Chelsea Banter Archive February 10 2019

 

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10 Feb 2019 23:05:48
The problem is that the new generation of Chelsea supporters have been raised on Chelsea winning trophies and having instant success. Whether Roman demands the same or is influenced by the supporters negativity, I don't know. No one knows his feelings for the club now.
If u employ a manager to play a certain style of football, then u have to give him a few seasons to achieve that. No doubt his style of football will take time for the players to comprehend, that's if he even has the players he wants for his system in the first place. I used to go to the Liverpool page when Klopp first started, and there were the same negative posts. The Liverpool board backed the manager and now we are seeing the results of their trust.
Same old story here, unless there is instant success we demand the managers head.
What would Jose do, change the system make us hard to beat and be bored out of our minds. With such a drastic change in the style of football it will take a few seasons to get the team playing.
Sure sarri is making mistakes all the time but he is learning about the premiership, he will know he might have to adapt the style to suit this league, just give the manager time, he is not a stupid man.

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10 Feb 2019 23:22:54
Don't forget city's team is based in possession the same as ours, but they are 2- 3 seasons ahead. whether the players didn't follow his instructions, bearing in mind the opponents, or it was his fault for not changing the system, again bearing in mind the opponents. I am sure he will Learn from today.

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10 Feb 2019 23:29:57
Like your thought process Sid.

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11 Feb 2019 00:02:37
Not just Liverpool Sid, if you read the comments through Pep's first season you'll find the exact same comments being made there as well. "He has no plan B" "He's refusing to adapt to english football". You'll find those comments after City got battered by Leicester and Everton. Pep said he needed time and backing, he got exactly that and now look at them. They're a class above everyone and one of the best teams to play in the BPL. Sarri needs the same which is what Pep said in his conference. He also said he when he joined City he trusted them in backing him and trusting the process but didn't with Chelsea and he's spot on. Even when Pep first took over City they had a much better squad than ours is right now, they started brightly similar to us and then struggled in spells throughout, again like us. The difference in that season is Pep had enough quality in that team to finish top 4. We on the other hand don't and it's showing. I hope since the way we perused Sarri we're serious in backing him and give the guy time and better quality players. Because in terms of quality in the team, we are miles and miles away from Liverpool and City.

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11 Feb 2019 08:49:18
Sid your post is 100% spot on, I hope the board can read your mind but I fear not. Everything said in this thread is very sensible, LondonBlues90 you have made a good post too. I feel the same as you guys. i've got nothing more to add guys.

Sid i agree, problem at Chelsea = We have a new breed of fans that want instant success over stability and future direction. I will be left baffled if the board were to sack Sarri, I would lose 100% faith in them if they were to make that stupid call. You can't change players managed by Jose or Conte and expect them to play sarriball or whatever they call it almost immediately. Its common sence. It will take time. Worse yet, sack Sarri and appoint Zidane or Blanc. Isn't that going againt the strategy when we first appointed Sarri and wanted him to change our style? I fear the AVB cycle is about to restart. Surely our board wint make tge mistake twice.

Everyone here wanted attacking football, well you have to be patient. No wonder top managers like pep reject us. Why would he want to ruin his varnished CV with us. It will only lead to a sacking creditation. I more than happy to wait years before we win the next trophy as long as we get this set up right.

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10 Feb 2019 18:26:52
Very worrying that the club isn't expected to make massive changes to this team in the summer because my god our defence is shocking. I've made the excuse that the team needs time to adapt but the truth is most of the players out there don't deserve to be wearing the shirt. We've refused to bring in quality players for a couple of years and instead waste millions on bang average squad fillers who we're now given new contracts to!!. How could the board have watched what occured last season and think the defence didn't need investing?.

These are the same players who got smacked by Bournemouth and Watford last season, how could they have expected anything different to happen?. A lot of the goals we concede isn't down to the system, it's constant individual errors that cost us, then the players just give up. It's soo clear when you watch our games that the players aren't following simple instructions and are just playing as individuals.

