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23 Jul 2017 22:44:33
Ed02. Agents fees, now there is a subject which often includes bribery and black mail in many people's understanding, although I am sure it is all legal and accountable.
Does a player only "employ" an agent in a fee capacity when negotiating a transfer or new contract? The buying club obviously negotiates a fee with the agent where the " if u want my player to sign for you, then I will will need so much money " scenario comes into play. There again the agent could say to the selling club " I will try and get a bit more money for you if u pay me so and so " but then again this must be between the 2 clubs and not involve the agent. Must be lots of conflicts of interests and I assume various contracts have to be written in legal terms to insure everything is above board. Are football agents closely monitored by some sort of authority which monitors their actions?

{Ed002's Note - No. Many use an agent on a contractual basis to negotiate future moves. This tends to be at the higher level. Step down and the can become surrogate mothers. Two quickies stories you might enjoy. (a) a Premier League player who couldn't drive had his agent organise the purchase of an expensive car that was rolled out of the garage when he was visited by the press etc. for interviews, demanded the car was replaced a year later with the latest model in a different colour. He still couldn't drive - but it was image. It had a couple of hundred miles on the clock. (b) a northern-based Premier League player who had put clothes in a washing machine but had no idea how to turn it on repeatedly rang his agent in the South East for instructions on how to use it. This was eventually solved by the agent persuading someone at the Worsley Park Marriott to send a housekeeper (or similar member of staff) around to his house to do his washing and instruct him and his girlfriend in the use of the machine. I will say that both players involved are English.

Agents are regulated and monitored but in certain countries there are some horror stories. The al Bangura tale all comes out of this guy who has published a book on the exploitation of youngster in football. There has been quite a big deal going on in Belgium about it for a couple of years. Investigations are on-going in Spain which has the Cotonou Agreement where African and Caribbean players are not counted against non-EU quotas so t Others here is a periodic influx of Africans, often young and from poor families. I suspect a bigger deal than is necessary will be made of the whole matter.

The number of "foreign" players is also an interesting subject and there are a number of reasons - some I won't think of but I will try and provide some rationale. In terms of pure numbers (and putting aside less major leagues such as Scotland, the Championship, Cyprus and Luxembourg), the Premier League is some distance ahead of the main protagonists in Europe. Right now England has around 70% foreign players with Portugal, Belgium and Italy all around 50% to 55% and Russia, Spain, the Netherlands and France all around the 40% give or take. You would need to check the exact figures with the CIES Football Observatory reports which come out with boring statistics all too often - try not to read too much in to any you stumble across. The reasons behind this include (but are not limited to): (a) There is far more money in the Premier League so clubs can cherry pick players from around the world. (b) The Premier League is attractive because of the profile and media coverage. (c) English clubs often price English players out of a move to other English sides. (d) European sides (e.g. Italy) have to work with in a far more demanding quota system. (e) Some countries have the benefit of agreements (e.g. Spain which has the Cotonou Agreement where African and Caribbean players are not counted against non-EU quotas) that are beneficial to clubs. (f) Some countries have quotas which are game based rather than squad based (e.g. Ukraine limits non homegrown players on the pitch to seven etc.). (g) Some countries have clubs that realise players from their home nation most suit the type of game played in that country and there are benefits in terms of moving players between clubs - as opposed to taking a youngster out of his comfort zone of sunny South America to move to the grim, wet and cobbled streets Northwest of England where there would be a significant cultural change, smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street, little chance of football at the highest level and only chips and fried curry to eat.
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23 Jul 2017 23:45:30
Thank you ed02.

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23 Jul 2017 23:53:26
I can confirm the north is exactly like that- most can't also grasp the local dialect- Kebabish.

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23 Jul 2017 12:22:01
Eds, is there any truth to the rumours that we want Oxlade Chamberlain?

{Ed018's Note - it sounds that way}

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23 Jul 2017 17:17:55
Thanks for the reply Ed018. I guess he would be a decent squad player to fill the wing back and midfield roles.

{Ed018's Note - I'm thinking he'd be ok to provide some cover at wingback and the winger position.}

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23 Jul 2017 18:15:15
I personally think he'd be an upgrade on moses think he's better technically who would you go for ed018 with who's out there and available at the minute.

