Chelsea Banter Archive August 11 2012

 

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11 Aug 2012 23:58:16
Just like to say I was impressed with Hulk today. He didn't go missing in a big game, put in a good shift and certainly made a difference.

I was disappointed that Brazil didn't pull it together today. It almost looked as though some were trying to live up to the 'flair' that Brazilian teams are known for, instead of playing the game.

Mexico came at them, pressed and made sure passes when in possession. They did the basics right, nothing fancy. Even when Brazil dominated possession, they didn't look like scoring, almost reminding me of a certain Barca game earlier in the year.

I thought Oscar played ok, but the team battled to string passes together which resulted in him not linking up and being as creative as usual, although he did put in some great balls.

Looking forward to the end of silly season and seeing what our squad looks like.

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11 Aug 2012 23:49:53
Hi Ed Do you actually support chelsea?If not who do you support? {Ed018's Note - both Ed002 and myself are Chelsea supporters}

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Yeah, west middle prawn sandwich supporters {Ed002's Note - The only time I sat in the stands for a Chelsea game for years was at the semi-final in Barcelona.}

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Personally, I prefer a lobster roll at half time.

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11 Aug 2012 23:19:57
Hi lads - just to let you know that there has been someone on the main page purporting to be Osgoodisking. We do not take kindly to this kind of behaviour on our hallowed site. Can someone please let the real Osgoodisking know that something is afoot?

Puzzled

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Thanks internet hero

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11 Aug 2012 22:38:16
I am so happy that no persons asked the eds wether We were interested in the Mexico striker peralta or some one saying that they have a "reliable source" that we had agreed a fee for peralta. There's hope after all.

Blue con

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11 Aug 2012 22:33:38
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Oscar and Marin are unavailable means only Hazard from the new signing player is available. Also some news coming as Mata will be rested or might play last few minutes coming off from bench.
So just wondering RDM will be taking tomorrows game very seriously just to win or he still intrested in doing some more experiments.
As we will be without marin, i guess RDM might again move to 4-3-3 formation.
I guess RDM will start with.....

--------------------cech---------------------

ivanovic-----cahill------terry--------cole

ramires-----------mikel-----------lampard

mata--------------torres----------hazrad

samrat

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You just said Mata wouldn't be playing? Make your mind up!

Chelsea Nick

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Maybe Essien/Meireles in the middle instead of Rami and move Rami on to the right of the front 3 like he has previously? That, or what you said with Sturridge in Mata's position as he won't be playing. Not necessarily what I want, more what I think RDM will go for..

LJ

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Why does everyone think ramires is a bloody winger??

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If you actually read what I put properly, you'll see I said 'not what I want', because I DONT see Rami as a winger at all. But going by player availability and RDM's previous decisions, he could end up there today.

LJ

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11 Aug 2012 22:19:28
There are some guys who wants to put Oscar in one of two holding midfielder role.
After watching all brazil olympic games its clear that the boy is not good in any kind of defensive duties, as he never tracked a player back to get the ball.
But what he is good at is playing as no 10 role for the team. Even capable of shifting to wing when required.
If we want to see best out of Oscar the boy has to play in one of forward three attacking midfielder role in RDM'S prefered 4-2-3-1 formation.

samrat

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11 Aug 2012 22:17:01
what ever happened to that Mexican striker that Chelsea signed .

Ulises Davila {Ed002's Note - Portuguese Div 2.}

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He will play the season on loan at ce sabadell in the spanish second division

trueblue012 {Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

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11 Aug 2012 22:11:37
Team next year

Chech

Ivanovic. Cahill. Terry. Cole

Essein Oscar/ramires

Mata. Hazard

Torres. Cavani

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11 Aug 2012 21:50:04
have we signed lithschierner {Ed002's Note - No.}

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11 Aug 2012 20:23:34
why do i get a feeling some drip is gonna ask ed if oscar is gonna play 2morrow.


kevinCFC

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11 Aug 2012 18:42:49
ed why we dont try for robin van persie ?
he dont want to come or we are not interested ? {Ed002's Note - There is no interest.}