Sarri obviously isn't helping himself either, you can't sit their and constantly question your players mentality but continue to pick the same players every week. We have young hungry players in that team like CHO, RLC, Ampadu and Christensen who'll give you a toughness and hunger in their game and can do no worse but you refuse to start them over the same players you're always questioning, why?.

The club itself is in a very bad place atm. This entire team needs a massive overhaul, bring in the young boys next season, give the likes of Reece james, Abraham, RLC, CHO and Ampadu roles within the team, get rid of all the dead wood and spend on quality. Getting rid of Sarri won't change anything, these players aren't anywhere near good enough. When we won the league with Conte he said himself it was a miracle and cried out for better players.

He knew this squad wasn't good enough to continue to perform at a high level but the board didn't listen and instead made the team WEAKER!. The squad has been going backwards for years but the trophies we've won recently have clearly blinded the board into thinking otherwise. I fear for Sarri because it's always the easy option and most fans can never see the bigger picture. Of course he has his faults which aren't helping him but our problems run much much deeper than just the manager.

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10 Feb 2019 18:38:57
Spot on London Blue. Agree with almost everything.

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10 Feb 2019 20:25:48
Incredible post LondonBlues90.

Absolutely bang on.

KTBFFH!

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10 Feb 2019 18:22:27
like I said last everyone getting excited about is BEATING Huddersfield last week. but everyone slammed me for that comment. We are rubbish atm.

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10 Feb 2019 18:47:52
Because we won Wheely and that’s a time to be happy.

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11Feb 2019 16:32:23
it's a game we are expected to win.

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Liverpool v Bournemouth - A Liverpool Perspective

10 Feb 2019 18:27:48
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Liverpool v Bournemouth - A Liverpool Perspective

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10 Feb 2019 17:54:16
I think todays result just shows us how good City are. Absolute joy to watch and ruthless in attack.

Sarri won't change his tactics so no point moaning about that, but in my opinion, the players he picks for matches baffles me. I like Sarri, think we should stick with him, but he's got to be more flexible. If your players are underperforming, you have to drop them. You can't just keep playing them in hope they will regain their form.

Substitutions today also confused me, like for like changes again, 4-0 down! I just don't understand the thinking behind it, Jorginho clearly struggling so why not put Kova in his position and Ruben for Barkley instead of putting him out wide? Again, very puzzling.

We had a good spell in the 1st half where we played well but just couldn't score. I won't mention too much about Alonso because we all have eyes and can see the performances he's been putting in.

Hopefully we can bounce back from this quickly, move and and finish strong.

Chelsea, please don't sack another manager when the players also have a responsibility to perform.

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10 Feb 2019 18:15:01
Brilliant post in my opinion Blue!

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10 Feb 2019 18:40:04
Shows players either don’t believe is Sarri style or just not good enough to play it. ( I think the latter ) and shows they are mentally weak and shows the gulf in class between the clubs. Compare each position and kante and hazard only ones getting near that team, Barkley Pedro Alonso luiz should be as angry with themselves as I am because there not good enough today or v 90% of teams we’m Play against,

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10 Feb 2019 18:49:09
Putting aside his mistake, I thought Barkley was unlucky to be subbed today Matt.

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{Ed025's Note - i disagree tom, he was poor all the time he was on for me mate..

10 Feb 2019 19:01:55
Barkley needs to much time on the ball to have impact, or space in front of him. Won’t ever happen v city / arsenal / Liverpool’s,

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10 Feb 2019 19:04:07
All about opinions!

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{Ed025's Note - very much so tom mate..

10 Feb 2019 19:52:32
dont think barkley jorginho or alonso and pedro are good enough full stop. all 4 wouldn't get near the team if i was picking but as u say opinions.

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10 Feb 2019 17:53:34
I recently wrote on here stating that, with the right players, Sarri's system, his plan A, will work in the Premier League. I also said in that post that he currently doesn't have the squad to play that system and, until such point that he does, he will need to go to another plan to win games.

This match vs. City has been some of the most naive management that I have ever seen. His system would struggle against this City if he had a squad of players perfectly suited to it, it was never going to work with our current team.

