Chelsea Banter Archive August 12 2015

 

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12 Aug 2015 23:06:09
Ed hope ali is well, thanks always for all your quality info! I know people ask you always about transfers but is I have some contacts also in London and a friend of mine who works closely with the medical team! Is Mourniho that naive that he would jeopardize the health of our players to get rid of the best Dr we have had in ages! I am a Physio myself and a PT and it's our job to be on top of our clients/athletes as its our best interests to make sure they don't jeapordize our people from getting hurt! Number 2 the referee called for the medical staff and that's why they want! I have had so much respect for Jose Mourinho and even when he went overboard with his ways of coaching or decisions I have supported him! his actions of discrimination against a woman who was only doing their job is unacceptable and it makes not only Chelsea look bad, the owner look bad, and himself look worse! I feel this incident can really hurt us as a team and it makes everyone look as though we are racist and discriminatory towards women! Football is a sport we all love and winning is for sure important but at what cost!

On a side note it has been said many times In the last few days that we may let Zouma go out on loan if anything ge should replace Cahill who to me is the reason Courtouis isn't playing Sunday and in my mind the weakness in our makeup! I really believe that defense is definitely a reason teams win championships but it's time for us to regroup and selling lending Zouma is and could cost us the season especially how well he played last season

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{Ed018's Note - I've paid very little attention to this issue so far. I've been super busy. To me it just all seems strange}

13 Aug 2015 05:40:59
Stop making an issue of this because she is a woman. If she were a guy will you take it this serious? The woman seems to have an attitude and the club has a right to demote whoever they want to from their employees. You seem to have overlook her post on facebook, why did she do that for God's sake? We all need to be objective and stop looking at it from a sex point of view and focus on her conduct as an employee.

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13 Aug 2015 06:55:25
Perfectly put Dastanj. Its the social justice warriors trying to be white knights saving a woman for discrimination. When in reality, as Ed001 said, if all these fake blokes didn't want to bed her, they wouldn't care less.

Its a non issue. The club is bigger than any one person, and most certainly bigger than our doctor. She is replacable. Jose is not. One runs the team, the other works for the one running the team. The PC gang can continue saying the regurgitated bs that's pushed on us about right and wrong, or we can think for ourselves, be objective, and move on.

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13 Aug 2015 06:57:27
And if you reall think this may make Roman look bad, Jets, I suggest reading up on his history.

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13 Aug 2015 07:15:52
It's only because she is attractive. If she looked like Matron from the Carry On films no one would give a monkeys!

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13 Aug 2015 07:16:18
Just because a woman is involved that means it's discrimination? No, no it's not. She just happened to be involved. John Fearn (spelling is probably off) is also rumoured to not be allowed to attend the game on Sunday. Is that discrimination against a man? No, it's not. The club probably don't think their performance is up to standard and they perhaps altered their roles. That's all there's to it. It's not discrimination. Otherwise nothing bad can ever be said about a woman. And that's just not true. Her gender has nothing to do with it.

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13 Aug 2015 07:35:39
The worst part is Eva isn't the only member of the team being banned, a male doctor has also been banned from pitch side but he has been completely ignored

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13 Aug 2015 12:05:46
Ignore the papers, we should be discussing Manchester City and how we are going gain three valuable points not worrying about internal politics at the club. It is what it is and the papers will milk it for ever but trust me if it was Joe Dope and not Eva Earneiro NOT a sole would be interested whatsoever.
Is Ramires going? (Hope so), is Stones joining? (Unlikely just yet), will we resign Torres? (Oops that one slipped in); let's get back to abusing each other about football.

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{Ed018's Note - I agree. I could care less about this doctor situation right now. There is a huge match this weekend that they need to come away with some points from}

12 Aug 2015 13:37:37
Any truth in Ramires leaving and Van Der Wiel possibly coming in also Ed?

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12 Aug 2015 16:21:19
I thought we wanted to shore up the RB spot, not make it less defensively sound! I'd say its a safe bet that we have zero interest in Van Der Weil mate

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12 Aug 2015 15:02:53
It baffles me why we're not interested in Pedro. He's a quality winger who brings goals to any side. He's what we need. I'd sell Cuadrado and Moses to sign him.

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12 Aug 2015 16:29:07
I think he'd prefer United over us anyway, mate. They'd probably pay more and I think he'd get more playing time there.

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12 Aug 2015 18:03:52
Yeah I see what you mean mate. But not often proven wingers come available

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12 Aug 2015 21:48:31
Yeah he's good. But Willian, cuadrado and Moses is a bit much on one wing already. And to be fair a decent lot of them.

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12 Aug 2015 14:12:08
Does anyone else think having a right footed RB out of position at LB and RB who can't cross is mainly the reason we're not playing well going forward. When Rahman joins which seems inevitable i'd like to see us try Azpi back at RB and Rahman LB against Palace at home to give us that balance I think we're lacking. That why I really think Willian can improve his attacking game more instead of bailing Ivanovic out all the time.