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11 Aug 2012 18:30:00
My best xi"not based on names but the way the team will play:

Cech

Hutchinson-Cahill-Terry-Cole

--------------Essien-----------
------Ramires-------Oscar----

Mata----------------------Hazad
--------------Torres-----------

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Hutchinson? you mean the same hutchinson that was retired a year ago? {Ed002's Note - The one who returned from retirement last season he means.}

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I'd swap rami and mata and have hazard and rami operate as wingers with mata and oscar playing in attacking midfield. if ess comes close to how he used to be this would be perfect as he'd be the 'ball winner' and hes an intelligent player so he has the ability to pick the right pass and feed the more attacking players like mata and oscar

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Do you think Hutchinson is better than Ivanovic do you? Get real, it'll be Iva until Azpilicueta establishes himself

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11 Aug 2012 17:24:26
Hi ed do you think the cavani deal will go through early or do u think it will be last day madness {Ed002's Note - I don't want to predict timings.}

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11 Aug 2012 16:37:27
bit worried bout oscar being lightwieght! alot of ppl putting him in deep midfield i think that will be accident waiting to happen! oscar gotta be given a free role type where he can rome where he likes picking up the ball! no way should be playing deep like ppl have suggested! be intresting to see if we play oscar and mata in the same team gotta have one or the other and my prefrence is mata. oscar gotta be bulked up like barca did with messi.

cech


invanovic luiz terry cole

ramires essien

hazard lampard mata

torres

oscar to be bedded in to the prem lets not put pressure on him.


kevinCFC

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I believe Oscar, Hazard and Mata will play behind Torres, in a fairly fluid formation which will allow the three of them to move into space and control the tempo.

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11 Aug 2012 16:23:02
Ed.

Please can you settle an argument?

Marko Marin - is it pronounced Mar-inn or Mar-een?

Thanks {Ed002's Note - I would pronunce it Marin.}

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Spot on Ed......I've been to Germany once and i would pronounce it Marko Marin as well ! {Ed002's Note - As in the county.}

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Marin is serb so you pronounce his name as it is written.
D {Ed002's Note - CIt would be written in cyrillic script most likely.}

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Actually bosnia

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Serbs have cyrillic&latin letter. Has nothing to do with pronunciation. Marko Marin is serb from Bosnia&Herzegovina who are half of local population. Marin himself wanted to play for Serbia before he decided to play for Germany(Serbian Football Association turned him down-no wonder they are doing so well right now)

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If the commentator is English it should be prounounced the English way, i hate it when they call gabrielle heinz "heeaintzay" and rubbish like that,
its heinz, like the beans.

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11 Aug 2012 13:45:04
I think our best line up next season will be

Cech
Ivanovic. Cahill. Terry. Cole

Ramires Oscar
Mata. Hazard
Torres. Cavani.

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So offensive! that team would get destroyed by the likes of City.

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Looks good on paper, but it looks too lightweight in midfield, you've got two wingers and two strikes. shift mata to the middle, behind torres, and put cavani on the right

trueblue012

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Look at barcelona team on paper,how light weight do they look. If we can zip the ball around quick enough then the opposition won't have the ball to punish us. I would like to see us play more offensive and if that means losing a couple of games then so be it. We have purchased attacking players so lets not hold them back and try to make them defensive players. Let them play there game and exciting football will flow.

NWBLUE

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11 aug 2012 13:40:33
hi ed,
i really think this is a team that can destroy anyone 1..
cech
ivanovic terry/cahill cole

essian/ramirez

marin mata or oscar hazard

torres or cavani

i think this makes every team in the world look up!!!

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No, no it does not

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11 Aug 2012 12:54:34
Ed, is it true that we will sign cavani but not until january? Wouldn't see the difference in now and then? {Ed002's Note - Are you getting this from Twitter or something?}

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Yes is that not a reliable source? {Ed002's Note - I would not rely on it too much and please don't ask me to comment on anything from Twitter. I have neither teh time nor inclination.}

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11 Aug 2012 12:53:36
Ppl who leave Mata out of their starting line ups need to be banned from this site! It's clear they didn't watch one game last season!