I still think that some of the players (most of the players in this game) performances, including Hazard, have been completely unacceptable but the management of them is unacceptable too.

On current form we won't get top four, its foolish to think anything else. My other concerns that i don't trust this team and, more to the point, manager to beat City in the League Cup final, United in the FA Cup or one of the decent teams in the Europe League.

Sarri may have to go in order to save this season, but the club need a huge review of their structure going forward!

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10 Feb 2019 21:02:26
Brian Clough said that a manager should choose a tactical system to play after looking at the players he has at his disposal, not the other way round. This is Sarri's problem: he has come in and imposed a system on players who: 1) are not used to it; and 2) not the right players to play it. This makes him a bad manager. Sarri should have introduced his system slowly as he got the players in who he thought could play it.

Sarri has not only tarnished his own reputation but also that of several players especially Jorginho, Alonso (who it is obvious was never suited to Sarriball), Barkley (who just looks lost), and Kante (who we can all see getting more and more desperate every game) .

Sarri has to go.

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10 Feb 2019 21:09:30
I always read your posts with interest J and your above post is no different. As always you make some very constructive and valid points.

I think is wrong to blame ONE person for our problems and I hope the club and fans reserve judgment until the end of the season.

The board, in my opinion, need to make a statement saying Sarri has their full support asap.

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10 Feb 2019 21:34:00
Mrs Costa, I would like to think the resin the board employed Sarri was because they looked at the way his team played and thought we want some of that.

I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have joined if the board told him they wanyhim to play three at the back or the Jose way!

They should have realised what they were getting and so should have the fans!

The board need to back there judgment and support the manager, just for a change!

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10 Feb 2019 23:07:53
A lack of a plan b is a problem though Tom. If the club backs him, and invest in the squad, then there will be games, especially in the Champions League (if we qualify), where he will need to change his tactics.

You can get away with it against 95% of the opposition in Serie A, but not in the Premier League and not away from home against good European opposition - and that's with a squad that plays the system well.

His stubbornness is his downfall.

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10 Feb 2019 23:33:18
J, It’s hard to imagine some players understanding a plan B when they can’t work out plan A.

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10 Feb 2019 17:38:35
6-0 wow truly emmbarrassed i can't help but feel sarri is a gonner.

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10 Feb 2019 17:54:12
Didn’t shake hands, all we want more media just get rid.

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10 Feb 2019 18:56:41
Didn’t shake hands so “get rid” I suggest you listen to the after match Pep quote before you make such ridiculous statements!

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10 Feb 2019 17:23:38
Ed001 would you expect sarri to be on thin ice or do you think we’ll see a lot of different players next year? Cheers.

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{Ed001's Note - more likely both. The team needs an overhaul and Sarri is not impressing so far. Shame for Sarri, he has come in at the wrong time and then the wrong players were added. However his stubborn refusal to dump the useless Alonso and the struggling Jorginho are going to be his downfall. Though Kepa is not helping today!}

10 Feb 2019 17:36:10
Ed001, spot-on analysis.

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10 Feb 2019 17:43:31
Best reply from an Ed ever here. Sums it up perfectly. Never rated Keppa.

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10 Feb 2019 17:47:32
Cheers ed. I guess sarri wants Jorginho in as he feels most backed by him rather than the others if you catch my drift. Can’t assume the players are believing in him.

Maybe very premature ed but who would you go for manager wise if you were Roman? Cheers

Also might add, will be a bit embarrassing for Chelsea to fire sarri after trying so hard to get him in the summer . sad day to be a chelsea fan :/.

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{Ed001's Note - if it was me I would suggest Allegri was the man to look at. As for Jorginho, Sarri believes he is the lynchpin of his style, but that is because he still does not understand the English league and the changes necessary to succeed in it.}

10 Feb 2019 17:51:58
If Keppa is said to have a bad game today that’s ok but in my opinion he is top class and will prove himself to be the best in the world.

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10 Feb 2019 17:55:34
1 goal rest he wasn’t able to do anything about.