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12 Aug 2015 14:43:53
Yes of course. Azpilicueta is actually a great attacking right back. Time to let him off his lead a bit!!

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12 Aug 2015 15:30:45
I'd love to see a back four of Azpi, Stones, Terry and Rahman.

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12 Aug 2015 15:41:10
The problem with our style of play, and the way our fullbacks can impact it negatively, is that they aren’t able to attack in a positive manor. When we attack it is often, due to our style of play, a counter attack - because of our attacking players all in essence being “number 10’s” these counter attacks are often very narrow; when this is the case you’d want your fullbacks to push up and supply width. When Azpilicueta gets forward in support of them he has to take a couple of touches, often cutting back and slowing the play down, before crossing or passing the ball. When Ivanovic gets forward he, well he is probably one of the worst offensive fullbacks in the league - he just can’t cross a ball. Moving Azpilicueta to RB and, if he’s good enough, starting Rahman should help with these problems. Solving this issue is more important than getting a new winger or midfielder.

I think we’re looking at Ivanovic’s (who has been a great, great servant for the club) last season at Chelsea. I see John Stones, a CB who can play RB, as more of a replacement for him than Terry.

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12 Aug 2015 16:07:27
Great post J. Although I hope you don't mean Stones at RB. I'd like to see Stones come in now and partner JT with hopefully Azpi and Rahman full backs. Ivanovic would be a great squad rotation player along with Cahill. Bit harsh on Zouma as he's been linked with a loan to Roma today. I'd like to see him go on loan at Everton for this season as part of the Stones deal then come back when Ivanovic leaves/Terry retires.

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12 Aug 2015 17:56:23
Steady lads, that great defence we had last year hasn't suddenly fallen apart. Yes, we have to start 'preparing' for the future but a new left back first and foremost and time to accept how Mourinho wants him to play. As excited as some are about Rahman, if goes racing up the pitch to hammer crosses in and then neglects his main duty, defending, then he will be in big trouble so Azi will stay where he is possibly for the time being. Yes, Ivanovic got rinsed on Saturday but that doesn't mean it will happen every week so cut him a little slack and I am sure he knew it was a poor performance. If Rahman proves his worth and Azi goes over to the right we then have a rotational option with Ivanovic, Zouma, Cahill and Terry in the centre which in another season or two will possibly see two of those being fazed out and there is still the possibility of Stones joining. I would not like to see wholesale change for changes sake

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12 Aug 2015 18:00:44
No mate I fully see Stones as a CB who can, only if the need requires it, deputise at RB. But the fact he covers that right hand side of the defence highlights him as a natural squad replacement for Ivanovic rather than Terry - the press are just obsessed with us replacing Terry!

Zouma going on loan somewhere after the (potential) signing of Stones makes a lot of sense - Roma or Everton, I wouldn't mind; if he gets a full season under his belt we'll be stronger going forward.

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12 Aug 2015 18:57:39
J: I am thinking around Stones not joining. I also doubt Zouma will go on loan. Stones does join and I could see Ivanovic or Cahill going. I don't think Terry is an obsession but they are being realists, he's 35 in December (7th if you want to send him a card) and the best in the league managing a defence but attacking pace is getting better and better and there is only so much natural instincts will cover.

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12 Aug 2015 21:09:19
Frensham - I don't think buying a LB and CB is wholesale changes but we have to realistically think about Terry and Ivanovic leaving after this year. I recognise the press are realists with regards to Terry's age but we have to be realists about Ivanovic's age too (32, next Feb, 22nd in case you're baking a cake 😀). He has lost some pace and, for me, has never been positionally sound. I see Stones as a more realistic squad replacement for Ivanovic and think next summer could prove to be a difficult bidding war for him - I see it as an important signing this year.mif he does join Zouma going on loan makes a ton of sense , Cahill or Ivanovic leaving permanently makes little sense.

Sorting out the defence as discussed will, once again in my opinion, make us more defensively sound, but also make us better going forward

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12 Aug 2015 21:50:51
Start o last season our lb and rb were great ivanovic scoring and attacking. We've carried on this season like the end of last. Too cautious. But my problem even when we cross the ball we have no 1 in the box.

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13 Aug 2015 07:19:00
J: I don't think we are a million miles apart in thought process, I am not convinced we will sign Stones before January so it is what we do now. Not sure where the Zouma loan rumour started but I just cannot see it. I did send Ivanovic a gateaux in the hope he found PSG attractive but he ate it, stayed and it slowed him down! The leagues best defence will be changing in the next twelve months I am sure but as I said it has not suddenly deteriorated to the stage there should be panic; several games like Swansea and Mourinho will do something. Blueboy1's comment makes a lot of sense. Since Drogba's demise after the Champion's League we have not had a target man good in the air.

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