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23 Jul 2017 18:32:08
I don't think Wenger had done him any favours. It would be interesting to see what Conte could get out of him.

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23 Jul 2017 19:23:26
He'd be a good addition and could provide cover in 3 positions. RW, RWB and CM, also only 1 year left on contract.

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23 Jul 2017 20:03:16
Ox Chamberlin isn't an upgrade on Moses.

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23 Jul 2017 21:10:58
Oh he is Moses has had 1 good year out of 6.

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23 Jul 2017 21:15:33
great player. injury record worries me.

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23 Jul 2017 21:22:48
Moses had a good game yesterday. didn't see Ox.

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23 Jul 2017 11:13:24
Hi eds hope you are all well.

Do any of you have an insight whether Boga will be loaned out planned to be part of the squad for the coming season.

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - There is a lot of interest from clubs who want him on loan.}

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23 Jul 2017 15:50:24
I think we, as supporters need to try not get carried away. He played really well yesterday but I think for his development a premiership loan would be ideal IMO. Ed do you know if any premier league clubs are interested in a loan? I'm not looking for names just curious?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, but if he goes on loan it will be elsewhere.}

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23 Jul 2017 17:50:33
Hmm why can't we just use him ourselves? We've only got Pedro, Willian and Hazard in his position. 3 players for 2 spots isn't enough. Yes, Musonda's there as well. But 4 is still the bare minimum amount that's required there.
Plus Eden will be out injured until the end of September probably, while Pedro has just suffered a concussion (must be something to it as he was sent home from the tour) . Musonda's carrying a knock right now as well. So why not keep Boga? He is good enough to play a role for us.

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23 Jul 2017 18:18:32
Couldn't agree more jackson hopefully he puts in a few more good performances pre season and catches conte's eyes.

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23 Jul 2017 10:28:53
Supposedly after Richarlison from Fluminense - wow - only 20 but what a talent. Fingers crossed.

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23 Jul 2017 12:09:36
is he really that good? i just watched about 45 minutes of him on you tube and even on there i didn't think he was that good, he didn't look as good as all the youngsters we already have.

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23 Jul 2017 21:23:48
Do we need another non hg 20 yo?

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23 Jul 2017 10:02:07
Ed002, possible to ask about Richaelison of Fluminese?

{Ed002's Note - Fluminense's Richarlison is attracting the attention of Roma, Napol, Chelsea, Milan and Ajax. Chelsea's interest dates from when Mourinho was manager. Any move to England now would be hampered by the Work Permit process. If the fee can be settled on Ajax would be his best solution.}

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23 Jul 2017 11:06:17
Welcome back Ed002. Brilliant to have you back on here. Your info is second to none.

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23 Jul 2017 13:22:58
Welcome back ed002. Happy to see u back. Now please tell us if chelsea's interest in moussa and Ousmane Dembele is still there? Also any discussions held with respective clubs?
Further any updates on other targets?

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get into any questions about discussions that may have happened. I would not expect either to join as it stands right now.}

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23 Jul 2017 08:45:57
Did Sandro ever sign a contract extension with Juve? Just seems that he hasn't been mentioned in the media for a while, so I'm assuming it's dead in the water?

{Ed002's Note - Not at this time.}

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23 Jul 2017 09:38:28
Thanks for the update!

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22 Jul 2017 23:41:47
Interesting Conte says he hopes to have another squad member in before Singapore ends. AOC? Sandro? Richairlison? Bertrand? Someone completely different?

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23 Jul 2017 00:59:01
Yeah i found that pretty interesting, he could have meant Pedro joining back with the squad but who knows. We haven't been in advanced talks with anyone i don't think, just rumours. It'll be an interesting few days me thinks.

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23 Jul 2017 05:57:36
conte's words:
"we need to improve and increase our squad we are trying to find the right solution."

fingers crossed- for more players cos conte's right. that was real madrid's strength last season (depth! )

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23 Jul 2017 10:22:06
Could be the Ox.

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23 Jul 2017 12:03:30
Who's AOC?

{Ed033's Note - Probably, Alex Oxlade Chamberlain

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23 Jul 2017 01:13:43
Is that what Conte said? I read that he was saying that Chelsea need to buy more players given that we have sold so many experienced players.

Moving away from the above and onto Richarlison. Ed any truth?

Cheers.