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10 Feb 2019 17:56:23
Cant keep sacking managers so soon after they are appointed. Give him some time, City and Liverpool have done that, look how far up the table they are.

Have some faith, back the manager.

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10 Feb 2019 18:12:11
I really am lost for words do we Stick with Sarri or Go for Another manager agree with Ed though Team needs an overhaul maybe start with a leader on the pitch!

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10 Feb 2019 18:17:06
I agree Blue but it’s not usually the Chelsea way!

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10 Feb 2019 16:55:39
carragher hit the nail on the head wev turned into arsenal absoloutely gutless away from home and alwayd capable of getting battered in big games.

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10 Feb 2019 17:07:38
I wish he would hit himself on the head.

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10 Feb 2019 17:14:12
u can't help but believe he's talking sense we are a disgrace.

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10 Feb 2019 19:11:27
Redknapp played in the Premiership for Liverpool and Spurs so when it comes to him making comments about Chelsea he so biased I just mentally switch off.

I think Carrager harping back to old Chelsea sides and making comparisons to previous Chelsea sides to this team is just bizzare.

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10 Feb 2019 19:56:19
i think the truth hurts tom an i agree with both were falling behind were absoloutely gutless as a team . no leaders no balls we always look good 1 week and rubbish d following just like arsenal did under wenger in his last 2 or 3 years.

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10 Feb 2019 16:53:04
Watch us come out and win 5-4 now. Pep has fallen for Sarri's plan to make us look like Ipswich's reserve team for the 1st half so they underestimate us. The man's a genius.

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10 Feb 2019 17:19:19
6-5 now Paul.

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10 Feb 2019 17:38:34
7-6 is a bit hard to imagine Paul but we live to fight another day!

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10 Feb 2019 17:39:41
7-6 - come on - heads up - let's win the last 10 minutes.

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10 Feb 2019 17:46:53
I could have been slightly wrong with that post. My glass WAS half full earlier but City knocked it over and pissed on it. I did write another one saying we will be 6th after this game. Should have stuck with that one hey.

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{Ed025's Note - they dont even look arsed paul..

10 Feb 2019 16:51:43
im going to come from a more calm approach. is it sarris fault were losing 4-0. what about the players? there the 1s on the pitch look at how bad that first goal was hazard lost silva but u could also ask why alonso wasnt covering his position? anyway guys i don't say i want any man sacked i just no where a million miles away from city an liverpool no leader no balls in the team. the signings last few years have been absoloutely rubbish . but let's see what the summer holds with pulisic coming in maybe 1 or 3 more.

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10 Feb 2019 16:58:02
Sarris he already told us he doesn’t no how to motivate them has to go.

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10 Feb 2019 17:06:41
Like Jose and Conte. Shouldn’t that draw you to another conclusion?

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10 Feb 2019 17:10:38
M&S, are you some sort of Tory - always the workers fault, never the management?

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10 Feb 2019 17:23:33
Jose never said he was unable to motivate instead of looking at having ago just realise we’re why behind the top 3 and our manager clueless the pundits no what he’s doing there laughing today at him yet your trying to have ago you must be like Sarri if you don’t see it.

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10 Feb 2019 17:26:46
I think that quote can apply both ways!

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10 Feb 2019 17:37:08
Keep calm Nibby. We will stuff City in the final and I couldn’t care less about a pundits opinion, they have their own agenda!

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10 Feb 2019 17:58:56
We’re going nowhere with him it’s so predictable and now more media problems why not shake hands.

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10 Feb 2019 18:21:21
Nibby, you seem like a poster who just wants to jump on anything negative.

Can I suggest you listen to the Pep quotes about the so called missing handshake before you send in a post.

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10 Feb 2019 19:01:59
No not negative just real pal it is what it is . terribly manage and not going anywhere fast.

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10 Feb 2019 16:50:29
Same old posters on the site giving stock when we lose.

The weirdest was a poster wanting Jose back. GH will be the next call. Or, maybe even Conte!

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10 Feb 2019 16:57:56
haha something has to give tom wev been embarrasing last few months.

