in place of benayoun, also torres should not be sold, admittedly he did have a fair few chances, but there was a lot of pressure on him to score, with the right supply i.e sneijder, pastore, modric. and a pre season break, he will come good

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He was a jynx when he first started playing for chelsea. Lampard is still good and he comes back and defends half the time. ramires is the only one who doesnt defend he sits in midfield and waits for the ball and runs like mad so he does he needs more experience if he want to continue playing for me I dont see him getting on the starting eleven next season if Chelsea do go all out and buy new players. chelsea need Modric kaka sneijder there all brillant players at there clubs. read what I have said above in my last post and you ill see I said to put him on loan not sell him let some of the currennt squad members chelsea have play cus the chances there going to get to play after next season is slim there old and wont be on the team in the next 2 season maybe three if they show there up for it. I call it as I see it btw I do believe ramires was a jyn and let me state that again WAS a jynx hes not now but could do with some more experience.

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Ramires should not go out on loan. Did you not watch the second half of the season? The guy played very well. He will not go on loan next season and will play week in, week out for Chelsea. Frank Lampard will be the midfielder that I can see taking on a more bit part role next season (like the role Paul Scholes played at United for a while), as much as it pains me to say as he has been a great servant to the club.

Torres will be good with a pre season break and a creative midfielder behind him. At the current moment in time, he does not suit our style of play, but with the addition of a creative midfielder (and maybe a couple of wingers) I can see him getting the supply he needs to bang in the goals for us next year.

TB

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What players would you sell and who would you think of buying keep in mind of the age of the squad and also remember sturrage would be back from loan from bolton and he has already proven himself to play. name the starting eleven chelsea should have next season and yes I did watch the second half of the season I was there for them. TB

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Sell malouda, anelka, bosingwa, turnbull.
buy sneijder, lukaku, van der wiel, de bruyne, courtois, neymar.
starting XI
GK cech
DF ivanovic alex terry cole
MF ramires essien sneijder
FWD sturridge torres neymar

subs drogba van der wiel lukaku kakuta mikel luiz courtois

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Starting XI
Cech
Right back Luiz Terry Cole
Ramires Essien A creative midfielder
Winger Torres Winger

The right back I would like to be either Ivanovic or Van der Wiel.

The creative midfielder I would like to see Pastore / Modric / Sneijder.

The Wingers/Wide Forwards I would like to see 2 of Mata/Neymar/Sturridge/De Bruyne

It is a completely unrealistic 11 but it is what I would like to see.

Realistically, I'm not going to try and predict who Chelsea are going to buy because I don't think even Chelsea know at the moment. Priority for me would be to buy a creative midfielder and a right attacker, but I do not know if this is what Chelsea are after.

I think Ivanovic/Alex will be sold (not out of out choice by the club but out of choice by the player). I also think Anelka and Zhirkov will leave. Other than that I think it will be a case of what offers are received for what players.

TB

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David Luiz a sub? You are truly a moran.

Regardless, learn his name. Luiz is his middle name, not sir name. It's like calling President Roosevelt "Delano". {Ed002's Note - Or simply "Del" as I knew him.}

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Are you mad that would cost chelsea around like 80m you wna to sell anelka our leading top goal scorer last season he was good I rate him as one of our best players sneijder and neymar thats a fortune we wont get them both as sneijder claimed he is not moving ans is staying put so thats a no and same for neymar his agent will only let him move to real madrid but thats can be turned around though. back 4 is grand yes midfield no and strikers is a maybe yes on sturrage and torress. I am saying yes to toress starting cus he wont leave after coeting chelsea 50m but I dont see and way that neymar moving just yet as for the bench you made drogba yes vdw no idea who he is or lukaku kakuta maybe and mikel and luis yes though that wont happen. you want to sell four players that will only sell for around 40m and thats being generous seeing as malouda is too old. I really dont see that happening for hem signings it aint going to happen.


this will be the team I think for next season

cech
inavonic alex/luis terry cole
kaka essien lampard
sturrage torres drogba

subs anelka mikel luis bosingwa david luis yury Zhirhkov

on loan ramires only to gain experience thats why I say that

sell malouda kalou jack cork Jaoco sala Benayoun and ferreira

players to buy sneijder kaka or modric Neymar is a good signing doubt we can get him as his agent claims he will only move to madrid . and that will only cost at most.



note I only said kaka in the starting eleven as he is the most likely person chelsea can get as as I have stated neymar aint going to move as will sneijder

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The no-punctuation guy is off his rocker

ZOLA

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Sorry forget to mention it will only cost 41m for neymar and sneijder is 30m

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So your saying the only player Chelsea are going to sign will be kaka?! I would put my house on that not being the case, we will sign 2 or 3 players at least.

As for Anelka, he may have been our top scorer last season but then Chelsea's top goal scorer would normally have more than 16 goals in all competitions! He is also 32 and I feel he may make the move to America while he still has a couple of years left in him. Torres and Drogba are both better strikers than him, and I would rather have the youth of Sturridge as our 3rd Striker, instead of a 32 year old.