{Ed018's Note - I find it unlikely with getting a work permit being difficult.}

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23 Jul 2017 13:10:17
it would be florente.

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22 Jul 2017 14:23:23
With all the naymar to psg for rumours do Chelsea still hold an interest in the player?

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22 Jul 2017 15:26:58
Leave it out mate will ya.

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22 Jul 2017 19:25:22
Neymar? 220 mil? Did you see boga today? We don't need neymar. Esp at that price and wage.

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22 Jul 2017 19:55:31
Boga did good; i would love to see Christensen and Lewis Baker play more too.
Wow Batshuayi is really good. This might be his season.

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22 Jul 2017 20:14:17
We don't need anymore attacking players whatsoever. Musonda and Boga will hopefully play a part in the squad this season. If Remy leaves then maybe a 3rd choice st but that's it imo. All we need is another Cm and back-up or first choice fullbacks. With Mendy and now Danilo of to city the options in the market are starting to get smaller. Hopefully that will get sorted soon. The Only interest that has seemed to be confirmed recently is the Ox.

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22 Jul 2017 20:22:41
We need renato sanchez and sandro/ bertrand.

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22 Jul 2017 20:34:01
I agree with Renato Sanches or Kovacic (R/ Madrid - he'll be available) ; but R. Bertrand not so sure (might be too expensive for his quality) . Alex Telles don't seem a bad option- he keeps improving.

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22 Jul 2017 23:33:49
Hazard Pedro willian musonda boga ;)

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22 Jul 2017 21:31:49
Seems like Tomori Fikayo will be promoted- as a backup for Victor Moses. I read somewhere that he has been allocated a new shirt number for the coming season.

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23 Jul 2017 01:33:56
Lol Ryan had he seen Boga he would not have been asking about Neymar.

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21 Jul 2017 21:18:36
A lot of rumours circulating that Matic could/ will be off to United for around £45m. Although i reckon that'll end the Sandro pursuit, and i don't really want to strengthen a rival, for that much you have to take it if other teams aren't matching that sum. Excited to see who else we'll be in for for his replacement since the board will have money to burn at this point.

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22 Jul 2017 00:57:39
Man Utd offer is about £15m short.

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23 Jul 2017 09:05:02
hope juve come for him we don't wanna strenghten mourinhos hands.

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23 Jul 2017 21:21:16
How is it we want to get rid of him as he has been a disappointment and then we are strengthening Mourinho's hand? Matic is not going to improve.

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21 Jul 2017 20:49:46
Ed002. reports now surfacing that Chelsea are looking at signing Sarr from Nice. The player you've mentioned all year. 👏👏👏👍🏼👍🏼 Great info as per.

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21 Jul 2017 21:53:36
Also Ed002, are we after Oxlaide-Chamberlain? Can't see it myself but maybe an alternative to Danilo. If you don't wanna answer Ed002, any chance of the other Eds answering?

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21 Jul 2017 22:03:58
Would be Malang Sarr?

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21 Jul 2017 22:12:52
That's the one. Ed002 been saying we've been looking at him all season.

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21 Jul 2017 22:26:05
Just saw that Real Madrid, Barcelona and Arsenal are all in for him.

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21 Jul 2017 22:36:57
With the french players we have, I think we have a great chance of signing him if it's true.

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22 Jul 2017 11:56:29
What french players? Kante remy and boga?

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22 Jul 2017 17:02:32
Kante, Bakayoko, Zouma, Cesar and Michy played out in france. All links mate.

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22 Jul 2017 18:44:51
I don't know why you thing grown men on massive wages need to "settle" these are not children. For a player to come to chelsea he wants to play and win. Forget holding hands.

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22 Jul 2017 19:14:15
Theres a lot of eastern europeans at my work but when i started there i went on my own. I didn't need British hgv drivers to come with me to "help me settle in"

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22 Jul 2017 19:16:43
Ok i take your point. Maybe get teddy over.

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22 Jul 2017 20:06:16
He's 18. Still a young lad. 👏👏👏 well done on settling down on your own. Your parents should be very proud!

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22 Jul 2017 20:58:42
We could get him a rubiks cube.

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22 Jul 2017 21:14:32
We could. Or we could get the players to look after each other. With the culture difference etc, would certainly help the new players settle in. Not every one settles in another country.

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