Chelsea Banter Archive August 11 2015

 

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11 Aug 2015 23:47:09
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11 Aug 2015 19:23:09
Very disappointed with jose reaction to doctor, yes she made an error, but others have made mistakes. I don't feel one error is enough for her to be removed from bench.
Hopefully he will get over it and she will be back. She appears popular with players so I hope to see her back

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11 Aug 2015 20:11:11
Jose is Jose,he's just looking to blame someone else as usual when things don't go his way. If I have to look at decisions from Saturday from a football point and not a Chelsea fan, I would say yes it was a sending off and a penalty, which then puts us on the back foot. Not only Ivan but cesc got beat every time montero got the ball. The midfield dropped too deep allowing shelvey to pass the ball about with freedom. Hazard looked like he couldn't be bothered playing until last 10 mins. Lastly I too think it's sad about EC being axed from the bench as hazard did actually look in pain, so as expected you want medical attention ASAP, even more so because it's our most influential player. The Swansea game was just one of those days, we move on to a huge game on Sunday where if we win then it's all happy happy again.

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11 Aug 2015 20:37:13
Everyone is focusing on Eva Carneiro. I don't think he mentioned her specifically as she wasn't alone running onto the pitch. She wasn't even the first doctor that entered the pitch during that incident. But of course, because she's a woman everyone (by that I mean the media) focused on her.
Now I thought Mourinho could have handled this inhouse, but he did what he did and there's no turning back the clock. It's not that big of a deal, and people shouldn't blow it out of proportion.

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12 Aug 2015 00:23:00
A wrong move from Mourinho. Especially at this time, when the team performed badly.

He didn't mention specifically the name, but criticising the medical department publicly was bad enough already.

From WAGNH, there was a fan post regards to news and the reaction from commenters toward the situation was not great.

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12 Aug 2015 07:15:14
I think this situation has more to do with her facebook post. At a place like chelsea you don't make a comment like that without proper authorization. You all need to look at it this way and stop focusing on her sex or popularity with the players and the general public.

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{Ed001's Note - if she wasn't hot, would anyone care?}

12 Aug 2015 07:46:40
Jackson there's always only one doctor on the bench.
Coming on the pitch can't be the reason for head of medical stuff to be banned.
I can bet something else has happened. But the club would not go public about it.

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12 Aug 2015 08:12:33
Spot on, Ed001.

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12 Aug 2015 09:20:44
100% Ed001.

Antibot, you do realise Eva wasn't the only medical personal that went onto the field, yes? Jon Fearn was widely reported to have recieved the brunt of Mourinho's anger. And was on the bench. He may not be the first team doctor, but he is definitely part of the medical staff.

You seem to continue to make sweeping statements that are generally wrong and it seriously damages anyone taking you seriously. Bale was guaranteed to sign, Benitez is the best manager and we should still have him. PSG and Man Citeh outsell Chelsea. You're beginning to sound like Harry. Pushing opinion as fact not stop

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12 Aug 2015 10:06:46
United fan here in peace, correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the player (hazard) ask for someone to come on to attend if he wants treatment first and then the medical staff come onto the pitch? But I agree she shouldn't be victimised by Jose, but also Ed you are right if it was Joe Bloggs nobody would be bothered. Eva is welcome in Old Traffords dugout though anytime guys if you don't want her.

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12 Aug 2015 10:16:48
Exactly Melbourne, Eva wasn't the first doctor to go on the pitch. Jon Fearn was the first one I think (not sure about his name right now but there was someone else first onto the pitch).
Ed001 is also correct. Nobody would even care if Eva wasn't a woman or indeed if she wasn't as beautiful, and it's shame. It's the only reason people care about it right now. Just let it go, everything will be fine.

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12 Aug 2015 10:37:38
Football clubs do not change things about medical stuff because manager was angry.
I am absolutely confident that you are notacompetent on this subject.

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12 Aug 2015 14:10:26
There's a big difference between medical doctor and highly trained nurse. Knowledge and legal responsibilities are quite different.

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12 Aug 2015 15:17:27
I'm quite confident you are not competent on any subject related to Chelsea, but it doesn't mean we can't play nice.

You think Eva is the only doctor at Chelsea's disposal? If you're not silly enough to believe so, do you think we would be liable if another medically trained professional was present at the games, other than Eva? Or are you ignorant enough to believe that she's the only doctor we can use and the only person qualified enough to treat the players. They may prefer her hands touching them, but it doesn't make her irreplacable.

Once again stop palming off your opinion as fact. You've shown yourself to talk out you ass, more than once. You being confident about something makes me even less so mate.

That and I don't yet believe Chelsea has put out an official press release regardingthe situation. Until they do, or until she fails to be on the bench against City, I don't see why we should believe the media reports.

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12 Aug 2015 16:38:59
Melbourne, your post is full of hate, anger and frustration. There's is no need to argue with yourself.
All that I've stated is that club doesn't change chief of medical stuff because of angry manager IF THAT'S CASE AT ALL.
Personally, I think that Mourinho is on purpose taking all pressure on him so his players can play the game on Sunday with less pressure as possible.
And I have no intention to waste my time in pointless argument.

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12 Aug 2015 17:46:34
No hate from me antibot. I spend most of my time in the real world. I work a lot, have a great partner, meditate and don't get upset with trivial issues. This page is for fun, although some posts may come across as passionate, I assure you, I couldn't care less with way your opinion rests on any given day, but when you post total bs, I will pull you up on it. So I may need to scale back on work ;) Also that isn't all you said. What you said is you bet something else has happened and the club won't go public with it. You then refused to answer any question in my rebuttal, instead choosing to pretend your views were never deluded in the first place.

