Chelsea Banter Archive January 11 2019

 

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11 Jan 2019 21:16:14
I fear that this question would be best aimed at ed002 as (s) he seems to have good knowledge of the inner workings of a football club. No offence to the other eds, you may know more than I'm giving you credit for.

Reading the rumours about the alleged proposal that Barcelona have made for Willian and the player that could potentially be used as a makeweight, I was wondering if factors such as age, potential and future resale value of players have any bearing on the overall worth of a club? If we needed a loan for a new stadium, would the players, and these various factors, be seen as assets that would increase or decrease the amount we could borrow? If you have a team of 30 year olds that play at the same professional level and achieve identical results to a team of 21 year olds, surely the younger team is a better option to back for a big loan?

I see the for and against selling Willian argument from both sides as he's been a loyal servant with a decent workrate but surely this is the last (and best) chance we would get (if the rumours are true, of course) of ever getting any considerable amount of money for him.

Any financiers in our ranks care to tackle this one?

CS.

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{Ed002's Note - The players are not fixed assets and do not impact the value of the club from a financial perspective.}

11 Jan 2019 21:46:58
That's interesting and quite surprising.
thanks for the quick response.
You are my cyber hero and I get butterflies every time I see your name pop up on the Chelsea page.
True story.

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12 Jan 2019 07:47:38
OMG Ceser, he's like, such a babe. Totally heart him.

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12 Jan 2019 09:12:43
I'm in finance. Would've been surprised if players were included as fixed assets.

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11 Jan 2019 20:41:44
Nicolas Pepe is a player who is impressing very much for Lille. He is the one I wanted for RW instead of Pulisic but it doesn't matter he's signed now. Perhaps if worst comes to worst and Hazard leaves we should target him. It's be great to have a fast left footed right winger again.

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11 Jan 2019 22:55:56
I’d personally like another winger/ wide forward and move on Pedro and Willian. Hazard Callum Hudson Odoi Pulisic and Pepe/ Loranzo/ Werner/.

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12 Jan 2019 11:51:39
4 wingers and cho might as well leave.

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11 Jan 2019 19:14:53
Fabergas gone sad to see him go as he was a great performer for us i guess it means we have a replacement ready to come.

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11 Jan 2019 17:53:39
Cesc Fàbregas unreal player, wish we'd signed him few years previously, I'll be checking out Monaco hoping he does well,

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11 Jan 2019 18:26:22
the slower pace of the french league shouod suit him to the ground.

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11 Jan 2019 17:38:31
I think Michy would do well under Sarri. Good player in and around box n teams do sit v us, also note I said willian would shine u see Sarri so not the best educated.

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11 Jan 2019 19:33:16
not sure man he's far too lazy as has a horrible first touch his movement is poor aswell.

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11 Jan 2019 16:06:05
Thanks for everything Cesc,

You will always be welcome back at the Bridge.

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11 Jan 2019 18:26:39
genious of a player pity the legs went so early.

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11 Jan 2019 19:35:27
Coming and going early Magic, it’s an age thing!

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12 Jan 2019 09:08:10
haha yeah true.

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11 Jan 2019 15:04:08
Like I said, I wouldn't be heartbroken if Willian left. Maybe if Barcelona included Coutinho in the deal, we'd have an premier league proven replacement for Fabregas all while offloading an older player with 18 months left on his contract. I'd love to see him work in our midfield. Give Pedro and CHO a run in the team with RLC as third choice if need be. Remember that we have Pulisic coming in the summer as well.

Yes, I understand that this isn't going to happen due to his large fee from last year. but it's fun to dream (:

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11 Jan 2019 15:49:05
Also how id coutihno could be counted as a replacement for fabregas?

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11 Jan 2019 13:43:05
Very early into Sarri’s stint but what are everyone’s top Chelsea managers since 2004 ranked? These are mine

1. Mourinho
2. ancelotti
3. Conte
4. Sarri
5. Hiddink
6. Di Matteo
7. Grant
8. Benítez
9. Villas-Boas
10. Scolari.

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11 Jan 2019 15:49:49
1. Sarri
2 to 10: others.

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11 Jan 2019 16:38:48
Di Matteo wins the champions league and is 6th behind Hiddink and Sarri? That alone puts him top 3 despite league performance.

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11 Jan 2019 16:45:56
Di Matteo has got to be second for me gave us what we all thought we’d never have.

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11 Jan 2019 20:04:57
Standard, that list has just put into focus how, on occasions, bonkers our club has been!

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11 Jan 2019 21:43:41
Do Matteo up there at number 2.

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12 Jan 2019 00:40:50
The reason Di mittaeo was so far down for me lads was his second season in charge .

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11 Jan 2019 12:17:39
Eds
Have you any info on the possibility of the club getting a transfer ban this summer?
From what I can glean we are almost certain to get a 2 or 3 window ban.
Thanks
T.