TB

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Chelsea will sign two maybe three players put I dont think chelsea will go all out on the spending though.

the list you said had four players on it that would even be 30m

the signings you want like modric neymar and vdw that would cost 41M for neymar 30m for sneijder and around 15-20m for vdw that is 90M you think chelsea are going to sing all them no chance thats triple what chelsea would sell

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To the dude that called me a moron for having LUIZ on the bench, if you think he is better than alex, you are the moron, im not saying he isn't good but he is too rash, think back to the penalty against fulham. alex is assured and very good in the air

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Wow, so David caused a penalty kick and should be benched for the rest of his Chelsea career. Talk about a knee jerk reaction (jerk). Good thing that a cracked nut like you isn't our manager or Carvalho would have never played again.

Alex makes quite a few mistakes himself. As does JT. Most of Alex's miraculous lunging tackles are brought on by him getting burned and having to save his own ass. None of our centerbacks are beyond reproach, so don't even try to convince anyone that David should be the only one punished. Besides, Alex is a walking injury.

Regardless, you are the only moron at this site. So go back to Vitalfootball Chelsea like a good little glory hunter.

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Well, I'm confused.

On one hand the sensible chap above signs his posts "TB".

But I noticed that "Grammar teachers nightmare" signed his posts "TB" a few times as well.

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But notice that the "Grammar teachers nightmare" puts it at the end of the paragraph, whereas I leave a clear line between the end paragraph and my signature. I have no idea why he started doing it.

And to the person who can't spell or make sentences that said it would cost a fortune to buy all them players. If you go back and look at my Chelsea XI, I clearly state 'it is a completely unrealistic XI but it is what I would like to see.' So therefore I was not saying that that is the team Chelsea will field next season, it's only the team I would love for us to have next season.

Also, i'm not saying that it is going to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Chelsea spent around £90 million this summer.

TB

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11 Jun 2011 20:07:51
ED,

CAM: Modric, Pastore, Neymar, Sneider, Pjanic ?

Striker: Lukau, Aguero, recent news Tevez ?

Wingers: Mata, De Bruyne, Willian ?

Defenders: VD Weil, Subotic, Godin ?

Who are the possibilities and seriously monitored ??
As the time passes, more teams draw their concerns as that happening with Neymar and now Pastore.
Lastly, we require a Right Defense for sure.
But do you think we require a C. Defense? We already have FOUR of them. NO-ONE has the profile of sitting on the BENCH for long.
as Kakuta and Sturrige will come, we need to be focussed and selective I suppose.

Your thoughts ED? {Ed001's Note - 4 central defenders? There is only really Luiz and Terry, Ivanovic has been consistently poor when played there and Alex is unhappy at being a back up. Personally I would play Alex ahead of Terry, I rate Alex as a better player.}

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12 Jun 2011 03:46:08
It's driving me absolutely mad they're going to sign Kevin de Bruyne ahead of a genuine Lampard replacement, he's good but when there are guys like Alan Dzagoev out there (even Odil Ahmedov) I can't understand signing de Bruyne. Of the young Belgians, as there are three really great mids I'd have ahead of de Bruyne, Axel Witsel, Steven Defour and Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe, Defour is apparently set to leave Standard Leige this summer, it's down to Chelsea, Man U and Man City for him (and we're going to put ourselves out of the race by signing de Bruyne?! its madness).

As for defensive mids, we've got the great Essien, the best player in the latter part of the season Ramires and the good early last season but subsequently poor Mikel. Moussa Sissoko, Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe and Josip Ilicic are the guys who could really strengthen that department.

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Here, you forgot this part from the same tripe you posted yesterday:

"11 Jun 2011 03:53:53
If you'd prefer de Bruyne, hit the affirmative, if you'd prefer Steven Defour (whose much better) hit the negative."

Lame. Do you really think that you're going to get some of us to change our opinion of your drivel one day later? Good luck - still disagree.

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12 Jun 2011 02:04:21
You said dont worry about neymars comments does that mean you think he will probably sign for us ?

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Who are you talking to?

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Ed002 said not to worry about neymar apparently saying that he doesnt want leave, and then he said that does want to leave. {Ed002's Note - Right, so don't hang off every word you see attributed to the player.}

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12 Jun 2011 01:43:48
Who can say Neymar will adapt to EPL? Everyone saw what happend to Robinho.
Jesus, Drogba needed two years to adapt to EPL and came from League 1.

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12 Jun 2011 01:13:30
Was just wandering if you think that abramovich has already agreed to sign certain players, but is awaiting the appointment of a manager in order to make the signings public.

Because lets face it, if he publicised the signings without a manager it will be extremely obvious that he runs the footballing side of the club. By the way we will sign neymar, lukaku, de bryne, modric and a winger which i think could be sanchez but doubtful

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