Also, when did the club or any reports say Ava would lose her position? They have said she will remain in her position but take no part in game day or travel. She would remain as the head of the medical department.

You can't spout nonsense and then claim you've said nothing stupid. Its in writing, literally a few posts above your latest.

I do tend to agree with you that this is all a ploy to take pressure off the players. Just disagree that something happened that the club is keeping private, you have any idea what that is, you have any idea how club medical departments function or that I'm not competent to pass a logical opinion on your nonsensical posts

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12 Aug 2015 18:37:40
That was speculation if there's any truth about changing chief of medical stuff. Usually things like that happen when some player was not properly treated. In cases like that clubs don't go publicly. There's no point to discuss this yellow page subject.
I believe that you misunderstood my post.

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12 Aug 2015 21:52:37
I'm pretty sure Jose would demand any sign of hazard bring hurt he tells his staff he's a must treat. So their for they reacted on that. He's disguising our not so good performance! And it's worked.

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11 Aug 2015 19:18:24
Tell you what if that's true about Eva being banned from bench it's disgusting if anyone wants a telling of how sh&t they were it's the 11 that played not the medical staff and the incident happen late late on they had long enough to sort there dismal display out

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11 Aug 2015 20:08:28
I think it is frustration from Mourinho that has sparked this and in time it will go back to the way it was. If the supporters were frustrated with the performance how do you think he felt? Interesting however his comment about Hazard (see several comments about him), "it was only a knock and he was just very tired" - not a comment you would expect first game in and overall I thought a lot of them looked sluggish.

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11 Aug 2015 20:38:20
I read an article that stated that a lot of people at the club had their jobs slightly altered over the summer. So it might just be that as well.

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11 Aug 2015 21:20:00
She made a mistake chaps, end of. If Hazard is still on the pitch we might of scored the winner. probably not but Jose is right. Little details make a difference. I have managed at county level and my physio only went on the pitch with my permission.

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11 Aug 2015 21:56:15
I agree, don't know what the club and Jose are thinking. Extremely bad PR for no reason.

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11 Aug 2015 16:15:36
I saw the game and I think Hazard was either very lazy or not fit at all

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11 Aug 2015 10:51:00
Zouma will play centre mid next to matic on Sunday guaranteed. Get ready for the first appearance of the bus being parked this weekend. 100%

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11 Aug 2015 12:44:43
It's sad really because I think we have a good enough team to go out and play attacking football but while Jose is manager there will be a lot of these type of tactics. But we all wasn't complaining last May when we won the league under similar circumstances

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11 Aug 2015 13:49:57
I just want to see Oscar on the pitch on Sunday. But I'm guessing it'll be Fabregas with Matic and Zouma if Zouma indeed plays.
Fabregas shouldn't be an untouchable IMO. Oscar is even more important than him, especially in the bigger games.

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11 Aug 2015 15:25:15
Jose always sets up to maximize our chances of getting a result. Yeah we'll probably spend large parts of the game defending but this is how we perform best. Remember last season at the Etihad we scored a fantastic counter attacking goal on the break. This weekend we won't concede many goals, if any, and there's every chance we'll be able to score on the break again.
When we play this way we might not always win but we very very rarely lose which is important. I'm actually reasonably confident that we'll pull off a win on Sunday but we cannot afford to lose and give City a early 5 point lead on us.

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11 Aug 2015 15:52:35
Jackson: Whilst we will have to 'dig in' as I call it I would prefer Oscar also in the team at the expense of Fabregas as he will go missing in a game like this. Oscar is showing some of his old spark and he is better at tracking back.

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11 Aug 2015 16:19:54
Exactly Frensham. Oscar was very good against Swansea, really really good.

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11 Aug 2015 17:17:37
We don't always need to be a defensive team. We are not getting the best out of certain players because there doing so much defensive work. Last season we started off great,pressing teams high up the pitch,one touch passing and looked great. It's only one game in but if you look at pre season as well we look unfit,lazy like we should just turn up and win instead of putting in the hard work. On the signings side I don't think signing stones is a top priority. The right side of midfield has been a problem for years and someone with greizmans quality is needed. Cuadrado is still wanted by juventus and I think of we can get £20m then go out and sign greizman for £40m plus. If you want quality then you have to pay the price.

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11 Aug 2015 19:20:14
It is true we do have teams on the back foot when we press and early last season we did it very well and then we were cut to pieces by Tottenham and we then played a different game to the season end. Pressing puts pressure on our less than mobile defence when playing against teams with a lot of movement so we are currently between a rock and a hard place deciding what's best. Reading most of the newspaper reports for the Swansea game, two said the same - "something not quite right with Chelsea"- that is where the criticism has come from, we are not showing anything special and although others disagree, the right side is not working as it should. I agree that Stones is not a priority, the left back is and someone else on the right. I was convinced at the season end we would buy Griezmann but he has said nothing was ever put to him by his agent although he spoke to several clubs so maybe there is something that makes him less attractive but that buy has gone for now. I am convinced that neither Saleh or Cuadrado were Mourinho choices and one has finally gone and I cannot see the other lasting much longer. Against Man City you can guarantee however, Mourinho will have a plan.

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11 Aug 2015 23:33:19
Come on lads do you really think mourinho would allow he's players to be lazy on league duty? We started later than everybody else so it's going to take that tough first game & the training in between to get back to 100% I think the city game has draw written all over it but I think we're capable of winning with Costa being fit, Oscar starts for me

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