KevinCFC

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I agree, it annoys me so much!

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I am shocked at how many people would actually leave out our best player

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That and the mugs who also leave Ramires out the side too.. It's crazy... Did they not watch any games last season? Mata and Ramires should be the first names on the team sheet..
Marley

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I watched all the penalties he missed..

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Wow, you're right, Mata missed 3 or 4 penalties... It cost us so much in all the games, and he never scored or assisted anyone.

Terrible player, sell him, no one should miss a penalty, sign of a bad player.

Messi would never miss a pen- oh, wait...

You drip

Roweycfc

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You guys can't say Mata is the best player in the team at this current time compared to players like Lampard and Ramirez. Each have strengths and weaknesses.

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Guys don't feed the trolls, its obvious anyone that slanders the special Juan is either a gooner or scouser. Most be hurting he picked us over them and played better than all their midfielders combined.

Come to think of it a spuds fan might hate him as well..... That ghost goal must still be hurtin' em.

ELI

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11 Aug 2012 08:42:25
Napoli are willing to part with Cavani for around £30million and there has been much coverage in the media over a Chelsea bid. However, this is premature but we can still hope to see a bid within he next week.

With all these new attacking midfielders coming in it would be silly not to include them with cavani in the team so...
--------------------Cech-----------------
----Ivanovic------Terry----Luiz-----Cole--
--------------------Lampard--------------
------Ramires------Oscar-----Hazard-----
--------------Cavani-----Torres-----------

I think its safe to say that our defensive tactics are somewhat impossible with all this attack. I mean the most defensive player in the midfield is LAMPARD for crying out loud!

Personally I can't see this lineup happening and I suspect that there will only be 1 striker and 2 in centre mid in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

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Where is mata?? Why us lamps holding mid??

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Mata?
ChelseaL

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Mata in place of Ramires...
and Ramires will take place of lampard and will play with oscar little deep than mata and hazard....
will be more 4-4-2 formation

samrat

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11 Aug 2012 08:41:23
team and ins and outs my chelsea 11

gk curtois cech

def luiz terry cole ivanovic apziliceta cahill

mid essien mikel raimires lampard

cam mata hazard

wingers hulk marin

st neymar torres sturridge falcao

ins neymar-60 - 70 mil
falcao 30 - 40 mil
apziliceta - 8mil

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U forgot Hulk in the ins!! Courtois is out on loan. FM team here me thinks.
ChelseaL

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So you forget about Oscar, who we have actually bought, but have added 3 players in Hulk that would cost around £150mil and thats before signing on fees, agent fees etc. This is to be honest ridiculous. I would love to see all three at the club too but it wing happen.

Rowan

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11 Aug 2012 08:29:01
chelsea 11 ns=new signing

cech or ns
ivanovic or ns luiz ns cole
marin or hulk mata hazard
torres or falcao or cavani

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Go back to football manager mate

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11 Aug 2012 07:04:08
I saw quotes from some transfer broker who was apparently already right before regarding Lavezzi, Silva and Ibra who said Cavani will arrive in January not this summer...What do you make of this Ed? {Ed002's Note - Nothing, I have no idea what a "transfer broker" is.}

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11 Aug 2012 00:28:34
We have no interest in discussing money.}Eds Has a bid of €45m plus merieles been placed/accepted for cavani. I know where interested but has that or any bid been made. {Ed002's Note -

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11 Aug 2012 01:58:39
Lukaku gone on loan for a season.....
now
Benayun/Malouda/Meireles/josh maccharan/gael kakuta/lucas piazon.....
Benayun - £3m?
Malouda - £3m?
Meireles - £8m? ( plus 25m for Edison cavani?)
Maccharan - Loan(any of epl side wich will guarantee playing time)
Kakuta - Loan or sell (5m to French ligue side)
Piazon - Will stay at chelsea fc & will progress with reserves and may be as substitute in senior squad during less important matches such as carling cup.