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10 Feb 2019 16:59:21
I want him I do I love the bloke simple he should be given full power tho.

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10 Feb 2019 17:05:28
My opinion Magic is, I just can’t see them sacking this manager.

I agree things have to change but I will defer judgement until the end of the season.

My experience tells me it’s very rarely just one thing that’s wrong!

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10 Feb 2019 17:11:56
TomB, aren't us 'same old posters' with our same old message being proved right?

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10 Feb 2019 17:28:08
Not in my opinion. As I’ve said I will make a judgment at the end of the season and I hope the club does as well.

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10 Feb 2019 17:48:48
TomB I was the one that said I’d take mourinho back lol, after seeing how well utd are doing without him I’m kinda taking that back. lol.

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10 Feb 2019 18:00:14
Bring him home with full power.

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10 Feb 2019 16:50:00
I would love sarri to show some balls and start second string players next game. Drop everyone from the team apart higuain kante and keeper.

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10 Feb 2019 16:58:24
hes got nothing to lose hel probabky get sacked anyway.

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10 Feb 2019 16:28:54
I've stuck by Sarri for a while now but I've finally given up this is absolutely disgusting.

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10 Feb 2019 16:33:51
About time but welcome to the bloody obvious club.

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10 Feb 2019 16:38:08
Your the second poster to suggest sacking Sarri. Mrs Costa just got their before you on the Other Posts page!

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10 Feb 2019 16:46:43
I’m sure Sarri didn’t tell them to defend like headless chickens.

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10 Feb 2019 16:52:59
i agree bru why do managers get slated the players are a shambles.

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10 Feb 2019 18:25:32
Sarri must of told Alonso to stand 5 yards from luiz and not mark city player out wide, then told him to let the city players just waltz past him. Before screaming to Barkley to not header the ball away and to pathetically attempt a block rather than close down, damn you Sarri, I’m angry at Sarri for picking these average players, but individual errors and general uselessness can’t all be pinned to Sarri.

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10 Feb 2019 16:26:51
We’re 20 minutes in and I’m done watching the game. It’s 2am and I am extremely p***** off. What has happened to this club? We’re going to lose our best player, we’re going to lose our brightest academy player seen in a century. We’re no longer actively looking to build a new stadium. We’re buying mediocre players for large sums.

We’re a laughing stock. For all the times we laughed at arsenal we are literally them now, without the stadium. We have players that can score 7 own goals in one game yet they’ll still be on the bus for the next game while backup players are not given chances.

I’m sick to death of watching this spineless chelsea side. We’re awful. We’re losing to an incredible team but the lapses defensively against Bournemouth and now city in addition to Watford last year is humiliating.

I’ve been one of the calmest fans but enough is enough. Something needs to be done. The club is a mess with its youth and it’s transfer policy. The over 30 1 year contract rule is outdated and a poor option for players in later years wanting to join. We’re missing out.

Going to bed extremely annoyed once again. I’ll support my team tomorrow but tonight I’ve had enough. Zero bottle zero leadership and zero desire.

I’m out.

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10 Feb 2019 16:47:01
Standard, I agree mate we are a frustrating side to watch at the moment mate and I don’t blame you for going to bed. I feel like locking myself in a darkened room.

Been a funny old game that will cause an understandable outcry from fans and will allow the press and pundits to wheel out the usual crisis chat.

Chins up lads we’ve got the second half to look forward to!

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10 Feb 2019 16:48:56
hard too argue with anything you said but this result was coming we were embarrassed by bournemouth for god sake haven't scored away from home yet this year something has to give.

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10 Feb 2019 16:54:19
making me really dread the final in few weeks tom.

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10 Feb 2019 16:23:48
Looks like City are using us soft lads to enhance their goal difference for their title challenge. Really can't wait for a summer overhaul. I dread facing Spurs or Man utd now.

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10 Feb 2019 16:18:32
City showing us how far we really are behind them.

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Premier League Game Previews 10 February 2019

10 Feb 2019 09:30:18
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Review Of The Day 10th February 2019

10 Feb 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th February 2019

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