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{Ed001's Note - the club has yet to be charged with anything.}

11 Jan 2019 08:51:09
Genuine question here, has Ed002 lost their contacts at Chelsea and that’s why they cannot provide anything on incomings? Because I can’t for a second believe that it’s down to abuse alone, as I’ve read loads on other pages and they still get updates. Like I said genuine question and not trying to be offensive or anything. Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - no he has not. You might not believe it but you haven't a clue what comes in and gets deleted. He regularly stops providing updates on other sites as well, but Chelsea has been the worst for abuse sadly. There are a whole trope of people who never post any other time other than to jump on and abuse his posts.}

11 Jan 2019 09:21:26
Ahh fair enough, I suppose that because we don’t get to see it, we don’t get a real view of the crap and abuse. It’s a bloody big shame that it tends to be a few that spoil it for others. Thanks for the reply tho. 👍🏼.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know why it is the Chelsea site that attracts them, we do get the odd one on other sites, but for some reason they swarm on here in large proportions. Sometimes it feels like it is deliberate from a rival site, but I have no idea what sites could possibly feel threatened by this site, so I think that may just be paranoia as I know it has happened in the past to us with our other sites.}

11 Jan 2019 09:36:08
I really don't people. If people don't like his update then why come on to the site. simple! yes people have their right to believe or disbelieve ed002 but to give him stick and abuse it bang out of order.

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11 Jan 2019 10:05:33
Adam I had that suspicion too but it’s clear from listening to sharkopods Ed002 is still completely in the know and unfortunately it is as a result of abuse which is completely fair enough. Sad that more comes from this page. Pretty dissapointing and hope Ed002 realises the most of us appreciate his services despite some disagreements.

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11 Jan 2019 11:23:38
I made it sound like I was condoning the abuse lol, I meant it’s fair enough for Ed002 to stop contributing.

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11 Jan 2019 12:58:32
It comes to a point where it needs to be asked if it’s supporters of other sides, mascarading as Chelsea supporters.

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11 Jan 2019 13:43:51
RyRyLloyd has to be. Otherwise what posters on this page have been regularly abusing. Name and shame?

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{Ed001's Note - like I said, it is people who never post any other time, they just create an account purely to come on and give Ed002 grief, so there would be no point naming and shaming.}

11 Jan 2019 13:49:55
Hey Ed001 doesn’t that point more to the fact that it’s not Chelsea supporters. I understand if Ed002 has no interest in giving information on here but if these posters only post to insult Ed doesn’t that point more to the fact that it’s basically trolls and not Chelsea supporters?!

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{Ed001's Note - no because a lot of them used to post on here under names I have long forgotten and took the hump after being deleted for being abusive.}

11 Jan 2019 14:14:54
Fair enough Ed001, nothing we can do I suppose. Some people have such sad lives. Thanks for sharing this with us I have been confused in the past as to why they haven’t been named and shamed ect but what you’ve said clears that up. Such a shame.

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{Ed001's Note - it is, but it seems to be the way of the world now for people to hide behind keyboards and spout abuse. You only have to look at Twitter to see that.}

11 Jan 2019 18:16:22
So will we ever see Ed002 back on this page? Because as you said it's not the regular posters on here doing the abusing.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no plans to return as it stands right now.}

11 Jan 2019 19:17:17
But will that ever change as it's what about 18 months now (3 transfer windows I'm thinking) since you've contributed properly on this page? It's just rubbish that "fake profiles" do the abuse and we get nothing.

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answer.}

11 Jan 2019 21:51:57
I for a long time thought it was rival fans because we are very much hated. However then I remember the idiots I'd bump into at the bridge, over hear at games, the bellends I'd meet in the pub. Face it some Chelsea fans are the worst, like 1% but they really are.

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Review Of The Day 11th January 2019

11 Jan 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th January 2019

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11 Jan 2019 04:18:16
I wonder if the Chelsea board would take back Diego costa? He’s been in bad form at atletico but he was special for us.

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11 Jan 2019 14:58:12
I’d take him back but can’t see him wanting to return. He did want to leave even before the conte fall out.

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11 Jan 2019 01:08:37
I, like TomB, like Mortata and hope he succeeds but it doesn’t look like it’s going to happen here. He should leave to Spain or Italy and it’s looking like he’ll go to Sevilla. Best of luck to the guy, hope he sorts his mentality problems out.

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11 Jan 2019 09:39:23
as much as he could be good and don't get me wrong could be a great striker but his moaning/ sulking is far to much. We can't have players like that . because it will effect our premiership title race in the long run. need a striker / players that strong minded and can ignore the constant abuse your going to get from the press and fans.

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11 Jan 2019 00:21:14
Ok guys most of us are talking about Jorgihno and Kante's place in the team and if eithers position is the best suited to them. Anyway my take on the issue is with neither of these players but actually with our 3rd midfield player.

You would not be surprised when I say that neither Barkley, Kovavic or RLC have made the spots theirs. I see Kante making the runs to oposition box but neither of the 3 have ever done so (or maybe couple of times between them all) .

ALSO the goal return rate from. all 3 is still kinda low (take into account that RLC played mostly on the winger position) .

Therefore i see the need to strenghten this position in the summer, with the player who can shoot, score, and also create.

FRANK PLEASE COME BACK FROM RETIREMENT.

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11 Jan 2019 01:05:32
You’re not wrong mate, though I do rate Kovacic and RLC highly.

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11 Jan 2019 03:12:12
Loftus-Cheek has he’s just been unlucky with injuries and Sarri preferring Kova. The lads a class act he’s got it all. Power, pace, creativity and he can score a goal. By far better than the other two it’s our front three letting us down and Alonso.

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11 Jan 2019 09:40:06
King Kante, there is some truth in your words but RLC is lacking the workrate needed for that position. He doesn't press enough for me.

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