samrat

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11 Aug 2012 01:56:08
Ed,

Do you expect a move for a striker soon now that Lukaku has been loaned out or will Chelsea wait for more players to leave? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - The club has been trying all summer for strikers.}

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11 Aug 2012 00:40:57
Both Hazard and Oscar are classified as under 21 for the purposes of the Barclays Premier League and so will not occupy a place in Di Matteo's official 25-man squad to be submitted at the end of the month-DAILY MAIL
ed i am really confused with the above statement ca you pls clear up, thnx for your time and thoughtful knowledge {Ed002's Note - Without knowing what you are confused about, no.}

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Mate, you can only name a max of 25 over 21 players. Thorgan Hazard, 19 and Oscar, 20 wouldnt count in this 25 as they obviously are younger than 21. Pretty simple really.
ChelseaL

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11 Aug 2012 00:24:33
If we sign Edison Cvani means is it end of Sturridge at stamford bridge?
As both Torres and Cavani will be prefered ahead of him and he wont like being 3rd choice striker.
I have funny feeling that we will sign both Cavani and Victor Moses and might sell Sturridge just before transfer window closes.
The reason i feel behind this is
* Sturridge will be unhappy and furious for being 3rd choice striker.
* He has got just 1 year left on his contract so CFC will sell him this year for 10-12m rather than loosing unhappy player next year for free.
* Sturridge alongwith Meireles ( may be make weight for cavani deal) dose not hold great relationship with RDM as they had with AVB.
* Victor Moses will be happy to be 3rd choice striker or play on right side wingas a substitute when required and will not complain about it.
My guess ins-outs during this transfer window here on will be.......
out:
benayun - £3 m
malouda - £3 m
meireles - £8 m
sturridge - £12 m
maccharan - on loan
kakuta - on loan/may sell at £5m

in:
azplicueta - £9 m
moses - £9 m
cavani - £32 m

We have already spent around £65 m this summer and may be will spend around £50 m more!

samrat

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With the right buyers i think we could get around 15m for sturridge JJ

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11 Aug 2012 00:12:21
Hello ED Part ownership question? Could a player play for two clubs at once? half owned (without it being two european clubs in CL). example - brazil league for 1st part of a season and then European league the second, once the 2st season finishes the player returning to his former club? The same sort of deal as a loan deal IE Donavon for La Galaxy and Everton. If not why? and is this place with any current player(s)?. And this is not about Neymar and Chelsea just a thought that has bothered me for while. {Ed002's Note - Not as part ownership in England but a loan as per Donovan is OK.}

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10 Aug 2012 23:27:43
ed you must get so tired of the endless quizzing is it hulk is it cavani is it moses is it falcao is it heskey is it geoff hurst . you will find out if you log back in on the 1st of sept its so mind numingling dull ed has about as much insight as my gran to be honest never committs and never tells us before the day it happens, i have no problem with this at all other than, noone knows but the player and the club so be patient and wait for comfirmation by the way ed is ther any truth in neymar signing for ten shillings and a packet of pork scratchings, but his agent wants 15 shillings and a packet of bacon fries dont blame him but chelsea are only offering 12 shillings and a packet of scampi fries please let me know kind regards
gareth england 1973 esq

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How can you question the eds' insight, they have been 100% on all the deals this summer and were generally at least a week in advance of other sources. When people were saying it was certain that Hulk would come, they were adamant that the price was still miles off and so far that is still the case. Occasionally the eds have not been willing to commit to dates for signings but this is understandable as if some unthought of situation arises that changes the deal, then others will question the eds. Clearly you do not really visit the site often and your criticisms are laughable. Although i agree about the endless questions on the same subject as that is very boring.

Rowan

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10 Aug 2012 23:24:34
Ed 002 Do you know what Franks plans are ? I think I remember you saying he might even be off to the US in Jan but is that still the case or do you think he will stay the season or longer?
Thanks. {Ed002's Note - He has options to consider but seeing the season out would suit him financially.}

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